Astroturf In Action: Right-Wing Billionaire David Koch Pays For 40 Buses To Haul In Protesters
Astroturf In Action: Right-Wing Billionaire David Koch Pays For 40 Buses To Haul In Protesters
Americans for Prosperity (AFP), the corporate front group founded in the 1980s by Koch Industries billionaire David Koch, worked closely with Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) to orchestrate the anti-health reform rally today. As ThinkProgress reported yesterday, AFP has been encouraging right-wing activists to board their buses — free of charge — to attend the rally. While AFP does not disclose all of its corporate donors, foundations controlled by David and Charles Koch provide millions in yearly funding, and David continues to chair the AFP foundation and preside over AFP’s annual convention.
ThinkProgress found at least a dozen AFP staffers standing at their designated bus drop off point near the Capitol, handing out signs, directions, talking points, petitions, and donuts to protesters. Many of the people who work at AFP are longtime Republican operatives, like Ben Marchi, the AFP Virginia director who previously worked for the National Republican Congressional Committee and for Rep. Tom Delay (R-TX). Victor Zapanta produced this video report of AFP staffers talking about their exploits at the rally today:
AFP STAFFERS: We have 25 buses just from Pennsylvania, New Jersey we probably have 5 or 6 from Maryland.
AFP STAFFERS: We have about 40 buses coming.
Watch it:
David Koch’s AFP has a long history of marshaling “grassroots” support for GOP objectives. In the early 1990s, AFP, then known as Citizens for a Sound Economy, worked secretly with then-Rep. Newt Gingrich (R-GA) to organize angry crowds following the Clintons as they touted their health reform bill. Industry money from health insurance, telecommunications, oil, and other companies has flowed freely to AFP over the years to help AFP promote an agenda of boosting the rich, stripping consumer safeguards, and maintaining corporate monopolies. Phillip Morris rented out AFP from the Koch family, contributing millions to the organization in exchange for AFP to build opposition to tobacco regulations.
AFP’s daily activities are managed by Tim Phillips, an infamous astroturf lobbyist who built a career using Christian front groups to wage stealth campaigns. For example, his work includes fighting under the radar to promote energy deregulation for Enron and helping Jack Abramoff clients continue forced abortion sweatshops in the Northern Mariana Islands.
Will the media report on the true driver of today’s rally? Or will they leave David Koch out of the equation, despite his hand-in-glove involvement.
LATTA: Some stakes took over 20 buses [...] You know, they're not rabble-rousers. KINGSTON: Who paid for them? LATTA: They all paid for themselves. You know, these people came down on their own.Watch it:
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Take a good look at the people in this Protest and you’ll see the weakest Americans. Just think this is an example of how low we’ve dropped as these folks listen to Representives mislead and lie. Each one of these people will use and benefit from the Obama/Biden Health Care Plan and as true Americans they will forget all this and some will deny they were ever in Washingtion DC. As for the Law Makers they will laugh if their plan works because they have full coverage and no pre conditions.
November 5th, 2009 at 4:35 pmAmericans for Prosperity
Isn’t that like human beings for oxygen
Everyone wants to be prosperous . .
But good for the RWers, they had a lovely “comped’ day in D.C. and they got to pray together; good for them!
November 5th, 2009 at 4:44 pmOT – One person apprehended at Fort Hood is reportedly a military officer? Domestic terrorists?
November 5th, 2009 at 4:46 pmHas this rally stopped to show respect for what is happening at Ft. Hood, Texas?
November 5th, 2009 at 4:47 pmThese people belong to the “Will vote against their own best interest in exchange for a bus trip and a donut Party”
What is the opposite of a Government Control?
Corporate control.
You think that corporations like Koch’s are going to care about YOUR health? Are they going to take care of you when YOU get cancer? Pay for YOUR medicines?
I think not.
What is wrong with an option? It is only a choice…and we will all benefit.
November 5th, 2009 at 4:47 pmSo let’s do some math.
40 buses x ( ) per bus = ?
We can use this as the first step towards actual crowd size for this “protest”.
November 5th, 2009 at 4:48 pmShayne says:
OT – One person apprehended at Fort Hood is reportedly a military officer? Domestic terrorists
PTSD?
November 5th, 2009 at 4:49 pmMichele Bachmann works for us. Why are we paying her our tax dollars to foment rebellion?
November 5th, 2009 at 4:49 pmThe only thing they respect is their money. They pay lip service to patriotism.
November 5th, 2009 at 4:50 pmI don’t know LibertyLover, it’s Texas and they just like playing with guns there.
November 5th, 2009 at 4:51 pmMR. SOROS,
Where are the buses. Do not let the right wing bat-sh*t crazy, tea baggers get away with this. Protest THEM at every turn. They aren’t worried about a government takeover, they are worried that progressives might upset their status-quo. They LOVE the status-quo. Its feels safe and ya don’t have to think.
