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ThinkFast: November 5, 2009

By Think Progress on Nov 5th, 2009 at 9:00 am

ThinkFast: November 5, 2009


Rep. Michele Bachmann

In a conference call last night that was arranged by the corporate front group Americans for Prosperity, Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) called on protesters to “scare” members of Congress into killing health care reform. “Republican organizers are planning for activists to go into the House office buildings and the U.S. Capitol and confront members directly.”

Speaking on the House floor yesterday, Rep. Alan Grayson (D-FL) read estimates of how many people will die in each congressional district if health care legislation is not passed. “Is it really asking too much of us that we keep people alive?” asked Grayson. “We know according to the Harvard study we will keep these people alive.”

After clearing “one of the final hurdles” late Tuesday, Democratic House leaders are pushing for a Saturday vote on their health care bill. House leaders “didn’t appear to have secured the 218 votes they need” due to concern about the funding of abortions, but leaders are moving to quickly swear in two newly-elected Democrats in an effort to pass the bill before next week’s holiday.

The Republican wins in New Jersey and Virginia helped inflate Fox News’ ratings Tuesday night, the New York Times reports. Fox, which was the only cable network to see significant ratings increase on election night, had its “biggest percentage gains” when the Republican governor-elects gave their victory speeches.

Senate Democrats are considering passing their climate bill out of the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee without amendments today due to a GOP boycott of the mark up process. The committee is due to convene at 9 a.m. today.

The Senate passed a bill to extend unemployment benefits by 20 weeks. Under the plan, the length of time that those out of work can receive benefits “will increase to 99 weeks, or nearly two years, the maximum length of time that a jobless worker can get benefits in some states.” The House is expected to pass the Senate version this week.

House Democratic leaders are struggling “to strike a deal that would restrict the use of federal money to pay for abortions under sweeping health care legislation headed for debate on the House floor this week.” But the compromise that has been proposed has thus far “satisfied neither supporters nor opponents of abortion rights.”

Vice President Biden is at the Center for American Progress today to host a panel of leading scholars on the unique challenges facing America’s middle class in the 21st century economy. View the live webcast here from 10:30 a.m. – 12:00 p.m. Biden is chair of the White House Task Force on Middle Class Families.

And finally: The New York Times has scary news: Fox News host Glenn Beck has written a thriller, due out this spring.

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97 Responses to “ThinkFast: November 5, 2009”

  1. House of Roberts says:

    “Senate Democrats are considering passing their climate bill out of the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee without amendments today due to a GOP boycott of the mark up process.”

    What took you so long?


  2. Chyron HR says:

    And finally: The New York Times has scary news: Fox News host Glenn Beck has written a thriller, due out this spring.

    The story of the Commisislamofacist plot to replace the rightful President of the United States (and 3-time Miss Universe Winner) Parah Salin, with the Kenyan-born Antichrist Obamahitler Von N****r.

    Fox News Proclaims: “The best selling novel in all of human history, and a bargain at just 1% of the cover price.”


  3. USNclerk says:

    And finally: The New York Times has scary news: Fox News host Glenn Beck has written a thriller, due out this spring.
    I don’t even think I can make a witty comment on this.


  4. Zimzone says:

    Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) called on protesters to “scare” members of Congress into killing health care reform.

    BOO!

    Does that include you, you oatmeal brained excuse for a Representative?

    Inciting violence on a daily basis is not exactly your job, Miss Batscat.

    Oh, that’s right; you worship Steven King, which explains a lot.


  5. P.D. says:

    How many do you think will show at Michelle’s Tea Party? It really doesn’t matter. Faux and the Righties will inflate the numbers. Yet again.


  6. USNclerk says:

    Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) called on protesters to “scare” members of Congress into killing health care reform. “Republican organizers are planning for activists to go into the House office buildings and the U.S. Capitol and confront members directly.”
    Can we scare her into quitting? She’s making my head hurt will all this firebrand rhetoric.


  7. Dr. Hussein Matt says:

    Carrie Prejean SEX TAPE Triggered Settlement

    HA HA HA Yet ANOTHER so-called “Christian” reich-wing SCUMBAG exposed as a hypocritical hick!!!! HAHAHA

    Where is Faux to come to the rescue of another hypocrite?

    Everything OSarah bin Palin touches turns to utter CRAP!

    Priceless.


  8. Bobwurst says:

    I hope staffers have their smartphones at hand to video tape the hate and crazy so America can see these republican thugs for what they are.

    And I hope they shun Bachmann. She is lighting a fuse to a bomb inside her own office building, she is threatening her colleages. White Bear Lake deserves to whither and die for sending this crazy to Washington.


  9. machost says:

    “due to concern about the funding of abortions”…this may not be the popular opinion here but why can’t a couple pay for an abortion out of their own pocket? On the same note though, I believe we should also not be funding nose jobs, boob jobs, e.d. boners or octo-births either. I would simply like to see all basic healthcare covered.


