Last night, the Congressional Budget Office released its analysis of the House Republican alternative health care bill. While the CBO determined the GOP bill’s 10 year price tag to be $61 billion — far less that the Democrats’ proposal — the score also found that the their bill would have little effect on nearly 46 million uninsured Americans:
By 2019, CBO and JCT estimate, the number of nonelderly people without health insurance would be reduced by about 3 million relative to current law, leaving about 52 million nonelderly residents uninsured. The share of legal nonelderly residents with insurance coverage in 2019 would be about 83 percent, roughly in line with the current share. CBO and JCT estimate that enacting the amendment’s insurance coverage provisions would increase deficits by $8 billion over the 2010–2019 period.
The CBO found that the Democrats’ bill, however, would cover 36 million more Americans and “reduce the number of nonelderly Americans without coverage to around 18 million over the next decade.” Yet, just before the CBO scored the GOP bill, a spokesperson for House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH) falsely claimed their alternative “will cover millions more Americans” than the Democrats’ bill.
Last night on Fox News Rep. Mike Pence (R-IN) dodged a question about how many uninsured the GOP plan would cover and instead railed at the Democrats for “trying to get at this business of universal coverage”:
PENCE: We believe you get at the coverage issue by lowering the cost of health insurance. … So Republicans by focusing on the cost of health insurance believe that we are going to take our country in a direction where we also deal with the tens of millions of people and employers that struggle with providing insurance.
Watch it:
As usual, the Repiggie plan sounds worse than doing nothing at all. Typical.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:02 amCBO Says GOP Health Care ‘Alternative’ Leaves 52 Million Uninsured By 2019
Mission Accomplished!
November 5th, 2009 at 10:03 amLast night, the Congressional Budget Office released its analysis of the House Republican alternative health care bill.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:04 amAnd this idiot says he doesn’t know if it’s released or not. Lying is one thing, getting caught in a STUPID lie is just dumb. He made an ass out of himself in less than 90 seconds in front of all the FUX viewers!
why hell i feel heather already just reading about this bill.
LOL>>>>>>>>>>>> they say laughter is some of the best medicine well i am sure laughing and well i feel good.
shaking my head.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:04 amGOP wants 52,000,000 Americans to die for lack of health care!
November 5th, 2009 at 10:05 amSo this is a six billion a year subsidy to the insurance companies, since it doesn’t cover any new people. Bushonomics as usual from Republicans. Borrow and blow! Spend money with nothing to show for it.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:06 amOh well…
At least the repiggie congress critters and their families will have “socialist” health care, courtesy of us suckers who have to pay for their lazy butts.
The repiggies are truly the Party of the Stupid.
Anyone that thinks that plan is good deserves to be taken totally.
Haven’t we all had enough of this stupid repiggie crap?
November 5th, 2009 at 10:06 amPilotshark says:
they say laughter is some of the best medicine well i am sure laughing and well i feel good.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:04 am
That’s the next version of the Repiggie “health care” bill. It compliments the “die quickly” version.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:06 amUSNclerk says:And this idiot says he doesn’t know if it’s released or not. Lying is one thing, getting caught in a STUPID lie is just dumb. He made an ass out of himself in less than 90 seconds in front of all the FUX viewers!
see theres the problem all the fuax viewers would not know or if they did its the up is down thing.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:06 amThe best (and most simple) question to ask is “does AHIP support this plan?”.
Yes? That means it’s garbage.
No? We’re making progress.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:07 amI don’t know about you, but I seriously need AHIP replacement.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:09 amSince a large part of the uninsured will be poor, brown skinned people this bill appeals to a certain segment of the population. And that segment watches Fox news and has a propensity for wearing white sheets.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:09 amZooey says:
That’s the next version of the Repiggie “health care” bill. It compliments the “die quickly” version.
LOL>>> i can see it now 10 page bill.. slogan
“laugh until you die quickly” comprehensive care (we all) I mean you all can live with
November 5th, 2009 at 10:10 amHere is what I do not understand. Where are we, the left? Why are we allowing the Republicans to do all of the protesting? We know how to protest. The left has been able to pull hundreds of thousands of people in protest or support of ideas for years but we are strangely silent. It seems that the unions and all of our other organizations should be establishing a march in favor of health reform. I would fly from WA state to DC to participate in such a march and I know many who would do the same. Isn’t it time our voice is heard. We cannot rely on the politicians.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:10 am@9. In hindsight I feel I should add something. YOu do have a point though. But now my question is: What about those of us who use our brains and catch these kinds of lies, just blatant and in your face deflections of facts? How is is we let this asshat keep his job? He’s obviously a crook that has his head so far up the insurance companies’ asses that you can’t tell where he ends and they begin.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:11 amWhy would the GOPshites waste ten sheets of paper on that crap?
Why not just tear off a piece of toilet paper and wipe “No” on it?
That’s what repiggie GOPshite deserves.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:14 amWe all know that Fox Opinion Network only reports lies.
