Rep. Foxx: ‘All of us want all Americans to have health insurance and access to good health care.’
Rep. Foxx: ‘All of us want all Americans to have health insurance and access to good health care.’
During this afternoon’s Rules Committee hearing to determine which amendments would be introduced during floor debate of the House health care bill, Rep. Virginia Foxx (R-NC) announced that everyone can agree that Republicans want “all Americans to have affordable health insurance and good quality health care”:
FOXX: I think we should start with the premise that I have felt all along, despite being questioned on this by my colleagues, that all of us want all Americans to have health insurance and access to good health care. Again, despite accusations made against me, I think we would be all better off if we accepted that assumption. We want to go about it in different ways. But I think accusing each other of things that aren’t true isn’t a good way to start out this meeting. And so I want to say I believe everybody wants all Americans to have affordable health insurance and good quality health care. I just take that assumption.
Watch it:
But Americans shouldn’t “just take that assumption.” In fact, according to the Congressional Budget Office, under the Republican alternative, the number of uninsured Americans would increase to 52 million by 2019. The plan would provide coverage to only 3 million more uninsured Americans. Earlier in the hearing, Foxx suggested that it’s better to be uninsured than enrolled in the government’s Medicaid program. “I want to ask you if you know that Medicaid patients visit the emergency room at twice the rate of uninsured patients in this country,” she said. “More government paid insurance is going to increase the number of people going to the emergency rooms.”
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Of course that’s what she wants us to believe, that all republicans want all Ameridans to have good health care. It’s not true, but that’s what she wants.
November 6th, 2009 at 8:06 pmEarlier in the hearing, Foxx suggested that it’s better to be uninsured than enrolled in the government’s Medicaid program.
Has Mother Goose there rescinded her government/tax-payer provided health care yet ?
November 6th, 2009 at 8:08 pmTom Tancredo stormed off the set of the Ed Show when he was debating health care with Markos Moulitsas. Poor baby.
It all started when Tancredo started trash-talking the Veterans Administration, at which point Markos brought up his chickenhawk past. He got angry and tried the standard conservative whine, realized he was better quitting while he was behind, and then stormed off. The truth hurts, right Tom?
November 6th, 2009 at 8:17 pmRep. Foxx: ‘All of us want all Americans to have health insurance and access to good health care.’
– - And I want Charlize Theron in my bed and a Maybach in my garage but that’s not gonna happen either.
November 6th, 2009 at 8:18 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Dr. Matt, I’m sorry I missed that. Tancredo always seemed angry no matter what, I can only imagine his apoplexy!
On topic: How do people like The Virgin Foxx even get the idea in their tiny little minds that they are suitable for public office? I would have thought that the black hole of her brain would have sucked that spark of an idea right out of existence.
November 6th, 2009 at 8:24 pm“I want to ask you if you know that Medicaid patients visit the emergency room at twice the rate of uninsured patients in this country,”
Well, Virginia, the reason for this would be that maybe, just maybe, a good portion of those on medicaid are in their later years and subject to illnesses of advanced age that would require emergent care. And those uninsured patients? Cripes, they can’t afford the emergency room.
November 6th, 2009 at 8:28 pmUnfortunately the FIRE sector seems to disagree FOXX
And isnt medicaid cheaper than say, BC-BS, when one visits the emergency room?
November 6th, 2009 at 8:29 pmBut I think accusing each other of things that aren’t true isn’t a good way to start out this meeting.
really.
is that what you think?
you are an ugly – inside AND out – lying b!tch.
may be someone’s sweet ol’ granny, but i find that hard to believe.
November 6th, 2009 at 8:29 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
chucko33 says:
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November 6th, 2009 at 8:22 pm
Please explain the point of the CBO doing a “FINAL ANALYSIS” on a worthless piece of shit bill that easily appears more costly than the opposition’s version , even though MORE AMERICANS WILL BECOME UNINSURED under the laughably pathetic GOP plan……..
November 6th, 2009 at 8:32 pmHow can health insurance be affordable at 120% increase every decade when wages dont keep up with those increases?
