Tom Tancredo storms off the set of MSNBC during debate with DailyKos’ Markos Moulitsas.
Tom Tancredo storms off the set of MSNBC during debate with DailyKos’ Markos Moulitsas.
Today on the Ed Show, former Republican congressman Tom Tancredo tried to argue that all veterans are unhappy with their health care under the Veterans Administration — as proof of why government-run care doesn’t work:
Every veterans group I ever went and talked to complained about the Veterans Administration and the way it was a bureaucratically-run program that didn’t serve their needs. They would much rather have vouchers that would let them go out and buy their insurance in a private marketplace.
When the other guest on the program, DailyKos founder Markos Moulitsas, started laughing, Tancredo replied, “You’re laughing, but talk to the veterans. They talk to me, and that’s why they said.” Markos then informed Tancredo that he actually is a veteran, adding, “I did not get a deferment because I was too depressed to fight in a war that I supported in Vietnam. I’m a veteran, Tom.” Tancredo became incensed at Markos, calling his comment “stupid” and demanding that he apologize. When he didn’t, Tancredo stormed off the set. Watch it:
As Markos noted, Tancredo was eligible to serve in Vietnam and was a supporter of the war, but received a deferment after “he went for his physical, telling doctors he’d been treated for depression.” After Tancredo left, Markos went on to say that Republicans are “terrified of government programs that work” because it threatens the myths they have built up.
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good riddance, chickenhawk. don’t want to see you again. this is what happens when you confront a bully: he runs away.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:27 pmI guess Markos hit a nerve! Great job! Totally exposed Tancredo as the ultimate hypocrit that he is. I’d love someone to do the EXACT same thing to Limbaugh that that fat f**k never puts himself in situations to have to defend his views.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:34 pmWhen confronted and the lies, spin and smears can no longer work there is no where else to go except run away and hide ….which is what the video clearly demonstrates.
Way to go Markos!
November 6th, 2009 at 10:36 pmWell, a veteran named Markos Moulitsas must be a terrorist and, therefore, must be screened (this is snark).
November 6th, 2009 at 10:38 pmThe way Tancredo bailed out in the line of fire,
November 6th, 2009 at 10:42 pmit’s probably better he didn’t serve.
Tancredo cannot stand up to the enemy, facts, or a liberal. Loser.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:44 pmTancredo does the funky chickenhawk right off the set. I am sure he he never saw that one coming. Markos punked him just as he deserved
November 6th, 2009 at 10:51 pmI think I speak for everyone when I say bwwwaaaahahahaahaa.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:52 pmIt is pretty normal for Republicans to leave the room when somebody starts telling the truth about them.
Or just telling the truth about anything, pretty much.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:54 pmMan, you could almost see Markoss’ footprint on Tancredos ass as he got up and left the set.
November 6th, 2009 at 10:55 pmThat was beautiful!!
GO MARKOS!!!!!
November 6th, 2009 at 10:57 pmTom Tancredo. Branded.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:00 pmThe point Markos made about Republikinks attacking any Government program that works in order to support the myths that live in their heads was spot on. Don’t let the door hit ya, crazy inflated ego jerk.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:01 pmTancredo didn’t run from the set, he slithered.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:05 pmI’m a veteran of the US Army, 1974-1982, SGT/E-5, Air Defense Artillery, and, although I was just a wee bit too young to serve in Vietnam (in hindsight, thank God), I’ve never heard the kind of crap from veterans that spewed by chickenhawks like Tancredo, Limbaugh, Beck, and the rest. No one prays for peace more than a combat veteran (and, in my case, a veteran of the European Baader-Meinhof crap… quite a few of my fellow Nike compatriots in Germany were targeted by them… not completely comparable to my brothers-in-arms who got shot at on a daily basis, but at least I get it).
It seems no one welcomes war more than those who never had any intention of serving, but have no problems sending other peoples’ family members to be cannon fodder.
Tancredo, you were pwned, and pwned royally. You go Kos!!!!
November 6th, 2009 at 11:09 pm(and, btw, thank you for your honorable service.)
It takes a special kind of courage not to serve and to vote for a war.
Tom Tancredo has that kind of courage.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:10 pmTancrydo demanded an apology from Marcos. Pretty funny, demanding Marcos apologize for saying He was a Vet and that he hadn’t dodged the draft.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:11 pmWho got stuck with cleaning up the pile of chicken guano Tancredo left on his chair after he stormed off?
November 6th, 2009 at 11:13 pmYo, Tancredo:
November 6th, 2009 at 11:14 pm
Republicans are “terrified of government programs that work” because it threatens the myths they have built up.
Exactly right.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:14 pmLiz @18 –
I thought I heard the “Bukk-bukk-bukawk” from the bigoted ass, Tancredo – as he left…
LOL
November 6th, 2009 at 11:18 pmWaiting to hear from our Mama’s-basement-dwelling chickenhawk trolls defending Tanking-credo… gonna be fun, I’m sure.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:19 pmgad… if i never see tancredo on ed again, it’ll still be too soon.
i hope ed doesn’t try to make up with that chump… i hate it when he’s on ed’s show – the only place i’d watch him… and i usually have to change the channel to save my brain…
he is a master filibusterer, i’ll give him that…
November 6th, 2009 at 11:25 pma very rude and obnoxious liar… and a whiner…
“Tom Tancredo storms off the set of MSNBC during debate with DailyKos’ Markos Moulitsas.”
Glad Markos put deferment Tancrazy in his place. Idiots and draft dodgers like Tancrazy and Darth Cheney have no leg to stand on when discussing the military and about the Afghan and Iraq wars.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:27 pmFunny story.
Last summer I was sitting in a Dairy Queen enjoying an ice cream cone on a hot summer night when who pulls up outside with his wife but Terrible Tommy.
His wife gets out and comes inside to order and there is a long line. Terrible Tommy waits outside. At first I didn’t recognize him, but I knew the face behind the wheel of the car. After a while he is getting steamed waiting and comes inside to see what the hold up is.
Now this is the funny part. Terrible Tommy is a short man, 5′ 6″ or so. He come in looking all around, back and forth like he’s expecting a Ninja to jump him. He talks quickly to his wife and heads out, back to his car and catches my eye staring at him and panic comes over his face. He’s been recognized!
I’m sitting eating an ice cream cone and reading a newspaper and little Terrible Tommy about wets his pants because he comes eye to eye with the Ninja he fears eating an ice cream cone. He jumps back in the car and I look at him and laugh. I can see his pissed that he’s been seen.
His wife comes out with Tommy’s treat and he backs out and about runs over a lady and her child trying to get out of the parking lot.
Terrible Tommy Tencredo is a little weasel afraid of his own shadow. He gets all puffed up when he’s around big dumb guys with red necks and shotguns and confederate flags plaster all over their pickup trucks, but Terrible Tommy’s a whimp, ready to pee his pants when confronted.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:29 pmokie dokie says:
The way Tancredo bailed out in the line of fire,
it’s probably better he didn’t serve.
This and a glass of wine have given me a good giggle..thanks okie, Mr. Moulitsas, and the good people of California.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:29 pmTancredo:
“Every veterans group I ever went and talked to complained about the Veterans Administration and the way it was a bureaucratically-run program that didn’t serve their needs.”
LIE.
On progressive radio most, it not ALL vets calling in are very happy with their care.
Also, it has been my experience in comparing hospitals, VA hospitals rate top in cleanliness. Because they do not skimp on cost? Rules regarding sanitation are stricter and rigidly followed? And in for profit hospitals,I have seen wall to wall carpeting on floors where patient care is given. That is filthy as there is no way carpet shampooing will eliminate dirt, germs and body fluids that occasionally make it to the carpet.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:30 pmskyler – i found this earlier at C&L, comments on the same subject:
I’m pretty sure
Fri, 11/06/2009 – 17:54 — Terrible
it’s against the true warrior ethos to support conflict. In the barracks I was in at Ft. Benning they had a quote of Douglas MacArthur painted on the wall.
