Crist flip flops — and flips again — on his support for the federal stimulus.
Crist flip flops — and flips again — on his support for the federal stimulus.
In recent weeks, Gov. Charlie Crist (R-FL) has been flip flopping on whether he supported the federal stimulus bill. First he said he did, then he said he didn’t, and today he again said it was “pretty clear” that he did:
“It’s getting harder every day and we know that it’s important that we pass this stimulus package. It is important that we do so to help education, to help our infrastructure, and to help health care for those who need it the most — the most vulnerable among us.” — Crist, 2/10/09
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“Well, I didn’t endorse it [the stimulus]. I — you know, I didn’t even have a vote on the darned thing.” — Crist, 11/4/09
VERSUS
“I support it [the stimulus]. I think it was important to take it. All of my fellow governors did so. … I would have voted for a different form. But I think it’s pretty clear I supported the concept.” — Crist, 11/12/09
Crist is locked in a tough Senate campaign against fervent anti-Obama, anti-stimulus right-wing candidate Marco Rubio and is getting attacked by conservative groups for his hypocrisy.
ROLLING STONE: Just a final question: Had you been in the Senate, would you have voted with the other Republicans for the stimulus package?CRIST: Absolutely.
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Charlie’s answer will of course, depend on who he’s talking to and what they want to hear.
November 12th, 2009 at 4:50 pmWhat part of (R) don’t you understand.
Crist is making a huge mistake. Rubio will crush him as a liar AND a flipflopper. Remember how Deeds ran away from Obama, he got crushed. And Corzine, who embraced Obama barely lost. All Rubio needs to do, is show footage of Crist with Obama, and it’s all over. Crist should bite the bullet, and come clean. It’s his only choice.
November 12th, 2009 at 4:52 pmRun scared, tan man. The teabaggers are coming!
November 12th, 2009 at 4:52 pmcaption…
“This is my favorite stimulus!”
November 12th, 2009 at 4:52 pm.
Such a quandary Gov. Charlie Crist (R-FL) is in…
… It is difficult to be on both sides of an issue.
But then again, Gov. Charlie Crist (R-FL) is only searching for the shade of spotlight that HE looks best in. Fk Floridians, NO?
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November 12th, 2009 at 4:54 pmnoseeum,
In Australia, that’s an “up yours”!
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November 12th, 2009 at 4:55 pmHey, Charlie Scozzafava, how do yo like your party now?
November 12th, 2009 at 4:57 pmIs there a viable Democrate running for FL. Gov?
November 12th, 2009 at 4:58 pmdemocrate. used for demos only. duh
November 12th, 2009 at 4:59 pmModerate@7, Yeah, They will Scozzafava him! I have to admit, I love that name. It belongs to the ages now.
November 12th, 2009 at 5:00 pmCharlie Crist has a rabid far-right opponent in the R primary next summer, and a couple of wishy-washy D possibilities to run against for Senate, should he make it through the primary. He’s been a half-decent governor… not obnoxiously wingnut and fairly evenhanded with the actual job. This would be a gorgeous test case for whatever decent R’s are left… get this guy to be outspokenly moderate and middle-of-the road instead of wh*ring after the central and north Florida troglodytes (we used to call them the porkchoppers).
I honestly think there are enough sensible people out there for something like reason to prevail… or at least I’d like to see a test of this (and know where we really stand, God help us). But no, ol’ Charlie is gonna try to out-Marco Marco Rubio, and Rush himself couldn’t do that, so here we go again.
On the other hand, Marco’s chances with the porkchoppers aren’t as great as he might think…
November 12th, 2009 at 5:04 pmMax Anax junius -1 says:
“In Australia, that’s an “up yours”!”
Precisely.
In Navajo culture, it is a “warding off evil” gesture…
November 12th, 2009 at 5:04 pm(Just in case anyone happens to be heading out this way…)
Popcorn tastes mighty good right now watching this unfold.
November 12th, 2009 at 5:05 pmOMG.. Off Topic… Sarah’s interview is cringe-worthy. Her voice is wavering, she appears ditzy. Why is the MSM obsessed with her. She bashed Katie Couric and all the McCain staffers. This broad is drawing a bead on everyone. What a embarassment.
November 12th, 2009 at 5:06 pm“attacked by conservative groups for his hypocrisy”?
I thought hypocrisy was a prerequisite to be a conservtive.
November 12th, 2009 at 5:07 pmWhoo! Give us hell, Quimby!
