Pat Robertson on Ft. Hood: Islam is ‘not a religion’ and Muslims should be treated like ‘some fascist group.’
Pat Robertson on Ft. Hood: Islam is ‘not a religion’ and Muslims should be treated like ‘some fascist group.’
This past weekend, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano warned against allowing “anti-Muslim sentiment” to emanate from the shooting at Fort Hood by Major Nidal Malik Hasan. But that is exactly what some conservatives are doing. Dave Gaubatz, the controversial author of the controversial Muslim Mafia, called yesterday for “a professional and legal backlash against the Muslim community and their leaders.” On his 700 Club TV show yesterday, Pat Robertson claimed that Islam is “not a religion,” but “a violent political system bent on the overthrow of the governments of the world and world domination”:
ROBERTSON: That is the ultimate aim. And they talk about infidels and all this, but the truth is that’s what the game is. So you are dealing with not a religion. You’re dealing with a political system. And I think we should treat it as such and treat its adherences as such as we would members of the Communist Party or members of some fascist group. Well, it’s a tragedy. Our hearts go out to the families who suffered. But those in the Army should be held on account for the fact they let this man loose.
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Anti-Islam rhetoric is nothing new for Robertson. He has previously called it “a violent religion” and “a political system…bent on world domination.”
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Oh my. And people actually listen to this guy?
November 10th, 2009 at 10:03 amSounds like the Family on C Street, just replace “Islam” with “the Family”:
“I want to say it again, and again, and again: The Family is not a religion, it is a political system meant on — bent on world domination, not a religion. It masquerades as a religion, but the religion covers a worldwide attempt to exercise power and to subjugate the world to their way of thinking.”
November 10th, 2009 at 10:05 amOMG! Is this guy nuts? There are BILLIONS of Muslims! In fact, only a small percentage are radicals. Nothing like offending BILLIONS of people Pat! I need a drink.
November 10th, 2009 at 10:05 amIt sounds like he was talking about this!
November 10th, 2009 at 10:06 amFunny, isn’t it, Pat? I feel *exactly* the same way about you and your nutjob fellow “Christians!
Who knew???
November 10th, 2009 at 10:06 amIt scares me that someone with so much hate in their soul can claim to be a Man of God
November 10th, 2009 at 10:06 amPat Robertson is one of the real fascists out there, so he should know all about fascism.
All religion seems crazy and stupid these days, with bullies, thugs and all-around a-holes in charge of “keeping the faith.”
The average Becksturbator is a holy roller, and look at how screwed up and nasty they are.
November 10th, 2009 at 10:07 amI happen to think Pat Robertson’s “religion” is not a religion, but rather, a cult.
Christofascist a-hole.
November 10th, 2009 at 10:07 amSaint Augustine, great minds think alike…and so do we!
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November 10th, 2009 at 10:07 amIf you want to know how a man views the world, ask him to describe his enemies.
November 10th, 2009 at 10:08 amHF is the typical holy roller a-hole who pushes and bullies on this site, while he really could be out doing the work of Jesus.
Oh well…
So much for faith…
Keep telling the lies, Holy F**kwad.
November 10th, 2009 at 10:09 amSo sayeth the man:
Who believed gays and feminists caused the September 11th attacks. Who prayed for the deaths of Supreme Court justices. Who supported the butchers of Liberia and Zaire (Charles Taylor and Mobutu) through the financing of blood diamonds. Who advocated launching a nuclear weapon against the State Department. Who supported mandatory abortions in China. Who believed Ariel Sharon’s stroke was the result of the Gaza withdrawal.
Tell me Marion, can you honestly say that YOU are a man of peace? And not a hatemongering fascist and supporter of the same?
November 10th, 2009 at 10:09 amWell Pat, you do know that you and your pals are as big or bigger extremist then the ones you are talking about. Shaking my head yes you are up on top of the list why there is this terrorist war going on.
November 10th, 2009 at 10:09 amThis man is NOT a man of god, not a Christian or anything close. If there by some slim chance is a HELL he will be there. (I don’t believe in hell but for some folks there should be one.)
November 10th, 2009 at 10:11 amYes.
November 10th, 2009 at 10:11 am@17, Now you are just getting really creepy.
November 10th, 2009 at 10:11 amAren’t progressives “anti-Christian?”
Yes, by the same measure and to the same extent that “Christians” have stopped following the teachings of Christ.
I have found that self-professed Pagans follow Christ’s teachings more closely than those who call themselves “Christian.”
