Right-wing protesters at GOP rally display prominent sign tying health care to the Holocaust.
By on Nov 5th, 2009 at 1:02 pm
Right-wing protesters at GOP rally display prominent sign tying health care to the Holocaust.
ThinkProgress’ Lee Fang snapped this photograph of a prominent sign being displayed at today’s GOP anti-health care rally. It’s unclear whether this sign is one of the many being handed out by Americans for Prosperity, the corporate front group sponsoring today’s rally. The sign reads “National Socialist Health Care: Dachau, Germany – 1945”:
Matt Yglesias observes, “There are all kinds of nutty people in the world, but these kinds of things are the wages of a conservative leadership and media that’s consistently tried to drum-up opposition to health care reform not by opposing things that are actually in the bill, but with demagogic opposition to completely fabricated provisions.”
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So Doug Hoffman has quit politics to become a sign maker. Interesting career choice.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:03 pmAre our usual trolls all at the Ignorance Parade today? I haven’t read all of today’s threads but I didn’t smell any troll droppings on TP at all today.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:07 pmThat’s over the line. Someone has to pay for this, one way or another.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:08 pmThe lowest common denominator lacks shame and watches Fox “News”.
Horrible.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:09 pmI am very afraid for America! The republicans are destroying our country.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:10 pmPOX “news”.
Sesame Street has it CORRECT.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:11 pmA Patriot Acting, they are hitting the crist and army threads.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:11 pmUm…OK, I give. In what way is a public option comparable to Dachau?
Oh, silly me. Fearmongers don’t feel the obligation to explain or justify any of their outrageous messages.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:12 pmIt is rapidly getting to the point where these thugs will attack someone, and then scream that the police who come to their victim’s rescue are trampling THEIR rights.
They’ll shoot someone and then sream “GUN CONTROL!” when their guns are taken away.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:13 pmOnly the repugs could compare Obama to Hitler with a straight face.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:14 pmYes, the astroturf handlers are demagogs but the fact remains that some feeble minded individual who probably couldn’t find Germany on a map and who probably could not tell you who fought with the allies in the second world war had no problem waving that sign. On one level I am fine with this because that kind of sign exposes the opposition as fools. On the other hand, the fact that these weak-willed sheep live among us makes you recognize how easy it is for the demagogs to attract followers.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:15 pmStupid should be a crime. Then we can put an end to this farce.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:15 pmIt’s amazing that Jonah Goldberg has had such an impact. All the other Western industrialized nations have national health insurance, and no death camps. What is it about the present that is so hard for these people to look at? If it’s not WW II, it’s the founders with these people. Way to keep the eye off the ball.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:18 pmIf you haven’t seen it yet, go on the firedoglake channel on YouTube. They have a video of Rep Akin(R-MO) messing up the United States’ Pledge of Allegiance live on Fox “News”.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:18 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Is this the last straw? I so hope it is. Freedom of expression is one thing, but freedom from offense is another.
Look, just because you have the freedom to say something, that doesn’t mean it should be said.
A little candor and civility, if you must.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:18 pmIm speechless.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:19 pmAt least the people against health insurance reform, as misguided as they are, cared enough to organize a protest.
Where is the demonstration in favor of health insurance reform?
November 5th, 2009 at 1:20 pmOnly the repugs could compare Obama to Hitler with a straight face.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:22 pmThey seem to be conveniently forgetting that hitler was a demogogue, and all the demagogues seem to be coming out of the GOP.
REmember folks, republicans project their own flaws and issues onto their opponents. This means, deep down, they know they are only a few steps away from being nazis.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:22 pmI suppose these teabaggers still expect to be treated politely by others? Shameful beyond words.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:22 pmStupid is as stupid does. Another wingnut day, another nail in the GOP coffin for 2012. Pass the popcorn please…
November 5th, 2009 at 1:22 pm@20, with behaviour like this Bob, I don’t think their inner nazis are all that far down.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:23 pmEnough already with this dangerous rhetoric! Talk about invoking fear. Beck is still using 9/11 to invoke fear over healthcare reform, and now this!
