Ft. Hood murder suspect alive and in stable condition.
By on Nov 5th, 2009 at 9:37 pm
Ft. Hood murder suspect alive and in stable condition.
At a press conference moments ago, Lt. Gen. Robert Cone, commanding general of the Army’s III Corps and Fort Hood, revealed that contrary to initial media reports, the suspected shooter in the Ft. Hood murders is not dead. The suspect, Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan, is reportedly “in stable condition” and his death is “not imminent.” The female first responder who shot Hasan is also alive. Cone further reported that, while he’s not ruling out terrorism as possible motive for the shootings, the “evidence does not suggest” it was an act of terrorism.
Update Thirteen individuals have died, and 30 were wounded. Two of the victims were civilians; the rest were military. (Subsequent media reports say only one of the dead was a civilian.) He did not offer any comments about Maj. Hasan during the briefing, only stating that he has had "no personal background with him." While he confirmed that other suspects were taken into custody, Cone said that evidence indicates "it was a single shooter" who was carrying at least one semi-automatic weapon. Tomorrow, Ft. Hood will observe a day of mourning.
Update Hasan reportedly “hired a military lawyer and had been trying since September to avoid deployment to Iraq and leave the Army.” A co-worker identified as Col. Terry Lee told Fox News that Hasan “opposed the U.S. role in Iraq and Afghanistan and told others that ‘we should not be in the war in the first place.’” Lee added that Hasan “became more agitated, more frustrated with the conflicts over there" as a pullout from the war zones did not seem to be in the cards.
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MSNBC reported earlier that this man is a psychiatrist who treated men coming home from Iraq.
He is said to have been upset about being deployed to Iraq.
Is this still the case?
November 5th, 2009 at 9:40 pm“the evidence does not suggest” it was an act or terrorism.
That won’t stop Malignant Malkin, Limpballs or the Trolls from saying so. Reality is not their thing.
November 5th, 2009 at 9:42 pmWe’ll ahve to wait and see LL. right now, my gut says this was a crimminal act, not a case of terroism. The evidence available seems to lean that way.
November 5th, 2009 at 9:44 pmLiberty@1, Yes. Apparently, he was upset that he was being deployed and didn’t even tell his family about it. He is unmarried, no children. He was born in America and is a Muslim. He served for years and was a grad of Virginia Tech.(Yes, that is weird)
November 5th, 2009 at 9:44 pmMy heart goes out to the familys devastated by this. Just unbelievable.
November 5th, 2009 at 9:45 pmFt. Hood murder suspect alive and in stable condition.
– - To be famously dead is to be famously used. The truth can now be known.
November 5th, 2009 at 9:45 pm“was a grad of Virginia Tech.” OMG
November 5th, 2009 at 9:46 pmWhy the smoke and mirrors routine?
They couldn’t tell if he was dead or alive? Zombie?
November 5th, 2009 at 9:46 pmJim@2 Already on Faux news Shep had on Kay Hucthison when he said, “His name says a lot.” In which she replied,”Yes, Shep, it does.” So already we have the Faux news slanting the story.
November 5th, 2009 at 9:47 pm#2, Texas Senator Kay Bailey Hutchison had this to say today on FOX:
A not so subtle reference to Muslim name = must be a terrorist.
November 5th, 2009 at 9:47 pmWell, already Faux news is framing the debate. How long do you think MSM will follow? Then the real story will be forgotten and Obama will be blamed somehow. The same old, same old.
November 5th, 2009 at 9:50 pmAlready on Faux news Shep had on Kay Hucthison when he said, “His name says a lot.” In which she replied,”Yes, Shep, it does.” So already we have the Faux news slanting the story.
And to think I once had high hopes for Shep Smith. I thought that he alone was the closest thing to being a decent human being as you could find at Fox News Channel. The good Senator’s latent bigotry doesn’t surprise me, but I thought Shep “This is America and we don’t…f ucking…torture!” Smith was better than that. It saddens me a little to learn I was wrong.
November 5th, 2009 at 9:52 pmWhen I first heard his name, I wondered how long it would take before someone made a stupid statement like this before having all the facts. It turns out that I didn’t have to wait long at all.
Too bad his last name wasn’t McVeigh.
November 5th, 2009 at 9:52 pmI’d say a very mentally disturbed individual… look at it this way – I read in one story that this officer was attacked about his name/religion by other soldiers continually.. how messed up does your mind get when you are of (reportedly) muslim faith defending the US in a war vs mainly muslim extremists, you are about to be deployed to Iraq .. and work as a psychiatrist listening to others with PTSD every day..
There’s no defense for any of his actions.. but I can clearly see signs of what might have caused him to crack..
November 5th, 2009 at 9:54 pmBoy that didn’t take long Faux! Way to go aholes!
November 5th, 2009 at 9:54 pmAnd Kay? STFU.
Wayne@12, Yeah, Shep had his moments. His true personality has broken through. Just like Lidsay Graham. For years he was a di*k, but lately he has become a ally. Too little, too late.
November 5th, 2009 at 9:56 pmUS Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison (R-TX), Fox host Shepard Smith asked: “The names tells us a lot, does it not, senator?”
“It does,” Hutchison replied. “It does, Shepard.”
– - Hey pinheads, here’s another name that tells us a lot – Meb Keflezighi.
November 5th, 2009 at 9:57 pmDon’t forget Kay is in heated race with with Rick (Secede!) Perry. Maybe she feels she has to step over to the crazy side.
November 5th, 2009 at 9:58 pm“…the “evidence does not suggest” it was an act of terrorism.”
The trolls will conveniently skip over that part of the story.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:00 pmI read where his parents were from near Jerusalem [Israel]
November 5th, 2009 at 10:02 pmLiz Morrison
November 5th, 2009 at 10:04 pmThey are inherently weak and scared. Preemption is a proven method. Thank you.
The trolls can do what they damn well please. After the performance today at the so-called ‘Health Care Protest’, I couldn’t give a sh*t. What were they protesting? Not friggin health care. All I saw were a bunch of Neanderthals carry racist signs, exploiting the Holocaust, and low intelligent baffoons. Some ‘Big tent’. What a bunch of As*holes.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:05 pmya Xisithrus… he has one brother in the US and one in the middle east.. I forget where.. but — once again, that adds to the profile of his head just being f’d up from it all.. I have a feeling he generally had mixed loyalties because of all of this.. and lost it.
I dunno.. luckily we won’t need to speculate – we should find out soon.
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And what IS the “real” story? Oh yea, it’s Bush”s fault
—
November 5th, 2009 at 10:10 pmSee that is weird because the line I have been hearing is that it is because of his religion…
I saw pictures from the scene, people looked pretty terrified
—-
November 5th, 2009 at 10:11 pmReagan supported terrorism…
Popatop…
No matter how you look at it – It’s clearly Nidal Malik Hasan’s fault. As I said.. there’s absolutely no excuse for any of this.. none.
The wars on the other hand.. especially the one Hasan was about to head to ARE Bush’s fault…
something else there’s simply NO excuse for.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:11 pm@24. STFU. I never said ANYTHING about Bush. Go hide in your cave Neanderthal. I am not in the mood.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:12 pmtell you what – that rachel is a class act, the way she handled this story, the breaking press conference, and summation of that…
also – i heard a promo earlier: “Rachel’s back on Meet the Press!”
just sayin’…
i think it’s great news that major hasan is alive – the better to figure it all out, i guess…
and that the female first responder who shot hasan is also alive – most excellent… you go girl.
incredible sympathy for the victims and families… horrific,
November 5th, 2009 at 10:14 pmIts not Bushs’ fault poptop. He didnt want to go to Iraq after hearing all the horror stories from people he was working to help.
He snapped, not because of religion, but because of the horrors of war. And Hutchinson allowing Shepard to frame the issue around a ‘name’ is ludicdrous
November 5th, 2009 at 10:15 pm25, Lt. Gen. Robert Cone was there and you weren’t (though you did see pictures). Of course he doesn’t share your point of view. So you ignored him.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:15 pmPopatop says:
And what IS the “real” story? Oh yea, it’s Bush”s fault
November 5th, 2009 at 10:08 pm
Bush did take us into Iraq for no valid reason, other than he needed to be a “War President.”
Oh yeah, you get a woody about dead troops for absolutely no reason.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:16 pmBtw, you were the first person to mention Bush. Check it out.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:16 pmDoesn’t Kay Biotch Hutchison have plans to run for governor?
With that nasty slip of prejudiced behavior she just offended all non white citizens of TX.
What a campaign ad.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:18 pm35, Kay’s for bigotry. Perry’s for secession. Take your pick.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:21 pmThe anger displayed on Bush was NOTHING compared to the way the hatred is displayed against Obama. The hosility, the racism, the venom is unpresidented. These Repugs are destroying thier Party. Who will vote for them now? The 4,000 lost souls at the rally? The ‘Internets’ will destroy them. In a few decades, WHITES will be the minority. The Repugs forget that. Good.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:22 pmHassan is an Irish, Arabic and Hebrew surname. It is spelled either Hasan, Hassan, Hassen, Hasson, Hassin, Hassine, Hacen, Hasen, Hasin, Hass, Hassa, Hasa, Haas, Cassin, Chassan, Chasan, Khassan, Khasan, Cassan, Casan, Hasso, Hassanein, Hassani, Hasani, Alhassan, Al-Hassan, Hasanov, Hasanovic, O’Hassan or Hasaan.
Hutchinson..Shepard. They should use wikipedia before going on air.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:24 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
He was born in Virginia IMONA and joined the Army after high school. His parents live just outside Jerusalem, Israel before moving here.
He was American born, igmoe, please learn to read before spouting off.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:28 pmi heard (on msnbc) one guy say that the many casualties was because of the semi-automatic gun used…
another (lt. cone?), spoke about soldiers performing first aid on the victims, how that kept the casualties down…
not to start a fight here, but not lifting the ban on semi-automatics would’ve kept the casualties down, not?
and who did that…?