November 10th, 2009 at 10:13 amI just got here so can someone clue me in? Are we just ignoring Twajie’s latest sockpuppet?
Seems like a good plan to me.
November 10th, 2009 at 10:13 amHey, what about them (c)hristo-fascists???
November 10th, 2009 at 10:13 amFirst Romans, then Crusaders and now Televangelists.
Why can’t we just mind our own damn business?
If any one of the 3 Abrahamic religions can prove ‘their’ God exists, I’ll change my opinion.
To date, none of them have any substantive proof of this existence other than zealots writing stories about rumors handed down verbally over generations.
If abortions become illegal, so should religion.
November 10th, 2009 at 10:13 amI see you voted me down HF, But thinking good ole Pat has a pretty mouth is just too damn weird.
November 10th, 2009 at 10:13 amPat Robertson’s daddy, Senator Wiley Robertson of Virginia, kept little Pat out of harm’s way during the Koren War.
Little Jr. was the liquor officer who stayed in Japan to make sure the beer keep going to the grunts actually doing the fighting in Korea.
And that lying POS claims to be a “veteran” of the Korean War?
By the way, the old creep was doing the cha-cha with his wife before they were married, citing their sex was okay with Jesus because they had personally promised themselves to each other.
He wants people jailed for less these days.
November 10th, 2009 at 10:14 amIt’s really a travesty that there isn’t an afterlife just so dipshits like this could die and realize what a farce their entire life has been.
November 10th, 2009 at 10:15 amZimzone says:To date, none of them have any substantive proof of this existence other than zealots writing stories about rumors handed down verbally over generations.
If abortions become illegal, so should religion.
I think i can back that motion.
November 10th, 2009 at 10:15 amPat’s really outdone himself– blasted not only Muslims the world over, but the army as well. Guess he hates the troops, too.
November 10th, 2009 at 10:15 amNot only do the gullible listen to this demagogue, they send money, and they repeat his lies and propaganda to their friends.
I thought this guy was going to retire – he can’t get off the stage soon enough.
Islam is not a religion? There is something drastically wrong with this man.
November 10th, 2009 at 10:17 amIMO, all organized religion is a crock — all of them have an agenda.
Okay, this may be a silly question, and is off topic, but…
Does Twajie have a job?
A life?
No offense, but even our hardcore TP main stayers don’t post 15-18 hours per day.
November 10th, 2009 at 10:17 amRalph, it’s a damn fine plan.
DRxJ,
I don’t throw the term “fascist” around lightly, but compare the statements of Robertson to self-described Christofascists like Englebert Dollfuss. Surpression of dissent, state-mandated Christianity, making unions illegal, open hostilities to outside forces…
November 10th, 2009 at 10:17 amIt’s hard to distinguish Robertson’s empire from Murdoch’s these days.
Who’s winning the hearts and (non)minds of the holy rollers and Becksturbators?
November 10th, 2009 at 10:17 amAs is Rat Pobertson’s brand of XianFundism isn’t a political system, bent on mind control and trying to foist a Theocracy on us???
November 10th, 2009 at 10:18 amIt’s really a travesty that there isn’t an afterlife just so dipshits like this could die and realize what a farce their entire life has been.
Then again, maybe the folks who believe in reincarnation are right. In that case, it is likely he’ll be reincarnated as a dung beetle.
November 10th, 2009 at 10:18 amI never listen to a word Pat Robertson spews (he is as much a radical as anyone can be) BUT I have to agree with this last sentence of the stated quote:
“But those in the Army should be held on account for the fact they let this man loose.”
I have very strong feelings about why the Army did not let this man go. I am not excusing Hasan nor am I a “bleeding heart” but I just do not get why the Army persisted in refusing Hasan’s requests to be released from military duty. There used to be something call “conscience objector” is that no longer applicable in today’s military?
November 10th, 2009 at 10:19 amDoes Twajie have a job?
At $0.25 per post, the little moron has to keep “dancing as fast as she can”.
November 10th, 2009 at 10:19 amMarie says: Islam is not a religion? There is something drastically wrong with this man.
IMO, all organized religion is a crock — all of them have an agenda.
have to agree with you.
November 10th, 2009 at 10:19 amBriseadh na Faire says:
it is likely he’ll be reincarnated as a dung beetle.
Or a tufted titmouse!
November 10th, 2009 at 10:19 amEvangelicalism is the fastest growing mental illness in this nation.
It is elective behavior, and it can be remedied with therapy.
