Hume Corrects O’Reilly’s False Claim That ‘Folks Don’t Want’ The Public Option: It’s Actually ‘Kind Of Popular’
Hume Corrects O’Reilly’s False Claim That ‘Folks Don’t Want’ The Public Option: It’s Actually ‘Kind Of Popular’
Last night on Fox News, host Bill O’Reilly and analyst Brit Hume discussed the prospects for the Senate passing a health care reform bill. After struggling with the terminology for the “public option,” O’Reilly ultimately concluded that “all the polls say” that “the folks don’t want it.”
Hume, a regular Fox News misinformer, surprisingly corrected O’Reilly, noting that Americans actually support the public option:
O’REILLY: They call it, you know, the public sector. What is the –
HUME: Public option, you mean?
O’REILLY: Public option, whatever. The folks don’t want it. … But it looks to me like they have maybe 55 votes to pass it. And that means they could be filibustered and never come up for a vote.
HUME: That’s what it looks like right now. The public option, actually some polls show that the public option standing by itself is not at all unpopular, but it is kind of popular. But that depends on how the poll question is raised. … We don’t need to go into all that right now.
Watch it:
Those trying to derail reform with a public option try to claim that Americans don’t support it. “All the polls now indicate substantial opposition to this particular type of health care reform,” Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) said last night on Fox. But Hume is right. Americans do support the public option, as recent polling shows:
– CNN/Opinion Research, Oct. 30 – Nov. 1: 55 percent support “creating a public health insurance option administered by the federal government that would compete with plans offered by private health insurance companies.”
– Ipsos/McClatchy, Oct. 30 – Nov. 1: 51 percent support the “creation of a public entity to directly compete with existing health insurance companies.”
Other recent polls, such as USA Today/Gallup and Washington Post/ABC News, have found majority support for the public option — results that are consistent with other polling on this question throughout the health care debate this year.
Indeed, large majorities in Connecticut support the public option but Sen. Joe Lieberman (I-CT), the state’s junior independent senator, has repeatedly said he will filibuster any bill that contains a public option. Like Hume, Lieberman doesn’t want to talk about polling support for the public option either, reportedly saying that poll respondents are simply “confused.”
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Of course, to O’Reilly… “folks” or “people” is defined as conservatives who are either fantastically wealthy and can afford to pay for decent health insurance coverage…or people who rely on FoxNews and believe the public option will rape their children at night and turn America into a nazi-socailist-fascist-communist-marxist-totalitarian FEMA run death camp.
November 10th, 2009 at 12:43 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Lieberman doesn’t want to talk about polling support for the public option either, reportedly saying that poll respondents are simply “confused.”
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I look for this to be the new way Republicans explain away any poll results that don’t fit their agenda. Just claim that the poll respondents are “confused”. And if that doesn’t work, claim they’re “misinformed”, or even “stupid”.
Unfortunately, that can work both ways. We could say the same thing about the forty-something percent of poll respondents who say they don’t want a public option.
But we know that labeling the majority of the American public as “confused” doesn’t do much to win them over. It just makes one look pompous and arrogant.
Lieberman really doesn’t plan to run again, does he? I can think of no other reason for him to burn so many bridges.
November 10th, 2009 at 12:49 pmnot so long ago 51% was a mandate.
November 10th, 2009 at 12:50 pmWhat do Iraq and the United States have in common?
Republicans don’t want to listen to the will of the majority of the people.
November 10th, 2009 at 12:51 pmHume! Say it isn’t so? You actually reported the TRUTH! What will the ‘Tea-Baggers’ say? Get ready for the angry mob armed with fire and pitchforks.
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HUME: That’s what it looks like right now. The public option, actually some polls show that the public option standing by itself is not at all unpopular, but it is kind of popular. But that depends on how the poll question is raised. … We don’t need to go into all that right now.
Of course we don’t need to go into all that right now because that’s the truth and we’re on Fox after all.
November 10th, 2009 at 12:55 pmHF says:
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I found a poll on freerepublic.com that states 99% of the posters there do not want the public option. Take that, Mr. Hume!
November 10th, 2009 at 12:46 pm
No one cares what inter family marriage people think , turd …..