Texasjuice
November 5th, 2009 at 4:52 pmbachmann works closely with koch?
November 5th, 2009 at 4:52 pmthe jokes just write themselves around here these days!
I wonder if one can tie attacks at Ft. Hood back to Glenn Beck.
November 5th, 2009 at 4:53 pmI bet he’s biting his nails right now.
Nice, a Billionaire who can afford any health care he wants is busing in morons who can’t afford health care to protest against being able to afford health care.
Yeah, these protesters sure are a smart bunch…
…protesting against their own well being, idiots.
November 5th, 2009 at 4:53 pmOT on Fort Hood;
I;m just waiting for the usual suspects to explain how, if only the all the soldiers at Fort Hood had weapons, this miss shooting would have been over in no time–you know, like they suggested about Virginia Tech?.
On the ‘Dick Army’ buses, I just looked up the price of a charter in NJ. For a whole day its about $850–$1,000.
November 5th, 2009 at 4:54 pmSo approx $36-40,000 for buses just handed to American parrots.
Purple State says:
So let’s do some math.
40 buses x ( ) per bus = ?
We can use this as the first step towards actual crowd size for this “protest”.
Assuming (ahem) that each bus holds 50 to 75 people per bus, that would be 2000 to 3000 people at the “rally” — sound about right?
November 5th, 2009 at 4:57 pmAre these people so stupid they don’t realize they are being used by a rich A-hole? Did they even ask WHO provides the buses? Don’t they realize they are the biggest chumps in the world? Do they even know about Fort Hood? My God, Are they inbred or what? My father said intelligence is a gift, Man was he right.
November 5th, 2009 at 4:57 pmSo let’s do some math.
40 buses x ( ) per bus = ?
We can use this as the first step towards actual crowd size for this “protest”.
40 x 47 per bus = 1,880
November 5th, 2009 at 4:57 pmFor example, his work includes fighting under the radar to promote energy deregulation for Enron and helping Jack Abramoff clients continue forced abortion sweatshops in the Northern Mariana Islands.
Tom DeLay helped with that one, too (Marianas Islands sweat/sex shops.) While he was Majority Whip, he promised one of the sweat shop owners that because he controlled which bills would be voted on in the House, the one that would have made the Marianas Islands subject to US Labor law “will never see the light of day.” It never did while the Republicans controlled things.
Perhaps this is one which the Democrats should be able to easily pass. Make the Republicans defend sex slaves and sweat shops.
November 5th, 2009 at 4:58 pmoops sorry purple, I missed your credit there
November 5th, 2009 at 4:58 pmI bet he’s biting his nails right now.
November 5th, 2009 at 4:59 pm—-
No I think he is more likely crying…
“a Billionaire who can afford any health care he wants is busing in morons who can’t afford health care to protest against being able to afford health care.”
apparently, the purchasing of these fools is cheap…a bus ride to d.c and a donut
November 5th, 2009 at 4:59 pmWell, at least MSM isn’t focused on the ‘Loon Parade’. In fact, MSM shouldn’t have spent any time on these jack asses at all. After all, remember the Protests during the Iraq War? MSM barely covered it. But a bunch of whack-jobs get A-list coverage. Sigh.
November 5th, 2009 at 5:00 pmWere the free bus rides a gift? Or do those people have to pay taxes on that “free” bus ride?
November 5th, 2009 at 5:00 pm5th Estate, I was just thinking of the exact same incident at Virginia Tech and how they said lives would have been saved if students had guns. If soldiers couldn’t stop the shooter before 12 were killed how would students?
November 5th, 2009 at 5:00 pmLibertyLover says:
75 a bus? NO way. 47 is typical for a standard charter.
November 5th, 2009 at 5:01 pmWhen it comes to people like David Koch, the MSM reporters see no weasels. They’re not paid to do anything other than report what is directly under their nose. They’re informed from the beginning of their employment that no investigations are necessary.
Please ignore the wizard behind the curtain.
November 5th, 2009 at 5:01 pmShayne, yup
November 5th, 2009 at 5:02 pmThe old coots that ended up at the rally probably didn’t even know where they were going. They were probably told they had a free bus ride to the bingo parlor or casino and they couldn’t wait to hop on.
All these retirees complain about fixed incomes and are worried about their Medicare fill up the gambling institutions and buy lottery tickets more than anybody every day.
November 5th, 2009 at 5:03 pmWaitaminnit — if George Soros paid for 40 buses to create a “crowd” for a protest, it would be all over the wingnut blogosphere, hurling his name like it was some kind of slur.
So I’m to understand it’s OK for the rabid right to have a billionaire, and it’s not OK for progressives to have one?