When insurers raise rates because their investments lose money?
Their rates dont seem to go down when those investments make money. Why is that?
November 6th, 2009 at 8:32 pmUtility provider PG&E, in documents filed with the state, is seeking a five percent rate increase for its most energy-efficient customers. The increase is reportedly so the company can give it’s highest-volume customers a price break.
Wonder what CoalMiner thinks of that.
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chucko33 says:
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Correction: The CBO analysis that GOPers criticized but which ThinkProgress pointed out was a “partial analysis” was of the democrats’ Recovery Act, not the dems’ health care bill. But my previous point remains the same.
November 6th, 2009 at 8:30 pm
You had a point ?
November 6th, 2009 at 8:34 pmFoxx suggested that it’s better to be uninsured than enrolled in the government’s Medicaid program.
For who, exactly?
November 6th, 2009 at 8:37 pmQ: What’s the difference between Rep. Fuxx and Rep. Bachmann?
A: Lipstick.
November 6th, 2009 at 8:39 pmEarlier in the hearing, Foxx suggested that it’s better to be uninsured than enrolled in the government’s Medicaid program.
Well , it is for Mother Goose there………….She just invested in a mortuary ………
November 6th, 2009 at 8:41 pmQ: What’s the difference between Rep. Fuxx and Rep. Bachmann?
I was gonna say wrist scars
November 6th, 2009 at 8:42 pmtom says:
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Q: What’s the difference between Rep. Fuxx and Rep. Bachmann?
A: Lipstick.
November 6th, 2009 at 8:39 pm
And about a half a century …………
November 6th, 2009 at 8:42 pmIs this lady saying that people with Medicaid actually get sick more often than uninsured people? Or that. people abuse medicaid because they have coverage? What is this lady saying? Isn’t it obvious that people who can’t afford insurance, can’t afford to go to the emergency room? How bizarre, how bizzare.
November 6th, 2009 at 8:46 pmBatsh!t Bachmann should take note of Ms. Foxx — that’s herself in 20 years.
November 6th, 2009 at 8:46 pmOT sorry, but this ticks me off.
Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich is taking aim at President Obama’s decision not to travel to Germany next week to commemorate the 20th anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall, the latest in a string of conservatives to criticize Obama’s decision to skip the ceremony on November 9.
Weren’t the repugs recently criticizing Obama for going out to dinner with his wife instead of working on saving Afghanistan?
Weren’t these guys furious because he went to Copenhagen last month for 15 hours in support of the USA Olym[pics bid, when he should have been working on health care?
Now he will be criticized for not going to Berlin.
No matter what, where, when or who is involved Obama is wrong, wrong, wrong according to repugniscum.
November 6th, 2009 at 8:51 pmtuckograph, Foxx doesn’t think sufficiently to see the obvious contradiction in her comments.
November 6th, 2009 at 8:55 pmQ: What’s the difference between Rep. Fuxx and Rep. Bachmann?
McMetal and Marie, I agree, the major difference is the age. But I have a feeling that Bachmann is going to end up in an asylum long before she hits The Virgin’s age.
November 6th, 2009 at 8:55 pmGrandma Goebbels is just opposed to all legislation that would make health care available! ;)
November 6th, 2009 at 8:55 pmJane,
November 6th, 2009 at 8:56 pmYou made me smile :) with that one.
i say, good on chucko for the correction @10.
November 6th, 2009 at 8:56 pmMarie, glad to hear it. Then my work here is done. ;)
November 6th, 2009 at 8:58 pmJane
Try catching the replay of the Olbermann show tonight, where he shows a portion of the Tancredo interview with Kos.
Background: Tancredo was elegible for the draft in 1969, but he pleaded that he was suffering depression and was given a i-Y deferment. He continued, however, to support the war effort and denounce the war protestors.
November 6th, 2009 at 8:59 pm(what was that about leopards not changing their spots?)
my neighbor, one of those sanctimonious holy people who don’t want to share their tax money, told me the story of a friend’s girlfriend who was always in the ER with her kids for the slightest thing… it really angered him that she was abusing the system.
so in his world all the children should suffer…
November 6th, 2009 at 9:02 pmMarie says:
OT sorry, but this ticks me off.
Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich is taking aim at President Obama’s decision not to travel to Germany next week to commemorate the 20th anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall, the latest in a string of conservatives to criticize Obama’s decision to skip the ceremony on November 9.
Weren’t the repugs recently criticizing Obama for going out to dinner with his wife instead of working on saving Afghanistan?
Weren’t these guys furious because he went to Copenhagen last month for 15 hours in support of the USA Olym[pics bid, when he should have been working on health care?
Now he will be criticized for not going to Berlin.
No matter what, where, when or who is involved Obama is wrong, wrong, wrong according to repugniscum.
If he went he would be criticized anyway for traveling when we have problems that need work at home or some such crap.
November 6th, 2009 at 9:03 pmIt doesn’t matter what he does, the starting premise is ‘criticize Obama’ and the argument is then constructed to support that premise.
Thanks, Marie, I caught it on Keith. Yep, Tom went off in a huff – although I must say I’m surprised he acted less childishly than I had expected.
November 6th, 2009 at 9:08 pmThis woman was standing right next to Cantor yesterday and cheering him on when he assured the teabaggers that not one republican in Congress would vote for the bill.
I hate lies.
November 6th, 2009 at 9:08 pm#22, I don’t think the repubs remember what they said 10 minutes ago.
However, you might appreciate this irony:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/entertainment/8344776.stm
November 6th, 2009 at 9:09 pmHypocritical repugnant twit – which side of her mouth was she spewing her hypocrisy? She is always on the wrong side of any issue and she needs to leave politics now either due to retirement [I'm damned sure she's on Medicare as well as continuing her taxpayer-provided private insurance], or quickly by natural causes of her old demented brain.
November 6th, 2009 at 9:09 pmi am still waiting for this ignorant whore rep. foxx to tell matthew shappard’s mother to her face her son wasn’t murdered as part of a hate crime.
November 6th, 2009 at 9:10 pmThis old bag is s friggin liar. All the controvercial things she has said over the years. And she honstly believes we will fall for this plan? Man, she must live in a district where they must spike the drinking water with Kool-Aid or something.
November 6th, 2009 at 9:11 pmGood. Start with the 3,500,000 Americans who are homeless right now. What’s your plan to provide them with health insurance? Hold up signs at intersections? How about good health care? “Free” clinics once a year?
November 6th, 2009 at 9:12 pmIs this lady saying that people with Medicaid actually get sick more often than uninsured people?
I read that it was something like 95% of claims are by 5% of the sick in the last 10% of their life, IIRC
November 6th, 2009 at 9:12 pmA question I have for grandma Foxx is, she on medicare? I would like someone in the press to ask her that question.
November 6th, 2009 at 9:12 pmThis b!tch was chanting “Kill the bill!” behind Batshit Bachmann yesterday on the Capital steps, but now she wants us to believe her newest drivel.
Awesome.
November 6th, 2009 at 9:13 pmWhich means profits must be huge if you can get the sick off the insurance plan thru rescission
Conservatives are big on morals [core value thing] and I think a good question is the morality of charging healthy people for when they are unhealthy but then rescinding their policy is moral
November 6th, 2009 at 9:14 pmi wonder how she feels about all the anti-semitic posters held up at her little teabagger filth ball yesterday in front of congress?
November 6th, 2009 at 9:16 pmFire Bill J Fritz!
heh. crooked cop with juvenile delinquent kid
November 6th, 2009 at 9:16 pmIf she really likes the GOP plan, I suggest she give up her own government plan that WE pay for, And opt for the one she touts. After all, if it’s good enough for consituents it’s good enough for her right?
November 6th, 2009 at 9:22 pmSo we’re skipping from the memo that says we already have the best health care in the world and moving onto the one that says the Republicans will give us the best health care in the world. Thanks for the heads up Ginny.
November 6th, 2009 at 9:23 pm“Rock ‘til you drop. Or at least until you can’t do it anymore.”