November 5th, 2009 at 10:32 pmX@40, Why do we bother? They are unthinking sheeple. I try not to respond to them, but they make it hard don’t they? Reasoning is not part of their genetic make-up, like intelligence. THEY have to be told waht to do. It’s like preaching to a brick wall. I gets so tiring. They wrap themselves in God and the flag and have the balls to call themselves ‘Patriots’. But they are ‘Arm Chair warriors’ Kind of like Cheney, Bush and Limpballs.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:34 pmSoooo, how many times did you protest “Rovian cover up(s)” during the Bush administration? That’s right.
Never.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:34 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Too bad you haven’t been killed.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:36 pmHi conservative guy. We have a justice system that handles things in a more civilized way.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:37 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
conservative guy says:
Tobad this POS wasn’t killed.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:35 pm
You’ll just have to jack off to Bachmann’s spinning head on the Capital steps instead.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:39 pmIf you want to honor the memory of Noor Almaleki, troll,
November 5th, 2009 at 10:39 pmquit portraying the same abusive personality traits he had.
But then republican trolls like you have no honor,do they?
Just false pride.
Shame on you.
44, Get A BRAIN! MORAN
November 5th, 2009 at 10:39 pmXisithrus says:
He was born in Virginia IMONA and joined the Army after high school. His parents live just outside Jerusalem, Israel before moving here.
That kills all the hate mongering garbage the righties were hoping to spew.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:40 pmBy “he”, I meant Noor Almaleki’s father.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:40 pmAs a vet it breaks my heart to see my fellow brethren slain in such a brutal and cowardly fashion. No doubt the military justice system will prevail and my fallen and injured brothers-in-arms will not be forgotten.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:41 pm#39.. troll.. listen I am not without my suspicions of our FBI/CIA and government – mainly due to the events of 9/11.. but you are overboard.
cover up? What exactly would the cover up be? You need to give me some sort of motive.. your statement makes no sense whatsoever.
he was thought dead at the time of first report – then he was confirmed alive.. no mystery.
He is of Jordanian DECENT..not from Jordan.. and not born there – of Jordanian DECENT – I’ve heard nothing of Syria – although check a map once.. they’re side by side.. it would be an understandable mistake.
His web postings in question seem to have not been enough for them to ‘watch’ him as you say.. just was something that had been flagged to them as an uncomfortable message he had posted. It isn’t as if he was under surveillance or something.. and he hadn’t done anything sufficient to see him as some type of threat.
anyway.. though I considered some of the info seemingly questionable in the reports -I feel at this point it’s only because of the obvious – they are digging up whatever they can find on him and we are getting some false information reported.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:41 pm47, You’re right. You haven’t changed a bit. We, on the other hand, won NY-23 and are getting health care. Deal with it.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:42 pmTeabaggers are furious that dead soldiers get the headlines and not their anti-American whine-fest.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:42 pmOh God, The trolls are out in full force aren’t they? HEY trolls. What’s up with the signs at the Bachman Rally? Can you explain the Holocaust poster? Or the one with Obama as the Joker? Or the fact the ‘protesters’ were white, older and pathetic? Or the fact that there only, MAYBE 6,000 of them? EXPLAIN that!
November 5th, 2009 at 10:43 pmMemory, your bp is probably skyrocketing right now. Call your insurer, lie down, enjoy your heart attack.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:44 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
59, Really because it says “crummy funnies” on the web page you link to and there’s nothing funny there. And there’s nothing about Noor Almaleki. Were you trying to be funny about that too? Have you ever been funny? Do your friends consider you funny? Both of them?
November 5th, 2009 at 10:49 pmNaturally, the troll “missed” this clarification:
Typical.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:50 pmSo do you have to study under some sort of master from the age of 3 at some sort of mountaintop shrine to learn which words to bold and which not?
November 5th, 2009 at 10:50 pmOr do you have any friends? Do you need a hug?
November 5th, 2009 at 10:51 pmI amended my post at 10:40pm, troll.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:53 pmYou probably missed that, since you are blinded by prejudice.
wow.. epic fail on my part – #54 I typed ‘Decent’ instead of ‘Descent..’ twice..bolded even.. brilliant move.
..now I’m embarrassed
November 5th, 2009 at 10:54 pmWhat do you expect from a troll? Their leaders suck. Bohner recited the Declaration of Independence instead of the Constitution. One other bozo screwed up the the Pledge of Allegence. These guys are worthy of Webster. Under the defintion of : Bone Head Leaders- Republicans from the year of 1994-present.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:56 pmWTF does NOOR have to do with this???
November 5th, 2009 at 10:56 pmP.D., “indivisible” is a liberal word.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:57 pmLiz@68, LOL! Thanks for that. I needed a laugh. It’s been a long, tiring day.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:01 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
@70, Go stick it.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:05 pmThis guys is bald, that tells us a lot. (you get to fox news parody?)
November 5th, 2009 at 11:06 pmWhile soldiers were being murdered, teabagging scumbag hicks were protesting Americans getting health care. How telling.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:08 pm70, When you try to be funny it doesn’t work. Watch Rush.
See? He tries. He’s not funny.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:08 pmWhat is NOORs point?
November 5th, 2009 at 11:09 pmThe only commonality of Noor’s father an this shooter is religion.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:10 pmRacist will bend over backwards and tie themselves into intellectual knots to paint generalizations that will validate their prejudice.
Furthermore “furthermore” is one word. Or were you trying to be funny?
November 5th, 2009 at 11:10 pmBadmoodman says:
Ft. Hood murder suspect alive and in stable condition.
– – To be famously dead is to be famously used. The truth can now be known.
Why would a mass murderer tell the truth?
November 5th, 2009 at 11:11 pm75, Ask him to take off his hat and he’ll show it to you.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:11 pmdoes post #70 even make sense? nice to know paranoid schizophrenics can get access to the internet, but they’ve got a long way to go in sentence structure.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:12 pmI guess NOOR wants us to conflate 911 and Ft Hood??
November 5th, 2009 at 11:12 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
#70. I think everyone was a bit bothered by the manner that Obama went about addressing it.. let’s be honest – it should have been the first thing out of his mouth.. but on the same token – I find it ridiculous that we immediately need to hear the president give his obligatory view on it.. what do we expect him to say? We had practically no information at the time.. and all he had to say was that it was horrific.. which we all knew.
As I said.. it should’ve been his first statement.. not a regular greeting and then to mention it – but otherwise Obama handled it appropriately -
and it was a terrible event.. but not at all the same as a terrorist attack taking out the trade towers and Bush sitting on his ass reading a children’s book – there’s no parallel.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:15 pmRemember that George Bush’s buddies, the Saudis, were the FINANCIERS of Al Queda.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:15 pmIt doesn’t matter what religion he practiced.
He was an US officer who deceived the military and used his authority to kill his fellow soldiers.
This will be addressed and taken care of.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:16 pm81, AaronQ, he’s a conservative comedian (I know, it’s an oxymoron). Let’s give him some time to work on and polish his material.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:17 pm@Tim43:
I am sure that you good compassionate conservatives are pleased that soldiers were murdered. Now you can get one of hate am radio Gods to rejoice in their deaths and use their deaths to help push your radical and perverse anti-American agenda.
To you, these soldier’s death is less important than your radical and perverse anti-American agenda.
Ohh but you will make sure that working Americans not get health care, because you rather see Americans dies and soldiers get murdered.
But what should you care? You are trailer trash hicks who have never served or contributed to society and who have never run a business or met a payroll.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:20 pmIt’s called vicarious trauma – and it appears he suffered from it. No excuses. “Physician, heal thyself”…
November 5th, 2009 at 11:20 pmTim43, don’t blame us because you couldn’t get into community college, spelling is a requirement. Take a remedial (bonehead) english course and try again next fall.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:20 pmDoc, Disk Cheney didn’t serve?!
November 5th, 2009 at 11:21 pmTim43 .. you’re a Dick – and an ignorant one.
This guy is a murderer.. I’m glad he’s alive so he can first explain why in the hell he killed a dozen people – and answer for what he has done to them and their families.
and then rot the rest of his life in jail.
And then after the first part of your comment – you reveal you don’t give a rat’s ASS about the people killed because you launch into some rant about big government? You stupid fcuk – you show that you haven’t a decent bone in your body.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:22 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Actually, Soros lived under Nazi occupation.
The Bush Crime Family were/ARE the Nazis/Sympathizers.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:24 pm@Tim43:
While Soldiers were being murdered, you inbred teabagging hicks were whining and protesting like pathetic anti-American scumbags.
We know who are the hicks, timheee, it’s you and your terrorist teabagging friends.
But, at least you are getting your free ride from the x-Nazi sympathizers herr dubyah and his family, Dick Armey, and Rupert Murdoch, right?
November 5th, 2009 at 11:26 pmTim43 I wouldn’t insult hicks by calling you one.
It’s “mourn” not “morn”. You’re not going to get into a JC unless you stop wasting time and start studying. Don’t be “left behind”.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:26 pmTim43 is a hick…
November 5th, 2009 at 11:27 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
tim what exactly did obama spend all that money on?
November 5th, 2009 at 11:29 pmfrom FOX news:
Was it necessary to put the word Muslim in their report?
what b@stards.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:30 pmExcuse me everyone…..
I would just like to take this moment to acknowledge the excellent posts of Liz Morrison.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:30 pmSTFU, Timmie, you feebleminded nincompoop. You’re full of shit, and worse still, you lie. Your hero, Dubya Bush’s grandpappy, was an AUTHENTIC Nazi – not just a sympathizer.