November 12th, 2009 at 5:11 pmPurple State ~ Got KettleCorn??
November 12th, 2009 at 5:14 pmP.D.
I’m sorry…Sarah…who?
That name no longer appears to ring a bell.
Maybe I’ll read a newspaper to find out about that person more…
I’ll get back to ya on that one.
November 12th, 2009 at 5:17 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
About F’ing time for some backlash!
What is it with conservatives and kinky sex?
November 12th, 2009 at 5:25 pmbarfly says:
About F’ing time for some backlash!
What is it with conservatives and kinky sex?
smiles to a conservative (evangelical) any sex is kinky.
November 12th, 2009 at 5:27 pmSounds like you want more war, Londra.
November 12th, 2009 at 5:29 pmPurple@22, I was thinking the same thing. These guys are so short sighted. There a BILLIONS of Muslims and the majority are peaceful. Lon and the others LOVE war as long as they don’t have to fight it.
November 12th, 2009 at 5:31 pmPurple State says:
Sounds like you want more war, Londra.
Red Dawn II
November 12th, 2009 at 5:32 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
OT
You guys should watch ‘Red State Update‘ — it’s fricken hilarious stuff.
I don’t know if these guys really are red necks or not.. but I guess it doesn’t matter – they mock wingnut thinking well either way.
November 12th, 2009 at 5:40 pmIts sort of fun listening to the cracker barrel troll bragging about how effective the administration is in fighting terrorism.
Oopsie, no more crackers for you. Your redneck buddies are gonna kick you off the porch.
November 12th, 2009 at 5:42 pm@25, The ‘Boy’????
November 12th, 2009 at 5:43 pmHe can’t decide if he is in or out of the closet.
November 12th, 2009 at 5:43 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
@30, Oh STFU. Go find a ‘Tea-Bagger’ meeting or something.
November 12th, 2009 at 5:49 pmIt will not help Crist to appear to flip-flop. He needs to take a strong stand and say the state had a severe fiscal crisis and that the stimulus helped save some jobs for his state. People will listen to a person who is forthright in his statements. He can layout what sort of cuts would have been imposed if Florida did not get the funds from the stimulus. Second, Crist needs to say that Rubio’s ideas are wrong and would be disasterous and why they are wrong. It will be very easy to paint Rubio as a radical with bad ideas.
November 12th, 2009 at 5:53 pmBoy?
That’s “President Boy” to you, Lon.
November 12th, 2009 at 5:56 pmLondra kulesi muhaf?z? says
November 12th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
About F’ing time for some backlash!
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And why is this giving you a woody? Do you only get your rocks off when somebody is getting beaten up?
If the Alavi Foundation has been engaging in illegal activities, they should be investigated, prosecuted, and their assets seized if necessary — according to due process of the law. But only a sick person would get a thrill from this, just as it would take a really twisted person to find joy in shooting a rabid dog.
There is no evidence that this constitutes “backlash”. There is nothing in the news item that suggests the Alavi Foundation had anything to do with the Fort Hood shootings, and nothing to suggest that the government wouldn’t have taken this action against the Alavi Foundation anyway.
November 12th, 2009 at 5:57 pmpags@32, Youre right. But the ‘Tea-Baggers’ will back Rubio. They will NEVER be satisfied until they they rid the Repug Party of all Moderates. If Crist were smart, he would do as you and I suggest. Bite the bullet and state the Stimulus is working. If he keeps flip-flopping he will lose.
November 12th, 2009 at 5:58 pmThe stupid trolls love terrorists, as long as they have a cross around their neck.
November 12th, 2009 at 5:58 pmPurple@33, Lon’s use of the word ‘Boy’ was very telling wasn’t it?
November 12th, 2009 at 5:59 pmBeing against stimulus is too common sense.
National Debt
$11,986,954,033,520.56 and growing by the second
November 12th, 2009 at 5:59 pmOf course, it’s beyond the education of a stupid troll to be aware that Crusades always end badly for everyone.
November 12th, 2009 at 6:00 pmHahahaha, the King of Flip Flop! Thats too funny!
RT
November 12th, 2009 at 6:01 pmUltimate Privacy
Crist … is getting attacked by conservative groups for his hypocrisy.
And flip flopping like he is both ashamed and even unsure of his actions will help him how ?
November 12th, 2009 at 6:01 pm@38, OK. Then how do YOU propose we get out of the debt Bush left us? Bush started the bail-outs by the way. What is your solution?