November 5th, 2009 at 5:06 pm5th Estate says:
LibertyLover says:
75 a bus? NO way. 47 is typical for a standard charter.
I figured 50 at about average, but I didn’t know for sure… when in doubt, I use a range of minimum/maximum…
But even at 50 people ( or 47) with 4 people across, that only leaves 12 rows of seats… seems like there have been more than that on the charters that I have been on…
November 5th, 2009 at 5:07 pmSo all it costs to give Faux a woody is a handful of buses and some donuts?
November 5th, 2009 at 5:09 pmWhy are these organizations tax exempt? Millions of dollars from Koch, Murdoch,and the corporate rapists goes right in the tills of these bums to work for the rich against the rest of us. These “tea baggers” are tools of these corportions. You wonder if they have the common sense to realize their ride today comes from companies that get tax break after tax break, know every tax loophole, have their money offshore, and take our jobs offshore. The patriotism of these corporate men, their famlilies, and anyone who supports them is to be questioned every second of every day. As for the employees of Kock industies–how do you sleep at night, knowing that you work for this scum.
November 5th, 2009 at 5:10 pmI dont recall robber barons ever being for freedom, but company stores, child labor, pollution, company housing, long work hours, deplorable working conditions etc
November 5th, 2009 at 5:10 pmokay, pay no attention to the FOrt Hood story, CBS, NBC, ABC FOX all just switched simultaneously from Fort Hood to the Yankees celebration. Amazing coordination!
November 5th, 2009 at 5:12 pm“I can hire one half of the working class to kill the other half.”
Jay Gould
November 5th, 2009 at 5:13 pmUS financier & railroad businessman (1836 – 1892)
Robber Baron
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Are the elections of 2009 precursors of the same kind of massive partisan upheaval in Congress that we experienced in 1994?
Well, I for one hope the Democratic sweep of the 2009 congressional elections will be repeated in 2010.
November 5th, 2009 at 5:14 pmTheir “astroturf” is bloodied the people they want to deny health care to. I pity the poor misinformed, uneducated people who obviously want something for nothing…why else board buses and you don;t have to pay for it…..how typical.
November 5th, 2009 at 5:16 pmHyperstupidity is displaying his genius for all to see.
November 5th, 2009 at 5:18 pmThe world according to Hyperinflation:
Americans having health insurance = What the Nazis did
November 5th, 2009 at 5:18 pmAccusing wealthy Jews of trying to destroy your country = Not what the Nazis did
10.Shayne says:
I don’t know LibertyLover, it’s Texas and they just like playing with guns there.
Why the persistent putting down of Texas? I recently moved back to Texas after growing up here and besides owning a BB gun as kid which alot of kids across the crountry have done, the only weapon I have ever fired was a M-16 rifle at basic training.
November 5th, 2009 at 5:18 pmHi Hyperinflation
November 5th, 2009 at 5:18 pmWanna chat?
Hyperinflation says:
Also, didn’t acorn bus thousands of people to voting booths? Hypocrite much?
Federal election. So-called “grassroots movement” protest. Not the same scenario.
November 5th, 2009 at 5:19 pmLibertyLover says: that only leaves 12 rows of seats… seems like there have been more than that on the charters that I have been on…
AH, I was a bit hasty. I just found that 60 is available, 47 is the most common ( I’d thought 55 was the max),
so the size of Dick Armey’s ‘dick army’ would be maximum 2400
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I bet well over half of the busees are on medicare/medicaid
November 5th, 2009 at 5:21 pmHi oddball freakshow…
November 5th, 2009 at 5:21 pmKoch, of yeh that guy that says subsidies are bad and in the same interview says they have profited greatly from it.
November 5th, 2009 at 5:23 pmIn memory of Noor Almaleki says: I’m stunned… Malik Hassan, a convert to the religion of peace.
Like General Boykin’s and George Bush’s religion of peace?
November 5th, 2009 at 5:23 pmWanna chat?
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November 5th, 2009 at 5:23 pmIs that a no? What scares you so?
The dewshbaggers are marching? I can smell the the stupid out here in the West…
November 5th, 2009 at 5:24 pm48 forget that all three of the main religions are Abrahamic. I think you could also include Mormons in that seeing as Smith took from the book of Abraham.
November 5th, 2009 at 5:25 pm—
Is that a no? What scares you so?
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Oh come now. No one can be that much of a pussy can they?
Well… at least he didn’t bring them to Washington on Private Corporate Jets.
These guys are fast learners.
November 5th, 2009 at 5:27 pmHow does it feel inside to be such a little puppy?
November 5th, 2009 at 5:28 pmHow many times does it have to be pointed out to you that your little fleeting votes are as insignificant as you are?