Check and mate, moron.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:30 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
83–I read on the intertubes that he was meeting with Sec. Gates and other militaty officials before making a statement to the press, plus about the time that it happened he was meeting with a Native American Affairs group.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:31 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
102, Off the rails and staring at goats. Put down the glue and go to bed Tim.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:32 pmIt’s been a while since someone who couldn’t figure out how to hyperlink decided to be a cut-n-paste hero.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:33 pmAnnie, Tim’s got a name jack buddy. One’s crazy the other’s crazier.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:34 pmThat’s a darned upstanding organization that has been unfairly maligned.
Now the bush administration, that’s a whole different kettle of fish.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:35 pmGolly gee, Tim43,
November 5th, 2009 at 11:35 pmYou know all the words you posted were lies.
You gave your best fight
So, log off for the night
And pray to God that your hate never dies.
tim thinks obama out spent bush, but can’t seem to say how…
November 5th, 2009 at 11:36 pm106, Aaron hyperlink is a second year course at community college. Tim has to be accepted first.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:36 pmTimmy….where did ya go? Did you have to wank off to your joy of a soliders’ deaths?
November 5th, 2009 at 11:37 pmFred, I think that’s the name jack buddy. Look for copy and paste posts, that’s Tim’s calling card.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:38 pmoops–military–
November 5th, 2009 at 11:39 pmIt think that’s obvious. Odd that you think health care reform won’t pass.
You didn’t think:
November 5th, 2009 at 11:40 pmthe stimulus would pass
Obama would win
dems would be the majority in both houses
that tax cuts for the rich and deregulation were bad ideas
that Iraw had WMD’s…..oh wait, you did think that.
Anyways, I wanted to toy out this cat-n-mouse game about bush’s spending then bring the hammer down when I revealed that the entire middle east wars were never put in a budget and never counted towards bush’s spending. So Obama came into office with an 11 Trillion dollar debt. And Retards like Timmy will lie however they can to get themselves off.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:42 pmLiz Morrison, great. Thanks.
I thought I was spending too much time here and now I’m starting to think it’s not enough.
(sigh)
November 5th, 2009 at 11:42 pm102–That’s the first time tonight that you’ve told the truth.
Your post doesn’t make sense.
BTW–U.S. budgets run from Oct 1 of one year to Oct 1 of the next, and surprise, surprise only 16% of this fiscal year 2008-2009 budget belongs to the Obama Administration. The rest belongs to W.
You need to know what you’re talking about before you go against the masters and mistresses of TP.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:46 pmTrolls kenneth and coal miner are getting all touchy feely
November 5th, 2009 at 11:48 pmon the coloring book thread.
Any of you dirty hippies got a bar of soap I can borrow?
The army’s best defense against these type to outbursts so far has to point the angry army men at the brown people… they were just a few days too late for this kettle.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:50 pmTim43 says:
ACORN!!! ACORN!!! ACORN!!!!
43 must be your IQ as you apparently fell for the entrapment the neocons set up spending much $$$$ and a lot of time getting the little bit of irregularities they found.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:50 pmokie, I know Kenny (he has a crush on me) but who the hell is ”coal miner”?
November 5th, 2009 at 11:50 pmTim43,
What is with all the ranting and screeching?
This thread is about events at Fort Hood.
What is your problem?
You can’t contribute to a single topic?
You get your broad brush out and paint with generalizations.
This is an open forum, discipline yourself and contribute!
November 5th, 2009 at 11:50 pm“Reagan proved deficits don’t matter” – Vice President Dick Cheney
“The Constitution is just a GD piece of Paper” George W. Bush
November 6th, 2009 at 12:00 amActually, sociologists have been proving for 100 years that the death penalty does NOT deter. That’s why killers commit suicide or “death by cop”. That’s why McVeigh asked to end appeals and hurry up with the execution. I say lock them up forever and study them.
November 6th, 2009 at 12:01 amI don’t know, Liz, but his writing doesn’t look like he’s spent too much in a coal mine. Maybe he can tutor some of the other trolls.
November 6th, 2009 at 12:01 amokie, TP’s first astro-troll!
November 6th, 2009 at 12:05 amACORN bad media and lies debunked.
November 6th, 2009 at 12:13 amThat’s what I’m thinking, Liz.
November 6th, 2009 at 12:20 amHe’s still going at.
Hyperventilate,
You are sick and you love the idea of people getting hurt.
November 6th, 2009 at 12:27 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
no.
1) Not a terrorist.
November 6th, 2009 at 12:30 am2) TP is not a person, thus not able to opinionate.
3) The police don’t get to exact revenge on their own.
4) Are you calling him a terrorist because you see all Americans as terrorists?
Londra, do you realize that you are saying it is good he did not die and you are looking forward to his death at the same time?
If we had a CiC with balls, would we bomb Arlington and Virginia Tech?
November 6th, 2009 at 12:33 ammaybe in your backwards state.
November 6th, 2009 at 12:35 amYes. Needles carrying lethal liquids. ;)
Unfortunately, we are still behind the civilized world in that regard. We also lead the civilized world in homicide rate.
November 6th, 2009 at 12:36 amI guess you bring out the worst in people.
November 6th, 2009 at 12:39 amoh I get it hyper inflation is a racist! ” Ignorance is the crutch of hate” -Me
November 6th, 2009 at 12:40 amHasan is a product of the American culture.
November 6th, 2009 at 12:40 amHasan is the product of cut cutting army screening processes.
November 6th, 2009 at 12:42 amcost-cutting*
November 6th, 2009 at 12:42 amHypertension, how’s that bp?
Check out these values from Londra kulesi muhaf?z?
November 6th, 2009 at 12:43 amThere are millions of American Muslims who do not kill and there are way over a Billion Muslims in the world who do not kill. We (Christians) have recently killed hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians who did nothing to us.
Germany and Italy in WWII were Christian.
November 6th, 2009 at 12:43 amThis boggles the mind. A Major!? The man was a pretty high ranking officer. You don’t get to be a Major by slipping through the cracks. I’m sorry, I live near Fort Lewis, WA and I know several military folks and I just can’t process this.
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Agree about deterrence. People kill because:
1. Heightened emotional response, ‘crimes of passion’ if you will. People flip out, there’s no deterrent to that.
2. Mental defect. ‘Insanity’ for want of a better word. You can’t deter mental illness anymore than you can deter the flu with a law or the threat of a specific punishment.
3. Profit. These people plan their murders carefully and have no reason to believe they will be caught so, again, the threat of specific punishment is not a deterrent.
If the death penalty was an effective deterrent to murder then murder would have gone the way of the Dodo 2000 years ago.
November 6th, 2009 at 12:45 amoh we got a crying baby clicking vote down to everyone. Mature. and so subtile.
November 6th, 2009 at 12:45 amwow hyperinflation, I don’t usually resort to name-calling but for you I might make an exception. nah, Not worth it. But seriously you shouldn’t be on this site, you’re not smart enough.
November 6th, 2009 at 12:48 am- considering I see this conversation about Hasan going nowhere.. I don’t see a problem in returning to the topic of the deficit..
Was just reading an interesting book about economics – and got to this paragraph -
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In the 1980s, public-choice theory developed the idea that a conservative government might intentionally increase the national debt through tax cuts in order to bind the hands of a subsequent liberal government. More of the budget would
have to be used for interest payments, thereby precluding a liberal government from spending as much as it would like on consumption.It has also been argued that a conservative government prefers inefficient tax systems in order to restrain a future liberal government’s ability to raise revenue to finance new spending
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I hadn’t realized that many economists have put forward the idea of deliberately creating budget deficits.. to try to force fiscal responsibility by the following administration — have you ever heard of something so damn ridiculous? I hadn’t. Look at what these ridiculous budget deficit experiments have brought.. not only was it an excellent excuse to both give the rich tax breaks.. but also spend yourself into a pit – you could then claim it as a reasonable approach to force the next guys to spend responsibly… this seems to be what the last administration tried – with the absolute intent of leaving the next administration with a big hole.. and force them to have nothing to work with — it’s somewhat ingenious in a way.. – if it weren’t for the fact that it’s so careless..give them a mess, and they will be discredited for not doing something about it – their political capital will be spent mopping it up.. – what a reckless policy..
anyway.. just food for thought – thought i’d share.
November 6th, 2009 at 12:49 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Hyperventilate,
You are a hypocrite because you do not criticize Christians who kill many millions of innocent civilian women and children.
November 6th, 2009 at 12:50 amYou don’t criticize the fourteen murderers out of Fort Carson, who were not Muslim.
November 6th, 2009 at 12:51 amwhy would the democrats care what race he was? democrats are not really trying to appeal to racists anyways. Racist often think eveyone else is also racist.
November 6th, 2009 at 12:53 am#155 Londra…
uh.. no.
I was thinking it was tragic.. and wondering what the hell brought a person to take the life of a dozen people and wound 31 more…
and you are apparently a sick puppy.
November 6th, 2009 at 12:54 amHyperinflation says:
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There are millions of American Muslims who do not kill
Just give ‘em time….
November 6th, 2009 at 12:45 am
Yeah ….Maybe one day , they too will illegally and stupidly invade a sovereign nation without cause or provocation , jackass…..
November 6th, 2009 at 12:56 amThey are two sick puppies.
November 6th, 2009 at 12:57 amHyperinflation says:
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and wondering what the hell brought a person to take the life of a dozen people and wound 31 more…
allah? jihad?
November 6th, 2009 at 12:57 am
Non-existent WMD’s ? No ties to al Qeada ? No involvement in 9/11 ?
November 6th, 2009 at 1:00 amAllah and jihad do not explain Timothy McVeigh or the killing of six million Jews.
November 6th, 2009 at 1:01 amgo away you are a racist antagonizer sent by terrorists to disrupt american intellectuals.