Did you write that?
November 6th, 2009 at 9:25 pmskyler – that u2 story made the WORST list last night…
u2 and mtv shared the bronze…
woops.
November 6th, 2009 at 9:25 pm“…she said. “More government paid insurance is going to increase the number of people going to the emergency rooms.”
If Medicaid won’t pay for regular Doctor visits & regular checkups, then they’ll pay more at the hospital. So her solution for a poorly working underfunded Medicaid is to cut their funds. That’s so….Republican.
More sickness and injury to people without decent medical coverage will be going to the ER.
November 6th, 2009 at 9:42 pmRe: #11
“Please explain the point of the CBO doing a “FINAL ANALYSIS” on a worthless piece of shit bill that easily appears more costly than the opposition’s version , even though MORE AMERICANS WILL BECOME UNINSURED under the laughably pathetic GOP plan……..”
The CBO doesn’t seem to look at budget savings at all, or savings in the private sector. That is the definition of preliminary. That is why too many people think all these plans will cost a trillion. The CBO does not factor in premium payments, tax increases on the richest 1% of Americans, or future savings due to effective health care delivery. So what good are they anyway?
November 6th, 2009 at 9:42 pmYou know, I truly despise this woman. I rank her up there with Bachman. They have nothing to offer, they are hate mongers and they do a disservice to all their female constituents. I can only hope they can be ousted. If the voters keep voting for them, they are truly beyond redemption.
November 6th, 2009 at 9:44 pmJust maybe the Republicans have realized they have failed at framing the health care debate. At least Foxx’s demeanor has changed and she wants to assure constituents she is working hard on health care reform in a constructive fashion.
I do believe the Republicans are starting to worry about their$$es. They better bring home real health care reform that reduces costs and improves services or the can find new employment. The GOP is starting to crack!
November 6th, 2009 at 9:44 pmSkyler says:
#22, I don’t think the repubs remember what they said 10 minutes ago.
However, you might appreciate this irony:
A U2 show marking the 20th anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall ran into controversy after organisers built a wall around the venue…
It’s only ironic if you don’t take into account current walls being built with little publicity. Well, publicity seen in here anyway. Walls are actually everywhere in first world countries. Gated communities are really walled communities!
November 6th, 2009 at 9:45 pmBozo@42, I can’r believe how Bohner claimed he didn’t see it. God Damn, I was as big as a house! Eric Cantor did have regrets, but it came to late. The Repugs should have denounced it immediately or at least made the ‘Protesters’ take it down. This will have an effect when these guys run for election. I gaurantee it.
November 6th, 2009 at 9:47 pmOMG, what an idiot.
Medicaid patients, the old and disabled… who HAVE insurance (Medicaid) are “more than twice s likely to visit the Emergency Room” than young younger, not-disabled people with no insurance?
Really?
Did YOU know Ms. Foxx that morons are twice as likely to interpret false eqivalencies as evil than sane people?
November 6th, 2009 at 9:50 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
What a vile woman. Rachel’s show just tore her a new one.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:00 pmLiar, liar, pants on fire.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:00 pm*
kent jones, on maddow, doing a ‘get to know’ segment on this hag…
lots of good clips highlighting her idiocy.
i’ll wager that she will not like his report…
ha!
November 6th, 2009 at 10:02 pmAll the Tea-Baggery is really about racism.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:12 pmYo, Ludwig, re HR 3962:
I pulled up the bill (http://docs.house.gov/rules/health/111_ahcaa.pdf). Did two separate searches on the following (whole word match and case sensitive):
- misdemeanor
- wilfull behavior
- Criminal penalties
- felony
- unpaid tax liability
- 25,000
And found absolutely no references to what you stated.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:29 pmpwned
November 6th, 2009 at 10:36 pmThat horrid, ugly old hagg Foxx should just drop dead.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:03 pmI think we should start with the premise that I have felt all along, despite being questioned on this by my colleagues, that all of us want all Americans to have health insurance and access to good health care. Again, despite accusations made against me, I think we would be all better off if we accepted that assumption. We want to go about it in different ways. But I think accusing each other of things that aren’t true isn’t a good way to start out this meeting. And so I want to say I believe everybody wants all Americans to have affordable health insurance and good quality health care. I just take that assumption.