November 10th, 2009 at 12:55 pmO’Reilly, Lieberman, et al, are going to keep repeating the lie because they think that eventually people will believe the lie. I think Lieberman needs a reality check by his constituents who need to be heard rather than ignored. It is up to the media in Connecticut to bring Lieberman to heel on the issue rather than the other way around. He will find it very difficult to swim against the tide of public opinion.
November 10th, 2009 at 12:55 pmShorter Bellow Loudly: My boss Murdoch is all for pillaging the people and so am I.
November 10th, 2009 at 12:56 pmLondra kulesi muhaf?z? says:
Dunn leaving White House, Pfeiffer takes over
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You didn’t read on…..
The passing of the baton from Dunn to Pfeiffer had long been expected within White House circles as she had made clear when she took the job that the “interim” in her title was meant to be taken literally.
November 10th, 2009 at 12:56 pmHUME: But that depends on how the poll question is raised. … We don’t need to go into all that right now.
Hume trying to give Bildo an out for being so damn stupid.
I love it!
November 10th, 2009 at 12:57 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
HF says: I want my health insurance to go up 120% every 8-10 years so those poor long suffering share holders can fritter my money away!!
November 10th, 2009 at 12:58 pmLondra kulesi muhaf?z? says:
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OT., But it appears thet Fox and Beck have another scalp!
Dunn leaving White House, Pfeiffer takes over
White House communications director Anita Dunn will step down from her post at the end of the month and Dan Pfeiffer, her deputy, will take over, according to sources familiar with the move.
November 10th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
Dunn took the job on an interim basis about six months ago you moronic speck , so keep that tiny thing in your pants ……..
November 10th, 2009 at 12:58 pmIt’s not cool to hijack anyone’s name.
Just sayin’…
November 10th, 2009 at 12:59 pmHF: We can only be free by being drug over the coals by MBAs!!
November 10th, 2009 at 12:59 pmLondra kulesi muhaf?z? says:
OT., But it appears thet Fox and Beck have another scalp!
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So, we are glad to see you are not afraid to admit that Fox has an agenda.
November 10th, 2009 at 12:59 pmHF says:
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MCMetal says:
No one cares what inter family marriage people think
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It’s not our fault what our parents did to conceive us.
November 10th, 2009 at 12:57 pm
No one claimed it was ; but it is your fault for continuing the practice …………
November 10th, 2009 at 1:00 pm“We don’t need to go into all that right now”? When would be a good time, Brit When you and your GOP colleagues have killed reform?
http://www.political-buzz.com/
November 10th, 2009 at 1:00 pmIts not cool to stalk people either
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Londra, just like Fox news never lets the truth get in the way of a story. Especially a partisan one
November 10th, 2009 at 1:01 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
The question, why did Brit Hume take the trouble to correct O’Lielly’s misinformation? What’s the upside? I mean, it’s not as if ol’ Brit has any credibility he needs to protect.
Oh, and whoever’s name-jacking Twajie’s latest pathetic sockpuppet?
You don’t need to.
November 10th, 2009 at 1:01 pmLondra kulesi muhaf?z? says:
OT., But it appears thet Fox and Beck have another scalp!
Too bad they dont have a cranium along with a brain to place it on
November 10th, 2009 at 1:02 pmConservatives are so ridiculous. Vitter wears diapers while sucking on a prostitute’s toes. Ensign has an affair with a staffers wife and gets his parents to pay hush money. Craig cruises for blow-jobs in mens’ bathrooms.
No departures for them and none demanded by their constituents.
A staffer at Obama’s White House tells the truth, takes some crap and resigns and they’re all doing touchdown dances. They are their own parodies. SNL doesn’t have to touch them. They’re ridiculous and funny all by themselves.
November 10th, 2009 at 1:04 pmHF says:
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MCMetal says:
but it is your fault for continuing the practice
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We don’t know any better.
November 10th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
Then you shouldn’t be having kids ; carrying on someone’s stupid name isn’t reason to bring children into the world ……That’s totally selfish and completely irresponsible
November 10th, 2009 at 1:06 pmIt was never supposed to be called a public option.
O’Really must be thinking of the ‘pubic option’ as he grabs the phone.
This should have been labeled universal instead of public.
The fact O’Really is lying is hardly news; he does if for a living.