November 6th, 2009 at 1:01 amHyperidiot –
people kill people.. all the time. For no religious reasons.. ever heard the term ‘going postal’?
where the hell do you think the term comes from? muslims?
some times it is religious.. all times they are just nuts. What the hell is the difference? Crazy is crazy – just ask all your conservative talk show ring leaders.. they’ll tell ya
November 6th, 2009 at 1:02 amTim43: Be careful who you call hicks matt. Not everyone who protests out of control government and high taxes fits your narrow view of opposing points of view. The current administration has out spent Bush 4 to 1 and saddled future generations with a debt that they will be hard pressed to pay.
Yeah, don’t you hate it when people stereotype those they disagree with? Thank god you’re way above that.
But what should you care? You are childless community college sophmores who have never run a business or met a payroll.
Oh, well, maybe not.
November 6th, 2009 at 1:03 amlux says:
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Crazy is crazy – just ask all your conservative talk show ring leaders.. they’ll tell ya
November 6th, 2009 at 1:02 am
They’re actually more apt to act like it…….
November 6th, 2009 at 1:04 amHyperinflation says:
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Keith says:
Divert much?
November 6th, 2009 at 1:04 am
Moron much ?
November 6th, 2009 at 1:08 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Hyper, you are so positive he was carrying out a jihad and I was trying to give you examples of killing innocents that was not part of a jihad. If it truly is part of a jihad, maybe it was brought about by us killing the hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis or backing and funding the killing of Palestinian women and children.
November 6th, 2009 at 1:11 amLondra.. Hasan will be going away for the rest of his life
and that’s what he deserves.
what is your point?
November 6th, 2009 at 1:11 amhyperinflation is a self centered man-child who NEEDS attention because he always wanted to be a motorcycle rider but never had the guts to get one. the people he works with thinks he is a moron and coward. his few girl friends never cared much but felt bad because he was so needy. He has lived in a submissive life style for so long he has forgotten what forming an opinion is like. Although he has discovered that automatically contradicting people gets him attention. But he is so dumb that he doesn’t realize he drives people away by being so disagreeable. He flocks to groups like the tea baggers because he thinks if he takes on their ideas he will be accepted, but even they realize his is not sincere, and he is again rejected. so he trolls websites late at night changing his name so often because he is afraid of confrontation. Cowardly, Lonely, and Stupid sums it up.
November 6th, 2009 at 1:13 amIs that the porn spammer lecturing us on morality?
November 6th, 2009 at 1:13 amsurely you will not be phased from your 3 word responses. But deep down you know, its true.
November 6th, 2009 at 1:15 amHyperinflation says:
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I’ll take that as a “yes, I divert from terrorism every chance I get.”
November 6th, 2009 at 1:10 am
So claims the moron who adores the colossal imbecile that called off the hunt for Bin Laden ; to illegally (and stupidly) invade a sovereign nation that had about as much to do with recent terrorism incidents as the GOP has politicians that actually make sense when they speak……
November 6th, 2009 at 1:15 amoh now he s back to voting everyone down. man-children are SOOOO predicable. and repetitive, and uncreative. and cowardly, and hated, and impotent.
November 6th, 2009 at 1:16 amA very good argument can be made that the biggest terrorist in recent history was George Bush, and you sympathize with him!!!
November 6th, 2009 at 1:18 amHyperinflation says:
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I wonder if ol’ Hasan will be charged with a hate crime?
LOL! You’re kidding, right? A “hate crime” means a mean ole whitey beat up a nice ole blacky.
November 6th, 2009 at 1:11 am
A hate crime, also known as a bias crime, is a criminal offense committed against a person, property, or society that is motivated, in whole or in part, by the offender’s bias against a race, religion, disability, sexual orientation, or ethnicity/national origin , you moron …..
November 6th, 2009 at 1:18 amHyperinflation says:
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oh now he s back to voting everyone down.
Hypocrite much?
November 6th, 2009 at 1:18 am
aaronQ doesn’t vote everyone down ; just YOU , dipshit .
Ignorant much ?
November 6th, 2009 at 1:21 amlike hating someone because of their religion
November 6th, 2009 at 1:21 amyou’ve already used that one hyper, you realize everyone is a hypocrite? and by saying it you realize it not an insult right? and not and argument. and not a point. and not even close to an observation. Man, you’re so easy, like like hitting candy with a baby.
November 6th, 2009 at 1:21 amBut you’re not here to argue, you’re here to terrorize us. Because your dear leaders told you to. SLAVE!
November 6th, 2009 at 1:23 amIsn’t that: “taking candy from a baby”? :-)
November 6th, 2009 at 1:23 amHyperinflation says:
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A very good argument can be made
Not by you! Please, show me where I have defended or “sympathized” with Bush?
November 6th, 2009 at 1:20 am
When have you ever written a post that was critical of that life-long moron and failure , stupid ass ?
I’ve never seen one…..
November 6th, 2009 at 1:25 amits really hard to take candy from babies. But all you have to do is let the baby loose and they “hit” candy so fast.
November 6th, 2009 at 1:25 amThat’s me voting you down!
November 6th, 2009 at 1:27 amHyperinflation says:
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When you cry about getting voted down while voting down, you’re a HYPOCRITE!
November 6th, 2009 at 1:25 am
Who’s “crying” , you stupid bastard ?
All I’ve seen are posts pointing out that you wantonly and childishly vote down every post , regardless of the content ; that isn’t “crying , dipshit …..
That’s plain fact …….
November 6th, 2009 at 1:28 amMCMetal says:
When have you ever written a post that was critical of that life-long moron and failure , stupid ass ?
I’ve never seen one….
Really, it’s more like “when have you ever written a post containing actual sentences and coherent thought? when have you ever written a comment beyond “hypocrite much?”
It’s just a whiny attention-seeking little turd.
November 6th, 2009 at 1:29 amyes, everyone is a hypocrite. Didn’t study greek philosophy much? Yet another post from you Not saying a single thing except: “pay attention to me, oh please!”
November 6th, 2009 at 1:29 amWhat? You’re to the right of Bush? Don’t think he killed enough Muslims?
November 6th, 2009 at 1:31 amHyper and londra
When you both heard of the attack.. YOU were the ones leaping for joy at the mention of hasan’s name, just like FOX.
no amount of projecting will change that -
The rational world was just trying to find out what happened.. If this was a religiously motivated incident.. then it is.. if it’s not – it’s not. Those investigating it have said so far that it isn’t… yet you both still cling to the hopes that it is… so it’s your motives that are in question.. not ours.
You need to explain why you are hoping that it is a terrorist incident? – explain why it would ruin all your fun if it turned out it was just a guy that went crazy..
November 6th, 2009 at 1:32 am#200 was actually a good post. You make an argument and then try to prove it by citing a source. Good job!
November 6th, 2009 at 1:32 amHyperinflation says:
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You made the claim, prove it or stfu!
November 6th, 2009 at 1:27 am
You just did it for me , you ignorant shitbag …..No one would respond in the idiotic manner that you just did if they weren’t just a typical Bush nut hugging dummy (which you are) ; they would willingly admit they have criticized Bush the Boy Blunder in post if they had…..
Congrats , you dopey fu(ker…..
November 6th, 2009 at 1:34 amHyperinflation says:
Keith says:
How many muslims has obama killed?
How many children have you raped patsy?
November 6th, 2009 at 1:36 amHyperinflation says:
Crying.
Says the whiny pussy patsy… Next?
November 6th, 2009 at 1:37 amHyperinflation says:
You made the claim, prove it or stfu!
Double standard much patsy? LOL! Yep, you’re a “con”servative hypocrite alright! ;)
November 6th, 2009 at 1:38 amHyperinflation says:
When you cry about getting voted down while voting down, you’re a HYPOCRITE!
Says the whiny hypocrite and pussy stalker. You got nothing. Next?
November 6th, 2009 at 1:39 amPeople on this site generally think we should not try military solutions for Iraq and Afghanistan. We often criticize Obama.
November 6th, 2009 at 1:39 amHyperinflation says:
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How many muslims has obama killed?
November 6th, 2009 at 1:35 am
That depends …….When was he deployed to Iraq and/or Afghanistan ?
November 6th, 2009 at 1:39 am@ 8. Zooey says: Why the smoke and mirrors routine? They couldn’t tell if he was dead or alive? Zombie? November 5th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
“The fog of war” arrives on the home front, so to speak.
There’s an old saying that gets passed around all the services defining life in the service and in certain circumstances, which might be paraphrased as; ‘life in (the Navy, Army, Marines, wartime, warzone, choose one or more); it’s hours, days, of boredom, interspersed with random moments of pure screaming panic’. “Screaming” is usually more bluntly put with a word which the moderators frown upon. In the mad screaming panic at Ft. Hood this afternoon, when Hasan got loaded into the ambulance and hauled off to a trauma unit, the on-scene commander probably thought he was damn near dead, and that ended up in the scuttlebutt, the rumor mill, as Hasan being dead; in the heat of the moment, reporters don’t get to do a lot of fact checking – they just report the rumors as they go by.
Same thing happened with the (female) first responder who shot him. She apparently was shot by him in the shoot-out and was reported dead, but isn’t.
The fog had to clear a bit before anyone knew exactly who had and had not come out alive.
Terrible day.
November 6th, 2009 at 1:39 amHyperinflation says:
Not by you! Please, show me where I have defended or “sympathized” with Bush?
Show us where you didn’t – bushbot zealot… ZZzzz…
November 6th, 2009 at 1:40 amObama couldn’t even kill 1 insane muslim in an american army base that was shooting people.
November 6th, 2009 at 1:40 amHyperinflation says:
Hypocrite much?
LOL! Project much patsy? When are you going to see a real “psychiatrist” so you don’t go around murdering people?
November 6th, 2009 at 1:41 amBut the fact he was killing people has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the fact he was muslim.
November 6th, 2009 at 1:41 amAaronQ of Maine says:
But the fact he was killing people has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the fact he was muslim.
You saying people use “religion” as an excuse to “murder” others? Like gay/women/minority/abortion hating teabaggers for instance?