November 10th, 2009 at 10:20 amSo HF really likes Pat’s mouth, eh? NOT surprising. Take a look at this.
Another conservative sex freak gets caught. What a sad, lonely bunch they are.
November 10th, 2009 at 10:21 amIt is as much a religion as Televangelism and religious rightwing taliban, Pat. Shut your pie hole.
November 10th, 2009 at 10:21 amPatsy, don’t you have a 2.500 lb leg lift to do somewhere.
November 10th, 2009 at 10:21 amOn tv..
Live???
@31, I don’t really give a rat’s ass WHO voted me down you ignorant troll. You are just down-right creepy. Only a whack would say something like that.
November 10th, 2009 at 10:21 amBEND OVER AND FEEEEEEL THE POWER OF JESUS!!!!
November 10th, 2009 at 10:22 am(Larry Craig’s motto)
I’m a bit confused…Was Robertson talking about the fanatical Muslim religion or the fanatical Christian religion?
I mean seriously the only difference is the beards, clothes, language, skin tone and location and God, other then that sections of both religions contain radicals, extremists and zealots and both push their ideology down others throats.
November 10th, 2009 at 10:23 amGeez Liz Morrison,
November 10th, 2009 at 10:23 amThat’s just plan creepy!
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But those in the Army should be held on account for the fact they let this man loose.
Leave it to the Wingnut’s to turn on the military.
Hell, they’ve turned ON EVERY OTHER GROUP which supports them.
Why does Pat hate America?
November 10th, 2009 at 10:24 amHyperFart: unfortunately you’re far too stupid to understand that I loathe ALL religious extremists - Muslims, Jews, Christians – you name it.
It’s not the religion itself that I hate – it’s the extremists (like Al Qaeda and Pat Robertson) who use their religion/god as an excuse for their hatred, bigotry and murder.
If there were Buddhists who wanted to kill in the name of Buddha – I’d loathe them too.
November 10th, 2009 at 10:25 amHe is one nasty old creep.
November 10th, 2009 at 10:26 amPat Robertson claimed that Islam is “not a religion,” but “a violent political system bent on the overthrow of the governments of the world and world domination”
Umm…. and Christianity is……what again?
November 10th, 2009 at 10:26 amHow does a man so full of hate and intolerance, who exploits his followers’ prejudices, who foments more hatred and intolerance, who, himself, has made himself rich with donations from the lemmings in his audience, and who has increased his fortune in diamond mines with a close association with dictator Mobutu, and exploiting child labor — why is this man not exiled by christians who aren’t fooled by him? Why do they let him continue to speak for them?
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Another inductee into the Rethuglican Sex Offender Wall of Shame.
They’re going to have to build a bigger wing; there’s a new member inducted almost daily.
November 10th, 2009 at 10:27 amFrom the article at the IdahoStatesman.com:
Idaho Falls police reported that witnesses said Hall disposed of used condoms on the lawn of the woman’s house. Nineteen condoms were turned over to police, collected on 10 different dates, according to a police report. Both Hall and his lawyer acknowledged the condoms belonged to him, according to a police report.
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I know what you’re thinking, “it’s the kind of thing HF would do.” You’d be right.
November 10th, 2009 at 10:27 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Is he trying to really ignite a holy war and hasten the return of JC?
Probably just going for ratings. Guys like Robertson, kind of like trolls such as HF, have a pathological need for attention. Plus, more stirred up Xtians means more ‘donations’ to him.
November 10th, 2009 at 10:29 amThe poster boy for WASP multimillionares begging for dollars parading as Christians built on a premise of hate.
November 10th, 2009 at 10:29 amLiz@60, I read about that too. Man, These Repugs have all kinds of fetishes don’t they? When I read that I couldn’t help but to think of Vitter in diapers. EEww.
November 10th, 2009 at 10:30 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
I have deep secret fantasies about Greta van Susteren in a spitroast with Neil Cavuto and Brit Hume.
Oooh, oooh, oooh…
November 10th, 2009 at 10:31 amYes Liz, and what makes it extra creepy (and gives the heebie jeebie effect) is more than likely, this was a “solo” effort.
Yuck.
More tales of the sexually repressed!
November 10th, 2009 at 10:31 amSomebody Hijacked my friggin name! Vote him down immediately.
November 10th, 2009 at 10:31 amDRxJ says:
“Or a tufted titmouse!”
Not on my watch…
November 10th, 2009 at 10:31 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Pot calling the kettle….