November 5th, 2009 at 5:30 pmWhat did they do? offer moonpies and HiC?
November 5th, 2009 at 5:30 pmAnd so is MSNBC. Your point, Olby Sucks?
November 5th, 2009 at 5:32 pmHyper Logic: When Hitler put people in labor camps that included free health care.
November 5th, 2009 at 5:32 pmHyperinflation says
November 5th, 2009 at 5:12 pm
“Are the elections of 2009 precursors of the same kind of massive partisan upheaval in Congress that we experienced in 1994? The historical data says yes, they are.”
– Not even close. What did the Republicans gain on Tuesday? A couple of gubernatorial contests where the Democrat was a weak candidate. In the meantime, the Democrats won both of the special election Congressional seats — stealing one from the GOP. You seem to be confusing “historical data” (which you don’t elaborate on) with your own delusions.
“Also, didn’t acorn bus thousands of people to voting booths? Hypocrite much?”
– Again, not the same thing. Busing people to the polls is something many organizations do on Election Day, which is a valuable service to those who otherwise have no transportation. And there is no litmus test as to who gets transported — nobody is asked who they intend to vote for. Furthermore, driving people to the polls isn’t done in secret, and nobody lies about it. You don’t see propagandists saying, “They all paid for themselves. These people came down on their own” when ACORN or anybody else provides busing service.
But it appears you’re running on empty and you’re down to your last chew toy. It wouldn’t be fair to take that away from you, so do blither on. Just pardon me if I ignore you.
November 5th, 2009 at 5:33 pmHow long before we find out this officer was a muslim?
You mean Abrahamic?
November 5th, 2009 at 5:34 pm5th Estate says:
LibertyLover says: that only leaves 12 rows of seats… seems like there have been more than that on the charters that I have been on…
AH, I was a bit hasty. I just found that 60 is available, 47 is the most common ( I’d thought 55 was the max),
so the size of Dick Armey’s ‘dick army’ would be maximum 2400
Depends on the bus, but for round numbers, I’d actually go with 40 (and I work with buses). I’d really like to know more about how they got anyone onboard at all. Did they advertise locally about where people should meet the buses? Did they simply pay everyone $20 to wave a sign? Did they just drive out to the trailer park and load up with people without jobs?
Virtually all the media refer vaguely to “thousands” and the only firm number I’ve found was “said to be 10,000″.
November 5th, 2009 at 5:34 pmOkay, so a ceiling of 2400? I’;m assuming not every one of the buses was full, so maybe 2200?
Okay then. Where can we go from here?
November 5th, 2009 at 5:35 pmSee my little pussy friend they disappear almost as fast as you cast them. Wouldn’t your energies be better spent by engaging people like me in dialogue so you can show how knowledgable about topics you are and how skilled you are at countering opposing arguments? I think you won’t and that you can’t. Am I right or am I right?
November 5th, 2009 at 5:35 pmHow long before we find out this officer was a muslim?
Why would that matter to you?
November 5th, 2009 at 5:36 pmPurple State says:
And so is MSNBC. Your point, Olby Sucks?
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Quick! Vote it down to make it go away!
Oh…you’d have to get nine friends to do that.
Anyways, Olby Sucks, how was the honeymoon in Vegas with Keith?
November 5th, 2009 at 5:36 pmAw, the poor little VDT’s feelings are hurt. Boo-hoo.
November 5th, 2009 at 5:39 pm/sarc
Dick Morris called, Olby Sucks. He wants his words back.
November 5th, 2009 at 5:41 pmI keep thinking about all the Right-wing nutbags (most prominently, Bill O’Reilley) that love to scream “George Soros is funding everything!”
November 5th, 2009 at 5:42 pm“Will the media report on the true driver of today’s rally? Or will they leave David Koch out of the equation, despite his hand-in-glove involvement.”
I know! I know! *hand in air…WAVING!*
NOT!
Are you kidding!?! ABC, CBS, NBC, CNN, NPR (Ha! No way for NPR!) won’t go near any such thing.
November 5th, 2009 at 5:42 pmHyperinflation:
November 5th, 2009 at 5:44 pmYou are an embarassment. I can crap all over you and you will take it. What does that say of you? I will be back shortly to continue to belittle your sorry ass. Any chance you could do me a solid and try and grow some nerve between now and then? Thanks.
Let’s be charitable and say that 6000 showed up. That would be 140 per bus, if you allow for 400 on the platform from the politically elite (It looked more like about 160 – 240.) That would require that about 1500 or more seniors ride standing for 4-7 hours on the trip from NC on 25 buses. It would also cause an ecological disaster as bus holding tanks are only good for about 16-24 gallons. Is I95 in VA browntop yet?
November 5th, 2009 at 5:44 pm12 dead and 31 injured. Yea, let’s make more muslims officers!