Once again, the Republicans demonstrate that they are the “tax and steal” party. The GOP health care bill is NOT reform. It only gives more taxpayer’s money to the insurance companies.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:14 amUSNclerk says: @15
I hear you and unfounaly i have no good answer for you, other then have to keep fighting the good fight and hopefully the ones in the places were they have these azzhats will start to change them selfs.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:15 amCBO Says GOP Health Care ‘Alternative’ Leaves 52 Million Uninsured By 2019
– - GOP: “But we don’t care since that 52 million will be comprised of the poor and minorities.”
November 5th, 2009 at 10:17 amMoral of the story: it’s easy to claim your plan is cheaper if it doesn’t actually do anything. Come to think of it, that seems to be the business model for the insurers offering individual insurance policies.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:18 amWay to go, GOP! You’re plan actually INCREASES the number of uninsured and everyone knows, more is better.
More uninsured, more debt, more bankruptcies.
NYT predicts premiums (for those who can afford insurance, of course) only lowering by a whopping 0-3%.
These people are living in an alternate realty if they think they can win re-election with plans like these.
De-regulate the healthcare industry to provide more access to healthcare. De-regulate the financial services industry to help the middle class. De-regulate manufacturing and energy consortiums to help “find a free market solution” to envrionmental problems.
Are these people insane or just incredibly disingenuous? (Yeah. I know it doesn’t have to be an “either/or”)
November 5th, 2009 at 10:18 ambut…but….that’s the way to tea baggin FREEDOM!!
November 5th, 2009 at 10:19 amAnd the Republicans STILL don’t get it. Uninsured Americans place a heavy burden on the rest of us.
We get a lot of models and estimates from the CBO and other People Who Keep Track of These Things, explaining how much health care reform will cost us, how many people will be insured, how many people will be uninsured, how many people will die from preventable conditions, etc.
What we really need is an impartial study on what our current broken system is costing us NOW. This may even exist somewhere — I just haven’t found it.
Consider the following factors:
1. Emergency room care for the uninsured. When they can’t pay, the rest of us pay in the form of higher medical fees and higher insurance premiums to take up the slack.
2. Expensive care for the uninsured when neglected preventable conditions reach critical mass. Wouldn’t it be easier and cheaper to pay for someone’s blood pressure medication and doctor visits to monitor hypertension than it is to pay for medical care for a stroke and follow up rehabilitation?
3. Higher prices for goods and services because the companies that provide them are paying higher and higher amounts to insure their employees. When you buy a latte from Starbuck’s, you are paying more for the health insurance of the person serving you than you are for the beans that made your drink.
4. Killing the economy in general. When a family has to pay as much or more for health insurance and health care than they do for their mortgage or rent, they have far less disposable income. Multiply this lack of spending by many families, and you have an economy grinding to a halt.
I’m sure there are many other factors on this list. The point is that our system is costing us a ton of money NOW. It’s meaningless to focus on the “billions” or “trillions” of dollars that reform will supposedly cost without comparing it to what we’re currently paying.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:22 amThe only thing certain about any GNoP ’solution’ is that the corporate coffers get filled first, then any health care that needs to be doled out will be so expensive you can’t afford it.
What a miserable bunch of cretins.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:25 amOn a related health note; On this morning’s Today show, Matt Lauer reported that the Fat Cats on Wall Street are getting the H1N1 flu shots. Never mind that most high risk people(yours truly) are not able to get the vaccination due to the shortage.
Once again, Wall Street flips the country one big F.U.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:26 amDo the republicons ever get tired of lying? This is just like Boehner last week stating with a grin on his face and a twinkle in his eye that the republicon stimulus package would have created millions of more jobs….sigh
November 5th, 2009 at 10:29 amBreaking:
The Boxer bill moves out of committee, with no GOP present and Baucus voting against it (what a shock)
November 5th, 2009 at 10:29 amRemember America is on a regressive path and providing first class healthcare for its citizens is not in the cards. Keeping people dumb and in ill health makes it easy to hold on to power and a no brainer for investing in a sure thing. The dividend checks just keep a comin.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:32 amPence has PROVEN over and over again in the ast few months that he is a SERIAL LIAR. He is one of the worst in the best Glenn Beck, Sean Hannratty, Rush Limberger klan that just makes up stories and tries to tell them as if they were fact. THEY ARE ALL LIES. 1) He should be called on the carpet to account for his lies and, 2) It astounds me that ANY press/media outlet is low enough to let this Pence spew of lies continue?
WHAT ABOUT ThinkProgress??
November 5th, 2009 at 10:34 amThe repiggies criticize the Democrats plan that admittedly costs money but does deliver some level of actual health care reform.
Their solution? Issue their plan that does cost less money, BUT DOES ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!
Now they will pat themselves on their back and congratulate each other for offering a lower-cost alternative solution.
Mission Accomplished indeed!
November 5th, 2009 at 10:37 amSo Bohner’s Bill is a piece of crap? Like we didn’t already know that. ANYTHING the Repugs offer is designed to shaft the Middle Class. If people don’t realize that, then they are terminally stupid.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:38 ammissmolly @ #23 nails it.