  10. USNclerk says:

    House of Roberts says: @1.
    Hey give them a second, remember that the rethugs have gummed up the process for so long, it may take a little bit for dems to realize these morons took themselves out of the decision-making process and that they need to wake up and slam some legislation through.


  11. DNFP says:

    Yet ANOTHER so-called “Christian” reich-wing SCUMBAG exposed as a hypocritical hick!!!!

    It’s just their M.O. really.

    Liars, hypocrites, and thieves: the makeup of the modern day GOP.


  12. Marie says:

    Sen. Boxer has it right. If repugs want to behave like spoiled brats, boycotting hearings in an effort to get their way, it is their folly. Pass the climate bill without them.
    What would repugs have done two years ago?
    Recall, they relegated Dems to meeting in basement storage rooms, and at other times would turn out the lights on their meetings.
    I don’t suggest Dems behave as boorishly as repugs, but use the rules to an advantage and proceed without the repugs.


  13. EnnuiDivine says:

    It’s never a good sign when a Representative’s Chief of Staff quits because said Represenative is insane. Bachmann will just keep ratcheting up the crazy until she:

    *Loses her re-election bid in 2010

    *Is arrested and expelled from the House for inciting a riot

    *Actually DOES slit her wrists to protest healthcare reform

    Any of the three would be a pretty amusing end, given her history.

    Whyyyy does Congress get so many week-long holidays? These people make six figure salaries (in addition to their vast amounts of personal wealth) and they still get week long vacations seemingly once every other month. Pelosi needs to cancel said holiday if there’s no vote. Give the Congress-objects off on the 25th-27th, let them spend time w. family/lobbyists for thanksgiving, and come back to do some real freakin’ work.

    GOP boycotts legislative session? Good. Schedule the vote. Listen to them whine and complain about how they were cut out of the process because they cut themselves out of the process. The only minority member of the committee who might have supported the bill is Voinovich, and he’s just running out the clock.

    Glenn Beck wrote a book.

    Bwa ha ha ha hah. Let’s see if he could avoid using the words “communist” “socialist” “racist” or “Barack Obama”. It’ll be a hell of a challenge for him.

    Also, I hear he’s in the hospital with a nasty case of appendicitis. Get well soon, Beck. We need your endless fodder and for you to destroy GOP electoral hopes.


  14. Dr. Hussein Matt says:

    DNFP says:

    Yet ANOTHER so-called “Christian” reich-wing SCUMBAG exposed as a hypocritical hick!!!!

    It’s just their M.O. really.

    Liars, hypocrites, and thieves: the makeup of the modern day GOP.

    CHINOs = CHristian In Name Only


  15. Briseadh na Faire says:

    Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) called on protesters to “scare” members of Congress into killing health care reform:

    “I think that will absolutely scare these members of Congress so much that Pelosi will not get the votes and it will kill the bill. I think it could be dead for 10 years. Why won’t we? Why won’t we go for broke?”

    If Bachman’s plan succeeds, 450,000 Americans will die because of it. For the sake of political gain, Republicans are willing to kill a half of a million Americans. For the sake of corporate profits, Insurance Companies are willing to kill a half a million Americans. But remember, we can’t have federal funding for abortions, because Republicans are “pro-life.”

    Let’s face it. The Republican Party is a terrorist organization: they support torture, illegal wars of aggression, indefinite incarceration without charges or trial, and the deaths of hundreds of thousands of innocent men, women and children to promote their cause. How does that not fit the definition of a terrorist organization?


  16. P.D. says:

    Dr@7, I saw that too. The Righties new angel has been tarnished. Do you think they will be headlining her around for the Rightie causes? Maybe. They had NO problem putting Sarah on a pedistool when her unmarried daughter had a child out of wedlock did they?


  17. Uncle Ho says:

    Good morning, campers

    While it is alright to pass another extension of unemployment insurance, what is REALLY needed is to pass a jobs program.
    UI is awfully skimpy to survive on, I know, I’ve been there.

    FDR put people back to work with the CCC and other programs. We NEED a modern day equivalent, not more UI.
    The CCC planted forests, and built our infrastructure which is now falling apart. It would put unemployed people back to work and rebuild our bridges, etc. It is also more dignified than just collecting yet more UI while hoping things may improve sometime in the future.


  18. EnnuiDivine says:

    Marie says:

    ——————————————————————————–

    Sen. Boxer has it right. If repugs want to behave like spoiled brats, boycotting hearings in an effort to get their way, it is their folly. Pass the climate bill without them.
    What would repugs have done two years ago?

    Remember the time the Dems brough up treatment of detainees at Guantanamo during a hearing chaired by Rep. Sensenbrenner? He cut off their mikes. Dems kept talking. He cut off the lights and shut down C-SPAN. Then, literally took his gavel and went home. The Dems didn’t whine, turn their tails, and run. They stuck it out.

    When the GOP isn’t trying to rule Congress with a scepter, they run like little children.