“The soldier above all others prays for peace, for it is the soldier who must suffer and bear the deepest wounds and scars of war.”
November 6th, 2009 at 11:31 pmI saw fear in Tancredo’s eyes.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:34 pmI went to Wikipedia to see if TT is curently in the pay of the health insurance industry. They didn’t say what he is doing at present, but I was amazed that Wiki knows the future! They mention the Nov. 6 incident and say:
“The clip of this exchange was played numerous times on-line and in political talk shows over the next week.”
November 6th, 2009 at 11:41 pmKaty@28, quoted MacArthur:
And it is because of that, that our veterans deserve the very best medical care that we can, and do, provide. It is beyond my comprehension that someone like Tancredo, or the Holy of Anonymous Holds, Senator Coburn, could deny these men and women the care and benefits they have so earned.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:48 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
The group TT is the honorary chairman of looks like a bunch of crazies:
http://www.westernyouth.org/
An article about Obama’s May speech in Cairo has “Inspiration to Islamic Terrorism” in the headline and they say Obama: “emboldened the Islamist enemies of the United States of America and Israel and confirmed his administration spinelessness in the face of Islamo-Fascist evil.”
And their symbol looks like the fascist symbol.
November 6th, 2009 at 11:58 pmmilitary.com had an article a bit ago that said something like 80+% of Vets are happy with VA care and the hospitals got a 94% . . . and having spent a lot of time in the VA system AND hospitals, I can AGREE – first rate care and EXCELLENT staff . . . Tommy is a liar and chickenhawk . . . and Marcos smacked his fat yellow cheeks so hard he left feathers in the chair . . . . well done.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:05 am32, You missed Kos’ point entirely.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:06 amLondra,
November 7th, 2009 at 12:11 amWouldn’t your rules mean that Timothy McVeigh and Lee Harvey Oswald could be president, but Thomas Jefferson and FDR could not?
Keith, Londra probably has no idea what you’re talking about.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:25 amDo you think that this may have been Tancredo’s swan song on MSNBC?
November 7th, 2009 at 12:27 amMaybe we won’t be subjected to his ugly puss any more — he can present himself to the Fox audience where he’ll never be challenged with facts.
Tan Crazy like other Law Makers skipped out of serving in the Military. Notice how Bush and Cheney didn’t service the Country during the Vietnam War but had no problem allowing soldiers to illegally invade Iraq to die. We see the Protesters for the GOP and people like O’Reilly, Beck and many others cheering for more troops and continue the Wars for Cheney. If Obama were to open the DRAFT all this would end because not one Republican who supports this horror will allow their child to serve in the United States Military. Just let others die so the GOP and friends can still get the money. Limbaugh is fighting Obama with his help of his Republican supporters and Law Makers. People often say Rush isn’t the GOP Leader but notice how every Republican who speaks out against Rush quickly bows and ask him for forgiveness.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:30 amWhy does anyone have Tancretin , who is a Never Was , anyway , on their show to begin with ?
What did that do-nothing GOP tool ever accomplish ?
Did he ever author or co-author any piece of legislation throught his entire useless decade in Congress ?
He’s just another right-wing extremist moron………
November 7th, 2009 at 12:32 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
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Oh, and I have been diagnosed with severe depressive disorder, and still wore 3 stripes on my collar, held a Top Secret security clearance, and was prepared to shoot down Soviet pilots at a moment’s notice (with a nuke, btw).
So, what’s Tommy chickenhawk’s excuse?
November 7th, 2009 at 12:40 amSaw the 9 vote-ups —
“You like me… you really like me!!!”
November 7th, 2009 at 12:42 am— Sally Fields
DavidHart,how was Markos over the line. Tancredo brought up the subject of veteran care and acted like he was the expert. Why do you say the guy who served and spoke the truth was over the line when and the liar should be given free reign?
November 7th, 2009 at 12:45 amYou people claim you’re the “real Americans” but when somebody is duly elected like FDR repeadedly or Obama you think we’d be better off without them. THE PEOPLE ELECT THE PRESIDENT ALL THE PEOPLE.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:48 amTancredo bailed out again – couldn’t defend us or himself
November 7th, 2009 at 12:48 amThis is a typical repiggie trait – scream and yell and roll around on the floor for war, as long as one doesn’t have to fight it.
God made the lower classes for combat, so that his anointed repiggies can further the wars of the Prince of Peace on earth.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:49 amDavidHart says:
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November 7th, 2009 at 12:33 am
Tancredo obtained a 1-Y status in 1970, after his student deferments ran out, on the grounds that he had been “diagnosed with depression when he was 16 or 17 and received medication for five years for panic attacks and bouts of anxiety and depression.” Tancredo was TWENTY FOUR at the time.
You actually believe a future right-wing jackass like a Tancretin or Fat Bastard Limpballs wouldn’t look for every way to weasel their way out of military service during ‘Nam ?
Man , you couldn’t be any more gullible …………..
November 7th, 2009 at 12:57 amLondra,
November 7th, 2009 at 1:01 amI don’t even know which country you are a citizen of! It could be Berzerkistan for all I know! Tell us what country you fought for—when and where. Most historians think FDR did a fine job as CiC. I have read that Jefferson fled the British army of Benedict Arnold as Governor of Virginia. Can you give me a link to him being a colonel in the militia? Google turns up nothing except his being referred to as “civilian” during the Revolutionary War.
Londra kulesi muhaf?z? says:
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we would have been better off without FDR.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:37 am
Name just ONE crappy Republican president in the last century that’s anywhere near as good as FDR was , you GOP backing moronic suckhole……..Bet ya’ can’t , because he simply doesn’t exist.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:01 amFDR had greater success against Hitler, Tojo, and Mussolini in four years than W had against Iraq and Afghanistan in eight years.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:06 amIn 1972, I went to the draft physical with my best bud Wayne LaPierre (now NRA head). I passed, but had a high lottery number. Wayne had a low lottery number, but had a letter from a friendly doctor saying he had a nervous condition. He told me it was not true.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:09 amKeith says:
“The group TT is the honorary chairman of looks like a bunch of crazies…”
Keith, did you expect anything else?
November 7th, 2009 at 1:10 amTancredo is the reason I stopped watching the Ed Show. I could not understand why Ed kept inviting this smary, know-nothing, pompous, draft-dodging, lying windbag on his show to foul the atmosphere. I chose to stop watching his show rather than keep cursing at the teevee and increasing my blood pressure.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:10 amJane,
November 7th, 2009 at 1:13 amNot just ordinary crazy, but Glenn Beck crazy!
Keith, I’m not sure about that one – I think that people like Becky and Michele Bachmann are in a ‘crazy’ league of their own. Tancredo’s maybe double A, those two are already in the ‘crazy’ majors.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:18 am@53, seems the ones who are the most enamoured with firepower are those who have never had to be prepared on orders to use such.
Seems the ones who most adhere to the 2nd amendment above all other principles of our Constitution (except, a very superficial (which usually means what Fox tells them to belive) interpretation (and, yes, I’m liberal and armed – my bedside sidearm has 6 rounds of ratshot… care to test me?) are those who were never in a position to use firearms in a real situation.
Why are the advocates of potential violence against our duly elected President the ones who’ve never used a weapon in a military setting? We who have maintain our weapons expertise, but pray we will never have to utilize it.
Be afraid… I’m a military-trained expert on M16, M60, and grenade; I’m a liberal, and I’m armed (with a rifle, a 12-gauge and a pistol, as stated, loaded with ratshot).
Bwaaahaaahaaahaa!
(although I think, judging from the apparent intelligence of our trolls, once at the semi-colon, properly utilized, stalled, while asking wtf that funny symbol is… geez… homeschoolers! LOL)
November 7th, 2009 at 1:24 amEvery veterans group I ever went and talked to …
That would be zero ….