November 5th, 2009 at 1:24 pmBasically, old white people, all on medicare no doubt, being bussed into our nations capital to claim their freedom is being denied. These are a shameless bunch of old white bigots! How horribly clueless, shameful, and frightening
these people are simply in the bubble. Their only real message has been and continues to be “We hate liberals.”
November 5th, 2009 at 1:24 pmThey have no idea how to deal with the health care crisis. Their own situations may be precarious, and if they get sick, it may ruin them. They might be on Social Security and Medicare.
None of that matters.
Liberals are in charge (by their lights) and they hate liberals. It’s the only thing that drives them. Their own can screw them six ways from Sunday (and they have) and they’ll smile and cheer. Liberals may save the economy, the country, and their own sorry keisters, and they’ll hate them for it.
@15, You are a digrace. Not only was that offensive but what you wrote came out of your ass. You obviously missed the bus to the protest. Get lost.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:24 pmGodwin’s Law doesn’t just apply to internet message boards and blogs, you know.
And, of course, Michelle Bachmann avidly supports maniacs comparing weak-ass healthcare reform where 9m people will get relatively weak government-backed healthcare insurance to the worst mass-murder in modern history.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:25 pmHi, Beefeater.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:26 pmWhat do you want to bet this photo never makes it on MSM? I’m sure CNN-Lite and Faux News won’t show it. Maybe Ed, Keith and Rachel will broadcast it.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:26 pmThis image just renders me speechless.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:27 pmOur trolls are a little testy. And resorting to spewing inane, hateful rhetoric just to get attention.
Aww…
November 5th, 2009 at 1:27 pmYes — because nothing screams credibility and reason more than equating the pre-meditated slaughter of 6 million innocent European Jews with the push to provide basic and affordable health care to more U.S. citizens.
Ladies and Gentlemen – I give you the perverted mindset of your modern American conservative.
Just saying . . .
November 5th, 2009 at 1:28 pm.
The House plan covers 33 MILLION Americans…
… The G(no)P’s covers 3 MILLION American.
Who’s plan leaves more to die again?
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November 5th, 2009 at 1:29 pmLet’s play “spot the minorities” in that picture. I can only see white folks there.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:29 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Wow, I got a good look at that photo finally, these people need a whole lot of help. whether they want it or not.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:31 pm… and by the way, what’s with the upside-down sign to the left of the picture?
November 5th, 2009 at 1:31 pm@35. So where’s your respect clown?
November 5th, 2009 at 1:31 pmYou can certainly tell where last quarter’s $3.8 billion went for lobbyists.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:32 pmLet’s ignore this troll. He is not funny, he has no credible arguments and he is a disgrace. Some trolls can be amusing and some are just funny because their arguments are so off the wall. But this one is odiuos.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:32 pm“I Haven’t seen white people this angry since they cancelled M*A*S*H*” – Chris Rock
November 5th, 2009 at 1:32 pm40. P.D.,
Amen to that.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:33 pmUSNclerk says:
Stupid should be a crime.
In memory of Noor Almaleki says:
We can only that Obama’s Capital Police will beat some respect into them.
… jeez, you make it too easy.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:33 pmDespite the odds it just keeps getting harder to tell where the stupid stops and the crazy begins.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:35 pmstewarjt says
Where is the demonstration in favor of health insurance reform?
Well, the people who have jobs, and subsequently health care through those jobs, cannot take the time off to protest because they need their jobs and cannot leave their jobs on a whim to parade around the Capitol on their own dime.
And since Corporate sponsorship (Dick Armey’s Freedomworks Organization is picking up the tab and busing people in) has allowed these people to transport themselves to DC for a little fun at little or not cost to themselves, I can’t see that the two situations are equivalent.
Most of the rest of us are calling our Senators and Representatives, though, to get this thing done even for those people on the Capitol Steps that don’t even know what they are protesting.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:35 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
USNclerk says:
@35. So where’s your respect clown?
Clearly, that word isn’t in his/her vocabulary…nor in any teabagger’s vocabulary.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:37 pmfrom USA Today:
In a statement, Capitol Police said the nine were arrested without incident and that there have been no other arrests today.