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Does Rep. Foxx suffer from dissociative personality disorder, by chance? Or is she simply another politician engaged in an Orwellian effort to convince people that she never actually made certain rash comments which made her appear hysterical and irrational — like, oh, comparing health care reform to terrorism?
This much can be said about Foxx…upbraiding other people for doing the same thing which she herself did less than a week ago (that is, making negative accusations against the other side) take one hell of a lot of nerve, not to mention an incredible amount of arrogance. Clearly, she believes in the principle “do as I say — not as I do” (or even more simply, IOKIYAR).
While we’re on the subject, remind me again — which party was the one which made all sorts of wildly exaggerated claims about health care reform this summer and encouraged disruptive protests at town hall meetings in an attempt to prevent any meaningful debate from taking place, hmmmm? It wasn’t the Democrats…
Does this really sound like a group of people who “want all Americans to have health insurance and access to good health care”?
No, it does not — not to me, at least.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:30 pmIf that is Grandma, then go ahead an pull the plug.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:53 pmGranny Foxx was born in June of 1943, so she is 66 years old.
She may not be taking her social security check because she is still earning good money as a representative, and she can delay that for a while, but she is eligible for Medicare. She has that great government sponsored healthplan available to all members of congress; I suspect they are forced into Medicare at 65, and keep the govt. plan as their supplemental.
She was a teacher in her younger days — how’d you like to have been one of her students?!
November 7th, 2009 at 12:37 amShe and her family already have their free medical care for life.
She just can’t get it into her stupid head that most of the rest of us do not serve in Congress, and therefore are net going to benefit from the “socialist medicine”
November 7th, 2009 at 12:50 amthat she condemns, yet uses eagerly.
All of us want good insurance, just we aren’t gonna give it to you.
-or-
All of us want good insurance althought it will mean the destruction of the world as we know it.
Which one reconciles best with her previous statements ?
November 7th, 2009 at 1:47 amHey Ginnie:
November 7th, 2009 at 3:04 am
We don’t need insurance companies to administer America’s health care system. The government can cover everyone and do it ten times better for 1/2 the cost. All we have to do is adopt the Canadian or German health care system.
It’s a no brainer.
November 7th, 2009 at 3:28 amWhat Americans really need to take note of during this health care reform battle is just how inept and unqualified many of these representatives and senators are. Foxx may have been an English teacher but that does not make her intelligent. I’m assuming she’s good with grammar, punctuation, sentence structure and so forth, but her old, crusted beliefs certainly block her ability to reason. She has said some of the most outrageous things, I just can’t believe any group of people would send her to Washington as their representative.
November 7th, 2009 at 9:15 amFortunately Ginny won’t have to worry about getting health insurance, thanks to the taxpayers. She’s got hers.
November 7th, 2009 at 10:21 amIt is laudable to start with the assumption that all parties approach the problem in good faith. HOWEVER, when one side DEMONSTRATES, over and over again, that they are not acting in good faith, when they belittle the problem, when they lie about the solutions on the table, when they fabricate scary provisions in an attempt to dissuade people from fairly considering proposed solutions, when they openly advocate a tactic of preventing a solution in order to gain political advantage, then it is STUPID to include them, STUPID to believe them well-intentioned, and STUPID to empower them in any way.
These people have shown us who they are. The American Public has removed them from power as quickly as our gerrymandered political system permits. We owe them nothing – not even the presumption of benign intentions; they have demonstrated that they have none. We owe the American People much. It is time to reward the public for their trust in us.
November 7th, 2009 at 10:23 amI think everyone could take Congresscritter Foxx at her word; sure, she wants Americans to have quality health insurance. She’s just going to do her damnedest to make sure that there’s no government insurance program, that no tax dollars go to fund insurance. She’s the first one on the bandwagon to pull the plug on Medicare and Medicaid, especially Medicaid. Any program that provides a hand out instead of a trip to bankruptcy for the lower economic classes is just communistic socialism, yanno?