  19. angels81 says:

    bobwurst, don’t degrade White Bear Lake Minnesota. Bat shit Bachmann is not from White Bear Lake. Her district is up around Saint Cloud.


  20. EnnuiDivine says:

    17. Uncle Ho,

    Right on. Back in February…Stiglitz, Krugman, and other leading economists were pushing for a “Green New Deal”. It would solve two major domestic issues at once. Create a new national infrastructure based on renewable resources and sustainability, and get millions of people back to work to build it.


  21. Bobwurst says:

    machost says:
    “due to concern about the funding of abortions”…this may not be the popular opinion here but why can’t a couple pay for an abortion out of their own pocket?

    Setting aside the fact thatmany people choose the still difficult option of having an abortion for economic reasons, and ignoring the mulitude of young girls who get pregant and can’t get support from their boyfriends and whose parents would, at best forcet them to have the child, and at worst will beat them and kick them out the house for bringing shame onto the family name,

    An abortion is a legal medical procedure and to exclude it from the bill pathologizes it. Why bow to republican theocratic dogma? Next you’ll be wanting the gays to leave the sanctity of marriage alone and just let them have civil unions, Or seperate but equal schools. Or damnit, why can’t those uppity negros just use their own drinking fountains?


  22. IgnoranceIsNotBliss says:

    Grassley is up to no good again.


  23. Rab says:

    Bobwurst says:

    ——————————————————————————–

    I hope staffers have their smartphones at hand to video tape the hate and crazy so America can see these republican thugs for what they are.

    And I hope they shun Bachmann. She is lighting a fuse to a bomb inside her own office building, she is threatening her colleages. White Bear Lake deserves to whither and die for sending this crazy to Washington.

    Bachmann is more Woodbury (rich) and the batshite carving of a district that shouldn’t be, Those Minnesotans need to wise up. I’m from the state and she wouldn’t last one second in my area (Oberstar). I hope they toss her ass out next year.


  24. Bobwurst says:

    My apopliges Angel. May White Bear Lake continue to produce prodigius bears the color of pure MN snow, and may St Cloud be deluged with a rain storm that rages for 40 days nd 40 nights to wash that bastion of right wing hatred clean.


  25. unbelievable says:

    Speaking on the House floor yesterday, Rep. Alan Grayson (D-FL) read estimates of how many people will die in each congressional district if health care legislation is not passed.

    Why aren’t we electing more people like him?


  26. P.D. says:

    OT. But you won’t beleive this. MSNBC has a poll up asking people, Who’s reccommendation on reading a book do you trust more. Oprah or Glen Beck? Now they are comparing Beck to Oprah? MSM is constantly giving these wingers a platform. I thought Beck was a competitor? If so why the poll? Wierd.


  27. The Dogfather says:

    The representative from Batshittia is going to have some trouble getting her fellow teabagging wingnuts to the Capitol today; massive truck accident on the Beltway early this morning closed down the highway for a time, so it’s slow going here in DC (slower than usual, that is…).


  28. Bobwurst says:

    Ok, I hope that wherever the crazy lady of 10000 lakes resides decides to move to texas and help them secede from the Union. I used to live in Minneapolis and love the state, of course that was back when Senator Wellstone was alive.


  29. unbelievable says:

    leaders are moving to quickly swear in two newly-elected Democrats in an effort to pass the bill before next week’s holiday

    Only because logic, reason, evidence, and general human compassion have failed to move the Cons, I really hope those two new Democrats who just unseated strong Republican districts are the two votes that put the bill through. Schadenfreude is about all there is left at this point.


  30. EnnuiDivine says:

    22. IgnoranceIsNotBliss,

    Further proof that the only “freedom” reactionaries like Grassley care about are economic (the freedom for businesses to charge whatever they want for a product and the freedom to not get regulated by the gov’t) and property (the freedom to usurp public lands for private interests).

    Freedom of thought never enters into it, yet people like him claim that hate crimes legislation is an attempt to legislate thought crime.

    Hypocrites and wankers. All of them.


  31. Marie says:

    Bachmann must be exposed for her extreme obstructionist performances. She is preparing to cause disruption on Capitol Hill in order to satisfy her personal agenda.
    She lost a manager in February and the replacement just quit this week – something is rotten in her office and I think it is Bachmann herself.
    People need to see what a lunatic she is – can representatives be recalled? They have to be elected every two years – are there enough crazy people in MN to elect her again?


  32. spearNmagicHelmet says:

    is it too early or too late to say “you reap what you sow”?


  33. Divided We Fall says:

    So how exactly does Bachmann want the ignorant, crazy, lunatic fringe of the radical right to scare their congressmen and women? With guns?


  34. Dave N says:

    From today’s WaPo regarding Sen. Boxer preparing to report the climate change bill out of committee:

    Republican senators have defended the boycott, saying that they should not act on the bill — sponsored by Boxer and Sen. John Kerry (D-Mass.) — until they get a more extensive analysis of it from the Environmental Protection Agency.