November 10th, 2009 at 10:33 amThis from a guy who would have OUR politics adhere to HIS religious values.
November 10th, 2009 at 10:33 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
@65, Is not me. Hey coward, use your own tag. Not mine.
November 10th, 2009 at 10:33 amWhenever Pat Robertson speaks, he’s gotta be careful because his forked tongue could give him away…
November 10th, 2009 at 10:34 amHF says: You know that you and all your white wing wrong side party members have all the common scene that god gave a two by four. and thats knots included.
I call you a joke but the joke was played on your mom.
November 10th, 2009 at 10:35 amActually, RapePublicans are “anti-christian”.
The are anti-american TRAITORS as well.
November 10th, 2009 at 10:35 amWitness Bush, Cheney and their TREASONOUS supporters.
rev patty is just as bad as rev doodie both like to use God’s name in vain, both preach violence, they have the weirdest followers and are greedy. They use their churches as fronts for paying off whores and having orgies.
November 10th, 2009 at 10:35 amQ: What’s the difference between a Muslim, a Christian and a Jew?
A: Only God knows for sure, and he’s not talking to anyone…
November 10th, 2009 at 10:35 amHF says
November 10th, 2009 at 10:06 am
Aren’t progressives “anti-Christian?”
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It depends on how one defines the term “Christian”.
If one considers a Christian to be someone who follows the teachings of Jesus Christ, then Christians would be people who believe we have a responsibility to take care of each other, to protect God’s creation, and to concern ourselves more with the motes in our own eyes than with the specks in others — yes, progressives can get behind these principles with no problem.
However if one considers a Christian to be someone who judges others, is filled with self-righteousness, and uses religion to foment hatred and bigotry or to justify waging unprovoked war — you’ll find most progressives are quite against these things.
So, since you perceive progressives to be “anti-Christian”, it’s not hard to see how you define Christianity. Which is a pity, because I don’t think that’s what Jesus had in mind.
November 10th, 2009 at 10:36 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Mark Twain The easy confidence with which I know another man’s religion is folly teaches me to suspect that my own is also.
November 10th, 2009 at 10:36 amOn his 700 Club TV show yesterday
Enough said.
November 10th, 2009 at 10:37 amokay Pat, make up your mind. Is Islam a religion or not? I believe that Islam worships the God of Abraham just as Christians do. What a conflicted, pathetic man.
November 10th, 2009 at 10:38 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Sometimes I feel like we’ve regressed back to the time of the Crusades!
Can we please evolve to the point of having some kind of civilized society without all of the religious overtones and “adherences”?!
Don’t those of us who don’t ‘adhere’ to any particular set of religious beliefs have rights too?
November 10th, 2009 at 10:39 amHonestly, I think that hard-liners like Robertson and and Phelps are worse than any other brand of religious nutcase. At least the other ones have the balls to die for what they believe in, pricks like those two talk about it, sucker other people into doing it, and make money off it. Kinda like the GOP now that I think about it.
November 10th, 2009 at 10:40 amPat Robertson and his fellow evangelicaloids are hell-bent on world “dumbination.”
November 10th, 2009 at 10:40 amThis is right. The army should be held accountable. If not the army then who?
“They” hardly let him loose.
He has been under surveillance for months and according to the FBI, never posed a serious enough threat.
I’m thinking FBI fails AGAIN in it’s duty to protect.
JUST LIKE THEY DID PRIOR TO 9/11.
November 10th, 2009 at 10:40 am84, Nice try, joe cantwell never used Initial Caps.
Everyone knows that.
:)
November 10th, 2009 at 10:41 amEverybody – please ignore the moronic troll who seems to have absolutely nothing to do with it’s time – just vote it down and IGNORE
November 10th, 2009 at 10:41 amWell…we wouldn’t want to politicize this affair, now would we? Perhaps this was a right-wing attempt to foment anti-Muslim hatred. Not that I’m a conspiracy monger, or anything like that…
November 10th, 2009 at 10:41 amBriseadh na Faire says:
DNFP says:
It’s really a travesty that there isn’t an afterlife just so dipshits like this could die and realize what a farce their entire life has been.
Then again, maybe the folks who believe in reincarnation are right. In that case, it is likely he’ll be reincarnated as a dung beetle.
I doubt it. Scrabs have a purpose and are quite remarkable creatures. I say they will be male praying mantis.
November 10th, 2009 at 10:42 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
“I was so tired of being victimized,” the woman said. “It is unimaginable that a 56-year-old would be so deviant.”