November 7th, 2009 at 1:24 amI read that Tom Coburn has a hold on Senate Bill 1963 which would offer assistance and improve benefits to wounded veterans and their caregivers. Senator Akaka of Hawaii, Chairman of the Senate Veterans Affairs Committee said, without mentioning names, that a single senator is denying veterans improved benefits. Thirteen major military and veterans groups have joined forces to get Coburn to release the hod, according to Marine Corp Times. Coburn also had holds on two Acts of veteran benefits earlier this fall.
With this, and all things Inhofe,
November 7th, 2009 at 1:24 amI’d say there must be some pretty good prizes
at the C-Street Christmas party this year for “Best Obstructionist”.
Paul the Sax guy, you betcha.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:26 amThey’d be real surprised to find out how many ‘liberals’ are veterans with combat experience.
I’d take 2 of us against 20 of these blowhard jackasses.
RUC @61,
Indeed, bro… and would be more surprised to know how many of us “liberal” vets are armed, and would defend our President and our duly elected representatives against their seditious and treasonous actions.
Something to think about.
Be afraid, winger-trolls. Not all of us “lefties” are as soft as you would like to believe.
If the “pundits” only knew, they would cower in terror more than they already do.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:31 amPaul, I was in 3rd Armored Div Frankfurt in 68 and Danang and Phu Bai in signal 69-70…
November 7th, 2009 at 1:33 am#60–That’s why I went to the VoteVets web site and signed their petition. Coburn is a mean, rape-supporting, hard-hearted b@$t@rd, with “Christian” values.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:34 amWay to go Markos, another Chickenhawk bites the dust.I work with plenty of vets and they have no problems,though it`s not perfect it does work.I am getting really disgusted with the Reich saying the gov`t can`t run health care.We need gov`t regulations and oversite because if you leave corporate America to police itself, well we are living it right now and it ain`t pretty.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:37 amThank you for your service, RUC (@63)
Really loved Frankfurt (the Red Light district had to be experienced to be believed, and loved the tropical long-drinks in the shadow of the “Miracle Church” – never had the pleasure of South VN, but I have had so many VN vet brethren that seem to echo the sentiments of our current entanglements — Shitty war, but good soldier..
Had the mission of locking and loading on Czech and East German pilots in the 70’s
Our resident warmongering trolls will never know how close we came to nuclear holocaust on a daily basis, and will never understand why we intelligent veterans insist on peace. Just isn’t in their vocabulary, because they’ve never know war, hot and real, or cold and potential.
Doesn’t seem to deter them from showing their, either, ignorance, or willful stupidity.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:41 amYet another Republican chickenhawk who sees absolutely nothing wrong with supporting and promoting wars while simultaneously doing everything in his power to make certain that he-and-his don’t have to deal with the consequences. Surprise, surprise — NOT.
In my opinion, promoting a war in which you yourself refuse to fight and/or which you attempt to keep your child from fighting is not only an act of cowardice — it’s ethically unjustifiable. Granted, no one in his or her right mind wants to face the risk of losing a loved one to war — but every soldier is someone’s son or daughter. Whether one is willing to acknowledge this or not, people who support a war while refusing to participate are effectively demanding that other people endure the pain which they refuse to face themselves and from which they believe they should be exempt — which only serves to demonstrate how self-absorbed and callously indifferent such people often are deep down when it comes to other people, despite the religious beliefs which many of them claim to hold.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:42 amOnly one idiot troll so far!
And the usual idiocy when it appeared. Maybe one of these days their idiocy will hit home and they will do themselves in! Nothing left for them on this planet.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:46 amEXCELLENT Markos!
PLEASE do not demean chickenhawks, who are fierce fighters, by putting them in the company of the Tancredo’s, Cheney’s, Rumsfelds, Condoleza Rices. They are SISSYHAWKS who send children to fight their wars. SHAME SHAME SHAME!
I can’t believe Tancredo, like Bolton and other Neocon FAIL FAIL FAILures, get any press.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:47 amWell, the main complaint I hear from vets about the VA is how hard it is to get in.
Once you get in, the VA has demonstrably superior results as measured by outcomes.
If Tancredo thinks the vets hate the VA so much, he should introduce a bill calling for it to be defunded. That should spark a few lively conversations.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:50 amGood riddance Tommy Boy! Watch out Nican Tlaca is outside your door in Lakewood!
November 7th, 2009 at 1:50 am@61. RUCerious says: Paul the Sax guy, you betcha. They’d be real surprised to find out how many ‘liberals’ are veterans with combat experience. I’d take 2 of us against 20 of these blowhard jackasses. November 7th, 2009 at 1:26 am
The chickenhawk crowd; the trolls, Republipimps, and pseudo-conservatives, are always surprised. They’re so fracking wrapped up in their own ego that they think everyone is just like they are. Apart from that, they have no respect; neither self-respect nor respect for others. It does them good to be blindsided occasionally; actual and verbal cream pies seem to work well in reminding them that they aren’t just spouting at a mirror.
Tancredo is a classic. At the first sign of a challenge to his (completely illegitimate and mostly spurious) authority, he throws a tantrum and runs away. He’s very much used to dishing it out and not being on the receiving end. In fact, from COprogressive’s comment @ #25, it’s obvious that the turd has not only arranged to not be on the receiving end, he’s also very much NOT the gentleman.
And that was excellent workmanship on the part of Markos.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:53 amMy impression is that an honorably served soldier/marine/sailor/airman prays for peace, and is prepared for war.
A chickenhawk neocon (Limbaugh, Beck, O’Reilly, Geo. Will, Goldberg, etc.) prays for war and adds the caveat “but not me.”
I can civilly disagree with someone with well-though-out issues… we just disagree. I am disgusted with those who sanctimoniously parade their “love” for their country and Constitution, but have never sworn an oath to defend the same. (and this doesn’t mean the redneck jackasses that show up armed at public gatherings with their mass-produced signs and ignorant rhetoric.)
November 7th, 2009 at 2:12 am@69. WellstonesGhost says: EXCELLENT Markos! PLEASE do not demean chickenhawks, who are fierce fighters, by putting them in the company of the Tancredo’s, Cheney’s, Rumsfelds, … November 7th, 2009 at 1:47 am
WellstonesGhost, when you see “chickenhawk” on these pages it is NOT in reference to Cooper’s, Sharp Shinned or Redtail Hawks; this blog and it’s commentary is not, in the main, devoted to ornithology or actual raptors.
The word “chickenhawk” in reference to various people goes back at least to the Vietnam War era. At that time, most of the supporters of the war were referred to as “hawks”. When it transpired that some of the politicians who were supporting the war had also managed to evade service in prior wars or during the Cold War, in deference to their verbal courage, but general chickenness, they became the first chickenhawks. At that time, chickenhawk was also slang for an adult male homosexual who had a preference for boys. I think that clinched chickenhawk as an apellation for the politico-military version which had it’s main nesting ground in Washington DC, but could be found bellowing and braying across the land.
No one is maligning the avian ‘chicken hawk’; in fact, the raptors that are called that generally don’t prey on chickens and are hence, misnamed.
November 7th, 2009 at 2:16 amLondra kulesi muhaf?z? says:
Gotta agree with Markos on this. If you haven’t served you shouldn’t be eligible for federal office, and I don’t care who they are.
Spoken like a right wing “nazi” fascist. Our founding fathers didn’t want a military dictatorship. You, like your fellow fascist fools don’t want “democracy” of the “people”, but tyranny by military dictatorship. f***kers like you are why central american has been such a sh*thole for so long!
November 7th, 2009 at 2:28 amLondra kulesi muhaf?z? says:
Keith you ignorant slu t, Thomas Jefferson was a colonel in the Virginia militia (although the story is that he abandoned his post in the face of the British Army)
Militias aren’t the military – you ignorant d**uchebag. Otherwise the 2nd amendment means nothing for gun rights extremists like yourself!
Londra kulesi muhaf?z? says:
and we would have been better off without FDR.
Ironically most historians would say that about “Hoover” and “Bush” for that matter… ;)
Londra kulesi muhaf?z? says:
As for the others, if they could get elected the fine, do you really think that would happen?