    David McIntosh, associate administrator for EPA’s office of congressional and intergovernmental relations, testified before the panel Tuesday that such a study would cost $135,000 and would take 1,600 man-hours to complete. He added that such an analysis would not yield significantly different results from the one the agency has already done on the Senate bill.

    So there. Report the bill and get it to the floor. Good job, Sen. Boxer, for having some gumption.


  35. USNclerk says:

    “I think that will absolutely scare these members of Congress so much that Pelosi will not get the votes and it will kill the bill. I think it could be dead for 10 years. Why won’t we? Why won’t we go for broke?”
    I ask this question a lot, but isn’t this illegal? I thought you weren’t allowed to exert undue influence on the legislative process.


  36. Zimzone says:

    Marie says: …are there enough crazy people in MN to elect her again?

    We’ll see, Marie.
    I don’t think Shelly has to worry about Palin & Pawlenty squeezing her out because she’s not conservative enough, however!

    Bachmann’s district, which I’m not in, is quite conservative compared to most of MN, but even those voters may wake up & smell the batshit after stunts like she’s pulling off today.

    I can’t wait to see if her freshly resigned chief of staff is willing to spill the beans on what a true whacko she is.


  37. unbelievable says:

    The Republican wins in New Jersey and Virginia helped inflate Fox News’ ratings Tuesday night, the New York Times reports.

    Desperate people often do desperate things…

    Their needto be ‘#1′ at any and all cost really is clouding their ability to be human beings.


  38. missmolly says:

    unbelievable says
    November 5th, 2009 at 9:30 am

    I really hope those two new Democrats who just unseated strong Republican districts are the two votes that put the bill through.
    _____________________________________________________________

    I hope so, too. But let’s be fair. Only one of the newly-elected Democrats just replaced a Republican, and that was NY-23. In CA-10, the Democratic victor replaced another Democrat — although since that seat has been vacant since June, it will feel like a pick up for the Dems.


  39. ralph the wonder llama says:

    In a conference call last night that was arranged by the corporate front group Americans for Prosperity, Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) called on protesters to “scare” members of Congress into killing health care reform.

    “After all,” she hissed, “logic, reason and reality are all on their side. All we got is fear.”


  40. Zimzone says:

    Pull the Plug on Nanny!


  41. machost says:

    Bobwurst, nose jobs, boob jobs and octo-births are also legal medical procedures, but all are still ‘elective’ surgeries, I’m sorry. While I understand that it is a difficult choice and that some women, young and old, may find themselves without support (emotional or financial), I still don’t see why we must force all taxpayers to help pay for them. I would personally be happy to donate to Planned Parenthood to help fund in the case of financial hardship, but I think it is more important in this case to deliver something substantial to the millions of un and under insured Americans now, and fight the more narrow battles later.

    As for drawing a correlation between my abortion funding views and gay marriage, schools and/or separate drinking fountains that is ludicrous. I may be sensitive to the opposing view, but I’m certainly NOT a far right lunatic!


  42. Divided We Fall says:

    Uncle Ho says @ 17
    ===============================================================
    I totally agree! This is where I believe Obama dropped the ball.
    A program like the CCC could have put millions of Americans back to work rebuilding our infrastructure.

    I recently saw a program on PBS about the CCC. According to three former members of the CCC not only did it give them a job but it also taught them discipline, and how to get along with others who are different from them. One former member said it taught them all how to be men.

    You think our 18-25 year old’s could use this type of experience today? Of course if Obama created a CCC type of program you know darn well the right wingers would be calling it socialism, indoctrination, etc, etc, etc.


  43. USNclerk says:

    You think our 18-25 year old’s could use this type of experience today? Of course if Obama created a CCC type of program you know darn well the right wingers would be calling it socialism, indoctrination, etc, etc, etc.
    Which is stupid. I’m 25 myself and a little indoctrination would do parts of that demographic good. We need something to believe in, and if the Reichwingers can’t make it wholesome, then by all means, let’s introduce just a touch of socialism. Make us remember we’re all in this together.


  44. evangenital says:

    The majority of the citizenry wants the Dems to show some backbone and to butch up.

    The majority of the citizenry wants health care reform with a robust Public Option.

    Let Bachmann go back to being a nanny.

    Screw her, and screw the teabagger trash.


  45. mary lacewing says:

    RE: the arranged-busing-in-of-brainwashed-righties-to-DC-today

    Erick Erickson at Redstate this morning:

    Today, thousands will pour into Washington to tell Nancy Pelosi and the Congress to send Obamacare to a death panel

    The post originally was worded to send ‘Obama to a death panel’ but MediaMatters picked up on it and even the third commenter to the post suggested altering that language.

    You may want to reword this
    EagleWatcher Thursday, November 5th at 6:55AM EST (link)
    “…send Obama to a death panel…”

    A sample of the comments on the post from ohmom23:

    Now pray that Pelosi doesn’t try to bar us access to the Capitol. If the crowd is as big as I hope, it could get ugly fast.