November 6th, 2009 at 1:43 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Virtual Pebble -
which.. I might add.. is exactly what I said earlier =) but thanks very much for expanding on it so well..
I don’t see why people find that so hard to grasp.. during 9/11 there were all sorts of false reports going on..
in ‘102 minutes that changed America’ (great film by the way.. will bring you to tears.. or at least it did me)… but anyway.. in that movie there’s a spot where a guy says he heard the terrorists were going to crash planes into buildings every half hour..
there was another spectator in the movie that claimed one of the planes was a British Airways..
during chaotic events – there’s lots of false reports.. it’s normal.
November 6th, 2009 at 1:45 amThe question that should be getting asked is why the mental illness of this person wasn’t detected and why wasn’t he kicked out of the military?
Is the military really so desperate that “crazy” soldiers are allowed to serve? If so, this sort of thing will keep happening. And why aren’t gay people that “want” to serve allowed in? What a dysfunctional organization. It’s almost as messed up as the Ron Paul worshiping lunatics that “hyperhypocrite” works for.
November 6th, 2009 at 1:45 amLondra.
yes. you’re wrong.
November 6th, 2009 at 1:46 amfinally we have a shooting from a muslim
now we can invade iran.
god it is nice to be an american
we can commit war crimes every decade and the world sits buy and watchs
why. they dont want to upset us we buy too much of their stuff
this country needs to be put up for war crimes for the vietnam war and the iraq war
we are imperialists
and we wonder why we dont have universal health care
our money goes to wars for profits for the few
and most americans are dumb enough to think these wars are for their freedoms.
it is self destruction time in america
wall street rules even in obama admin.
same old politics new face
November 6th, 2009 at 1:47 amHard to believe this nut job , Hasan , was set off merely because of his imminent deployment to Iraq , which he was so adamantly against ; why wouldn’t he just refuse , quit , accept a dishonorable discharge/court martial ?
How does killing fellow soldiers make any sense ?
What a disturbed individual …..What a senseless and tragic event……
November 6th, 2009 at 1:47 am@ 172. Londra kulesi muhaf?z? says: I wonder if ol’ Hasan will be charged with a hate crime? After all his victims don’t seem to be part of a “protected class”, just American Soldiers. November 6th, 2009 at 1:09 am
Au contraire… Veterans are a protected class. I don’t recall that veteran status is specified in the “hate crimes” legislation, but they are a protected class in other legislation. In the situation at Ft. Hood, a fair percentage of the dead and wounded were very probably vets returning from a tour or going off on a second, third or greater deployment.
November 6th, 2009 at 1:49 amLondra,
November 6th, 2009 at 1:50 amWhen the Oklahoma City bombing happened, everyone said “Muslims”, too.
And can you stop the Turkish porn spam or whatever the heck that is?
NO Bleepn, thats not what I’m saying at all.
People who witness a religious group murdering people automatically think they are murdering BECAUSE of that religion. That kind of extreme simplistic explanation is used as propaganda by the ruling class to divide the masses. Don’t get fooled again!
November 6th, 2009 at 1:50 amLondra..
When the Soviets were fighting in Afghanistan.. did you also accurately predict that we were working WITH those same extremists – that we were paying and equipping them. They were our good buddies.. would you like me to show you pictures of the leaders of our CIA and FBI hanging out with them during the time – with big grins on their faces?
It would take me a few minutes – but I can always dig it up for ya. – I like to share.
November 6th, 2009 at 1:50 amLondra kulesi muhaf?z? says:
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November 6th, 2009 at 1:45 am
Say the same thing about Timothy McVeigh and Ted Kaczynski , you GOP ball mongering stooge ?
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Londra kulesi muhaf?z? says:
lux says:
Hyper and londra
When you both heard of the attack..
Speaking only for myself, just like ‘93 and 9-11 the 1st thing I said was MOOOSLIMS!! FUnny how I just profile like that. Am I wrong?
So did you think that with Ruby Ridge?
So did you think that with the Oklahoma City bombings?
So did you think that every time there was an health care clinic bombed?
So did you think that every time a Doctor was shot?
So did you think that every time a gay bar was bombed?
So did you think that when the olympics were bombed?
Because so far I’m profiling “Republicans” as terrorists based on all of those incidents.
Londra kulesi muhaf?z? says:
Must have something to do with the ‘72 Olympics, but you just go ahead and toe the democrat party line if it makes you feel better.
Says the Xtian-Xewish terrorist trying to make themselves feel better for being a d*uchbag.
November 6th, 2009 at 1:57 amLondra kulesi muhaf?z? says:
Precisely because he was a mooselim and we can’t be profiling! We have “Affirmative Action” goals to achieve ya know.
Yawn… A right wing terrorist like you has no credibility.
Londra kulesi muhaf?z? says:
FDR (democrat party hero ya know) was smart during WW2, He rounded up the Japs and interned them for the duration because they were the enemy. Obama needs to do the same with the mooooselims.
So should we round up you GOP Teabaggers since you are the source of nearly every act of domestic terrorism from the last 20 years? LOL! What a d*uchebag.
November 6th, 2009 at 1:58 amLondra kulesi muhaf?z? says:
Obama needs to do the same with the mooooselims.
Conservative Xtians and Jews too since you’ve committed most acts of terrorism?
November 6th, 2009 at 1:59 amIf you’d like to see the horrible truth of our war in Afghanistan.. then Hyper and Londra.. you can always just speak to some of it’s victims.. here
that is the site that the a 9/11 truth group got this nice picture of the United States CIA Director and the Pakistani Intelligence director smiling and being all chummy with the ‘terrorists’ at a mujahidin training camp in 1987.
We are the source of these terrorists – it began with US.
November 6th, 2009 at 2:00 amLondra kulesi muhaf?z? says:
Obama needs to do the same with the mooooselims.
Hitler said the gypsies and jews needed to be rounded up. Nazi much you piece of sh1t?
November 6th, 2009 at 2:01 amjon stewart did the most hilarious impression of glenn back. I was dying!
November 6th, 2009 at 2:03 amlondra kulesi muhafýzý, why do you post turkish words referring to London on an American blog? Are you trying to be an esoteric jerk of a d*uchbag – or is that just who you are?
November 6th, 2009 at 2:04 amAnd let me add… I know it might be hard to accept that it was our Government that was the root of all this..
but the truth is hard to take. We’re not the saviour’s of the oppressed… we’re the oppressors.
sad but true.
November 6th, 2009 at 2:04 amLondra kulesi muhaf?z? says:
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Since when does “Affirmative Action” usurp a diagnosis of a mental illness , you pathetic retard ?
BTW
Abraham Lincoln suspended civil law in certain territories as well as Habeus Corpus , and had Democrats arrested under military authority because he felt that the State Courts in the north west would not convict war protesters during the Civil War ; there’s the garbage GOP’s hero for you.
That’s much better behavior , wan’t it , tool ?
November 6th, 2009 at 2:05 am*Wasn’t*
November 6th, 2009 at 2:05 amMCMetal says:
Since when does “Affirmative Action” usurp a diagnosis of a mental illness , you pathetic retard ?
In the “mind” of a bigot who’s trying to justify their racial/religious bigotry as for why there shouldn’t be “civil rights”. This is just another fascist clueless d*uche.
November 6th, 2009 at 2:06 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
I think our trolls here are a pretty good illustration of what kind of hate and suspicion Hasan was dealing with.
I’ve dealt with it most of my life, being married to a muslim.
You trolls have all pulled down your pants so we can see your hate and ignorance. . . . We’ve seen it before.
November 6th, 2009 at 2:09 amIt’s not very nice to look at.
Please pull your pants back up.
Why is this Christian GOP/Cancervative moron using a Turkish moniker ?
What a d0uchebag…..
November 6th, 2009 at 2:10 amLondra kulesi muhaf?z? says:
I’m just suspicious at the speed with which it was done, what were they hiding?
Humanity? Not surprising you wouldn’t know that that is – you little pathetic fascist pussy.
November 6th, 2009 at 2:13 amThey executed McVeigh too soon for you, troll?
November 6th, 2009 at 2:13 amSix years after the bombing?
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Maybe “they” were hiding cherry-picked intelligence ; course , that didn’t lead them to illegally and stupidly invade a sovereign nation for no reason …..That type of behavior is reserved for complete morons
November 6th, 2009 at 2:14 amokie dokie says:
They executed McVeigh too soon for you, troll?
Six years after the bombing?
Third world morons like this hack don’t understand “democracy” or “due process” or “civil liberties”. For them it’s all one big fetish kill fest after another – while “whining” about one kind of killing being “great” and another being “bad”. This sort of twisted lunatic is who guns down innocent people. This one should be in mental institution!
November 6th, 2009 at 2:15 amin case you all won’t actually click that link above..
I’ll quote:
Graham Fuller, the former Deputy Director of the CIA’s National Council on Intelligence, alluded to the strategy in 1999. ‘The policy of guiding the evolution of Islam and of helping them against our adversaries worked marvelously well in Afghanistan against the Red Army. The same doctrines can still be used to destabilize what remains of Russian power, and especially to counter the Chinese influence in Central Asia.’
Throughout the 1990s, US intelligence sponsorship of Islamist extremist networks was linked to destabilizing Russian and Chinese influence in Eastern Europe, the Balkans, Central Asia, the Caucasus and North Africa – which contain the world’s largest energy reserves after the Middle East.
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to me.. I think the only thing that protects us to some small degree from the lies of our government.. and the immense corruption — is this little thing called the internet. It’s not as easy to keep the lie going anymore..
The corrupt groups still have one thing going for them though… most people will ignore the truth.. they simply can’t accept it – and pretend it doesn’t exist..