How about you move to Somalia or someplace else that has the “military” dictatorship sensibilities that you have? Instead of living in the US where you have no place? Ok d**chebag terrorist f***ker?
November 7th, 2009 at 2:30 amWho’s surprised that Tancredo is all about “veterans” as long as they don’t disagree with him being a p*ssy? What a useless d**chebag republican. What a party of pathetic hypocrites, losers and cowards!
November 7th, 2009 at 2:31 amFriday night, Canadian Whiskey & water, watching wingnuts spin themselves into another dimension….
November 7th, 2009 at 2:39 am…
…
Priceless!
Oh, c’mon… will no chickenhawk pu$$y troll challenge my credentials? Or, perhaps, break into my home? (hope springs eternal)
/sarc and snark
November 7th, 2009 at 2:46 amSorry, all… just feeling fed up and disgusted with the unending parade of lunacy attempting to portray itself as the philosophy of reason.
As others of a more progressive view have stated, at what point do we (of what really is the mainstream view of the vast majority of my fellow citizens, regardless of what the wingers may choose to believe) say “Enough is enough!!!!”
I am not one who, in contrast to the shrill loonies, advocates armed resistance… I say “Be Armed” with the voice of reason against the superstition of the Faux-worshipping mob! “Be Armed” with the voice of intelligence against the willful stupidity of the overfed pampered mobocracy. “Be Armed” with the voice of love against those who only know how to preach hatred, division, sedition, treason and rebellion.
So much for their misreading of the 2nd Amendment. It is much more powerful to be armed with those weapons that cannot be confiscated – reason, love, a sound mind, and a logically consistent belief system.
November 7th, 2009 at 2:54 amJefferson was not in the military. He was governor of Virginia. There was no “abandoning of his post”. There was no American army in Virginia at the time. Intelligence had said that the French would arrive in Virginia before Arnold and Cornwallis, but they did not. The whole Virginia government had to flee to Staunton (birthplace of my father and Woodrow Wilson, another civilian) in the Blue Ridge Valley. Jefferson stayed until the British were five minutes away. The Virginia House of Delegates unanimously passed a resolution saying that Jefferson’s conduct at the time was admirable.
source: THE LIFE OF THOMAS JEFFERSON, VOL.1 by Henry Stephens Randall, pages 352-359.
Come on Londra, gimme your source. And tell me what country you fought for, when, and where.
November 7th, 2009 at 3:07 amThere should be a new law in America. Anybody who’s in favor of war must put on a uniform and go to the front battle lines. And that includes chickenhawk Presidents and Vice-Presidents like Bush and Cheney.
November 7th, 2009 at 3:17 amI had a knock down; throw them out argument with my knuckle dragging brother years ago when we illegally went into Iraq. He claimed I was against the war because Bush was president. I said it was wrong irregardless of who was president. If Clinton was president at the time of 9/11 and he initiated the current war with Iraq, I’d disagree and protest Clinton’s decision as well. I hate war. The only result of war is dead bodies, devastated families, devastated countries, devastated economies, et al. However, as much as I despise war, those who serve deserve to be the recipients of their country’s utmost honor: to have their wounds and their family’s wounds fully healed.
To listen to those who cowardly avoid war profess to know what vets want is an additional assault on those who served.
November 7th, 2009 at 4:07 amThe exchange aside, we should take some time to think about what it is that Tancredo is proposing. Put vets out on the private market?
First, the high frequency of cranial injuries and mental health issues among soldiers returning home from Iraq and Afghanistan would likely make private insurance unattainable and unaffordable- no matter how big the voucher- without the types of regulation on the insurance industry that Republicans have opposed. Second, I’m not sure which veterans groups Mr Tancredo is speaking to, but The VA has consistently enjoyed higher patient satisfaction scores than any private provider.
But yeah, Tom had it coming.
November 7th, 2009 at 4:08 amOT —
To all my fellow veterans, as Veterans’ Day is coming up, may I be one of the first to say that I hohor your service.
To the chickenhawks… even though mama raised a gentleman, the only response to you is “Eat Shit”
Thank you for your kind attention.
November 7th, 2009 at 4:22 am@85 – let that say, “honor your service.”
November 7th, 2009 at 4:55 amDad-gum big fingers on a short keyboard….
For people who routinely question the patriotism of their fellow Americans, right-wingers are surprisingly thin-skinned.
Hating ACORN
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Markos was brilliant, as always!
November 7th, 2009 at 6:09 amIt’s funny, but Republicans are often too quick to wage war and too slow to participate in one. The list of GOP chickenhawks is incredibly loooong, starting with Bush and Cheney. For his service, Markos has much more credibility, in my book, than Tancredo or any of these chickenhawks.
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I have yet to talk to a vet that said they wish they were given vouchers instead of VA benefits.
I also don’t see any reason for someone to apologize for telling the truth. I realize being exposed as a coward is embarrasing, but that could have been circumvented by Tancredo not sticking his head in the sand when he had the chance not to years ago.
Markos is correct. The fascists don’t want the American people to have the chance to experience healhtcare like the rest of the industrialized world, because they know it will be as successful as Social Security and Medicare.
If profiteers don’t have a chance to get their hands on your money, they cannot buy that 5th vacation home.
November 7th, 2009 at 6:35 amIn the words of Captain Wander from the movie “Street Kings,” “You (Kos) fu(ked ‘em (Tancredo) up!”
November 7th, 2009 at 6:57 amShuster is wrong: Tancredo-style unhinged crazy is not “feisty” by any stretch of the imagination. Did Ed producers call Tancredo and ask him to come on the air for the sole purpose of defending those holocaust photos? Whether they did or not, Tancredo was a disgrace and a joke for taking the bait.
November 7th, 2009 at 7:02 amMarkos showed how you deal with repugs, forget the respectable rout (they think its weak) and tell it like it is and like cowards they will run away.
November 7th, 2009 at 7:08 amI like Big Ed but I don’t why he has that POS Tancredo on his show. That is a low grade of repug.
November 7th, 2009 at 7:09 amMy brother in law makes over $100 K per year, could get insurance from his employer, is eligible for Medicare — he chooses to continue to receive care through the VA because he is so satisfied at their total performance. I note he has had some delicate issues with his eyes that were a lifesaver.
November 7th, 2009 at 7:49 amOnce again, Tancredo showed that he is a coward. He can’t stand the heat so he picks up and toys and leaves, just like a child. This man thought he had presidential qualities. Like Sarah Palin, he is a quitter. Are there any real adults in the Republican Party? So far, all I’ve witnessed is people that behave like children.
November 7th, 2009 at 8:30 amlondra saysif they [oswald, mcvie] could get elected the fine, do you really think that would happen?
I’m certain they could get the republican nomination…
November 7th, 2009 at 8:38 amAs a wounded Vietnam combat vet (67-68) and who use’s the VA, I know of no vet who would give up the VA for any private plan. I will never have to worry about losing my health care if I get some high cost illness. I will never have to worry how I’m going to pay, or if I will lose my house, or bankrupt my family.
If the rest of the people in this country had any clue at how good the VA was, we would have single payer in a heartbeat.
November 7th, 2009 at 8:39 amMost people walking out on their jobs would be fired. So if Tom walked out during a paid interview, then should he be fired?
November 7th, 2009 at 8:41 amAnders says:
eh ? yeh, veterans are wonderfully taken care of, must be why they’re comitting suicide at record numbers.
They’re committing suicide in such great numbers because they spent mulitple tours seeing they comrades in arms killed, because they spent too many sunny afternoons sorting out body parts into piles for the next of kin at car bombing scenes, because when they come home they meet too many right wing idiots who think war is just like an episode from “Combat” you moran.
November 7th, 2009 at 8:41 amWho missed the procedures here? Everyone knows that Republican propaganda is supposed to pass without comment when it is regurgitated. It’s the polite thing to do. You wouldn’t say anything if someone threw up on your shoes, would you? You wouldn’t wave garlic and a cross at a vampire, would you? If Markos Moulitsas were more “polite”, Tom Tancredo could have hung around to lie some more, like Republicans believe to be their right.