If this imaginary “free market & capitalist” economy were responsible for producing the greatest nation on earth then it wouldn’t leave out 1/6 of the population from health insurance, under insure another percentage and even allow people with insurance to go bankrupt due to their health needs as part of the equation.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:42 am52 million uninsured = profit margin needed to maintain status quo
November 5th, 2009 at 10:43 amNote Pence’s tricky language, here. You “get at the coverage issue by lowering the cost of health insurance”. Repeating: the cost of health insurance. What we really need is a lower price of health insurance. Lowering the cost of health insurance increases insurance company profits, whereas lowering the price of insurance increases coverage. And it is abundantly clear that lowering the cost of health insurance does nothing to lower the price of health insurance. It is COMPETITION that lowers the price of health insurance.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:44 amAND, I’m emailing Pelosi’s office about her dropping Kucinich’s state option for single payer amendment from the house version of the bill. That’s something we all can do…
November 5th, 2009 at 11:01 amUSNClerk, 10 years ago, I would have agreed with you that getting caught in a lie is just plain stupid and dumb.
But in the last 8 years, the repubs have done it so consistently, and the public just sits there and doesn’t notice.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:16 amThe repiggies tell lies, and then they begin to believe their own lies.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:20 amRepublicans Try to Rally Resistance to Health Care Bill, as House Vote Nears
November 5th, 2009 at 11:39 amFOXNews – ?1 hour ago?
The GOP is organizing a “House Call” Thursday afternoon on Capitol Hill, where they plan to rally constituents concerned about the implications of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s bill.
Republicans Push Their Health Plan Baltimore Sun
Rove: Tuesday’s Suburban Vote Swing Wall Street Journal
National Underwriter Life and Health Insurance News – Boston Globe – Atlantic Online (blog) – Atlanta Journal Constitution
all 800 news articles »
Swell. Republican’s allow insurance as long as you:
- Don’t lose your job.
- Don’t start a new business.
- Don’t get sick.
Perfect.
November 5th, 2009 at 12:15 pmUncle Fester Lurks says:
Do the republicons ever get tired of lying? This is just like Boehner last week stating with a grin on his face and a twinkle in his eye that the republicon stimulus package would have created millions of more jobs….sigh
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Oh yea, I remember that one,that`s where they wanted huge tax cuts for the wealthy so they just keep gambling on Wall St and to keep the trickle down supply side economics system going that has created how many jobs in the past 30 years?
CRICKETS
November 5th, 2009 at 12:16 pm1. the people COVERED by the bill are elderly.
-the non-elderly don’t need it as much as they are still able to WORK, therefore they are able to receive employer-based health care.
2. While I don’t think ANY health care bill should be passed without MONTHS of HONEST debate, the Republican plan costs a FRACTION of what the Progressive plan does.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:29 pm-I have not examined the Rep. bill though, so I am not sure if I even support it yet.
Awhile back, the Republicans were using CBO figures to show the cost of one Dem plan would increase the deficit. Now that the CBO has rated the new plans, the Republicans do not want to talk about those figures. They are trying to have it both ways with their politics and the Dems should be beating them over the head with this new report. The Republicans are going to avoid this new report and this is the time for them to be put on the hot seat. C’mon Dems, make their day.
November 5th, 2009 at 2:07 pmAs bad as the GOP looks, I sense a little hypocrisy here.
This is a PRELIMINARY analysis by CBO – TP didn’t point this out but was quick to do so when CBO did a preliminary analysis (that was leaked) of the dems’ health plan a few months ago.
Will the GOP plan be better scored in the CBO’s final analysis (whenever that is)? Who knows but hopefully ThinkProgress will write it up, either way and do an honest comparison with the dems’ health plan. That did not happen in this TP article. Sorry to be straight and objective here, but that’s the way I am. I wish more people were.
November 5th, 2009 at 4:00 pmFrankly, we shouldn’t be spending ANYTHING without first controlling the $5Billion of annual waste in Medicare.
We should also scrap EVERY other entitlement program and demand that the extra money from the omnibus plan is destroyed so we can begin to reel in our impending hyper-inflation.
It is absolutely assenine to spend MORE money at this point on ANYTHING that will not directly stimulate the economy.
I haven’t heard as much about the Republican bill, so I can’t entirely defend it. The only thing that I CAN defend about it as that it is 10 times SHORTER (in page length) than the Dem bill.
That will eliminate a LOT of waste, bloated bureaucracy, and shadowy socialist agendas.
It’s time for BOTH parties to be HONEST and forward about everything for what it IS. The Dem bill is socialist, but it provides full government care that will be rationed.
The Republican bill misses the target by far, but is [presumably] off to a better start (in terms of maintaining constitutional integrity and well within the capitalist market ideals).
November 5th, 2009 at 4:02 pmjdmh
Drops in to show how stupid he is and spew out a few moronic talking points Rush has programmed him with. Its ok I love a free clown show as much as the next guy. It is always amusing to laugh at someone as stupid as jdmh
November 6th, 2009 at 5:42 am