November 6th, 2009 at 2:16 amMCMetal says:
Maybe “they” were hiding cherry-picked intelligence ; course , that didn’t lead them to illegally and stupidly invade a sovereign nation for no reason …..That type of behavior is reserved for complete morons
Or maybe they were trying to figure out how high up the GOP leadership the order came from? Right our little “friend” who wanted him killed? Come on loserdon, tell us what “you” know?
November 6th, 2009 at 2:17 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
braveheart08 says:
Hasan’s cousin said he is good american, lol, what good american shoots up a army post, hang him high for everyone to see
One that is mentally ill and has a breakdown? You know. Like you “teabaggers” who bomb health clinics, kill doctors, minorities and gay people? Just look in the mirror and you’ll answer your own question “patsy”.
November 6th, 2009 at 2:19 ambraveheart08 says:
hang him high for everyone to see
I can see you share the killer’s “civilized” response to stress. You right wing loons are all alike. Just a bunch of blood thirsty murderers.. ZZzzz..
November 6th, 2009 at 2:20 ambraveheart08 says:
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November 6th, 2009 at 2:17 am
Wow , that’s just terrific ; you must have mulled over your brilliant post for hours before hitting Submit Comment , didn’t ya’ ?
November 6th, 2009 at 2:21 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
That’s why we’re here, lux@2:16am.
November 6th, 2009 at 2:24 ambraveheart08 says:
I take care of my mental health before it comes to that that makes good person thank you very much
Evidence to the contrary has already been submitted.
braveheart08 says:
, I have no sympathy towards hasan
That’s why you’re a natural born terrorist/lunatic. I have sympathy to all human beings, especially those who are lunatics (like you). Get some help you crazy freak!
And tell me, did the crazy soldiers that killed their wives then themselves elicit the “same” response from you? Or is it just your teabagging religious extremism that’s caused you to be a complete bigoted d*uchebag?
November 6th, 2009 at 2:25 ambraveheart08 says:
I take care of my mental health before it comes to that that makes good person thank you very much
WTF did that even say as a sentence?
You shouldn’t post when your drunk and high – or are you this retarded and incoherent every day? LOL!
November 6th, 2009 at 2:27 amJust cause your treated bad by some people gives you no excuse to shoot people
November 6th, 2009 at 2:28 amIf you want to know my mental health I don’t see anybody, look how crazy they are, they go on shooting rampages
November 6th, 2009 at 2:30 ambraveheart08 says:
Just cause your treated bad by some people gives you no excuse to shoot people
So then you supported the prosecution of US soldiers who shot Iraq civilians because they were “treated badly”?
You want to kill this guy, and how did he treat “you” badly again?
November 6th, 2009 at 2:30 ambraveheart08 says:
If you want to know my mental health I don’t see anybody, look how crazy they are, they go on shooting rampages
Again with the retarded ramblings that make no sense… Are you retarded, drunk, high or all of the above.
So far it’s “you” that’s sounding crazy. Go get help you lunatic!
November 6th, 2009 at 2:31 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
So it’s already come out that the commanders knew this guy was a little bonko, and instead of dealing with it they were going to send him to Iraq?
The commanders are responsible for this murder if they knew this guy was nuts.
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braveheart08 says:
now you making shit up
Well still no grammar, but at least your lie was coherent… Zzzzz…
November 6th, 2009 at 2:33 ambraveheart08 says:
anybody can say that and make fun of me, your drunk high or retarded come up with something intelligent
You first? Then it won’t be so easy to make fun of your “retarded” posts.. Zzzz…
November 6th, 2009 at 2:34 ambraveheart08 says:
anybody can say that and make fun of me, your drunk high or retarded come up with something intelligent
Determining facts, especially simple facts, is a sign of intelligence.
Your posts. Not so much…
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braveheart08 says:
The guy had it good at Walter Reed, he was near his home and family and friends, then he started acting up what else do you expect from the army?
Section 8 discharge – what it’s there for? Doh…
As for your posts, they’re exactly what I expect from a barely literate blood thirsty teabagger. Stupidity!
November 6th, 2009 at 2:36 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
braveheart08 says:
If you want to know my mental health I don’t see anybody, look how crazy they are, they go on shooting rampages
braveheart08… I thought it was because he was a muslim?
you need to pick your talking point and stay on message.. can’t have it both ways.
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Londra.. and crazy fanatic Christians kill their entire families to save their innocent souls from damnation.
and keep in mind… I am a Christian! I’m simply saying.. people go crazy and kill people… all people – atheist, christian and muslim alike – to take any one of them as an example and say ‘look what these people are like’.. well we have a name for that – IT’S BIGOTRY.. it’s passing judgement on a whole group for the actions of one.
So I ask you AGAIN – WHAT IS YOUR POINT?!
November 6th, 2009 at 2:43 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
braveheart08
With your terrible use of the language I can only HOPE english is your SECOND language.. if not.. then yes, you are mentally deficient – in other words – dumb.
If on the other hand.. you ARE a foreigner… then I’d really be interested in knowing of what descent.. because it puzzles me based on your arguments
November 6th, 2009 at 2:48 amCulture, religion, and disorder thinking are three separate cans of beans, troll. In Almaleki’s case, all three were mixed together.
November 6th, 2009 at 2:52 amThe real poison was his egocentric thinking.
A good example of that is . . . you.
Londra kulesi muhaf?z? says:
So now we are talking about Faleh Hassan Almaleki again? F’ng koran following bas tard runs his daughter Noor Faleh Almaleki down with his Jeep and you approve.
I have no idea who or what you’re talking about you crazy lunatic. Religious people do this sh!t all of the time. Jewish women are routinely beaten in Jerusalem for not having their heads covered, that’s what you freaks do.
Londra kulesi muhaf?z? says:
She was too “westernized”, but he uses an American built SUV instead of a camel, but it’s fine with you ’cause it’s his “culture.
So far I’m not seeing how you – another lunatic – is any different.
November 6th, 2009 at 3:06 amgood book end to this thread okie
on that note.. time for me to watch the Daily Show =)
November 6th, 2009 at 3:06 ambraveheart08 says:
Hasan was throwing a pity party for the life he was living and so do you just the bleepin facts
That’s called “projection”. It’s what you “crazies” do to justify your blood thirst and lunatic ideas.
November 6th, 2009 at 3:07 amLondra kulesi muhaf?z? says:
So now we are talking about Faleh Hassan Almaleki again? F’ng koran following bas tard runs his daughter Noor Faleh Almaleki down with his Jeep and you approve.
And a f’ing bible following bas tard opened fire on a “liberal” church a few months back. One of “many” cases where you right wing lunatics attack “liberals” like this poor girl.
Thanks for “proving” why you “conservatives” are a threat to society!
November 6th, 2009 at 3:11 ambraveheart08 says:
Im not ignorant and Im not in english class either, if you think my posts are ignorant you can’t stand the truth and you want to throw you pity on me
Yes you are ignorant, and your posts are stupid. They aren’t “truth”, they’re the whining p*ssy comments of a d*uchebag that believes “killing” people is A-OK. You’re no different than Hasan.
November 6th, 2009 at 3:11 amYou right wing d*uchebags still fail to recognize that trying to “kill” the “killer” doesn’t make you different from him, it makes you the “same” as him.
This guy was “sick” and should be treated accordingly.
If the Army had followed “regulations” and done so, these deaths would never have happened and you d*uchebag p*ssy conservatards would have to whine about something else. Zzz.
November 6th, 2009 at 3:14 amGood point, just the bleepn facts.
November 6th, 2009 at 3:37 amI read last week that the suicide rate in our deployed troops was higher than in the national civilian population here.
Something’s not right.
But then, war seldom ever is.
braveheart
You NEED an English class and you are DEFINITLY IGNORANT.
November 6th, 2009 at 4:55 amAnd who among us doesn’t enjoy a little Turkish porn in the morning?
November 6th, 2009 at 6:02 amMARIE AND MISSMOLLY:
You two are wofully misinformed like many people about guns and gun control on and off military bases. First off personal guns are typically not allowed on base. This major snuck his in to do his dirty deed. Second unless your an MP or have a reason to carry a gun on base (ie training) you would be stopped and questioned. third , the shooter knew he would get no resistance since he was aware of rules one and two. Read for your self and be informed dont be a mindless sheep that follows the herd to slaughter. If you notice the most media doesnt advertise much when legal guns stop crime only when mostly illegal guns are used to slaughter unprotected victims. The government cant legislate crime away. We have the death penalty in many states and still people kill people (wow some deterent huh).
Virgina tech case: Do you think that student shooter guy would open fire if he thought there were other students/teachers with concealed carry permits and guns on them?? Who would shoot back!!! I think not!!!!
http://www.newsday.com/news/nation/army-bases-have-tight-regulations-on-firearms-1.1569872
http://www.ocregister.com/opinion/school-shooter-students-1896071-one-percent
November 6th, 2009 at 7:17 amNothing like a little turkish porn to lighten up such horrible news.
November 6th, 2009 at 7:27 amTo the ass clown that is doing this: you are so way out of bounds for spamming an event of this awful magnitude.
It’s not cute, it’s not appreciated, and it is definitely in very very bad taste.
Your being flagged.
welp. it’s morning again on the west coast -morning folks
wow…. that Jon Stewart’s Glenn Beck was freakin incredible.. anyone who missed that — gotta catch it… I don’t recall a full segment of the daily show that I actually watched TWICE before..
hmm.. kinda inappropriate in this thread I guess.. but we’ve gone all over the place from the deficit to swedish porn..