What a disgusting replica of a human being you are. I don’t wish you any ill other than that you never reproduce. I’d hate to imagine what kind of hate-filled children you might raise. To think that some small child might look up to you as a role model…
November 5th, 2009 at 5:44 pmWhat is this messenger crap? Tell us who is it that hired you to deliver the “message” and what is the point?
November 5th, 2009 at 5:45 pmHyper Logic: Will his name be akmed or hussein? I dont care I am just mad that this took the wacko parade off the front page!!
November 5th, 2009 at 5:45 pmHyper Stagnation
Ritalin Much?
November 5th, 2009 at 5:47 pmOlby Sucks, you need to call yourself a messenger first.
No citation? Uh-oh! You’re not a messenger anymore!
November 5th, 2009 at 5:47 pmHmmm…got my fuzzy math calculator here … the average charter bus has a capacity of 45-55 passengers. Let’s say each bus had 50 passengers. That makes 2000 Teabaggers. Early reports put the total number of Teabaggers around 3000-3500. So that means a single astroturf sugar daddy is responsible for more than 50% of the turnout?
Hell, I’ve seen bigger crowds at my local mall’s JC Penney clearance sales day. And they have at least two of those every month. Sorry Teabaggers — I’m not impressed.
Just saying . . .
November 5th, 2009 at 5:48 pmO/T: re: the Fort Hood, Texas shootings: it would seem that our endless brutal military occupations of Afghanistan and Iraq are stressing out American soldiers. It is time to end our stupid, costly, blooding hostile military occupations in the Middle East.
November 5th, 2009 at 5:49 pmYou couldn’t care less about the nine people that were murdered? Classy!
Dont pin your imagination on me. Your probably happy, like Arbusto, that OBL is still alive.
November 5th, 2009 at 5:50 pmYou said “I don’t care.” Pretty much sums it up, right?
See, what you ignored was the words ‘Hyper Logic’ at the beginning of the post, you know like in Hyperinflation
November 5th, 2009 at 5:54 pmPretty much sums it up, right?
Yes,it sums up HYPER [inflation] logic
November 5th, 2009 at 5:55 pmDefend terrorists much?
When did I do that? And, please, explain your reasoning in full. I would really like to hear this.
November 5th, 2009 at 5:56 pmAnd the sad fact is that you are using a tragedy to make some inane claims to fit your bizarro world view
November 5th, 2009 at 5:57 pmHyper[inflation Logic:Will his name be akmed or hussein? I dont care I am just mad that this took the wacko parade off the front page!!
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Classy!
Yes, you are classy Hypoflatulation
November 5th, 2009 at 5:58 pmI hope none of these freeloaders are on unemployment. I don’t begrudge anyone a free ride on a bus provided by thse corporations that are feeding them free donuts while sending their jobs overseas. But I do mind people taking a free ride on my taxes, especially while they assist the corporations in rising my insurance costs. Ignorance is no excuse!
November 5th, 2009 at 5:59 pmDon’t ki yourselves, these rightys ore only concerned with keeping their BUSH TAX CUTS.
November 5th, 2009 at 6:00 pmBut lets continue with the Hypoflatulation stick figure penciling people into generalized groups.
Carrie Prejean did a sex tape with a guy and so that means hippoflatulation will too.
November 5th, 2009 at 6:00 pmTime to calm down, Olby Sucks.
I don’t care about this guy’s name either. I just care about the fact that he and a partner killed innocents. I don’t care who he is, what his religion or affiliation is. I don’t care if he was black, white, Muslim, Christian, or ANYTHING.
I’m just outraged. And I actually share that outrage with you, Olby Sucks.
Be mad at the murderers, not at the people talking about the murder.
November 5th, 2009 at 6:01 pmSeriously, krazee? Only 3500?
I’ll bet the University of I Can’t Remember Which University It Is begs to differ.
November 5th, 2009 at 6:03 pmSoooo…they have to go round people up and bus them in to even get a few thousand for this cockamamie event? Cool!
November 5th, 2009 at 6:04 pmHyperinflation! A racist bigot!
November 5th, 2009 at 6:05 pmThis Fort Hood tragedy reminds me of the muslim soldier that rolled the grenade under the tent wall while officers were dining.
Happy much?
November 5th, 2009 at 6:06 pmAnd that proves what, exactly, Hyperflation?
November 5th, 2009 at 6:06 pmThese people are not “people who love freedom” as Michelle Bachmann would as you to believe; they are ruining out nation. They support the abuses of the Bush administration that would have brought our country to the brink of a dictatorship. Patriots non-and-all are they.
November 5th, 2009 at 6:07 pmHyper – what, Christians never kill anybody? I don’t know if this guy was Muslim or not, and I don’t care. One person’s actions don’t define the group.