Well “Noor” now we know why you didn’t include a link. Hertz Doughnut?
November 5th, 2009 at 1:37 pmPersonally, I think we should give these right wing nut cases exactly what they are asking for. We should impose a 30 day conservative trial period. For 30 days we stop ALL social activities in America. I mean everything that is tax supported! Military, Fire departments, police, schools, airports, buses, mail, social security, medicare, traffic control…I mean everything they are whining about paying taxes for. I bet when their medicare quits and no social security check comes they will be whining like whipped puppies. Let them see how ignorant they really are.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:37 pmAnyone know any nice Canadian men looking for a nice American girl?
November 5th, 2009 at 1:38 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
From the NY Times story about Crazy Shelly’s little shin-dig (re-posted from the Think Fast thread):
aka, “Keep your government hands off my Medicare!!”
:shakes head:
November 5th, 2009 at 1:39 pmThis is how far they have to go to get anyone’s attention..
and it still isn’t working..
they’re an embarrassment.. a disgrace. a mockery of America.. a mockery of free speech. A putrid disgusting faux patriotic ooze contaminating the country. They make me sick.
and that is no exaggeration.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:39 pmWhat is with these peoples fascination with all things Hitler.
Hitler wasnt a socialist or a nationalist those,I say, were just campaign canards.
He put people in labor camps and killed off his nationalist supporters and millions of white people got killed in the wars he started so yanno, he wasnt so much an aryan either and he also made us of the christian moral superior types.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:40 pmDoes anyone know how many are there? I read it was 8,000 and others at 2,000. Does anybody know the real number?
November 5th, 2009 at 1:41 pmXisithrus says:
November 5th, 2009 at 1:43 pmHell, these idiots don’t pay any attention to the facts! They only know what Rush tells them.
Popatop says:
There is no “freedom from offense” as much as you’d like there to be.
Are you sure? Have you seen Carrie Prejean’s conservative porno vid yet?
November 5th, 2009 at 1:43 pm.
A-MAYZING that there are Americans who think Americans DO NOT deserve affordable health care options.
A-MAY-ZING!
That these same people equate saving MILLIONS of Americans is like Hitler’s drive to kill a religious minority.
A-MAY-ZING!
That these same people quote Christ in their lust for greed and power.
A-MAY-ZING!
And they have no shame for it either.
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November 5th, 2009 at 1:44 pmDisplaying such a sign is a horrifying disgrace to the souls in the picture.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:45 pmTo equate a reform of health care with the brutal, inhuman slaughter of innocent men, women and children is a symptom of hideous ill health.
All of you who are appalled at this sign are obviously missing the point here. Don’t you realize that Mickey Mouse Bachmann has already immunized the teabaggers from being accused of this atrocity?
Just last night, she was surmising that the SEIU crowd would show up with some outrageous acts in an attempt to discredit all of her “freedom-loving Americans” who turned out to attend her “Circle-jerk for Obstructionism”. That sign just has to be an SEIU dirty trick!
p.s. — And wasn’t it interesting that Sobbing Little Johnny Boehner didn’t take his time at the podium to promote the republican’s alternative health reform plan? Looks like even he is embarrassed by his party’s efforts.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:45 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
They are good little loons. They are using their trickery to make it seem like there are thousands of idiots. The tactic I find amusing is throwing their signs in front of the camera to block the sparsely attended klan meeting.
HAHAHAHAHAHA
November 5th, 2009 at 1:46 pm.
O.F.F.
Operation Flag and Forget…
… Let the monitors do the clean up!
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November 5th, 2009 at 1:47 pmHi, Beefeater.
A little more civility, if you please.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:48 pmOnly a teabagging hick terrorist could possible believe that providing health care to a nation is the same thing as genocide. Seriously, you idiots need to get an education and a job.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:49 pmI’m sure the American Jewish population will think this is ok. /snark
November 5th, 2009 at 1:49 pmPopatop says:
Purple State says:
Is this the last straw? I so hope it is. Freedom of expression is one thing, but freedom from offense is another.