Ah yes, yet another instance where we see that laughter is indeed the best medicine.
November 7th, 2009 at 8:42 amOh, and by the way, Tancredo’s advocacy of vouchers to cover private insurance is still paid for by the government with tax money. It’s just another of those little things that Republicans depend on folks not noticing.
November 7th, 2009 at 8:46 amBobwurst, don’t wast your time with slugs like Anders, they will never understand or care. I once had a guy tell me he knew what combat was like, because he had read a lot of books. Slugs like them have no idea and never will, so I found the best thing to do is ignore them.
November 7th, 2009 at 8:49 amWas Tancredo more upset about being called out for his depression or for his lies about the VA? Either way–he is a disgraced clown and a fool. The lesson of this whole sad episode was the fact that the people of Colorado once thought this idiot was capable of representing them.
November 7th, 2009 at 8:50 amIn the Past, Health Insurance WAS affordable. It was NONPROFIT (blue cross /blue shield, kaiser) and insurance employees and health care providers made a decent living.
Then Corporations Went for the Profits. They accomplished this by offering Lower Rates to Healthy People (Cherry Picking) and Denying Coverage for Pre Existing Conditions (Recision).
Health Insurance Corporations employed their staff to find ways to deny coverage, and cancel policies for those who needed it Most…sick people.
This forced the uninsured into the emergency rooms…where health care is Most Expensive…and Costs are shifted to everyone else. And the Uninsured postponed treatment until it became Critical…and more difficult and Expensive to treat.
The Health Care system went off the Rails…but Profits and Salaries for CEOs went thru the roof.
Congress is in session Right Now… Debating Health Care reform…and they Need to Fix this . Now.
November 7th, 2009 at 9:12 amAll repiggies lie.
It’s in their DNA.
Why would any of us ever want to vote for these liars?
They only look out for themselves and their corporate buddies.
Tancredo is a lying SOS.
November 7th, 2009 at 9:19 amTancredo’s voucher system is just another means of handing over tax dollars to private insurance. The GOP loves privatizing Government programs. Bush and Cheney even went as far as creating a “private army” to fight in Iraq. All those tax dollars that could be serving our veterans went to Blackwater. If Social Security had been privatized as Bush and Santorum wanted, the Wall Street crash would have cleaned out the account and seniors would have nothing to fall back on as they watched their retirements being wiped out by Wall Street greed. The GOP is the party of “tax and steal”. They try every way possible to hand over tax payers money to their corporate friends.
November 7th, 2009 at 9:22 amhttp://www.awolbush.com/whoserved.html
If you haven’t read/kept this site then you should take a look! Good list to use to shut up the chicken coop.
November 7th, 2009 at 9:25 amAfter I graduated college with my nursing degree, I went to work at the VA Hospital. I worked in the Addictions Unit. The vets received excellent care. The staff conducted themselves as caring professionals and there were always a sufficient number of staff available. It is true… there was a waiting list. Sometimes I wish that I had never left that job. Working for the VA Hospital was one of the best jobs I had. Even though I worked at a psychiatric hospital, I always felt safe.
The GOP has no shame. By placing a hold on further funding veterans benefits, it shows how immoral Republicans are.
November 7th, 2009 at 9:31 amljm… thanks for the link.
November 7th, 2009 at 9:37 amPaul the Sax Guy @#85
November 7th, 2009 at 9:44 amI don’t think I’d mind having my service hohored. If that means what I think it might>???!!
Thanks for the feedback, Cats r Flyfishn. The list is getting a bit old but it’s still very telling isn’t it? I don’t know if there’s an update. It just amazes me how one sided it is, particularly if you go all the way to the bottom. The talkers are in a fantasy world, I think.
November 7th, 2009 at 9:52 amwell, tom,
November 7th, 2009 at 9:53 amif you don’t want to be called out for being a hypocritical pussy-boy coward then don’t be a hypocritical pussyboy coward.
Folks this could turn out to be quite humorous. I can see Tom Tancredo’s current health insurer raising his rates or canceling him altogether for his admission of a pre-existing condition of depression. I don’t think anyone believes that he has disclosed this little fact to his current health care provider.
November 7th, 2009 at 10:23 amas a former congressman, tommy tanCRYdo has one of those “government run” healthcare policies he rallies against for the rest of his life. courtesy of the u.s. taxpayer
November 7th, 2009 at 10:35 amIf Tancredo ever runs for office again this will be a yummy piece of video to use in his opponents ad campaign.
November 7th, 2009 at 10:45 amOnce again chickenhawk Tancredo runs from a fight.
Tancredo is an advocate for small government (except for military and war issues). But check out his employment history.
1970 – 1976 Teacher, Drake Junior High School, Arvada CO.
1977 – 1982 Colorado State House of Representatives
1981 – 1993 Regional Director, U.S. Dept. of Education
1993 – 1998 President, Independence Institute, Golden CO.
1999 – 2009 U.S. House of Representatives
Up until he left Congress in January, Tancredo worked for about 39 years. For all but at most six of those years he worked in government.
November 7th, 2009 at 11:03 amPaul the Sax Guy, RUcerious – and all the other vets on TP – I humbly thank you for your service; I’m very grateful that you had the courage to put yourselves in harm’s way for me and the rest of your fellow Americans. Thank you from my heart.
And Paul TSG – some hot smokin’ awesome posts on this thread! BRAVO!!!
Love,
~A
November 7th, 2009 at 11:04 amYou libs have hit my last g damn nerve.
I was furious last night, racing back and forth in my basement. No wall went untouched.
Markos Molitsos is now #1 on my black list. Osama Bin Laden falls further down to #120.
We will cordone off anything about our past to prop up our agenda and reserve the right to mislead the American people into thinking that our special “private” interests will trickle down to them.
I am fed up.
I don’t care what rebuttal, what fact, what point you libs feel the need to make. Our status as chickenhawking, buddy-dealing bullshitters is none of your f ucking business.
I will now email Fox and demand they send Jesse Waters after him with a vengeance.
November 7th, 2009 at 11:05 amAnnie @119 – Thank you, dear. Every day there’s something on TP that gets my ire up, but Tommy the chickenhawk and his defenders just frankly piss me off.
OT – apparently we live pretty close together – I’m in Panorama City.
November 7th, 2009 at 11:18 amHF, hard to do that with your tail tucked between your legs.
November 7th, 2009 at 11:28 amWhat is “HF”? Some type of deferment?
November 7th, 2009 at 11:32 amOK, HF, here’s a retort, loser….
Kos may not speak for all vets, but he damn sure speaks for me.
Oh, and here’s a nice cup of STFU.
How’s that for a retort?
November 7th, 2009 at 11:34 amhf, tom was a coward durning nam and he has just shown that he’s still a coward. You must be one too.
It’s a solid retort. Just because you don’t like it means less than nothing. It’s the truth and I wouldn’t expect you to even get it for that reason alone.
November 7th, 2009 at 11:36 amOh, how cute… the trolls are voting us down.
Here, trolly trolly trolly….
November 7th, 2009 at 11:37 amHF says:
“democrats still scrambling for votes”
Cool headline…..
Sure, demblibs are the ones who can’t get their act out of the south. Please run with that.
November 7th, 2009 at 11:40 amHF is a proven racist who’s argued against race mixing, he says he hates the 9/11 families and he wants to drown the President.
Why would that be?
November 7th, 2009 at 11:43 amAt least Molitsos is a vet and can speak for many of them as it pertains to the overrall sound quality of the Va.
We’re just a bunch of ass-grabbbing chickenhawks “scrambling” for staff jobs at the pentagon to make up (read: look tough) for our pussified deferment days.
November 7th, 2009 at 11:43 amHe can’t, Jeffy. Tancredo’s a nutless, gutless incompetent coward.
Just like you.