November 10th, 2009 at 1:06 pmO’lielly is lobbying for a single loofah option ………
November 10th, 2009 at 1:08 pmO’LIElly the falafel sexual predator pervert is a dolt.
LIEbermann is a scum bag.
HF is immature moron.
November 10th, 2009 at 1:12 pmIf Hume is going to be making this a habit , he’s going to be awfully busy for the rest of his and/or O’Lielly’s TV life …..
November 10th, 2009 at 1:12 pmHF; were you born a dumbass or did you go to school
November 10th, 2009 at 1:14 pmtonjy and lido
Of note, Hume was a one-time protege of Jack Anderson who won a Pulitzer for exposing secret negotiations between the U.S. and Pakistan during the Indo-Pakistani war in the early 70s. He also broke Iran Contra, and generally was a progressive muckraker who investigated government corruption. Anderson in turn was a protege of Drew Pearson an early loan voice against McCarthy (incidentally, Greta van Susteren’s father was McCarthy’s campaign manager).
For Hume maybe he learned a little bit with Anderson before Murdochian fithly lucre and sometimes does the right thing.
November 10th, 2009 at 1:14 pmWhao… what’s gotten in Brit?
Boss Limbaugh ain’t gonna like this…
November 10th, 2009 at 1:14 pmRight-wingers do this all the time. With their ample egos, they see themselves as the definitve center of everything, and not the creepy minority they really are.
November 10th, 2009 at 1:18 pmOnly so long as the coals are mined on behalf of Massey Energy.
November 10th, 2009 at 1:19 pmLondra kulesi muhaf?z? says:
OT., But it appears thet Fox and Beck have another scalp!
AN INTERIM BASIS…
Of course, there’s always the very real possibility that Fox & Beck didn’t have anything to do with it, huh?
November 10th, 2009 at 1:20 pmI’ll bet our friend Londra used to celebrate his achievement when, after giving the substitute teacher a hard time (shooting spitballs, claiming that they don’t have assigned seats, signing “Dick Hertz” on the attendance sheet), his regular teacher returned the very next day.
It had to be Londra’s “protests” that caused the sub to resign, right?
November 10th, 2009 at 1:25 pmThe question, why did Brit Hume take the trouble to correct O’Lielly’s misinformation? What’s the upside? I mean, it’s not as if ol’ Brit has any credibility he needs to protect.
In desperation seeking some credibility?
November 10th, 2009 at 1:28 pmpoll respondents are simply “confused.”
boy, i’ll say…
if people were educated with the FACTS, those percentages
would probably be in the 90% range…
… and the deal would be done by now…
November 10th, 2009 at 1:30 pm– CNN/Opinion Research, Oct. 30 – Nov. 1: 55 percent support “creating a public health insurance option administered by the federal government that would compete with plans offered by private health insurance companies.”
“What insurance companies want is to stave off the one thing that truly intimidates them: having to compete on a level playing field against a public health insurance plan. Knowing that we will have the ability to walk away from the private insurance industry altogether if they keep abusing our trust is what frightens them, and what might just scare them straight in the future.” By Monica Sanchez @ insurancecompanyrules.org
But with the mandate for everyone to purchase Sickness & Injury Insurance, we will be creating millions of new forced customers for the S&I Insurance industry.
We may be reforming some rules, but we’re creating a huge “GOLDEN EGG” for the S&I Insurance industry.
We need to put a stake in the heart of the predatory, obsolete, yearly S&I Insurance industry. Let it go the way of the Buggy Whip and Slide Rule industries!
“There is nothing so difficult in all human affairs as to change the established order of things….. Because those who have it are certain of what they will lose, and those who will gain are uncertain of their advance.” – President Bill Clinton – NetRoots
November 10th, 2009 at 1:32 pmkaty, exactly right. But if people were educated with the facts, they wouldn’t be watching Fux, would they?
November 10th, 2009 at 1:33 pmGoes to show you that Rupe’s minions are as still as stupid as ever..