There is no “freedom from offense” as much as you’d like there to be.
Um…harrassment? I do think we have laws for that.
I’m pretty sure there are lines that can and cannot be crossed when it comes to “offense”.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:51 pmWell I’m sure that with the bell curve the average IQ there is about 66.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:52 pmOh Poppy I almost forgot Carrie’s in the new 2010 “Great American Conservative Women” calendar. Let’s see, she’s there with Anne Coulter and Michele Backmann (think they’ll join her in her next XXX vid?) and hey there’s Bay Buchanan and Phyillis Schlafly too. What fun. Freedom from offense? As Sarah Palin would say, “You betcha!”
November 5th, 2009 at 1:53 pm.
I’m curious…
… Where does the Anti-Defamation League stand on this equation?
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November 5th, 2009 at 1:53 pmJesus was against healing people for free.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:53 pmIt would be really interesting to see what would happen if a uniformed police officer were charged to take pictures of the crowd and their signs. I have a feeling that the crowd would thin out and most of the signs would disappear.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:53 pmPopatop says:
you and the other troll dummy must enjoy all that rushbuttboil anal posing you seem to drink it right up.
I ask if you could enplane any thing to me but you are like the other trolls and can not use there own brains.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:54 pmSo went you get around to actually being a human you then might make it closer enough to be able to say with any honesty that you are a american.
I find that sign really offensive!!!! I think Americans for Prosperity and the Republican Party owes the Jewish community, and that includes me, an apology, for this vile, despicable jargon they are spewing. I could get into the fray and say who even remotely comes close to Nazism~ with this fascist Goebbels-like propaganda?? But I wouldn’t want to complement these loons defacing the Capitol steps today.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:55 pmstewarjt says:
At least the people against health insurance reform, as misguided as they are, cared enough to organize a protest.
Where is the demonstration in favor of health insurance reform?
Probably sick.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:55 pmthe immense irony of Joe Lieberman a JEW being a filibuster for these violent inbred nazi ass fcuks is overwhelming…
answer to this Joe.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:55 pmLeeHope
You know the teabagger are going to accused Grayson for using the terminology first. Of course Grayson’s example was closer to the truth.
Teabaggers are way over the top, this is more of teabaggers’ trickery.
November 5th, 2009 at 1:59 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Hi, Kenneth.
November 5th, 2009 at 2:04 pmKenneth, that’s one take on things. If your desire is to ignore reality.
November 5th, 2009 at 2:05 pmThe Teabaggers themselves are too stupid to think of such a thing. I wonder which Insurance Lobbying company is behind it? I’d like to think Bachmann sold out to the Insurance people for Big Buck$, but I doubt it: she’d sell her soul for a quarter. Cheap at half the price!
November 5th, 2009 at 2:06 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Hi Kenny.
November 5th, 2009 at 2:06 pm.
Dear Kennith,
Are you a Christian?
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November 5th, 2009 at 2:07 pm82, Ron Jeremy?
November 5th, 2009 at 2:08 pm.
Dear Kenneth,
What did Christ say about that second coat of yours?
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November 5th, 2009 at 2:09 pmKemmeth says:
“Cluster-Shaft.”
Geez, Kenny, how long have you been composing that one?
November 5th, 2009 at 2:09 pmlux @ 76 that’s just what I was thinking. Trader Joe has aligned himself with these scumbags and hopefully he will wake up to reality or face the consequences of his decision to block reform. If he chooses to continue to obstruct this abgle could go far in helping whover runs against him.
November 5th, 2009 at 2:10 pmAnd yet, that sign will receive no coverage in the mainstream media.
November 5th, 2009 at 2:11 pmHeck if I know, Kenneth. Nor have I ever been accused of doing so.
November 5th, 2009 at 2:11 pmMaybe AIPAC will have a chat with Michelle and the Other Repug Loudmouth Pols. they don’t care for gratuitous use of holocaust symbolism.
November 5th, 2009 at 2:14 pmHi Jack.
November 5th, 2009 at 2:14 pmNot the real Kenny. The real Kenny is at the rally. Holding a sign. This Kenny is a fake.