When HF gets his freak on there’s no stopping him.
November 10th, 2009 at 10:44 amPat Robertson is no Christian.
A Pharisee, perhaps, but not a follower of Jesus of Nazareth.
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Pat Robertson, the 700 Club, Regent “University”, all the chri$tian mega-churches, all the fundies on TV begging for money, and the Catholic Church have one thing in common.
In another classic case of projection, Pat and company all are violent political systems, more hate groups and special interests, not religions, who for many reasons, including ethics, do not deserve any tax exemptions. Ineed, they should be taxed quite a lot. Pat, the Catholic Church, etc. should all be tried by the Justice Department and the FBI as gangs, since they act just like the thugs on the street corner conspiring against the majority of people, except these people conspire to take away our rights and attack people from other religions in something they call a ‘church.’
November 10th, 2009 at 10:51 amWe’re all fascists now according to loony tunes Robertson.
November 10th, 2009 at 10:57 amAh yes, what a big surprise.
Male…Old…Angry…Holy of Holy Christian…and white.
Ya, a really big surprise.
“…Do as WE say and no gets hurt…”
November 10th, 2009 at 10:58 amHi HF:
November 10th, 2009 at 10:58 amStill frightened. I am embarassed for you. You weakling…
She’s quite the hussy. We’re still trying to figure out the father 16 yrs later. *crosses fingers*
So you are saying you are only 16?
well that answers all question about you
November 10th, 2009 at 10:59 amI’ve never considered what Pat Robertson and his ilk promote to be a “religion” in any conventional sense of the word.
November 10th, 2009 at 11:00 amP.D. says
November 10th, 2009 at 10:29 am
If we didn’t allow Muslims in the military this wouldn’t have happened.
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Brilliant insight! And by that same logic, if Virginia Tech hadn’t allowed in students who were ethnically Korean, the Cho massacre wouldn’t have happened. At least probably not there.
And if Columbine High School hadn’t allowed white male teenagers to enroll, that massacre wouldn’t have happened. At least not there.
So who should we bar, and from where, to prevent the next instance of somebody going postal?
And this is not directed in any way at the REAL P.D. — just the namejacker, who’s an obvious dumbsh!t.
November 10th, 2009 at 11:03 am(Newsweek’s) Isikoff reported that the FBI wasn’t made aware that Hasan had purchased hand guns in August at a Killeen, Tex., gun shop named “Guns Galore.” Tight restrictions imposed by Congress on how information about weapons purchases can be shared with law enforcement authorities helped keep that crucial information from the FBI, the investigators said at the background briefing.
November 10th, 2009 at 11:05 amMolly, poor name jacker, not too subtle, is he?
November 10th, 2009 at 11:06 am111, Thank god for our second amendment rights.
snarf/off.
November 10th, 2009 at 11:07 amThis is why tax exempt status should be removed from all religious organizations. They’re so afraid tax dollars will somehow be used to pay for abortions. Well I’m tired of them getting to keep money they don’t have to pay taxes on given to them by people who then get to deduct it from their taxes. It’s like a double benefit so they can spread hate. Why should my tax dollars go to support the destruction of this country as we know it as perpetrated by religious zealots of any kind.
November 10th, 2009 at 11:09 am… right before asking for donations to the 700 Club to pay for a new DC-10 gunship to help fight this Islamofascist threat, and then encouraging people to buy his naturopathic herbal products.
Cheers,
November 10th, 2009 at 11:10 amFLAG HF. He namejacks all over the place while he got Joe Cantwell banned for getting even. Plus his language is unacceptable.
November 10th, 2009 at 11:11 am“… who should all be locked up in cages and left to rot, if not shot outright. Screw the First Amendment. Hell, screw the whole Bill of Rights….”
Cheers,
November 10th, 2009 at 11:12 am116
November 10th, 2009 at 11:16 amBut then who would I humiliate?
So let’s replace the religion name from Muslim to Christian and replace Major Nidal Malik with Timothy James McVeigh. How many seconds before you hear whines about “war on christianity” by zealots like robertson, hannity and o’reilly. what hypocritical, ignorant racists.
November 10th, 2009 at 11:16 amPerhaps Mr. Robertson has forgotten all about the crusades and how they stood knee deep in blood and guts after the Christians slaughtered every man,woman and child no matter if they were a Jew,Muslim or Christian.
November 10th, 2009 at 11:16 amIslam is not a religion ???????