November 7th, 2009 at 11:45 amSee, HF — there’s the difference – I find nothing in your post at 132 with which I disagree, except that Markos misspelled “mercenaries” in what was, no doubt, a simple typo.
I honor his service – when was yours?
November 7th, 2009 at 11:46 amHF means yellow from Head to Foot
November 7th, 2009 at 11:46 amFirst the troll claims the comment was impossible to locate; now he supposedly has the comment.
Is he trying to pass himself off as a Grade-A detective or are you libs rightfully seeing him as the prosecutor planting evidence?
Given your higher education levels, I’d vouch for the latter.
November 7th, 2009 at 11:47 amAnyone besides me find it interesting that the people who are out there defending the Republic party and their policies are not the sitting representatives, but the has been’s? The Republic party is having to dig pretty deep into its has been legislators to defend the indefensible.
November 7th, 2009 at 11:48 amName one lib poster who changed names besides YOU. Thank you in advance.
November 7th, 2009 at 11:49 amNever changed my name, and, HF – I’m one who tries never to post anything online that I wouldn’t say to a person’s face…
So here’s another cup of STFU
November 7th, 2009 at 11:49 amHF wants to change the subject now that he’s been pegged as as yellow.
Tom’s yellow too. that’s the subject of the thread troll.
November 7th, 2009 at 11:52 amRepercussions like a return to republican power that handed Wall Street unprecedented power and outsourced the military to folks paid several times more than your strategic corporal?
November 7th, 2009 at 11:53 amWimp Lo: “I’m bleeding, making me the victor!”
Master Tang: “Please forgive Wimp Lo. He is an idiot.”
November 7th, 2009 at 11:53 amI guess cowards just don’t see how ridiculous this sounds in light of the bush administration.
November 7th, 2009 at 11:53 amEver notice how unprepared right wing dooshbags such as Tancredo are compared to the likes of Markos and Rachel Maddow? It’s like going to an ice-pick fight and leaving your ice-pick home.
November 7th, 2009 at 11:54 am@146 – it’s you, asshat, that’s being voted down, not Kos’ comments. (and, I have to say, I did not vote down on that post, out of respect for the contents, not you.)
November 7th, 2009 at 11:55 amHF says:
You losers all supposedly agree with makos comment, but, you are voting it down to make it go away? Kinda strange…..
The comment already went away because it doesn’t exist. You’re ripe to be barred for prosecutorial misconduct.
November 7th, 2009 at 11:57 amHF, if you could comprehend the English language you would read your own posts here. Then you would understand strange.
A coward defending a coward on an internet blog. How gutsy and “rouge” of you. Mispelled intentionally.
November 7th, 2009 at 11:57 amJeffy Bovine: Dumbest troll on the web.
November 7th, 2009 at 11:57 amAnders says:
eh ? yeh, veterans are wonderfully taken care of, must be why they’re comitting suicide at record numbers.
I’m pretty sure you will find that those who have committed suicide were not under the care of the VA. The problem is that the Bush Administration has under funded the VA for years and there are now long waiting lists for vets to be able to receive care from the VA.
November 7th, 2009 at 11:58 amHF called us losers….heh.
Irony just fly’s over their heads.
November 7th, 2009 at 11:59 amLike they say Tancrapos,
Can’t take the heat…Get out of the kitchen!
And I see you did, you Lame Ass Whiner.
Go, Markos, Go! You did good work!
November 7th, 2009 at 12:02 pmHF says:
When did Bush invade Afghanistan?
The libs say we’re revisionist but we’re actually for erasing certain parts of history completely.
Good work.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:02 pmHF says:
I agree, “fred.” You defending markos is very “rouge.”
You attacking veterans while defending chickenhawks is very yellow patsy… ZZzz…
November 7th, 2009 at 12:04 pmHF, you’re just too quick witted for us. That last one was a real zinger. Did you have help?
November 7th, 2009 at 12:04 pmHF says:
I’m sure markos would like to make it go away or pin it on someone else, but, he can’t! It’s on the internet, forever!
I think you made the comment.
See, now I’m up to speed on your tactics. You’re a true mentor.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:05 pmHF says:
I’m sure markos would like to make it go away or pin it on someone else, but, he can’t! It’s on the internet, forever!
LOL! Ironic considering all of the sh!t you brown shirts have been caught saying! ;)
November 7th, 2009 at 12:05 pmSo what you’re saying is you didn’t know we were in Afghanistan before President Obama took over. BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
November 7th, 2009 at 12:05 pmHF says:
When did Bush invade Afghanistan?
And Republicans wonder why people “know” you are all “retards”? LOL!
November 7th, 2009 at 12:05 pmYou defending Keith Bardwell is very RACIST.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:06 pmHF, don’t you want to change the subject. Maybe the huge teabaggers rally where millions…..no, thousands….no, hundreds…..no,…..well, you know.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:06 pmHF says:
You losers all supposedly agree with makos comment, but, you are voting it down to make it go away? Kinda strange…..
So you agree with Tancredo the chickenhawk’s attack on a veteran, but say you support veterans? Kinda strange… But typical of they GOP hypocrites… ;)
November 7th, 2009 at 12:07 pmHF says:
factless, one of your jackboots is untied…..
Those are you boots patsy, you’re confused again… LOL! ;)
November 7th, 2009 at 12:08 pmYou really are dumber than the average troll. You believe the people who read Daily Kos have sympathy for the rapist/murderer types that work for Blackwater. If they had any integrity they would stay in the military and work for the government and follow the rules.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:09 pmHF says:
There are real repercussions to obamas folly.
Whilst the GOP believe there are no repercussions to Bush, Tancredo, Cheney or any other “fascist” politician’s follies! LOL! ;)
November 7th, 2009 at 12:09 pmI don’t know if we are smart enough to converse with HF. Did you see those last couple of retorts. I’m scorched by them. /snark
November 7th, 2009 at 12:10 pmHF says:
I see obama is on his way over to slap pelosi in line……
I see you are still under the impression we live in a “fascist” state! Could explain all of your stupid jackbooted remarks! LOL! ;)
November 7th, 2009 at 12:10 pmIf vets want care, they should stay on the Fidelity Green Line.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:11 pmPresident Obama isn’t a Republican, he doesn’t slap women. That’s the realm of cowards like Cheney and Tancredo.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:11 pmNo Shayne, the righties think mercenaries are members of that special group of “real Americans”
November 7th, 2009 at 12:11 pmHF says:
Nice retort, loser.
Patsy, always funny how you “only” can see yourself in your posts, yet remain clueless that it’s what you’re looking at! LOL! ;)
November 7th, 2009 at 12:12 pm@172 – yes, asshat – let’s change the subject – is this evidence of how you think you’ve “won?”
Why is it that the wingers tend to think in “win/lose” and zero-sum terminology?
Ah… must be because anything more advanced than binary answers causes meltdown.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:12 pmWhat the GOP REALLY means …
I thought you were in charge of these trolls. Do your job and make HF sound slightly less stupid please. The idiocy is hurting my head.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:13 pmHF says:
So, this asshat that calls himself “markos” claims to speak for all veterans? The same loser that said “screw ‘em?” Tancredo should have knocked that loser out on tv…….
Tancredo is the one that just offered to ’screw’ veterans with health care – Markos never said to screw “veterans” – You Lie!
November 7th, 2009 at 12:13 pmMadam blow up is going to slap you in line, moran.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:14 pmI want to give special thanks to HF(Jeffie) for this mornings display. It’s always good to have performances like this to show to moderates and even right leaning folk. They are always shocked.
You can tell them about it but until they actually see it, it’s hard for them to believe.
You do progressives a great service.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:14 pmHF says:
“democrats still scrambling for votes”
Cool headline…..
So you wouldn’t have liked it if it had read more accurately as GOP is still scrambling for votes to obstruct health care reform? ;)
November 7th, 2009 at 12:15 pmHF = Horsesh#t Flinger?
HF = Human Feces?
HF = Huge Failure?