  46. Marie says:

    Carrie Prejean is a young girl blessed with beautiful looks (some of them surgically enhanced) and an empty head. Conservatives paraded her as a “fine example” of christian youth and moral values.
    She represented what I think conservatives like in their women — good looks and a malleable persona for exploitation -intelligence is not a favorable characteristic… from all I can gather from the prominent republicans.
    This little act has blown up in their faces – rightly so – hubris, pride and self-righteousness deserve to be knocked down.


  47. Zimzone says:

    Regarding jobs vs unemployment benefits…

    I still see WPA projects from the ’30’s around my area that have lasted 70+ years and continue to be operational. (bridges, dams, local government buildings.)

    We need a comprehensive jobs program. Our infrastructure is rotting, be it highways, bridges (you all know what happened here in MN with bridges), or transmission lines.

    If the emphasis is placed on ‘green’ & alternative energy capabilities, we could move forward with jobs creation while replacing outdated technologies or monopolistic utility owned production plants.

    I’ve been disappointed in the lack of enthusiasm displayed by Congress on this issue. Shoring up banks & auto companies has had far less benefit than a comprehensive jobs program may produce.


  48. P.D. says:

    evan@44, You’re right. Ever since Tuesday the talking heads have been telling everyone that the voters want everything to slow down. Bullsh*t. The Dems have to step up and get sh*t done. That’s why Grayson is so popular. He has Balls.


  49. Bobwurst says:

    Mahost, first off, I wasn’t accusing you of holding those other, extreme views, only pointing out the similarities in logic.

    I have to disagree with you on the comarision between an abortion and a boob job however. In a minority of cases an abortion is a matter of life or death for the mother. In all cases, an abortion is not a superfical “elective” surgical procedure. Women don’t choose to have an abortion because they want to change how they look. That is an insulting comparision.

    There are enough dems to pass a single payer health care plan that inculdes access to abortion now, why take that away to mollify people who won’t vote for single payer no matter what?

    Abortion and those who seek abortions have been shamed for too long. It’s time to stop it.

    If you want to decrease abortions, support a health care system that provides for all.
    If you want to decrease abortions, fight for a living wage for all.
    If you want to decrease abortions, stop klssing Jerry Fawell’s ass. He’s dead, now let’s kill his ideology.


  50. Zooey says:

    mary lacewing says:

    A sample of the comments on the post from ohmom23:

    Now pray that Pelosi doesn’t try to bar us access to the Capitol. If the crowd is as big as I hope, it could get ugly fast.
    November 5th, 2009 at 9:55 am

    Nancy is making buckets and buckets of popcorn, so she and all her friends can enjoy the show. ;)


  51. Marie says:

    I absolutely support the idea of a CCC and a WPA. What better way to put people to work while improving our nation?

    Today, however, programs like this would be a very hard sell — we can’t even get health care passed for Americans! Repugs would squeal like stuck pigs with cries of socialism and takeover of the people. Just think of how they reacted to the recent advocacy for young people to spend some time serving the nation.

    It’s really too bad that repugs are so extreme and unwilling to think beyond their narrow views — the nation is suffering because of them.


  52. zuch says:

    In a conference call last night that was arranged by the corporate front group Americans for Prosperity, Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN) called on protesters to “scare” members of Congress into killing health care reform. “Republican organizers are planning for activists to go into the House office buildings and the U.S. Capitol and confront members directly.”

    In your picture of her there, I can see the whites of her eyes, and that’s pretty scary. She is craaaayyyyyyy-zzzzzeeeeeee!!!!

    Cheers,


  53. missmolly says:

    USNclerk says
    November 5th, 2009 at 9:39 am

    I ask this question a lot, but isn’t this illegal? I thought you weren’t allowed to exert undue influence on the legislative process.
    ___________________________________________________________

    Tell that to the health insurance industry and the $2 million A DAY they are spending to exert influence on the legislative process. It may be illegal, but it appears to be widely ignored.


  54. makete says:

    machost says:

    ——————————————————————————–

    “due to concern about the funding of abortions”…this may not be the popular opinion here but why can’t a couple pay for an abortion out of their own pocket? On the same note though, I believe we should also not be funding nose jobs, boob jobs, e.d. boners or octo-births either. I would simply like to see all basic healthcare covered.
    I’m with you here!


  55. zuch says:

    And finally: The New York Times has scary news: Fox News host Glenn Beck has written a thriller, due out this spring.

    Another work of fiction? What’s the big deal?

    Cheers,


  56. Liz Morrison says:

    From the Washington Independent:

    Top Bachmann Aide Quits

    Excerpt:

    On a wholly unrelated note, Politico quotes an anonymous GOP member of Congress offering this explanation for Marston’s departure:

    “When your captain’s crazy, it’s time to find a new ship,” the lawmaker said.