November 5th, 2009 at 6:08 pmSoooo…they have to go round people up and bus them in to even get a few thousand for this cockamamie event?
Hyperflatulation got kicked off before they got there.
November 5th, 2009 at 6:08 pmThis was terrorist attack on our soldiers in our country!
I thought you were watching Fox News. Didn’t you hear them say that Sen Hutchinson was told that this soldier was upset about being deployed back to Iraq? Please explain how that would make this a “terrorist attack”. Thank you.
November 5th, 2009 at 6:09 pmXisithrus – is that what has hm in such a tizzy? The poor baby.
November 5th, 2009 at 6:09 pmHyperinflation says:
sock/ps, attack messenger much?
Mulch much much?
November 5th, 2009 at 6:10 pm*him*
November 5th, 2009 at 6:10 pmDo you ever back up anything you say with facts, Hyperinflation? Or do you mistake your ideological beliefs for facts?
November 5th, 2009 at 6:10 pmThis was terrorist attack on our soldiers in our country!
Now your calling the soldiers terrorists Hypoflatulation?
November 5th, 2009 at 6:11 pmYes, tlott.
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I wonder if he’s getting his 72 virgins? LOL!
Well, were just IM’ing each other if you lost your virginity in the Prejean-esque film you made.
November 5th, 2009 at 6:12 pmHyperinflation says:
The Republican Party’s new motto: “We think the deaths of American soldiers are hilarious!”
November 5th, 2009 at 6:14 pmIf hypoflatulation was the virgin to be deflowered it would certainly be hell
November 5th, 2009 at 6:14 pmOlby Sucks, question:
Do you know he’s a Muslim?
Do you know if his partner was a Muslim?
Do you know ANYTHING?
November 5th, 2009 at 6:15 pmWhere was he born Hyperflatulation?
November 5th, 2009 at 6:24 pmHyperinflation says: crickets from the cowards….
Your grasping at straws – as always.
November 5th, 2009 at 6:25 pmcrickets from the cowards….
Since you have refused to directly answer my questions in full, I would say you should count yourself among the cowards.
OTOH, maybe they’re ignoring you because you’re such an a-hole.
November 5th, 2009 at 6:26 pmThe spokesman, Lt. Col.Nathan Banks, said two shooters were apparently involved. There is no word yet on who they were, nor on identities of the dead, The Associated Press reported.
Banks says the second incident took place at a theater on the sprawling base.
He says it is too soon to tell whether there is any link to battle stress or repeated deployments. The Army is suffering a record high suicide rate and other signs of stress from fighting two wars.
Record high suicide rates. Thanks Dubbeh and Dickey
November 5th, 2009 at 6:30 pmI think this article can explain why the troll refuses to acknowledge facts.
http://www.alternet.org/media/143731/many_still_believe_that_saddam_hussein_was_behind_9_11%2C_and_now_we_have_some_idea_why?page=entire
November 5th, 2009 at 6:32 pmDoesn’t matter where he was born. He WAS a muslim terrorist.
You have no proof of anything at this time and are engaging in speculation. He committed murder but dont yet know why.
November 5th, 2009 at 6:32 pmLt Gen. “Cone did not speculate about a motive, but the Army released a statement saying it did not believe the shootings were an act of political terrorism.”
From the Houston Chronicle
November 5th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
Another shooting occurred at the post Sept. 8, 2008.
In that incident, Spc. Jody Michael Wirawan, 22, of Eagle River, Ala., who was scheduled to soon be discharged, fatally shot 1st Lt. Robert Bartlett Fletcher, 24, of Jensen Beach, Fla. When Killeen police arrived, they fired shots at Wirawan. He responded by shooting himself, Fort Hood officials told The Associated Press at the time.
Guess that was a terrorists as well, Hyperflatulation?
November 5th, 2009 at 6:36 pmGood grief, these people are just …embarrassing!!!!
November 5th, 2009 at 6:38 pmHyperinflation says:
Let’s have another reading from the crystal teabag.
November 5th, 2009 at 6:53 pmFrom the pictures I have seen and the estimate of:
They must have packed those buses. Can’t imagine what “a million” wingnuts must smell like. I know the combined IQ must have been approaching 50.
If we remove those wingnuts >65 on Medicare then there would be far fewer.
November 5th, 2009 at 7:03 pmI am amazed that a certain individual is still here only trying to stir up sh!t rather than engage in intelligent discourse. I have no problems with differing views; just present yourself in an intelligent, civil manner and give me something to really “think” about rather than useless drivel.
November 5th, 2009 at 7:09 pmHi Hyperinflation
November 5th, 2009 at 7:17 pmI am back. Are you still a petrified pussy?