November 5th, 2009 at 2:19 pm.
OF COURSE HITLER NEVER MURDERED THE JEWS…
… HE HAD HIS SOLDIERS DO IT FOR HIM.
Just like the USA had Uzbekistan BOIL ALIVE and RAPE PRISONERS WITH BROKEN BOTTLES.
http://rawstory.com/2009/11/ambassador-cia-people-tortured/
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November 5th, 2009 at 2:19 pmWow.
Sick…?
Stupid…?
I’m going for both. Yikes.
November 5th, 2009 at 2:22 pmIf you put people in labor camps, Kenneh, is that:
A. Slavery [Forced Labor]
November 5th, 2009 at 2:23 pmB. Fascism [Joining of government and corporations]
C. Socialism [spreading wealth?]
D. Nationalism [making serfs of his fellow Germans]
repugs aren’t a viable club, they miss the mark on logic. These folks aren’t playing by the rules, nor are they capable.
I don’t want their whinning lying deceitful stupid in our democracy.
They need to read the reform bill instead of bullshtting and wrecking the bill.
repugs we understand you need additional time to read the bill because your lack of cognitive and comprehensive skills. Don’t get discouraged after reading 2 pages.
Idiots!
November 5th, 2009 at 2:24 pmI continue to be amazed that people just “follow the crowd” rather than actually research the issues and think for themselves; I guess that’s how they (media) is able to stir up so much sh!t. I continue to laugh at those who don’t realize their Medicare is a government run, socialized program…I truly don’t understand how people get so sucked in by the LIES… At least these protesters acknowledged the Holocaust; I’ve met a few Holocaust-deniers…and they ain’t pretty; if you know what I mean…
November 5th, 2009 at 2:26 pmThe holocaust banner was approved by John Boehner.
November 5th, 2009 at 2:32 pmHold the f0uck up! I just enlarge the pic…It blew my mind. I know f0cking well those bodies aren’t picture of the german’s mass grave from WWII.
These nuts are really using their racist rallies to “shout out” to their idols, hitler, stalin, Che (double fake), and so on. They will use their nazi symbols and accuse others while brushing up their racist symbol artist skills.
Anyone carrying a sign with racist symboys should be whipped real good with said sign.
November 5th, 2009 at 2:36 pmSomebody tell me this isn’t the mark levin on the faux radio. PPPPPLLLLEEEAAASSSSEEE tell me this is another nut. Cause if it is I got a batshyte crazy story to tell about him.
November 5th, 2009 at 2:39 pmBet this one event made the Repubs lose another 500,000 moderates. Keep up the good work!
November 5th, 2009 at 2:46 pmOOPS….correction to #98….
….they (media) ARE able to stir….
Gotta watch my grammar….LOL!!
November 5th, 2009 at 2:50 pm… On one level I am fine with this because that kind of sign exposes the opposition as fools. On the other hand, the fact that these weak-willed sheep live among us makes you recognize how easy it is for the demagogs to attract followers.
Someone needs to remind these “fools” that 6 million Jews were slaughtered in the Holocaust. They were real people, with real lives, real loved ones. Their deaths — anyone’s death — should NEVER be used for political, financial or personal gain.
The other night, Keith Olbermann told Beck to “go to Hell” for invoking 9/11 in his rant against health care reform. If I were faced with Beck and his followers, I would have used words a little stronger.
November 5th, 2009 at 2:53 pmThe sign is way over the top and they will be denounced by respectable people and journalists. Don’t expect to hear Fox condemn the teabaggers. I hope they are flooded with complaints over this issue.
November 5th, 2009 at 2:55 pmThis crap is disgusting! How about talking to someone who survived the Holocaust or Pol Pot or Stalinism to learn what real tyranny and oppression is? The worst “tyranny” the average American endures is long DMV lines and frequent postage increases.
November 5th, 2009 at 2:55 pmWhether true or not, I tend to connect the Repub side with the pro-Israel side. And this sign is an affront to those who died in the Shoa. It cheapens their death.