I’ll give him that many countries have a political system that is merged well with Islam so it is hard to separate the religion and the political machine.
But in my own Christianity there is also that problem. Historically look at the Inquisition and the Crusades. And look at the folks proclaiming America as a Christian Nation.
So it would be just as valid to say that Christianity isn’t a religion.
November 10th, 2009 at 11:20 amHey, I was wondering what ever happened to joe cantwell.
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Wasn’t pat robertson exposed for his “charity” for supposedly bringing supplies to an area, but actually he flew empty planes down to fill up and bring home his blood diamonds. Greed, lying and fanning flames of hatred are pat robertsons religious values.
November 10th, 2009 at 11:24 amFor those who wish to deny that republicans are waging religious war, Pat clears the air.
November 10th, 2009 at 11:27 amSTFU Human Feces. Nobody is talking to you except dbadass. And he has good reasons.
November 10th, 2009 at 11:33 amMr. Robertson, you are truly one monumental BAG OF S***. You disgrace the word “Christian”. Why don’t you go preach your hatred in Israel, where it will be appreciated? Anyone who listens to you belongs in a mental hospital.
Have you ever thought about exorcising your own demons? Remember, Judas hung himself.
November 10th, 2009 at 11:34 amYes DRxJ we all love Joe Cantwell. It looks like he might have left one comment above or it could be HF setting him up to by namejacking him since it doesn’t look like his kind of comment.
November 10th, 2009 at 11:35 amDRxJ says:
Hey, I was wondering what ever happened to joe cantwell.
Me too! Thanks for letting us know Shayne. I miss Joe.
Me and Willy Loman were banned way back when (I used to have a different name) after we engaged with a particularly hateful troll. So now I usually try to ignore them, but every now and then a troll (Daryll usually) will try my resolve.
November 10th, 2009 at 11:35 amshayne, agreed, no one should engage the meth addicted hf.
Let him talk to himself. At least that way he can have a conversation with someone who is as stupid as he is.
November 10th, 2009 at 11:37 amintolerant bigots are not ‘ministers’ of God… but then, you’re a christianist, and don’t really follow the teachings of the man whose words you portray yourself as preacher of…
November 10th, 2009 at 11:39 amChristianity is not a religion either, just an attempt to justify hate spewing self righteous a-holes who want to vent their particular version of “God’s word”. This just goes to prove that religion has no place in discourse and intercourse between intelligent people. Pat Robertson has time and again shown that he is not a decent person. By the way, if you hate gays and muslims like Pat and his religious right, send him all the money you have, he could use it for another Benz.
November 10th, 2009 at 11:41 amPat Robertson, Faux Noise and the Teabaggers are fascistic threats to our democracy and should be treated as such.
November 10th, 2009 at 11:43 amI guess Roeder makes Christainity a terrorist faith too, then.
November 10th, 2009 at 11:47 amThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
So Islam is a violent religion and a political system bent on world domination. And that’s different from Christianity how, exactly? Both seek to spread the “good word” throughout the world.
Remember George Tiller.
November 10th, 2009 at 11:57 am“”"And they talk about infidels and all this, but the truth is that’s what the game is. So you are dealing with not a religion. You’re dealing with a political system.”"”
Good way to describe Robertson’s own organisation, I would say.
November 10th, 2009 at 12:00 pmThis just in: Local Pot Calls Kettle Black
November 10th, 2009 at 12:16 pmI-N-Q-U-I-S-I-T-I-O-N ???
And Robertson’s THEOLOGY credentials = ZERO
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November 10th, 2009 at 12:17 pmAnd I think we should treat it as …. members of some fascist group.
Like the Republicans?
November 10th, 2009 at 12:18 pm“Evangelicalism is the fastest growing mental illness in this nation”.
It is actually shrinking, and as the following diminishes, the desperateness is augmented as seen in this example with Pat.
November 10th, 2009 at 12:31 pmFirst, I’m a long time reader, first time poster.
I once watched Pat Robertson on television squint his little eyes and pray to his “god” for the death of Supreme Court justices. Christian? I think not. Good American? Absolutely not. I wonder how long his FBI file is.
Religion is a stain on the bedsheets of mankind. I agree with previous posters: Show us some actual, concrete proof. Any religion, it doesn’t matter. Any takers? I didn’t think so…
And by the way, I’m sure this has been pointed out many times, but when did Christians give up on the new testament, and revert back the old?
November 10th, 2009 at 12:38 pmNice to get an idiot’s-eye-view on the topic.