Let’s see, Billo-the-Clown can’t read so Brit has to tell him what the weekly reader page says, then Billo-the-Clown sprays drano in his ears to make sure they’re clean so he can hear, then tells Brit that he thinks he’s wrong but Brit tells Billo-the-clown that he should be paying attention more but Billo-the-clown has a an alleged ADD problem and can’t pay attention so he starts talking about Sarah Palin and Beck but Brit tries to pull him back to the original conversation about the Public Option in Health care but Billo-the-clown can’t remember so they have to move on with Lufas…
November 10th, 2009 at 1:36 pmtrue that, jane…
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hey, um… what’s goin’ on here?
first hume, then the child trooll @15 correcting the record?
well, good on ‘em…
November 10th, 2009 at 1:36 pmHF, are you a masochist?
C’mon take the bait…
November 10th, 2009 at 1:37 pmWhat he really means is: “The people are for the public option, but the insurance companies are against it. The people only gave me their vote. The insurance companies give me their money.”
November 10th, 2009 at 1:47 pmliberman is against the public option because he and his wife benefited greatly from big insurance in his state. He has gotten millions over the years.
http://salon.com/news/opinion/joe_conason/2009/10/29/joe_lieberman/index.html
November 10th, 2009 at 1:52 pmFOX is a Murdoch blow up doll factory
November 10th, 2009 at 1:52 pmut that depends on how the poll question is raised.
Right Britt. When the question is “Do you want a forced government insurance program, where the the government can kill your grandma?” then it’s not very popular. But when it’s “Do you favor a government insurance plan to guarantee coverage to all American’s and to keep private health insurance companies honest?” then it’s actually very popular.
It’s pretty clear which poll Billo is referring to.
November 10th, 2009 at 1:57 pmvinylspear says:
HF, are you a masochist?
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I’m a submissive.
November 10th, 2009 at 1:58 pmFreebies, entitlements, giveaways are always popular. Especially when someone else is paying the bill.
November 10th, 2009 at 2:09 pmHume says ” But that depends on how the poll question is raised. … We don’t need to go into all that right now.”…well how appropriate since fox news star frank luntz is the king of push polling re; health reform. He is the master in dictating what talking points and buzz words to be used by rethugs to turn the imbecile teabaggers against health care reform Fox news….the goebbels network of the 21st century
November 10th, 2009 at 2:16 pmHF admits that his family tree grows straight up with no branches….that explains a lot.
November 10th, 2009 at 2:21 pm“…fox news star frank luntz is the king of push polling…”
Right now in my area I’m seeing TV ads for some sort of business/marketing seminars in CT, at which Luntz is one of the featured speakers. Hmmm, maybe I can get my boss to send Wayne and I, I’d love to hear what kind of buzzwords Luntz thinks that businesses should use. :(
November 10th, 2009 at 2:24 pmMr.Duke says:
Freebies, entitlements, giveaways are always popular.
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I agree! We need to encourage fellow conservatives to STOP using medicare! That’s the ticket!
November 10th, 2009 at 2:28 pm“I look for this to be the new way Republicans explain away any poll results that don’t fit their agenda.”
I think you can swap out Republicans with “we all” and their with “our”.
He says in some polls. He doesn’t say in all polls, which would, to a logical person, indicate that there are polls that represent that it is both popular and unpopular. So rather than continually feeding the divisive beast that is our current political heritage, why not just see that we all may actually want, intrinsically, the same things. Painting one another with a wide brush because of the dictates of those whom are supposed to represent us is ignorant at best.
To me that is some of the power that the governing bodies hold is that they can continually divide us instead of us being “one nation, under God, indivisible…”
We seem to get so caught up in how the messages and meanings are interpreted by the pundits ON BOTH SIDES that we fail to really try and understand the opposing viewpoint.
We refuse to listen, and that denies us the overall success I think we all want.
November 10th, 2009 at 2:30 pmEspecially when someone else is paying the bill.
November 10th, 2009 at 2:41 pm—-
Have you considered stocking up on canned goods and firearms?
Mr.Duke says, “Freebies, entitlements, giveaways are always popular. Especially when someone else is paying the bill.”
You must be refering to Wall Street bankers like Lloyd Blankfein, Hank Greenberg, and Bernard Madoff. They received trillions of freebie dollars over the last 12 months.
November 10th, 2009 at 2:44 pmI look and listed to what is going on around me and come to the following conclusion: If I had no family here in CA I would be on the first airplane to Spain as an expat. Repukes have NO IDEA of how much they’re being “played” by the media and their own party. I have traveled all over the world and have observed the steady decline of the US. The “bickering” has gotten very divisive and nasty. Pretty soon we’re going to be a third-world country as in Mexico or the Phillippines.