And if we were making comparisons, wouldn’t the people dying for lack of healthcare be a better comparison ?
November 5th, 2009 at 2:57 pmAmong the signs in the crowd was one reading, “Waterboard Congress,”
November 5th, 2009 at 3:04 pm-LINK
I wonder how many people in that minuscule crowd don’t have health insurance. I’m betting they either don’t have any or they are on Medicare. I would like to be there to ask them why it’s so important to them to make sure that millions of Americans have no access to health care. I really want to know the answer to that question.
November 5th, 2009 at 3:06 pmI’m really getting numb to the overt stoopidity coming from these trogladytes on the right. Seriously, how can they keep deluding themselves into believing that they somehow represent the majority of the country or that they even understand the discussion? They operate under a constant cloud of fear and are afraid of anything that they don’t understand and then in a display of false bravado and bullying work to scare everyone else into doing what they want regardless of how destructive it is for them and everyone else.
I’m getting worn out fighting the inSanity of these morons!
November 5th, 2009 at 3:07 pmGame of Life says:
Somebody tell me this isn’t the mark levin on the faux radio. PPPPPLLLLEEEAAASSSSEEE tell me this is another nut. Cause if it is I got a batshyte crazy story to tell about him.
November 5th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
YES, That is Levin.
November 5th, 2009 at 3:07 pmI hope every one of these idiots gets a painful fatal disease, then gets dropped by their health insurance company. That would be Karma.
November 5th, 2009 at 3:17 pmBut they won’t because, judging by the amount of white hair in the crowd, they are already covered by Medicare.
OMFG, how does wanting health care for ALL Americans equate to those killed and stacked like cord wood in a concentration camp?
The person carrying that sign is truly disturbed.
What kind of “mind” works like that?
November 5th, 2009 at 3:24 pmTheRadicalRightisRadicallyWrong says:
I’m really getting numb to the overt stoopidity coming from these trogladytes on the right. Seriously, how can they keep deluding themselves into believing that they somehow represent the majority of the country or that they even understand the discussion?
As long as there are opportunists like Armey and people like Glen Beck and Palin to feed their delusions, the teabaggers will continue. If they take a beating in 2010, that may be enough get rid of these people. A few more losses like Hoffman and the teabaggers are going to lose their zeal.
November 5th, 2009 at 3:28 pmThe real Health Care Holocaust is insurance companies denying health care to millions of sick and dying Americans.
November 5th, 2009 at 3:37 pmWell said, delafield!
November 5th, 2009 at 3:40 pmUgggh, as someone who lost a relative in the Holocaust ( or Shoah in Israel, I think), I always find comparisons like these really offensive. I hope someone makes these idiots go to the Holocaust Museum so they could learn what the Holocaust was really about.
November 5th, 2009 at 4:08 pmstewarjt says:
Where is the demonstration in favor of health insurance reform?
Here ya go…
http://www.theyoungturks.com/story/2009/11/2/18357/2511/Diary/-6-UPDATES-Demonstrations-in-Favor-of-the-Public-Option-This-Week-in-NYC-LA-and-Atlanta-
November 5th, 2009 at 4:12 pmGame of Life says:
Somebody tell me this isn’t the mark levin on the faux radio. PPPPPLLLLEEEAAASSSSEEE tell me this is another nut. Cause if it is I got a batshyte crazy story to tell about him.
November 5th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
YES, That is Levin.
—-
Do tell!
November 5th, 2009 at 4:14 pmNoor is the most offensive troll I’ve seen here in a long time. Ban it.
November 5th, 2009 at 4:36 pmThis whole situation makes me sad for our country.
As a Texan, I would probably not even have access to a public option even if one passes, because I’m certain the state would opt out if given a choice.
Please keep the families of the shooting at Ft. Hood in your thoughts.
November 5th, 2009 at 5:04 pmIt’s called a “straw man”, and it’s the oldest political trick in the book. Here’s a DIY.
________________________________ (write in your target bill/candidate/program) will: (pick all that apply)
November 5th, 2009 at 5:42 pma) destroy the country.
b) kill old people.
c) take all your money.
d) take all your guns.
e) take all your property.
f) enslave your children.
g) force you to worship ___________ (enter your least favorite object of worship).
h) help the terrorists.
etc.