Wanna discuss that? You are so outleagued…
November 5th, 2009 at 7:19 pmIf you weren’t such a f ucked up loser you would know that in fact I drove across state lines to pick up my paycheck f4rom my night job and let them know that I wasn’t going to work tonight. Does it suck to be wrong so often?
November 5th, 2009 at 7:21 pmRinse, repeat….yawn…..
— Sure that would explain why despite your many names you can’t bring yourself to engage in a simply dialogue. You fear is known by all. I can toy with you all I want because you are helpless to stop it…. Sucks to be you…
November 5th, 2009 at 7:24 pmHyperinflation says:
You are so outleagued…
Rinse, repeat….yawn…..
Project much astroturf patsy? LOL!
November 5th, 2009 at 7:25 pmTwisted no life pos dick around online seeking negative attention bullshit socially alienated nobodies intrigue me…
November 5th, 2009 at 7:26 pmHyperinflation says:
You never left, psycho.
Project much patsy the psycho stalker with no life? LOL!
November 5th, 2009 at 7:26 pmHyperinflation says:
He was ALWAYS a muslim. Shocker!
Patsy is always a psycho teabagging lunatic no one listens to. Shocker!
November 5th, 2009 at 7:27 pmLet’s go lame ass. Get some nerve and have a conversation rather than a bunch of bulklshit cry for attention posts. I don’t give a shit whether you wanna by Olby Sucks or Hyperinflation or any of the many others. What I care about is helping you learn to be a man.
November 5th, 2009 at 7:28 pmHyperinflation says:
“muslims should stand up and attack!”
malik hasan
Sound reasonable, right?
Sounds like a teabagger, one of your ron paul buddies? LOL! ;)
November 5th, 2009 at 7:28 pmdbadass says:
What I care about is helping you learn to be a man.
You’ll have better luck teaching physics to a house cat than teach anything to this pussy! LOL!
November 5th, 2009 at 7:29 pmHyperinflation says:
PissedOffByTheLies
Which lies?
There are so many from you astroturf teabaggers it’s hard to know where to start! Which astroturf lunatic pays you to be a d**chebag daily? LOL!
November 5th, 2009 at 7:30 pmNotice as always when the subject becomes unnerved they flail about in an uncoordinated manner akin to a spastic pussy pos socially alienated loser too petrified to engage in a focused discussion… Everywhere you go there I am loser. Wanna know how to make it stop?
November 5th, 2009 at 7:35 pmThat’s right sissy you have the power to make it stop. What you lack is the nerve. You are weak, embarassing, and shameful. I feel for your kin.
November 5th, 2009 at 7:37 pmOh I am at -1 how troubling? Face it dipshit. You can’t win this. Why not just change names yet again. Won’t matter. I will just humiliate you some more. Grow a pair and stand up and defend yourself like a normal person…
November 5th, 2009 at 7:40 pmThis has nothing to do with stalking. This is about encouraging you to stop being a dipshit and grow up and have adult discussions about topics. You have been coming here for so long with no principles or values but just a desire to get attention and be a jackass. Explain to me why that is? What is your goal and why do you choose to do this? You hide what you spend your days doing from your family don’t you? You know it is messed up and abnormal don’t you?
November 5th, 2009 at 7:46 pmI need to drop off some dvds and pick up some file’ powder. When I get back here I had better find you gone or find you actually posting intelligent discussion based ideas. See the thing is that inteeligent well articulated opposing views are welcome here. What you do isn’t that. Which is why I am forced to do the thing I do best. What do you say do you want a seat at the adult table?
November 5th, 2009 at 7:53 pmJust more proof the GOP & right-wingers have to BUY their supporters. Pathetic.
November 5th, 2009 at 8:16 pmThanks, patsy!
Why does vermont love ‘em some child predators?
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November 5th, 2009 at 8:48 pmWhat the hell are you talking about and how would I know? Are you mistaking me with someone else?
Remember my little friend you have the power to make it stop. You only need to become a big enough person to effect that change. Till then I will continue to own you and it will continue to eat away at you since you remain utterly helpless and defenseless…
November 5th, 2009 at 8:59 pmIt pisses you off yet you have no capacity to solve your problem. You so want to cling to your bullshit need for negative attention that you can find yourself out of the paperbag I have placed you in. So tell us why do you come here? What is it that you are seeking? What is it you hope to gain?
November 5th, 2009 at 9:02 pmcan = can’t. Either way you remain my toy and I can and will do whatever I wish with you and you won’t do shit about it. Mommy must be so proud of you….
November 5th, 2009 at 9:04 pmHyperinflation says:
dbadass says
Thanks, patsy!
Why does vermont love ‘em some child predators?
You should ask your parole officer why they like you patsy? ;)
November 5th, 2009 at 9:36 pmHyperinflation says:
Actually, I’m starting to feel sorry for you. Stalk much?