Inquiring minds want to know.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:17 pmHF says:
Markos Moulitsas Zuniga of Daily Kos has done his best to make it hard to find the comment he posted on April 1, 2004, about the Americans who were torn apart and hung from a bridge in Fallujah. He erased it from the Google cache and the Internet Archive, and redirects the “permalink” on the page to an unrelated page at his site.
Because those where Republican “mercenaries” – you know blackwater – who were there to get paid? And not “soldiers”?
You claimed Markos attacked “soldiers” – when did that happen again?
Oh right. You “lied” again patsy! ;)
November 7th, 2009 at 12:17 pmShayne, I’ve erased my RNC performance reviews from the Internets Archive and teh Google Cache.
Afghanistan was not invaded, as you libs say. If the ‘Dead or Alive’ posters are built, they will come.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:17 pmI can see the problem with patsy, she’s like most of the GOP. She doesn’t actually know what a “veteran” is! LOL! ;)
November 7th, 2009 at 12:18 pmMichelle needs to investigate the VA patient list for unAmerican activities.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:20 pmPoor HF our little fascist patsy is so “retarded” she thought blackwater mercenaries were “veterans”? How “embarrassing” of her! Just when it seemed she couldn’t possibly look more stupid! LOL!
November 7th, 2009 at 12:21 pmHF,
Xe (formerly Blackwater) is pretty much the military arm of the Republican party, and are there because of Erik Prince’s dominionist beliefs.
Our soldiers, sailors, airmen and marines are there because they enlisted to defend our country.
Next?
November 7th, 2009 at 12:21 pmTom Tancredo ran off the set like a two year old child. Maybe he had to make a quick phone call to his mommy.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:24 pmTell us HF, did you serve? Or are you another “chickenhawk” attacking a “veteran” – Markos? Never mind. We “all” know you’re too big of a p*ssy to leave your momma’s basement! LOL! ;)
November 7th, 2009 at 12:25 pmHopeless fu(kup
November 7th, 2009 at 12:26 pmHumongous fool
St. Augustine @196 (love yer mama, St. Helena!), I vote for the latter.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:27 pmdelafield says:
Tom Tancredo ran off the set like a two year old child. Maybe he had to make a quick phone call to his mommy.
That’s how HF that patsy behaves. That’s how all of the Republican p*ssies behave. Rove nearly had a cow when he thought he was being called a liar by Dean – poor little p*ssy “liar”! This is why it’s important to get in the face of Republicans – they are by nature “fear” based and cowards! They’re bluffing, just like the little teabagging p*ssy that fell on the ground and claimed he’d been assaulted and appeared in a wheelchair at the next GOP rally.
GOP = coward faker
November 7th, 2009 at 12:28 pmSaint Augustine says:
Hopeless fu(kup
Humongous fool
Hasbeen Failure
Helpless Fat*ss
Those come to mind when I see teabaggers in general… ;)
November 7th, 2009 at 12:29 pmPosters who know Jeffy Bovine much better than I do have stated that he revealed over on the Olbermann stalking site that he extracts semen from horses for money.
HF = Horse Fluffer.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:30 pmHF says:
Markos Moulitsas Zuniga of Daily Kos has done his best to make it hard to find the comment he posted on April 1, 2004, about the Americans who were torn apart and hung from a bridge in Fallujah. He erased it from the Google cache and the Internet Archive, and redirects the “permalink” on the page to an unrelated page at his site.
Personally, I find it hard to believe that anyone can get something erased from the Google cache. I mean, the entire point of having the Google cache is to keep a permanent record of everything that gets posted on the internet. In fact, that’s how TP is able to show us stuff that got taken down later by the original posters, by finding the Google cache image of the page. (I have never heard of the “Internet Archive”, but I imagine it’s the same thing as the Google cache.)
Maybe the reason no one can find it is because it never happened? I don’t know, but that seems a far more reasonable explanation than that Kos was able to do something no one else can do.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:33 pmWhile it’s true that a majority of the people Blackwater/Xe hires are veterans, once they are employed by Blackwater/Xe, they are no longer properly called “soldiers” but “mercenaries”. And they should in no way be equated to our active duty soldiers, who put their lives on the line for love of country, not for love of money.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:36 pmHF says:
Markos Moulitsas Zuniga of Daily Kos has done his best to make it hard to find the comment he posted on April 1, 2004, about the Americans who were torn apart and hung from a bridge in Fallujah. He erased it from the Google cache and the Internet Archive, and redirects the “permalink” on the page to an unrelated page at his site.
Why would that be?
Plagiarism again patsy – that’s a “crime”.
How many times do we have to tell you to “use your own words”. Considering most of your posts are single line “childish” words – is it possible you don’t have enough of your own words to look like more than a 12 year old little boy/girl? LOL!
Stop committing crimes – jackbooted p*ssy!
November 7th, 2009 at 12:40 pmTrollspotter says:
Posters who know Jeffy Bovine much better than I do have stated that he revealed over on the Olbermann stalking site that he extracts semen from horses for money.
HF = Horse Fluffer.
LOL! You win!!! ;)
November 7th, 2009 at 12:42 pmBreaking: My party’s health care plan is “We’ll see.”
Brilliant!
November 7th, 2009 at 12:42 pmHorse Fawker
Stephen Colbert likes to get Fawked, too!
November 7th, 2009 at 12:49 pmwhat’s lgf? You never hear it on MSM like you do Think Progress.
November 7th, 2009 at 12:53 pmHF says:
Too bad you were banned from lgf! ;)
Too big of a p*ssy to admit you’re a criminal and a liar? LOL! Of course you are Horse Fluffer!
As for others posting at “lgf”, you still don’t understand how the inertubes work do you d**chebag? LOL! What a moron!
November 7th, 2009 at 12:54 pmFred says:
what’s lgf? You never hear it on MSM like you do Think Progress.
It’s the site she plagiarized and refused to give credit to. It’s where the search engine found her “plagiarism”. Patsy our stalker d**chebag still doesn’t get “search engines”! LOL! ;)
November 7th, 2009 at 12:56 pmCome one Horse Fluffer – why did you lie about a “real” veteran Markos while defending “fake” veterans – mercenaries? Chickenhawk much – fluffer?
You got nothing you useless d**chebag, just STFU like a good little house b*tch…
November 7th, 2009 at 12:57 pmI’d like to patty your cakes. Meet me in the office. It’ll be dark.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:01 pmHF, you’re funny. What have you done but make an ass of yourself here?
November 7th, 2009 at 1:02 pmHF says:
Oh, contraire!
That’s you, you’re contrary to the facts and defend mercenaries and chickenhawks while attacking veterans. P*ssy.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:05 pmHF says:
patty cakes, you’re desperation showing, again….
Jeffy bovine the horse fluffer, you’re desperation is showing, again. Along with your poor grammar, stupidity, hypocrisy, and lies where you “desperately” attacked a veteran by “lying”. But you got caught – liar. Next?
November 7th, 2009 at 1:06 pmHF – Horses Fanny
LOL!
November 7th, 2009 at 1:07 pmHF, I’ve seen no intelligent discourse from you, more than snarky rw talking points, no doubt courtesy of Beck, Limbaugh, and the rest.
All I’ve seen from you are off-topic out-of-context comments, snarky, indefensible social commentary, and no evidence that you ever swore the oath to defend your country that we veterans of the US military have.
If you have a cogent comment to make, and can defend your views, I’m certain that at least a few of us will engage you intelligently.
Ah, but there’s the rub — one cannot truly defend the indefensible.
I see your dilemma, and offer you another cup of STFU.
November 7th, 2009 at 1:10 pmI lived in Tommy Turdblossum Jr.’s district. The people that had any brain cells still turned on HATED this jerk.
Remember: He’s also the one that doesn’t believe in evolution as demonstrated when he was asked the group question in the 2008 Re-Thuglican debate-o-rama….
This guy is an ass and will always be so. Kos punked him good and I don’t expect Tommy Turdblssum to be showing his face anytime soon to be laughed off the stage…
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Mr. Duke @221, you got all your points from Messrs. Beck, O’Reilly and Limbaugh?