Woohoo!!! You go Pat! yer doin’ my work for me!!!
November 10th, 2009 at 12:38 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
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Has HF stopped beating his boyfriend?
And when HF reponds, let it be proof that he’s a gay basher!
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November 10th, 2009 at 12:45 pmNooooooooope… merely used as an example of how extremists on the right will try to use this tragedy to make artificial political points.
Thanks fer playin’!!!!!!!!
November 10th, 2009 at 12:51 pm.
#144 Plumb Bob,
Sorry. But a great attempt you TROLL!
THIS THREAD ISN’T ABOUT FOXPRAVDA!
… But yet, your loyal proclivities to a Political Propaganda station are recognized in your knee JERK reaction to the 700 Club as being an element of FOXPRAVDA.
Of course you make such asinine associations…
… That’s why I can call YOU a TROLL.
IF you watched FOXPRAVDA you would know the two run on completely different channels/station. TBS /= FOXPRAVDA.
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November 10th, 2009 at 12:51 pmAnd I think Pat Robertson should be treated like the reactionary, calcified nut job that he is.
November 10th, 2009 at 1:12 pmActually, I’m quite certain Islam is a religion, and a Semitic Abrahamic-based one at that. Just like Christianity, Judaisim, Zorastorism…
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…No comment on HF. I think his posts speak for themselves.
November 10th, 2009 at 2:05 pmI thought this relic was dead already?
November 10th, 2009 at 2:32 pmMaybe he is suggesting because people such as the Lords Resistance Army down to Hitler himself were CHristians, that Christians also should be labeled as facists governments and dealt with militarily. This is the kind of thing that gives Christians a bad name… so hypocritical coming from someone who preaches hate in the name of their religion and tries to govern the country at the same time. It seems to me RObertson should take a look at the political machine him and his allies have become before making such statements.
November 10th, 2009 at 2:35 pmThe head spirtiual idiot speaks.
November 10th, 2009 at 2:51 pmHF has a right to his opinion. Some so called Christians have brought it upon themselves. They don’t deserve to call themselves Christian but oh well! Robertson is a good example of what a Christain should not be like.
November 10th, 2009 at 2:55 pmPat Robertson and his kind have done more to destroy this country than any terrorist. He just “prays” while he does it.
November 10th, 2009 at 3:09 pmSlartibartfast says:
First, I’m a long time reader, first time poster.
Welcome, I hope you’ve been enjoying your reading. As to your question, “but when did Christians give up on the new testament, and revert back the old?”, I’d say it probably happened when they realized that following the word of Christ wasn’t getting them anywhere – no power, no riches, no glory. They didn’t want to wait anymore for the ‘meek’ to inherit the earth.
November 10th, 2009 at 3:10 pmBut HF is still stupidly chasing windmills and that won’t change.
November 10th, 2009 at 3:10 pmPapirini ~ I’d like to start a naming game:
Perhaps
November 10th, 2009 at 3:15 pmHoratio Fuzzworth?
Hiram Finklestein?
Hugo Furschleppen?
Or
Harold Farbanger?
Henry Fulaschit?
November 10th, 2009 at 3:16 pmRUC, how about ‘Hugo Fulaschit’ – I think it has a nice ‘flow’ to it.
November 10th, 2009 at 3:33 pmIgnoranceIsNotBliss says, “Oh my. And people actually listen to this guy?”
Pat Robertson’s #1 target is the bank accounts of elderly, homebound, devout Christian, men and women who are on fixed incomes. Robertson tells them that if they send him $100, $1,000, or $10,000, God will perform miracles for them.
Robertson is a bigger scam artist than Bernard Madoff.
November 10th, 2009 at 3:37 pmAs much as I despise Robertson, he is in fact partly right. Islamism is in fact a political system that is much a part of many Islamic states.
Without any separation of church and state, then the line blurs and the religion takes on political powers. As a political system, I think Islamism deserves to be confronted, defeated, and disposed of onto the trash heap of history’s bad ideas.
Until Islam has its reformation and separates church and state, it can only be viewed with the suspicions about its goals that Robertson voiced. And, if a person claims to be a Muslim first, and then a citizen of their nation second, the political part of Islam raises the question of first loyalties. I would not want to go into any battle with someone whose first loyalty was to a different group than the nation sponsoring the army I’m in.
November 10th, 2009 at 3:47 pmActually I think it was the Christians who had WAY better luck with that agenda, Pat…
November 10th, 2009 at 3:56 pmtomw says:
November 10th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
Do you hold christians to the same standard?