November 12th, 2009 at 6:02 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Mr.Duke says:
http://zfacts.com/metaPage/lib/National-Debt-GDP-L.gif
Here ya go, Mr. Duke!
November 12th, 2009 at 6:02 pmEnjoy!
@43, That is so low. Even for you.
November 12th, 2009 at 6:03 pmLondra, did you catch last night’s South Park? They skewered Glenn Beck. Pretty funny.
Of course, I can see why you’d call that show “right wing.”
It’s because you’re very, very, very stupid.
November 12th, 2009 at 6:04 pmTroll@46, You are being to kind. Stupidity isn’t an excuse for some of his comments.
November 12th, 2009 at 6:05 pmP.D.
We’ve all seen it before. The stupid sockpuppet factory is building a rage. It will get progressively more vile then will actually threaten violence or jack a few names resulting in a temporary banishment.
November 12th, 2009 at 6:07 pmYou’re absolutely right, Londra’s scumminess goes well beyond stupidity. But he is very, very, very stupid.
November 12th, 2009 at 6:09 pmP.D.
Sometimes it seems like talking about it, like a fungus in a Petri dish, accelerates the process. Considering how low it started out, it should take very little prompting to cross the line, again.
November 12th, 2009 at 6:10 pmIf he’d just treat the voters like grownups and tell the truth…
He should say that it’s a lot of money, we don’t know how we’re going to pay it back, and he’d be a damn fool not to see how much of it he can get for Florida.
BTW. Florida has had its 1st decline in population since 1945.
November 12th, 2009 at 6:10 pmCaption….
November 12th, 2009 at 6:21 pmI have this big thumb of mine up my ass all day because I dont care about the fine people of florida. Im a repug I just want my tax payer financed paycheck.
P.D. says:
pags@32, Youre right. But the ‘Tea-Baggers’ will back Rubio. They will NEVER be satisfied until they they rid the Repug Party of all Moderates.
Dems could be easily tempted to vote for Crist since he did a good job as governor. If the Dem candidates fails to inspire voters at the primaries or there is only one candidate, Dems may easily cross over. Crist will be better off painting Rubio as the teabagger that he is-a radical right winger who puts his political views over the needs of the state.
November 12th, 2009 at 6:25 pmpags!53, True, but we are talking about Florida. A lot of ‘Tea-Bag’ country down there.
November 12th, 2009 at 7:08 pmbelaccifer lacca @ 44: THANK YOU (sorry for shouting). This info needs to be repeated daily, especially to those who still think Reagan was somehow not a complete spendaholic buffoon (those people also need to know who gave Osama his first stinger missile).
http://zfacts.com/metaPage/lib/National-Debt-GDP-L.gif
November 12th, 2009 at 7:33 pmP.D. says:
pags!53, True, but we are talking about Florida. A lot of ‘Tea-Bag’ country down there.
Hoffman thought he had a cakewalk in New York when Scozzafava dropped out. He reasoned that the district hadn’t voted Dem in over a century and therefor he would win. The teabagger got a surprise. There are going to be a lot of teabagger candidates and some may even win an office. But they will fail as a legislator because their political views are more important than the constituents. After one term the teabaggers will be gone. A few election losses and their appetite for demonstrations and tea parties will be gone.
November 12th, 2009 at 7:48 pmpags@56, Touche!
November 12th, 2009 at 8:05 pmThe Moderate Squad@55 Re: Reagan being “a complete spendaholic buffoon”
Repeat this instead: Wasn’t Reagan’s spending a plan to end the cold war? Worked OK, no? Now, Bush Sr and the rest of our 90’s elected official’s job was to reign in the spending and the Osama’s once the Berlin wall fell. But instead we praise Clinton’s “surplus” when the federal debt never declined. Perhaps curbing a few evil hating madrassah’s during the 90’s might have been a good idea? Might even be a good idea now?
November 12th, 2009 at 8:36 pmCould we stop allowing others to mislead us by measuring our debt as a percentage of GDP? Where I come from, (pre sub-prime NINJA loans & bailouts) debts are normally paid from income. Federal taxes are the income that’s supposed to pay our federal debt, not GDP. In addition, taxes paid are also a real number where GDP seems a tad more fabricated.
November 12th, 2009 at 9:04 pmPursueTruth,
November 12th, 2009 at 9:25 pmYou’re in thin ice territory. Cheney once remarked that if deficit spending worked for Regan, Bush should push the limits.