  57. Marie says:

    If you want to prevent abortions – and even those of us who are pro choice would want to reduce the number of abortions – then you must support education, contraception, counseling, and child care.
    The wingnuts who are strictly opposed to all abortions are also opposed to educating teenagers, opposed to providing contraception, opposed to child care, and opposed to Planned Parenthood and other organizations prepared to offer aid and counsel to those who need it.
    Can’t have it all one way, people.


  58. ralph the wonder llama says:

    makete says:
    …this may not be the popular opinion here but why can’t a couple pay for an abortion out of their own pocket?

    Sure. And why can’t they pay for a broken arm out of their own pocket?

    Or why can’t they pay for antibiotics out of their own pocket if they get an infection?

    Why? Because there is no medical difference between the procedures that would justify covering one but not the other. The only reason to cover a broken arm but not an abortion is to placate the wingnuts.

    That’s a bad way to start off a new, comprehensive health insurance program.


  59. Liz Morrison says:

    7, Doc Liberal Values has more here.

    And here’s Carrie at the Values Voter Conference. What a lovely speech.


  60. Dave N says:

    Marie @57, you probably already know this, but the Rethugs & cancervatives really don’t want to reduce the number of abortions. That would remove one of their main wedge issues that keep the wingnuts in their corner.


  61. Liz Morrison says:

    Hypertension, you don’t want to see Carrie’s XXX movie. It could leave you in a coma.


  62. Dr. Hussein Matt says:

    Hyperinflation says:
    Could it be because the other 2 cable networks didn’t air the speeches

    Prove it, loon.


  63. zuch says:

    The “concern” for the “funding” of abortions isn’t that. It’s an attempt to make sure that even your private plans (if you’re lucky enough to have one) will not pay for abortion-related medical expenses. They are trying to do this by insisting that any plan that even touches federal money or control (say, by participating in a pool, or taking money from people who are federally subsidized) does not pay for abortions. Quite the “compromise”, eh?

    As to machost’s thought that the “couple” ought to pay for it, in many cases it isn’t a “couple”, it’s a poor single woman left to hang in the wind. And if she’s not getting private insurance already (but see above), she’s probably not exactly flush with cash. And as some have pointed out, it’s not exactly “elective” surgery.

    Cheers,


  64. Dr. Hussein Matt says:

    Librul Media in 2001: Off-year elections have little national significance

    In 2001, commentators argued Dem wins in NJ and VA had little national significance:

    Mort Kondracke: “We have no way of knowing” how 2001 outcome would affect 2002 midterms.

    Mara Liasson: “A handful of off-year elections can’t be used to predict” outcome of 2002 midterms.

    David Broder highlighted the difference between open gubernatorial races and congressional races with “popular incumbents.”

    Michael Barone: “I don’t think that the issues and personalities” in Virginia and New Jersey races “are going to be congruent with very many” races in 2002 or 2004.

    Laura Ingraham: “Both sides are going to spin this,” but “to call this some kind of watershed moment against Republican views is nonsense.”

    David Frum said claim that a Republican sweep would be “a mighty victory for the fire-breathing style” of conservatism “is a deeply unrealistic assessment.”

    Chuck Todd: “[T]hese races say much more about Deeds/McDonnell or Corzine/Christie than they do about Obama.”

    HAHAHA

    Teabagging terrorists = useless idiots.


  65. machost says:

    Bobwurst, comparing an abortion to a boob job is in some cases, an accurate comparison. I am, in fact a woman, and I have, unfortunately, had more than one friend who used abortions as their birth control method. Increasing access to them is NOT going to decrease the frequency, nor would I say it would necessarily INCREASE their frequency.

    As for how we would go about decreasing abortions, I whole heartedly agree that fighting for a living wage should be a number one priority, accompanied by providing quality birth control and quality education.


  66. zuch says:

    #57 Marie:

    The wingnuts who are strictly opposed to all abortions are also opposed to educating teenagers, opposed to providing contraception, opposed to child care, and opposed to Planned Parenthood and other organizations prepared to offer aid and counsel to those who need it.

    … but are, as we speak, scouring the web for bootlegs of Prejean’s performance to watch in their office with the doors closed.

    Cheers,


  67. Dr. Hussein Matt says:

    Carrie Prejean — The Change of Heart

    We have more info on Carrie Prejean’s abrupt about-face during the settlement negotiations with Miss California USA lawyers — when they showed her the X-Rated version of Home Alone … starring Carrie herself.

    When the video started playing, Carrie’s first reaction was “that’s disgusting” … and Carrie denied it was her.

    Then, the camera angle changed … and panned up to her face. She was caught red-handed … so to speak.

    Carrie was rendered speechless and immediately began talking with her lawyer. We’re told it took about 15 seconds for Carrie to drop her $1 million dollar demand.

    Read more: http://www.tmz.com/#ixzz0VzzrypUX

    I’m laughing so hard at you pathetic inbred reich-wing hicks.


  68. Dr. Hussein Matt says:

    Hyperinflation says:
    hussein, obsess much?

    Yes, it appears you do. I’m glad you realize your problem.