Predictable projection from the stalker. Next?
November 5th, 2009 at 9:36 pmHyperinflation says:
LA doctor fakes exams, lets diseased immigrants get visas…
Nice, huh?
If “illness” was a reason not to be a citizen, your “mental” one would have ejected you long ago patsy! LOL!
You acting like a 3rd reich brown shirt after the gypsies and jews is predictable for a nationalist fascist though patsy! LOL! ;)
November 5th, 2009 at 9:38 pmWhat do you socialist marxists have against free Americans who protest out of control government and high taxes?
I can tell who’s side you all would have been on in 1776. Er’ wait, I forgot, you actually have to pay taxes to really understand what is wrong with the current administration who, incidentally, has outspent Bush 4 to 1 and enslaved future generations with trillions in debt.
You all must either still be in community college or you are receiving free handouts from George *Schwarts” Soros the x-Nazi sympathizer. To say that you understand economic freedom would be like saying obama knows how to run a business.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:03 pmThat was sort of kooky…
November 5th, 2009 at 11:07 pmTim43 says:
What do you socialist marxists have against free Americans who protest out of control government and high taxes?
What do you Fascist Nazis have against democracy and the democratic will of the people?
Tim43 says:
I can tell who’s side you all would have been on in 1776.
LOL! You could, but we “both” know you’d be wrong! In 1776 they were demonstrating for the right to democracy, you teabagger nutjobs are protesting to “overthrow” democracy like a good little redcoat d*uchebag.
Tim43 says:
Er’ wait, I forgot, you actually have to pay taxes to really understand what is wrong with the current administration who, incidentally, has outspent Bush 4 to 1 and enslaved future generations with trillions in debt.
Is that why we “blue states” subsidize you inbred rubes with our “taxes”? Outspent Bush 4 to 1? LOL! You are a complete retard? For that to be possible the “budget” would need to be 12 Billion dollars for 2009! What an ignorant lying fool you are “timmeh” the inbred!
Tim43 says:
You all must either still be in community college or you are receiving free handouts from George *Schwarts” Soros the x-Nazi sympathizer. To say that you understand economic freedom would be like saying obama knows how to run a business.
Says the moron that can’t do simple arithmetic! As for your anti-semitism against Soros – puhlease! Could you be any more stupid? Don’t think so, that’s you you don’t believe we have the “freedom” to “democracy” and it’s “consequences”. Hitler didn’t trust “democracy” either – just like you and your anti-democratic unpatriotic teabagging terrorist buddies!
November 5th, 2009 at 11:14 pmyperinflation says:
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Xisithrus says
You couldn’t care less about the nine people that were murdered? Classy!
Look in the mirror and see who is the one politicizing their deaths on a partisan website to score political points…
November 5th, 2009 at 11:40 pmWait, I thought you guys accused Soros of funding everything from anti-war protests to the daily gay sex Bacchanalias that TEH HOMO AGENDA is working on…
Oh I forgot, IOKIYAR…
You can’t deny that corporate America is funding these so-called grassroots marches. These aren’t grassroots Tim, but rather astroturf. Unfortunately for you, you’re also a corporate pawn, a slave to corporate America who lets the deluded masses do their dirty work for them…just look at the front groups handing out signs that these protesters probably didn’t spend minutes reflecting on.
November 5th, 2009 at 11:43 pmLATTA: They all paid for themselves. You know, these people came down on their own
Ya know, you are an f’n liar. I bet you’re damn proud of that distinction too!
November 5th, 2009 at 11:55 pmIn memory
An ignorant punkass troll with the brain of a fruitfly
November 6th, 2009 at 5:15 amTimmeh
You are a liar a punk and a moron. We already KNEW how stupid and pathetic you were so stopping by to spew a few lies and show once again how pitfully stupid you are really served no purpose. Just STFU. The adults are talking and you are FAR too stupid to contribute
November 6th, 2009 at 5:18 amHypertrajanMORON
You are stupid. You are a punkass troll. No one here cares about your stupid spewing. STFU.
November 6th, 2009 at 5:19 amTo Bob Latta:
YOU LIE!
November 6th, 2009 at 9:22 amOnly in America do you see people fighting for the right of for-profit healthcare corporation ceos to bankrupt them.
Ignorance abounds.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:28 amDo these people even realize that they are ’slaves’ to the corporations or do they know this but are they too proud to admit it?
November 6th, 2009 at 6:23 pmThrse idiots can’t even think for themselves! Sheesh, my parents and my younger sister would probably be at the head of the crowd if they didnt have to go to school or work, and I’d probably be right there with them holding a sign FOR healthcare reform. But, unfortunately, I was in class all day yesterday, so I couldn’t go and make fun of them.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:36 pm