November 10th, 2009 at 3:18 pmGuzman has filed a complaint against News Corporation, the New York Post and the paper’s editor in chief Col Allan in the Southern District Court of New York, alleging harassment as well as “unlawful employment practices and retaliation.”
As part of the 38-page complaint, Guzman paints the Post newsroom as a male-dominated frat house and Allan in particular as sexist, offensive and domineering. Guzman alleges that she and others were routinely subjugated to misogynistic behavior. She says that hiring practices at the paper — as well as her firing — were driven by racial prejudices rather than merit.
NY POST is a Murdoch paper. Anyone surprised they behave like Falafel O’Reilly does toward women?
November 10th, 2009 at 3:25 pmBrian OC –
I agree with what you are saying, yet to place the sole measure of accountability on the “Repukes” is only half of it. It isn’t just the repubs that are but the dems as well. Anyone who says otherwise has their head in the sand.
November 10th, 2009 at 3:55 pm“…to place the sole measure of accountability on the “Repukes” is only half of it…”
No, it’s probably closer to 3/4 of it.
November 10th, 2009 at 6:00 pmIt’s okay. Fox doesn’t need to lie about healthcare anymore. Pelosi delivered to corporate wealthcare in a big way.
November 10th, 2009 at 7:40 pmI’m surprised Hume’s correction of Billo was audible, as the Wizard was sure to breathe fire on him and chase him from the set for just making him cackle inside his head at the thought of disagreement with neocon disillusionment.
November 10th, 2009 at 8:02 pmRemember, FOX News recently won a court decision in which they fervently fought for the right to intentionally lie, distort the facts, and mislead their audience.
November 10th, 2009 at 8:05 pmAnd Beck had previously acknowledge that he, Hannity, and O’Reilly are not journalists or reporters (”I’m a commentator”), and therefore they are not beholden to the guidelines of journalistic integrity and ethics and are free to make crap up.
Why? Hasn’t he been ordered by Murdoch as well as Armey to go and propagandize the idiots watching FoxNoise and convince them that this will lead to …gasp….”SOCIALISM” and to defeat it so that Armey, their corporate master, can help the “good” insurance companies keep making big profits?
November 10th, 2009 at 8:19 pmAnd this is news how?
November 10th, 2009 at 8:21 pmThe only people that want a public option are libs.
November 10th, 2009 at 8:22 pmcg, either you’re full of shit, or the majority of the country is liberal, because all polling says anywhere from 51% up to about 60% of people are for the public option. Which is it?
Besides, real libs want universal single-payer healthcare, not some half-assed public option.
November 10th, 2009 at 9:24 pmhttp://www.examiner.com/x-5738-Political-Buzz-Examiner~y2009m11d11-VIDEO–Jon-Stewart-catches-Sean-Hannity-passing-off-912-Tea-Party-footage-for-Bachmann-protest
November 11th, 2009 at 2:26 amHume’s correction was lame and I wonder why such praise. I don’t think he deserves all the accolades or attention he is getting for “standing up”. A badge of courage for Hume, I don’t think so.
November 11th, 2009 at 9:13 amHF made the following statement, “I hate it when reality does not back up a good talking point.” I see nothing wrong with it. The reality in question, polling data, certainly doesn’t back up O’Reilly’s talking point. It’s sort of like Huxley’s (Darwin’s bulldog) observation about a beautiful theory being spoiled by an ugly fact.
The reactionaries have a whole bunch of “beautiful” talking points, but unfortunately for them, reality doesn’t concur with the talking points and they have to keep changing them to keep ahead of reality. Again, sort of like Darwin’s statement that change was brought about by selection against things that don’t work.
November 11th, 2009 at 12:23 pmWill someone explain to me why there is so much hostility towards HF? All the comments being voted down are supporting the progressive points of view. Is this message board turning into another Politico?
November 11th, 2009 at 12:37 pmMr Duke
Lying, ignorance, and stupidity are always popular with you brainwashed morons. Just STFU. You are too stupid to be in an adult conversation
November 12th, 2009 at 8:08 amConservaTROLL
You are a LIAR. Kill yourself. You disgust all decent human beings
November 12th, 2009 at 8:09 am