Regan was repeatedly advised that the Soviet Union was an economic basket case and they couldn’t sustain their military spending. Regan ignored the advice, ran up a huge deficits by expanded the military, and the advice concerning the Soviet economy proved correct.
The Clinton years were the best of the last 30 considering the fact that the country was at almost full employment, tax revenues where high and the country as a whole was making out.
Concerning GW Bush, I’ll play a Republican and won’t bother.
Scozzafava versus Hoffman was just the beginning of the Republican-TeaBag Civil War. Charlie Crist versus Marco Rubio is going to be 100 times uglier. Unlike Doug Hoffman in NY, Rubio already has a base of support here in Florida. He’s also a much better speaker and more charismatic than Hoffman (though the same could be said for a slug). Rubio is far right on every position, so will be the Tea-bagger’s darling. Crist will have the establishment Republicans (McCain, Newt, George Will, etc.), and Rubio will have Palin, Limbaugh, Beck, Hannity, etc.
Grab your popcorn…
November 12th, 2009 at 9:42 pmPursueTruth@ 59,
November 12th, 2009 at 9:47 pmEnough said, could agree with you more. We are stuck with reality, might as well own up to if. The truth is hard but at least you know how you are sitting!
BrianFL @ 61,
I am afraid Crist may very well be on his own. It appears Linbaugh and Beck have spoken. Crist will have no support from the national party, he’s not pure enough.
Pass the popcorn please, going to be a bloodbath.
November 12th, 2009 at 9:58 pmCloset cases are notorious flip-floppers, unable to be truthful, and with serious commitment issues.
November 12th, 2009 at 10:01 pmHuh, I guess the thumb does come out of his bummy now and then.
November 12th, 2009 at 10:36 pmLondra
You ignorant bigot. You worthless pile of dogshit. Just STFU
November 13th, 2009 at 12:02 amThis is just Crist’s formal application for the next season of Dancing with the Stars. He wants to prove his stimulus samba is ballroom worthy.
November 13th, 2009 at 12:05 amIs it just me or is that a seriously big assed thumb?
November 13th, 2009 at 12:12 amMaybe Crist only paid for the head tan and there was some head shrinkage. Because his hand is a pearly shade of white.
November 13th, 2009 at 12:18 amAssume that Rubio wins the nomination. Can he win the election? Rubio has to convince all of the Republicans to vote for him, but there will be bad blood over the primary if Crist loses. My guess is that there will be a lot of regular Republicans who may cross over to the Dem candidate in the election. That will be enough for the Dem to win. In Illinois, we had a Larouchie who won the Dem nomination for a high office. But the Dems crossed over to the Independent Dem or the Republicans. The Larouchie lost by a landslide. I expect most of the teabagger candidates will lose because they do not appeal to the independent voters who are far more rational. As I previously said, there will be teabaggers who may win an election, but they will be unable to hold the seat. Crist needs to appeal to the middle of the road voters and that will be enough to deprive Rubio of the nomination. But Crist and his people will need to do a lot of work to get out the vote in the primary. A low voter turnout will increase the odds of an upset.
November 13th, 2009 at 3:11 amThere is a reason why the GOP always say Government is the problem. They know that when you have a party of men and women in power, like themselves, who do Nothing for Main Street but say no and complain, who stimie reform, and incite fear into the people, then goverment becomes a problem — and so it becomes a self-fulliling prophecy. We must remember and think back that whenever the GOP are in power or in control, the goverment has been a do nothing, problematic government for Average Americans and a big Boom and Bonus for the Rich and well connected. Let’s not forget that this is a Bush & GOP stimulated recession due to the neglect and taking care of America. They had the power for 10 to 12 years, mostly since Regan, and did nothing to uplift this country, only to rape it and steal it from Main Street, to give it to Wall Street and businesses over seas. The GOP does not even like to raise the Minimum Wage for average Americans so that they can at least make a “living wage”! There were no homeless people until Regan rule when they got rid of all of the state hospitals and threw the insane out on the street to fend for themselves! They care nothing if you are making it. People we must wake up now! Because look around, assess the United States’ situation that we are in and ask yourself over the last 10 years of GOP rule, what have they done for you lately? Or this country? Do you like what the United States has become? And ask yourself this, if we let them get power again, how much more further will this country be destroyed until the United States will no longer be. That is a very frightening thought! So why in the world, would one vote for candidates and put them in power of a government in which they don’t belive in and believe cannot work? Why?
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