This is beyond the pale. It’s because of these creeps that we aren’t able to accomplish anything meaningful in this country.
November 5th, 2009 at 5:51 pmThis kind of xenophobic hyperbole is what the Nazis used to exploit the economic fears of post-WWI Germany. It’s the kind of fear-based, frenzied paranoia that allowed Hitler and the SS to implement the, “Final Solution.” Only now, it’s lobbyists and corporations exploiting the fearful and ill-informed. There’s a sort of repugnant and ironic symmetry to it. More than 10 Million Jews, Gypsies, Catholics, Homosexuals, Developmentally Challenged and other, “Undesirables,” were slaughtered in the Holocaust. Comparing a plan for health care reform to Dachau so morally abhorrent that I hope these SOBs keep doing it. It shows them for the venal muckrakers they are.
November 5th, 2009 at 6:27 pmWHEREVER (ÜBER-ZIONIST) JON VOIGHT APPEARETH, THE MOST DEPRAVED SICKNESS(ES) IS(ARE) CERTAIN TO ACCOMPANY HIM!
I FIND THIS SO VERY, VERY DISTURBING! PLEASE GET ME SOME EXTREMELY POTENT MEDS. STAT!
November 5th, 2009 at 7:42 pmHere goes:
Ok, here is the levin story.
I was listening to him rattle on and on about typical repugs lies (long story to why I was listening to him) I believed it happened this week. It seemed he wasn’t getting any calls. Then a logical progressive was on the line and called him out on his lies. Of course levin when crazy.
I wish I had the feed. Anyway, levin ends the call and declares the caller a “real” “marxist” meaning President Obama and his administration aren’t really marxist. I mean he’s going off, it sounded like he was going to have a heart attack. He was having a cow. I thought this episode was weird.
In the matter of seconds, the nut talks to some one off mic and comes back on mic and tells his audience that a caller just killed his dog. levin’s voice is now dolorous and and his voice is decibels lower. It was so odd it seemed surreal. ( this story is better when the nut does it)
Then nuts got on air and was consoling levin, saying it wasn’t his fault, and it he shouldn’t feel sad, shet like that.
It was a matter of minutes he turned on hatred then sadness.
It was so fake it was unbelievable. The actual program reveled his nuttiness.
CRAZY
November 5th, 2009 at 8:26 pmI grew up with too many people around me that lived with both the physical and mental scars of the Holocaust. I remember as a child asking my Mother why some of these people had numbers on their arms and all I got was a “shush” from her. As a child of the mid 50’s I grew up only slightly removed from these atrocities. Now, to see some vile people using these images to make a useless point, and simply to incite others to violence. makes me physically ill. God help us all. We are all going to hell…..
November 5th, 2009 at 8:48 pmIn a 2007 Supreme Court case, Morse v. Frederick, also known as Bong Hits 4 Jesus, five partisan, right-wing ideologues, Roberts, Alito, Thomas, Scalia (RATS) + one so-called swing vote, Anthony Kennedy, ruled that student Frederick’s sign,
Bong Hits 4 Jesus, could cause “substantial disruption.”
Therefore, said the Roberts majority, Joseph Frederick’s free
speech should be suppressed. Though Frederick, a student at Juneau, Alaska Douglas High School, displayed the sign off campus on a public street the court concluded that he was engaged in student activity which allowed Morse, the school principal, to restrict Frederick’s free speech.
Contrast Bong Hits 4 Jesus with the recent assailing of President Barack Obama by the radical right-wing Republicans led by Michele Bachmann, Glenn Beck, Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh and others who are whipping up hatred and insurrection against our democracy and hoping to incite a “lone wolf” lunatic to assassinate Barack Obama.
Their messages of hate against Barack Obama hoisted by the apartheid element of the Republican Party in front of the Capitol today displayed the corpses of murdered Jews at Dachau concentration camp during World War 2, with a caption, “National Socialist Health Care: Dachau, Germany – 1945″ inferring that socialized health care will result in a similar holocaust against American citizens.