Explains a lot.
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@223, at least, thanks for the “kid” — going on 53.
I’ve seen the same things you have, and yet have a different perspective.
While LBJ may have been a Democrat, he was not a progressive.
The so-called liberal social programs, while not perfect by any standard, are anything but failure, as an objective view would reveal, but then again, the word is “objective”
November 7th, 2009 at 2:23 pmI agree Wayne. I don’t understand many things that are going on. I have learned that Obama is a player though and am glad he is on our side.
We do need the public option and I have to assume that it’s just too big a leap for Americans to make comfortably in one step.
I think the republicans worst fear is that what we do get will be the foot in the door to advancing eventually to a public option. On this, I hope they are correct in their fears.
November 7th, 2009 at 2:42 pmMarkos shamed Tancredo so the only thing Tancredo could do was to pull up his knickers and run off. It was either that or change the subject–as we see HF doing on this thread.
These SOB’s was too ashamed to face real vets and answer for their bullchit.
Good riddance–to both Tancredo and the troll.
November 7th, 2009 at 2:56 pmOh and now Mr. Dook is leaving his droppings (prevarications) on the thread.
Moving right along…
November 7th, 2009 at 2:59 pmHF @228 – I’m a real vet. Do you presume to question this?
November 7th, 2009 at 3:26 pmMarkos’ best line of the night:
“I’m not pretending anything. I told you straight up.”
Markos Moulitsas has something Tancredo doesn’t: Guts — something that spineless tw*t will never have.
November 7th, 2009 at 3:36 pmAgain the question remains, HF – when was your service? Dates and branch of service requested.
Oh, and….
STFU
November 7th, 2009 at 3:36 pmPtSG @ 231: How dare you impugn HF’s service! He is clearly a member of the Fighting Rightwing Keyboardist Battalion.
Unfortunately, you will never actually see a soldier of the FRKB as they are all stationed in their parents’ basements. However, I’m sure HF is wearing the official dress uniform complete with back flap and footies…unless he’s an officer in which case he will have the bunny ears as well.
November 7th, 2009 at 3:45 pmSpiff @ 232,
You owe me a keyboard – whiskey & salad spewed all over both! LOL
November 7th, 2009 at 3:47 pmumm… meant both keyboard and screen.
November 7th, 2009 at 3:49 pmHere’s an example for our chickenhawk trolls.
My beloved son-in-law, and father of my three beautiful grandsons, is a Gulf War Jr. vet, x2. He and my daughter are very conservative Republicans and, self-described born-again, spirit-filled Christians.
We can sit and discuss issues with respect, because we realize that each other has a different perspective.
Our chickenhawk trolls know nothing but reichwing talking points, and wait to respond until becky or limbaugh give them the points.
My kids can discuss our differences intelligently and coherently… I still disagree, but respect that their points are made from their own worldview.
So, HF, and the rest of you lily-livered cowards… can you articulate your views apart from that which are pronounced by the right-wing ideologues?
November 7th, 2009 at 4:36 pmThat was hilarious. Same thing happened to DOM G in Philly talk radio today. Except it was his show and he got schooled by a caller when DOM decided to blast Obama as commander in cheif and not going to Ft Hood today. Caller kept pushing Dom, “werent you old enough to serve in Vietnam?” Dom: Yes I was. Caller: well did you get a deferment? Dom: NO. Caller: Well you didnt get drafted? Dom: No. Caller: why didnt you serve? Dom: I was in college, Ive covered that. Caller:”WOW” Disconnect. I love it when the chickenhawks get called on thier cowardice. Which is exactly what they are. COWARDS. What else do you call someone who will send you or your sons and daughters to fight and die, when they themselves seek any way out.. Again…. Talk show hosts ==COWARDS.
November 7th, 2009 at 5:57 pmIsn’t all too typical that the chickenhawk claims to know best what the veterans and/or troops in action want? I hope Tancredo goes into another depression so deep that he will never be able to appear again on TV.
November 7th, 2009 at 6:15 pm@ 212. HF says: Oh, contraire! November 7th, 2009 at 12:58 pm
Uh, HorseFluffer, it’s only pronounced ‘oh contraire’; it’s High Church Frog and it’s written, “Au contraire” and it’s meaning is ‘on the contrary’.
It’s unfortunate that those Blackwater/Xe dudes got whacked in Fallujah, but they weren’t supposed to be there. I also would note that unlike our own, our Marines, our troopers, the private security types don’t seem to be inclined to make sure they bring everyone back from an operation.
But then again, the Blackwater/Xe boyos are just there for the paycheck and there’s no unit honor to be upheld. They’re even a disgrace to some of the other mercenary units, who actually practice soldiery for hire, rather than security guard with too many guns and too little sense.
November 7th, 2009 at 6:45 pmahhh the irony: IT BURNS!!
November 7th, 2009 at 7:16 pmJust like I said……..things are spinning out of control. Obama is as lost as anyone in government I have ever seen. Those radical book learned theory’s are meeting head long into reality and it ain’t pretty. Keep your cameras ready its going to get ugly! And I will be watching from my front porch high in the hills and laughing my assoff. Got your silver and gold hid good when the dollar crashes? Plenty of food, water and ammo? You poor bastids in the low lying areas of the big cities are screwed, if global warming don’t getcha, H1N1, might….or how about riots in the streets, burning buildings…….run……run to the hills!
November 7th, 2009 at 7:59 pmTancredo had a chance to feign injury and escape so he did it. That’s his way – always taking the easy way out. He could have stayed and lost fair and square, but then he would have learned something and that hurts, right Tancredo?
November 7th, 2009 at 8:05 pm240 SlappyBastinado says:
Your visions are just echoes of Bush world. They will pass. If not they have pills for that.
November 7th, 2009 at 8:11 pmI can’t believe I missed this, urrgggh!
November 7th, 2009 at 9:53 pmDidn’t he look stupid on DWTS, though?
The post-election GOP strategy: when faced with tough questions….LEAVE!! Haha lol.
November 7th, 2009 at 10:00 pmGood for Markos. Tom Tancredo is nothing but a coward who acts tough with other peoples children’s lives. This proves that he’s the punk that I always knew he was. He was too much of a coward to fight in Viet Nam, but he’s a war hawk now. I’m glad that punk walked off the set, because cowards don’t deserve to be heard when it comes to war or veterans. I’m a veteran and this coward makes me sick to my stomach every time I see his weak ass on TV. Why didn’t he have the nerve to get mad during Viet Nam. The punk was too busy trying a avoid the possibly of getting his a s s shot off. Dick-head Cheney is a coward bastard too, and he is always running his fat mouth about war. You didn’t see his coward a s s fighting for this country furing Viet Nam either. He’s a punk too, weak a s s, big mouth, no guts.
November 8th, 2009 at 12:19 amNovember 8th, 2009 at 12:49 am
http://tancredo.org/bio.html
November 8th, 2009 at 12:50 amMarkos was really good on the Ed Show. It was great to see Tancredo back off. His republican rhetoric was just too much to bear.
November 8th, 2009 at 11:01 pmSlappyBeggerino
Exactly what was the point of your spewing the ignorance you have been programmed with? Was it to highlight once more just hos incredibly stupid you are? We already know and there is no more pity for you here. Just STFU you will ALWAYS be a moron
November 9th, 2009 at 12:02 amOk HF you are stupid beyond belief. We all know so you can STFU now
November 9th, 2009 at 12:03 amWhy apologize? He said nothing but the truth.
November 9th, 2009 at 12:42 pmMarkos ROCKS! That was FABULOUS!
Tancredo is also a racist with a racist staff. Remember his little Korean racist assistant convicted THIS year of a hate crime, karate chopping a black woman in DC because she was BLACK – Marcus Epstein, NOT a Law Student at UVA. Just a criminal and a racist working for one.
Go YOU HUSKIES!
November 9th, 2009 at 2:10 pm