You know what they say: God first, country second, then family.
November 10th, 2009 at 4:00 pmReligion: One of the biggest reasons for perpetual war and death in this world, if we could only get rid of religion, I mean ALL religions.
November 10th, 2009 at 4:02 pm@Zooey – Would you want to go into battle under a leader (or with an armymate) who thought your death was just the first step toward Armaggedon? Too bad for you now, you’ll get your reward later, whether you believe that afterlife nonsense or not?
So yeah, it applies to all religions. It’s why people get twitchy when a leader believes s/he’s doing the will o’ gawd.
November 10th, 2009 at 4:22 pmZooey, I agree with a combination of your comment and tomw’s, particularly tomw’s at 165. Anyone in the U.S. military who puts their faith/god before the country that they swore an oath to serve should NOT be in the military. No matter which religion they profess to follow.
November 10th, 2009 at 4:38 pmI would like to get bit’s thoughts. Has anyone seen bit?
November 10th, 2009 at 5:01 pmIslam has been perverted by men who seek power.
Christianity has been perverted by men who seek power.
Is their any difference between Pat Robertson and the Islamic leaders fermenting the present reign of terror?
I am proud to be a Roman Catholic. Pat Robertson no more speaks for me and my Christian beliefs than the devil himself. I invite you to read the speeches the Pope delivered during his visit to America. You should find a major difference between the beauty of Christianity, and the vile diatribes of Pat Robertson.
Before we paint any systems of belief with a broad brush, we should consider the details.
I believe Robertson has paint Islam with a very broad brush.
Humbly, flight
November 10th, 2009 at 7:23 pmRobertson is the Glen Beck of televangelist billionaires.
Takes one to know one, right Patrick?
November 10th, 2009 at 7:51 pmPat Robertson goes into the backyard and “talks” to God, then gives out financial advice on biblical principal.
That tells you Pat doesn’t subscribe to any religion, but sees himself as a prophet. If Pat got treatment for the schizophrenia he obviously has, got some real education on world religions, drops his myopic views and apologized for his role in screwing up this government from 2001-2008, that would be progress for the a-hole.
November 10th, 2009 at 8:28 pmHere’s what Pat Robertson’s and Sarah Palin’s hero, founder Thomas Jefferson had to say about the Christian mythology.
And the day will come when the mystical generation of Jesus, by the supreme being as his father in the womb of a virgin will be classed with the fable of the generation of Minerva in the brain of Jupiter — Thomas Jefferson, in an 1823 letter to John Adams.
I have examined all the known superstitions of the world, and I do not find in our particular Superstitions of Christianity one redeeming feature. They are all alike, founded on fables and mythology. Millions of innocent men women and children since the introduction of Christianity, have been burnt, tortured, fined, and imprisoned. What has been the effect of this coercion? To make one half of the world fools and the other half hypocrites; to support roguery and error all over the earth. — Thomas Jefferson
November 11th, 2009 at 12:46 am>tomw :As much as I despise Robertson, he is in fact partly right. Islamism is in fact a political system that is much a part of many Islamic states.
Islamism is not Islam. Just because there is are theocratic systems of governments it does not trump the religion or become one and the same. The two exist seperately. Just as Zionism is not Judaism
November 11th, 2009 at 7:43 amAbraham may be a little surprised to learn that Islam is not a religion. But then again, Pat Robertson is full of his own sense of superiority, his interpretation of “christian” is the only acceptable version to his god.
November 11th, 2009 at 10:35 amCan you spell H-Y-P-O-C-R-I-T-E? He says Islam is not a religion, but a terrorist/fascist mafia, when he himself advocates for bigotry, sexism, and overthrow of governments he thinks are too “secular”.This reminds me of the “takes one to know one” thing. I used to watch 700 club a couple of years ago, but I stopped when I realized what a paranoid idiot he has become ( I mean, this is the guy who said that the NEA and other unions were part of a Democratic/Kennedy plot to overthrow the government). What a psycho!
November 11th, 2009 at 8:01 pmPlumbbobber
I realize you are VERY stupid. Try to get this. Just because someone does something right OCCASIONALLY, doesnt mean they are all good. Just because someone does something unethical a few times doesnt make them all bad. This black white type of thinking is so simpleminded and only true morons think it makes sense. Why not STFU and READ a while till you get at LEAST to the cognitive level of say a six year old then try again to make a cogent argument
November 12th, 2009 at 8:14 am