  69. nellre says:

    The GOP has acted like a bunch of spoiled brats…
    That anyone would vote for a Republican simply proves that the marching morons have overwhelmed us.


  70. jean valjean says:

    While they are up there on government property protesting healthcare and the government, with Republican government officials, who have government-provided healthcare, they should all sign the Teabagger Socialist-Free Purity Pledge:

    http://images2.dailykos.com/images/user/2563/teabaggerpledge.pdf


  71. johnny dol1ar says:

    60 SuperCow

    Shut up, Jeffy!

    Next you’ll be posting your plagiarized article of Keith Olbermann at the game and you’ll continue bit chin about the Fox gNOpig Propaganda Network being “actually news”


  72. 5th Estate says:

    NY Times Reporter Is Either Stupid, or Lying

    According to Brian Stelter of the New York Times ( link in the Thinkfast post) :

    “An off-year election night of Republican victories in New Jersey and Virginia proved to be a big winner for the Fox News Channel, Nielsen ratings showed Wednesday.”

    Really? The TV division of the Republicans got big ratings by covering Republicans running for governor? How amazing!!!

    And how “big a winner” was FOX? Let’s look at the numbers, Jim!

    According to tvbythenumbers for Election Night Nov 3, 2009:
    http://tvbythenumbers.com/category/ratings/cable-news

    P2+ Prime Time
    FNC – 4,043,000 viewers
    CNN – 826,000 viewers
    MSNBC –974,000 viewers
    CNBC – a scratch w/99,000 viewers
    HLN –842,000 viewers

    Wow, FOX creamed the competition 4 million versus 2.7 million combined!

    “But for all the ballyhoo, only Fox News — which Bill O’Reilly, its top host, on Tuesday called a “traditional right-leaning network” — showed significant ratings gains

    Oh Reilly? Lets look at the gains over the previous day, Jim,!

    November 2, 2009
    :
    P2+ Prime Time
    FNC – 2,219,000viewers
    CNN— 467,000 viewers
    MSNBC –790,000 viewers
    CNBC – 143,000 viewers
    HLN – 462,000 viewers

    So the percentage increases from Nov 2 to Nov 3 are

    FNC……+ 82.2%
    CNN……+ 79%
    MSNBC….+ 23.5%
    CNBC……—31%
    HLN……+ 82.4%

    Let’s read that fine, “fair and balanced” ‘just-the-facts’ reporting again, shall we?

    Only Fox news […] showed significant ratings gains”

    So the order of significant gains is:

    1) HLN……………+ 82.4%
    2) FNC………………+ 82.2%
    3) CNN ………….+ 79%
    4) MSNBC………+ 23.5%
    5) CNBC…………—31%

    Clearly the article should have been titled:
    Brian Stelter Inflates Fox Ratings. Sucks at Math and Fails Comparative Studies.

    HLN had the largest gain. CNN was only 3.2 points behind Fox.

    And why is this news anyway? What does it mean? It means people interested in politics will watch elections on TV.


  73. Harold Melvin says:

    Rumors:

    Matt Sanchez and Carrie Prejean will be joining forces and combining their unique talents to make a “Conservative Values” XXX rated dvd feature. Tentatively titled “The Party of O” the vid should be ready to go to market in about a week. “Matt and I are really excited about doing this”, commented Miss Prejean. Mr. Sanchez agreed adding, “If it helps defeat health care reform it’ll be worth it.”


  74. Alejandro says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  75. Dr. Hussein Matt says:

    Harold Melvin says:

    Matt Sanchez and Carrie Prejean will be joining forces and combining their unique talents to make a “Conservative Values” XXX rated dvd feature. Tentatively titled “The Party of O” the vid should be ready to go to market in about a week. “Matt and I are really excited about doing this”, commented Miss Prejean. Mr. Sanchez agreed adding, “If it helps defeat health care reform it’ll be worth it.”

    I’m sure Jeffy Gannon, David Vitter, and Levi Johnston be included….the reich-wingers will be upset if they don’t make an appearance.


  76. Dave N says:

    Here’s what Alejandro isn’t telling you in 77 – this diatribe was straight from Alex Jones’ blog (infowars.com); not exactly a bastion of objectivity.


  77. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Hmm… Alejandro plagiarized in order to make a bogus point?

    … to quote a familiar troll around here… SHOCKER!


  78. Chyron HR says:

    “If we feed the biology and manage grasslands appropriately, we could sequester as much carbon as we emit,”

    And if you could make CO2 disappear by putting your fingers up your nose and chanting “booga booga boo” appropriately, then we could eliminate as much carbon as we emit.

    Of course, Al Gore and the rest of the Global Socialist Envirofacist Commune completely ignore this simple solution, too.


  79. Harold Melvin says:

    78, Doc, Alej will be directing from a script he wrote. If they can make sex dull, what other magic can they perform?


  80. Bobwurst says:

    Machost, First off, Abortion as birthcontroll is a very expensive plan, adn the scarring in the uterous causes fertility problems later on.