November 6th, 2009 at 8:36 amSo, he made a bargain that went bad. Happens. I don’t notice him repudiating what, 12 years of higher education at US expense, and in what exact way do all those deaths and woundings help his cause? Ego-stupid here…
God or Allah pity all the decent American Muslims who are gonna suffer for this, even though it is no way their fault…
November 6th, 2009 at 8:38 americcrazer
You think not. THAT is certain. You dont think. The Virginia Tech shooter was mentally disturbed. I doubt if he would have cared if they had howitzers ready to take out whole buildings. MANY mass shooters do it as a form of suicide. EXPECTING to go down in a blaze of bullets. Dont let at little thing like LOGIC and having some dim idea what you are talking about get in the way of the talking points you have been brainwashed with
November 6th, 2009 at 8:41 amEricrazar: To say you have your head up your ass is an understatement. Military bases have weapons galore except they are strictly controlled. I was a M.P. and believe me the last thing you would want is military personnel running around armed (ON BASE). In a combat environment a completely different story. A$$clowns like yourself detract from the discussion.
November 6th, 2009 at 8:41 amI presume the weapon used was a private weapon. It will be interesting to see if it was an AK-47 and if it was recently purchased from the same internet site that the shooter from Virginia Tech and Wisconsin used.
November 6th, 2009 at 8:49 amWell, Folks, Faux is already gearing up to blame the Left for yesterday’s shootings. Several times this morning the idiots on ‘Nazis and Friends’ were claiming “political correctness” is the reason why the shooter was never arrested or detained earlier.
Here it comes folks….it’s the Left’s fault, which will in turn be Obama’s fault.
November 6th, 2009 at 8:51 am.D. says:
What do you expect from a troll? Their leaders suck. Bohner recited the Declaration of Independence instead of the Constitution. One other bozo screwed up the the Pledge of Allegence. These guys are worthy of Webster. Under the defintion of : Bone Head Leaders- Republicans from the year of 1994-present.
This was after his idiotic comment about the liberals. repugs are fakeass people. In all aspects of their lives.
November 6th, 2009 at 8:56 amI still do think a couple things seem suspicious.. but I’m probably reading into it..
anyway… seems he was headed to Afghanistan – not Iraq..
now they point out – it doesn’t seem right that he was ‘harassed’ by his fellow officers.. because he was a Major – which is a valid point.. if nothing else – chain of command is respected..
this is what I mean.. that’s just one of the things that’s somewhat peculiar – there’s also the internet ‘warning flags’ that weren’t heeded..
I don’t like to start thinking conspiracy.. I’d rather just think it is what it is..
November 6th, 2009 at 9:15 amI just heard that Hasan was given lots of sh*t by his military peers for being a Muslim. Enough to make him snap? Perhaps not but:
1-Bullying can drive one to do crazy things.
2-No doubt hearing all of the horror stories as a psychiatrist from fellow soldiers about the deaths of their comrads to the deaths of innocent Iraqi men, women and children drove Hasan over the top.
3-Being shipped to a war he so detested was the final straw.
Conclusion: To all the righties out there…perhaps this was God’s way of punishing our military for all of the atrocities we have committed in Iraq, in his name??
November 6th, 2009 at 9:27 amahah! they’re saying exactly what I proposed in the beginning!
He listened to people’s horror stories from the war.. and as a muslim he had difficulty with the idea of going to Afghanistan and killing Afghan people.. loyalty issues – and as his date for deployment came closer, he became increasingly tense about it -
I imagine his statements on the internet that were considered ‘warning flags’ are more like instinctual statements defending the actions of extremists – because insults to these extremists he felt were insults to him.
In a sense – I could see it as a big conflict of interest.. the same as being Japanese in the US army and bombing Hiroshima… anyone should be able to see that this type of think could greatly affect a person.. and leading up to the deployment.. it would soon be all you could think about.
as always, it’s absolutely no excuse.. but I get it.
November 6th, 2009 at 9:27 amA few trolls here are awfully quick to suggest this shooter was a terrorist. It seems they are ignoring some facts, including the fact that he was bullied because of his Muslim name and faith and that he was going to be deployed to Afghanistan. He was worried about the kinds of stresses he saw in his patients who had come back from the Middle East. He had already retained an attorney to get out of the Army early. Without a wife and family as support (his parents were both dead), it seems to me he was under an incredible amount of stress. He seems more like a guy who cracked under pressure, not a terrorist, and should be prosecuted as a criminal.
November 6th, 2009 at 9:28 amWhen watching the rethugs little gathering on the Capital steps this morning on CSPAN and seeing Bachmann in the background clapping, smiling and laughing it, she reminded me of those phony, suck ass, suck ups you see at your place of employment during a work Christmas party…. PUKE!
November 6th, 2009 at 9:30 amPennsylvanianne – well, there is this one problem though … by one eye witness account (oddly enough who spoke anonymously?) he yelled ‘Allah Akbar’ before firing..
see what I mean though about suspicious things — why is it that this eye witness of the shooting spoke in anonymity.. is that because they are officers?.. I recall reading of several statements in the papers from officers that they couldn’t give their name..
November 6th, 2009 at 9:36 amDid this guy vote for Obama or not? That makes all the difference in the world!
November 6th, 2009 at 10:13 am@ 172. Londra kulesi muhaf?z? says: I wonder if ol’ Hasan will be charged with a hate crime? After all his victims don’t seem to be part of a “protected class”, just American Soldiers. November 6th, 2009 at 1:09 am
@ 224. Virtual Pebble says: @ 172. Londra kulesi muhaf?z? says: I wonder … Au contraire… Veterans are a protected class. I don’t recall that veteran status is specified in the “hate crimes” legislation, but they are a protected class in other legislation. In the situation at Ft. Hood, a fair percentage of the dead and wounded were very probably vets returning from a tour or going off on a second, third or greater deployment. November 6th, 2009 at 1:49 am
Londra, just one more bit of information for your benefit, and that of any other trolls who might be on the verge of hysterics about ‘hate crimes’, etc.
Assuming that Hasan is the shooter and he survives and is charged, he will NOT be charged under any hate crimes legislation; he’ll be charged and court-martialed under the UCMJ first. He’s active duty military and most of the people he attacked and killed were active duty military. He will probably be eligible for the death penalty.
He may go to trial in federal court for the two(?) civilians who were among his victims, but that would probably happen after the court-martial.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:25 amSlappyBeggerino
give it up slappy. No matter how much you beg there is no pity for you here. You are just stupid and pathetic and your posts will go right to the sewer where they belong and no one will look at them. No pity. Stop begging and get some self respect for Gods sake
November 6th, 2009 at 10:30 amSlappyBastinado says:
Did this guy vote for Obama or not? That makes all the difference in the world!
What if he voted for that TRAITOR Bush? That would make all the difference in the world, too!!
Especially since Bush’s Saudi buddies were the FINANCIERS of Al Queda and the 9/11 attack.
Yeah, did he vote for that TRAITOR Bush or NOT???
November 6th, 2009 at 10:42 ammalik nadal hasan says:
Of course I voted obama, he’s a muslim just like me.
Yes, Mr. Bush, you TRAITOR.
He’s a TRAITOR just like YOU….
November 6th, 2009 at 10:43 ammalik nadal hasan says:
Do not worry friends, I am alive and safe. Obama will get me out of this. I was just doing allah a favor by disposing of those war supporting infidels.
Yes, Mr. Bush, you TRAITOROUS little coxucker PUNK…
Say hello to your BUSINESS PARTNERS, the Bin Ladens, and the OTHER of the FINANCIERS of Al Queda.
You TREASONOUS little PUNK..
November 6th, 2009 at 10:46 amlux says:
Hyper and londra
When you both heard of the attack.. YOU were the ones leaping for joy at the mention of hasan’s name, just like FOX.
Wrong, Wrong, Wrong, as usual, Fox was the LAST network to mention the shooters name. CNN put it out long before, while FOX waited for confirmation from the miliary
November 6th, 2009 at 11:14 amMalikMORON
You are an ignorant pile of dogshit. Just kill yourself. Your miserable life will never get better. You will always be the stupidest person in every room. You are ignorant and disgusting and decent human beings shun you so just get it over with and go kill yourself
November 6th, 2009 at 11:15 amEugeneDebs:
Did you read the earlier links are is you head still in the sand?????
http://www.ocregister.com/opinion/school-shooter-students-1896071-one-percent
What would you think would have continued to happen if this resturant owner and principal didnt act??? Wouldnt you say these kids below were mentally disturbed like the VA Tech case? yea? But notice they did drop the weapon!! Right?
My point is even most mentally disturbed people know when to give up.
Edinboro, Pa. A 14-year-old middle school student opened fire at a school graduation dance being held at a local restaurant. The shooter killed one teacher and wounded two students and another teacher. The armed teenager was apprehended by the restaurant owner, who grabbed his own shotgun from his office and went after the shooter. Staring into the owner’s shotgun, the teen dropped his gun and surrendered.
Pearl, Miss. A 16-year-old sophomore entered Pearl High with a hunting rifle under his overcoat. He opened fire, killing two students and wounding seven. The assistant principal, Joel Myrick, ran to his truck and retrieved the .45 automatic he kept there. Running back, he spotted the shooter in the parking lot. Ordering the teen to stop, the vice principal put his gun to the shooter’s neck and held him until police arrived.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:22 americ
Are you a MORON. Did the columbine kids drop their guns or did they DIE? You are stupid dude. The kid was crazy. You cannot say he what he would have done. Arming a school is INSANE. The drugs and hormones at a college. Just how stupid ARE you anyway? Do you want those kind of shootings every Thursday all across the country? Pretty much everyone was armed during the wild west days. Was it less violent? You are a moron. More guns in inappropriate place is a prescription for disaster not an answer to any problems if you cant see that you are too stupid to be having an adult conversation
November 6th, 2009 at 11:27 amBy the eric MORON opinion pieces do are NOT evidence the guys OPINION is worth a plug nickel and where is your evidence these kids were mentally disturbed rather than enraged or upset? The kid at V Tech had ACTUAL mental problems he wasnt hotheaded
November 6th, 2009 at 11:29 amRemember George W. Bush????:
“Bin Laden, DEAD or ALIVE”—September 2001
“I don’t know where he is. He’s not important”
(IRAQ IS, suckas!!!)—March 2002
So, we took away resources from the war on Al Queda to invade OIL-RICH Iraq.