I ask you, if Bong Hits 4 Jesus causes “substantial disruption” then what do you call the Bachmann-led attempts to overthrow our government and our democratically-elected president? I call it substantially disruptive, treasonous and traitorous.
November 5th, 2009 at 9:37 pmThe most frightening aspect of the Dachau poster is the lack of any reverence concerning the atrocities.
Where is our country headed?
November 5th, 2009 at 10:06 pmPilotshark says:
Popatop says:
you and the other troll dummy must enjoy all that rushbuttboil anal posing you seem to drink it right up.
I ask if you could enplane any thing to me but you are like the other trolls and can not use there own brains.
So went you get around to actually being a human you then might make it closer enough to be able to say with any honesty that you are a american.
I’m American enough to at least be able to spell, and I think it would be really hard to “enplane” anything to you. Seriously, dude, the “X” and the “N” aren’t any where near each other.
November 5th, 2009 at 10:17 pmRe: DNFP @ 108:
Waterboard the teabaggers, and at least you’ll get a nice cuppa.
November 6th, 2009 at 12:24 am#130 Popatop,
If all you have is spelling errors to point out…
… Then you ain’t got much, do you?
p.s.
Yes, the freedom to speak IS limited.
Try going into a crowded theatre and yelling FIRE!
The trampled bodies would be YOUR responsibility.
The Law is clear on that.
Not that you can’t say what ever you wish…
… It’s just the responsibility of consequences that you don’t agree with, is it?
What then is “PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY” anyway?
To you, it seems to be non-existent.
.
November 6th, 2009 at 1:37 amP.D. Don’t you know? 8,000 rounds up to 800,000 and 2,000 rounds up to 2,000,000 in wingnut math…
November 6th, 2009 at 2:17 amFreaking sickening. The worst teabagger sign by far. These people need to take a walk, if their sclerotic arteries allow (otherwise, use the communist Metro), down to the nearby Holocaust Museum and learn what Dacau was and what it stood for and why it should never be trivilized. Fricking reprehensible.
November 6th, 2009 at 5:27 amIn memory
My GOD you are a stupid piece of dogshit
November 6th, 2009 at 5:34 am#98 “At least these protesters acknowledged the Holocaust; I’ve met a few Holocaust-deniers…and they ain’t pretty; if you know what I mean…”
You’ve got to be kidding me. Exploitation of a horrific image of the piled bodies of victims of the Nazi camps to protest health care reform is not really “acknowledging” the Holocaust because it ignores how reprehensible the Holocaust was and uses this comparison so lightly, so thoughtlessly with not an ounce of recognition of how offensive and ignorant such an action is, and thus they really are no better than deniers.
Hear, hear to post #106. These teabaggers are so eager to paint themselves as helpless victims and martyrs on the same level with such folk which is shameful and then they add hypocrisy to it by screaming about personal responsibility and “rugged individualism” in their whiny protests.
November 6th, 2009 at 6:34 amThe dearth of historical literature, involving personal criticisms of Hitler, may have been in part, responsible for that tyrant’s almost mythological ascent to the status of historical villainhood; IMO, others have similarly attained ‘realistic demonization’, subsequent to their terrestrial lives, with the effect of elevating their simple, ordinary humanness to a sort of fabricated evilness which at its minimum, was unlikely to have been directly perceived by those who had known and worked with them.
Otherwise, more resource should be provided to build additional libraries, and to replenish existing shelves with literature, which would accomplish: a) removing the sources of dis-information, by supplying new alternatives; b) creating realistic images of the normal balance of the human intellect, in the minds of youth, and college students; c) spur mature attitudes toward diversity, which will eventually guide businesses and individuals toward providing needed goods and services!
November 6th, 2009 at 9:01 amI think those repulsed by this use of Holocaust as propaganda should resist the temptation to vilify ALL REPUBLICANS and instead use this as an opportunity to further marginalize the right wing. This could help a lot of moderate republicans realize that they are being courted by extremists.
November 6th, 2009 at 4:03 pm