    Second off, should we really make national health care policy based on your friends? I have a friend who works for PP as a counsler, and most of the women, and girls, have terrible circumstances that are driving their decisions.


  81. Bobwurst says:

    Only about 10 percent of Planned Parenthoods buisness involves abortions.


  82. johnny dol1ar says:

    79 Dave N

    You mean Jeffy Bovine -HyperCow- is not the only troll plagiarizing other wingnutz’s tripe?

    I am so disappointed … Bovine, this other guy is stealing your shtick!


  83. Shayne says:

    machost says:

    Bobwurst, comparing an abortion to a boob job is in some cases, an accurate comparison. I am, in fact a woman, and I have, unfortunately, had more than one friend who used abortions as their birth control method.

    You suggest a “couple” can pay for the abortion. As somebody already said most of the time there is not “couple” and that’s the problem. And while you can take all the time you need to save up for plastic surgery you really don’t have that luxury with a pregnancy. And as for your anecdote about friends who used abortion as birth control that says something about you and your friends because I don’t have any friends who have. What I do have is friends who used birth control that failed, with men that darted the minute that pregnancy was mentioned, who had to work to support themselves and their children.


  84. Shayne says:

    What happened to alejandro, usually he tries to pass as more progressive than the rest of us. But now he’s showing his right wingnut colors like he doesn’t even care.


  85. MapleStreet says:

    “Republican organizers are planning for activists to go into the House office buildings and the U.S. Capitol and confront members directly.”

    And if the protesters are exercising their constitutional right to bear arms, ……

    Are you so crazy that you don’t recognize the crazyness ?


  86. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Shayne, I guess it takes a lot of energy to pass oneself off as a progressive when one is a wingnut.

    Alejandro may have decided it wasn’t worth the effort.


  87. Fred says:

    Shayne’s being coy, we all knew Alejandro was a teabagger all along. He only had himself fooled.


  88. DNFP says:

    Five (protestors) Arrested for Breaking Into Navy (nuclear missile) Base

    BANGOR — Five protestors associated with an international peace movement were arrested Monday after cutting through three security fences to reach an area where nuclear missiles are stored at Naval Base Kitsap-Bangor.

    Cited on suspicion of trespassing and destruction of government property were Bill Bischel, 81, a Catholic priest from Tacoma; Anne Montgomery, 83, a nun from New York; Susan Crane, 65, of Baltimore; Lynne Greenwald, 60, of Bremerton; and Steve Kelly, 60, of Oakland, Calif.

    LINK


  89. TheRadicalRightisRadicallyWrong says:

    Picture caption, “Why yes, yes I am crazy. Thanks for noticing!”


  90. T.H.E.Cat says:

    Re: evangenital @ 44:

    _I_ sure wouldn’t trust that deranged dingbat around kids.


  91. Dave N says:

    From the NY Times story about Crazy Shelly’s little shin-dig:

    Many of the demonstrators, like Judith Garloch of Newark, Ohio, said they were opposed to an increasing government role in the health care. Many said they feared cuts to the Medicare program for Americans 65 and over. Many described themselves as conservative and opposed to higher taxes.

    “We support our country and we’re patriots,” Ms. Garloch said. “And I don’t want my health care to be changed.”

    Ms. Garloch, who has a combination of Medicare and private coverage, said insurance should be sold across state lines to increase competition.

    But Ms. Garloch, like many in the crowd who while visibly angry. could not articulate the main problems in the health care system or how they should be solved.

    Some of the same people warning of too much government spending also complained that Medicare does not provide sufficient coverage.

    “Keep your government hands off my Medicare!!”

    :shakes head:


  92. Xisithrus says:

    What does T.H.E stand for gato?

    .
    _.
    _._

    _|_


  93. Xisithrus says:

    When is anyone in congress going to file an ethics complaint against Bachmann for asking her followers to be armed and dangerous, to put use fear [scare tactics]

    Does she not have any actual ideas? By using fear how is that democratic?


  94. mary lacewing says:

    Dave N says:

    Some of the same people warning of too much government spending also complained that Medicare does not provide sufficient coverage.

    “Keep your government hands off my Medicare!!”

    “No government health coverage!”, said the woman getting government health coverage.


  95. Land of a 1000 Dances says:

    94, Dave, the new Republican motto: Keep ‘em Dumb!


  96. Xisithrus says:

    You support your country by supporting a woman who wants you to scare your country into minority rule.

    Do these people recall “The only thing you have to fear [scare] is fear [scare] itself”?


  97. TheRadicalRightisRadicallyWrong says:

    I’m really getting numb to the overt stoopidity coming from these trogladytes on the right. Seriously, how can they keep deluding themselves into believing that they somehow represent the majority of the country or that they even understand the discussion? They operate under a constant cloud of fear and are afraid of anything that they don’t understand and then in a display of false bravado and bullying work to scare everyone else into doing what they want regardless of how destructive it is for them and everyone else.

    I’m getting worn out fighting the inanity of these morons!



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