I’m sure she’d also be in favor of reviving ‘poor houses’, as long as they’re operated by private corporations; none of those ‘free ride’ debtors prisons for American bankrupts. Indentured servitude would be good too. Can’t let that low class trailer trash get away without a good whoopin’ ever now and then…
November 7th, 2009 at 11:04 amI want to say I believe everybody wants all Americans to have affordable health insurance and good quality health care. I just take that assumption.
Well Foxx, I want to say I believe you are an idiot and I take the assumption that you areally don’t know what you are talking about.. I’m just making a guess, right?
November 7th, 2009 at 11:30 amSorry, that should be “….you really don’t know what you are talking about”. Me and typing don’t seem to be working well together this morning, especially without coffee.
November 7th, 2009 at 11:33 amThis may be a fine line distinction but I think the Republicans are playing word games. They want people to have access to health care which is not quite the same as having health insurance. We already have access to health care but it is a question of how much. The second part of the word game that they say nothing about affordable health care which would entail premiums, deductibles and copays that are affordable. The Republicans do not address the affordable issue as well as pre-existing conditions because these are not considered in their plan. They keep talking about tort reform as if it were a large factor in costs when it is not. The Republicans are taking a swipe at trial attorneys who sue doctors and hospitals for negligence. I would note that tort law is the province of the states and not the federal government, unless the tort is created by federal law. This attempt to preempt state tort law is a 10th Amendment issue. For the Republicans, states rights mean nothing to them on this issue. They are hypocrites of the worst kind.
November 7th, 2009 at 11:58 amThis is a window looking into her soul. Lies runn freely and truth and facts can be made up on a whim. This is NOT the reality I live in. Either she believes I am an idiot and do not know what she believes by her numerous statements, OR SHE is an idiot and does not know any better. Either way, couldnt we do a little better in picking our reps?
November 7th, 2009 at 1:26 pmHer ignorance or deception can be a dangerous thing for the rest of us.
This women/man is the uglest person/thing on capital hill. I’m not even sure she/it is a women. Second the people who elected “it” must be nuts too. I realize that they marry their cousins, brothers, sisters, aunts and uncles, but this cross breading has got to STOP! She/it looks like a “crackhead” on speed or maybe it has had too much to drink. This creature must be stopped before she does any more damage to mankind.
She/it is the worst person on the planet now that Sadam is dead. This thing makes Sadam seem like a boy scout. It also acts more like Baghdad “Bob” than a US Congressman. She/it tells so many lies, I’m sure it doesn’t know what’s true anymore, if it ever did. It’s a sad shame that it’s mother and father were sister and brother, because you see what cross breading does to the children. Man what a monster this creature turned out to be.
November 8th, 2009 at 12:11 amTo comment #11: Ok McMetal, I’ll say it to you slowly: preliminary analysis is not the same as final analysis. Got it? (Good)
Point is, TP thought it important not to trust a CBO score of a democratic bill a few months ago because it was a preliminary analysis. But TP does not think it important now to point out CBO’s score of a republican bill was preliminary. That inconsistency in reporting (by TP) is worth pointing out, no matter how bad the GOP is.
It really is that simple and straightforward.
Will the CBO score the GOP any better in its final analysis (if there ever is one)? Who knows. I don’t think so personally but it’s a moot point now that the dems just passed their bill (with 1 GOP vote from the very brave Joe Cao) Saturday night.
November 8th, 2009 at 12:28 amFox and Bachmann give women representatives a bad name. and have adopted the fancy Luntz verbiage. Wrap it in a pretty package and the rot will be hidden. Fox says “all people should have health care” but really means those who can afford to pay “private insurers” should have health care. Much like John McCain’s new bill the Internet Freedom Act which will divvy up airwaves to telecoms and limit the amount of FREE access to the rest of us. Like cable, we the public will be ripped off again and dollared to death.
November 8th, 2009 at 11:16 pm