And ended up LOSING soldiers, TREASURE and WORLD STATUS in TWO FAILED WARS.
What a TREASONOUS little COXUCKER punk is Bush.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:34 amTREASURE that would have paid for National Health Care for YEARS.
Instead, it went into the coffers of the Military Industrial Complex, never to be seen again…
November 6th, 2009 at 11:37 amRab:
What you say about guns on base:
Ericrazar: To say you have your head up your ass is an understatement. Military bases have weapons galore except they are strictly controlled. I was a M.P. and believe me the last thing you would want is military personnel running around armed (ON BASE). In a combat environment a completely different story. A$$clowns like yourself detract from the discussion.
What I said about guns on base:
MARIE AND MISSMOLLY:
You two are wofully misinformed like many people about guns and gun control on and off military bases. First off personal guns are typically not allowed on base. This major snuck his in to do his dirty deed. Second unless your an MP or have a reason to carry a gun on base (ie training) you would be stopped and questioned. third , the shooter knew he would get no resistance since he was aware of rules one and two.
Now I didnt say that all the military on base should be armed. What I was pointing out to MARIE AND MISSMOLLY was they thought a lot of the people on the base were walking around with guns when in fact that they weren’t. That was why Hasan got as far as he did. Should bases use more armed MP’s? YES Should everyone on base walk around with a gun? probably not. Should bases at least have armed escort when large gatherings are held? you betcha!!! I do think now you will see more armed military police patrolling the bases because of this. I mean what good would an MP be without a sidearm. You would be just a rent a cop(ie security guard). Also if your in the military you better read the second amendment again. You forgot what your protecting.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:44 amIf Hasan initiated this slaughter in the name of Allah then rake him over the coals for his solitary act of fanatic terror. Don’t extend that rage into a witch hunt against all Muslims living in the U.S. and/or serving in the military. But when Hasan has his day in court, let him, as an individual, face the stiffest of consequences (which is not death because his punishment ends there– but rather a life spent in the hollows of a stark and tiny prison cell).
Chiefly, the focus should be on the victims, both dead and alive. There are families out there who have been ripped apart by this senseless act. Put aside the damn politics for the moment and recognize that the ripple effect of this shooting now directly traumatizes family and friends of the dead and wounded all over the nation. So many lives cut short when they have already given so much… It is they who need the empathy in lieu of all personal, political agendas.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:44 amEugeneDebs :
You still dont get it. Read the links before you judge.
Let the teachers and principals be armed if they want to at least. They are adults who are past the hormone stage.
Also that “opinion piece” is full of FACTS about how guns did save lives or would you rather deny fact too.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:56 amBush’s BEST BUDDIES are the Saudi FINANCIERS of Al Queda.
Bush Crime Family–Committing TREASON for OVER 70 YEARS…
November 6th, 2009 at 11:58 amEugeneDebs:
A hypothetical question for you:
Your in a college class and a mentally insane or disturbed/upset/or whatever student shoots up the class that your in.
Would you prefer at least that the professor had a concealed gun to protect himself and the class or would you prefer that no one in the class was there to protect you and the others and maybe live or die with being a sheep in that situation.
I love how you make the comparison that the kids were upset vs the VA tech guy was mentally disturbed insane. People would die in either case. So your reasoning is moot point.
Personally I dont care what diferrence the gunman’s state of mind is, be it child or adult. If they start shooting then it is better someone can shoot back to stop them.
November 6th, 2009 at 12:13 pmEugeneDebs:
Pretty much everyone was armed during the wild west days. Was it less violent?
Yes it was!!!!
But dont let the facts (read statistics below or do you think they are made up too) get in the way of your liberal sheephood delusions. You cant legislate crime away. The criminals (or disturbed upset mentally ill) will always get guns so at least give an honest law abiding person a fighting chance.
http://www.examiner.com/x-3253-Minneapolis-Gun-Rights-Examiner~y2009m2d17-Dispelling-the-myth-of-The-Wild-West
In his book, Frontier Violence: Another Look, author W. Eugene Hollon, provides us with these astonishing facts:
In Abilene, Ellsworth, Wichita, Dodge City, and Caldwell, for the years from 1870 to 1885, there were only 45 total homicides. This equates to a rate of approximately 1 murder per 100,000 residents per year.
In Abilene, supposedly one of the wildest of the cow towns, not a single person was killed in 1869 or 1870.
Zooming forward over a century to 2007, a quick look at Uniform Crime Report statistics shows us the following regarding the aforementioned gun control “paradise” cities of the east:
DC – 183 Murders (31 per 100,000 residents)
November 6th, 2009 at 12:30 pmNew York – 494 Murders (6 per 100,000 residents)
Baltimore – 281 Murders (45 per 100,000 residents)
Newark – 104 Murders (37 per 100,000 residents)
5 wtnesses claiming he screamed “allah akbar, god is great” before firing.
That’s what George H.W. Bush and Saleem Bin Laden were screaming TOGETHER on the morning of 9/11 in the Ritz Carlton at the meeting of the Carlyle Group!!!!
WOW! What a “coincidence”…
November 6th, 2009 at 1:36 pmPeople need to download this paper from John Lott jr of Yale University Law School.
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=272929
November 6th, 2009 at 2:06 pmYes, John Lott.
The one who FAKED being a woman named “Mary Rosh” in order to PRAISE the abovementioned paper.
John Lott, who, being “anti-abortion”, got his girlfriend, Morgan Pillsbury PREGNANT, then insisted she get an ABORTION.
And then screwed her MOTHER as well.
Just like TRAITOR Bush got HIS 15-year-old girlfriend an ABORTION.
PROPAGANDA and TREASON—
The SAME OLD Grand Hypocrisy Party!!!
November 6th, 2009 at 2:17 pmIf this POS lives he will be tried in a military court and hung.
November 6th, 2009 at 2:56 pmI am always amazed by those that join the military but don’t want or think they will ever be put in harms way. This killer got his entire higher education paid by the federal govt. (i.e, taxpayers) then when he was be deployed he cries the blues and finally starts shooting people. Besides, he would have been in the military green zone. Not in combat. The odds of him being hurt in either Iraq or Afghanistan were very remote. … give him a paid education and benefits, but no deployment? Idiot.
November 6th, 2009 at 4:42 pmAll you can say that Im ignorant, your the ignorant ones, you used the word ignorant in wrong context. Often Im preceived ignorant because you know Im right. Hasan didn’t qualify for Section eight because all he was making was political statements. He had it good at Walter Reed until he starting being a bad solider. If the milatary doesn’t hang him shoot him at firing squad. Even if you vote my comments down you know my point is correct or you wouldn’t vote them down.
November 6th, 2009 at 4:45 pmI’m always amazed how the biggest COWARDS, who never wore the uniform themselves, are the FIRST to call for WAR and BLOODSHED.
TRAITORS Bush and Cheney are in the forefront.
But it includes almost ALL of the RapePublic politicians, as well as the “talking heads” on Pox “news”.
November 6th, 2009 at 4:54 pmncbrickhome I guess you going to start shooting people up because your pissed off at the war?
November 6th, 2009 at 5:37 pmconcealed carry statistics
http://www.deseretnews.com/article/1,5143,525039067,00.html
November 6th, 2009 at 5:49 pmWe have to profile or get rid of muslims out of this country along with the people that defend them. If you are offended by this comment, well im offended that I have to live with you crazy infant like people.
November 6th, 2009 at 5:59 pmGod forbid if I say execute Hasan but it is allowed for a muslim to do what he did to other people in this country, thats all I hear from you sick people.
November 6th, 2009 at 6:16 pmNope, just point out that the Chickenhawks yell the LOUDEST for BLOOD, unless it is THEM or their CHILDREN who have to be the ones to FIGHT.
Bush, Cheney, and almost ALL of the RapePublics fit the mold.
The TREASON of the Bush Crime Family lives on and is supported byt their MORON followers like YOU.
REAL Americans KNOW this.
Not YOU, of course….
November 6th, 2009 at 9:44 pmAnd Pox “news” Chickenhawks like O’SexualPredator, Rush, Beck, and the rest of the unamerikkkan supporters of Bush TREASON.
Including the Bush family ties to the Bin Ladens and the Saudis who FINANCED Al Queda.
Bush TREASON lives on!!!!
November 6th, 2009 at 9:46 pmCHICKENHAWK Tom Tancredo bashes the VA system, then gets called out by a VETERAN how Tancredo was IN FAVOR of Vietnam,
then got a 1Y deferment for “depression”.
http://crooksandliars.com/john-amato/tom-tancredo-walks-site-ed-show-because
You unamerikkkan Chickenhawks support TRAITORS like Bush and Cheney.
May you BURN for ETERNITY along with the Bushes and Cheneys.
And TRAITOR Ronnie Reagan, already with his MASTER Satan.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
November 6th, 2009 at 9:53 pmSo, should we apply the same standard to Erik Prince and his “Christian” dominionist compatriots? If you’re not willing to apply the same standard, then you are an effing hypocrite. Sorry if that offends you.
November 7th, 2009 at 5:32 pmI hope that thing lives to see a military trial! Who better then our soldiers to prosecute a fanatic like him. Screamin “Allahu Akbar”/”Allah is the Greatest” same thing. Funny how terrorist in Iraq scream the same thing before they blow themselves up trying to KILL american soldiers. He was also wearing white during the shooting. Wich is what many extremist wear right before they commit suicide trying to kill American troops.
November 12th, 2009 at 7:00 pmDid you know the Iraqis just LOOOOVED it when President Obama was elected. They ran around singing “Allahu Akbar”. They also said that President Obama belonged to them. Now that could have been a english misinterpretation the Iraqi saying it only had a 2 or 3 PHDs and could speak 4 different languages.