RNC employee health insurance plan covers abortion.
RNC employee health insurance plan covers abortion.
Last week, 176 House Republicans joined with 64 Democrats in voting for the so-called Stupak amendment, which could “could effectively stop many employer-provided health insurance plans from covering abortions for tens of millions of Americans” and restrict any private plan in the insurance exchange from offering abortion coverage. However, Politico reports today that the RNC’s own employee health care plan covers elective abortion — “a procedure the party’s own platform calls ‘a fundamental assault on innocent human life’”:
Federal Election Commission Records show the RNC purchases its insurance from Cigna. Two sales agents for the company said that the RNC’s policy covers elective abortion.
Informed of the coverage, RNC spokeswoman Gail Gitcho told POLITICO that the policy pre-dates the tenure of current RNC Chairman Michael Steele.
“The current policy has been in effect since 1991, and we are taking steps to address the issue,” Gitcho said. [...]
According to several Cigna employees, the insurer offers its customers the opportunity to opt out of abortion coverage — and the RNC did not choose to opt out.
Recently it was also revealed that the health insurance plan used by the right-wing, anti-choice organization Focus on the Family also covered “abortion services.”
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What? Republican Hypocrisy? Say it isn’t so.
November 12th, 2009 at 6:07 pmRNC hypocrisy is boundless.
November 12th, 2009 at 6:07 pmAhhh ok….’do as I say, not as I do’….how very IOKIYAR.
November 12th, 2009 at 6:08 pmDo as we say, not as we do…
November 12th, 2009 at 6:09 pmSorry multilee
November 12th, 2009 at 6:09 pmRepublicans are by VERY definition ‘a fundamental assault on innocent human life’”
I pray to the God they pretend to believe in that all of America will realize it one day.
November 12th, 2009 at 6:10 pmWhy aren’t the Dems and Progressives using this??? Here we have a flat out hypocricy and the the Dems are silent? Damn, this crap really pisses me off.
November 12th, 2009 at 6:12 pmAlthough I have no problem with the RNC supplying this reproductive health care coverage to it’s members, because one never plans for an unplanned pregnancy, the irony of Republicans being against the legal right of a woman to terminate a pregnancy and providing this coverage is palpable.
November 12th, 2009 at 6:12 pmRepublicans don’t give a damn about abortion–if they really did, why did all the Bush years with a Republican White House, Congress, and a Supreme Court that appointed W keep Roe v. Wade in place?
November 12th, 2009 at 6:13 pmI have yet to see where Viagra has been stripped from public funding. If my tax dollars are going to be subjectively handed out to cover only selective meds and services, then I sure as HELL don’t want the old geezers getting stiffies on MY dime, thank you very much.
November 12th, 2009 at 6:15 pmmachost says:
I have yet to see where Viagra has been stripped from public funding.
Viagra plus no abortion = baby.
Health care for the baby after it’s born? Not so much.
November 12th, 2009 at 6:18 pmI can truly understand a person’s moral opposition to abortion. However, I don’t really see any national movement to decrease the rate of abortions, only efforts to criminalize them. If we really looked at what conditions lead to unwanted pregnancies and abortions, we could work toward changing those conditions. For example, there were less abortions during the Clinton Administration. Why? Economics? More comprehensive sex education? Of course, it’s easier to yell at someone for doing what we don’t like than to target the environment and culture to effect real change.
November 12th, 2009 at 6:21 pmNo worries Mod ;)
November 12th, 2009 at 6:26 pmPD @9, Im with you on this. I wish the dems had some nads.
November 12th, 2009 at 6:29 pmThere are quite a few examples of the repugs hypocrisy.
Why dont the dems call them out when they flat out lie and make sht up?
Oh, dear!!! Those PRO-ABORTION monsters at the RNC and Focus on the Family MUST BE STOPPED!!!!
/snark
November 12th, 2009 at 6:31 pmGNOP needs the abortion issue as a wedge issue…. they pray for all the distractions they can find.
With all the fooling around the GNOP is so noted for, what would they do if abortion became illegal?
November 12th, 2009 at 6:31 pmPlease don’t change your insurance plan. The last thing we need is more unwanted Republican bastards running around.
November 12th, 2009 at 6:31 pmFolks, you seem to be forgetting something. These are Republicans. You know, the party that has a hard time keeping their johnsons behind zipped doors?
November 12th, 2009 at 6:31 pm“a procedure the party’s own platform calls ‘a fundamental assault on innocent human life’”
Unless of course you are a RNC operative then, well we’ll just won’t talk about it.
Spread the news to the religious right pro republican creeps…
November 12th, 2009 at 6:36 pmLove to get their response.
The ultimate “do as I say, not as I do” from the Republicans. They are the biggest bunch of lying hypocrites on the planet.
November 12th, 2009 at 6:36 pmAs a practical matter, I’d think we’d want as many RNC women to obtain abortions as want them.
November 12th, 2009 at 6:38 pmhad enough hits nail on head – The GOP could care less about Abortion in Reality – they just use it as a WEDGE issue to get the anti-abortion nutters out to vote. Sometimes it is enough to get to 50% + 1.
November 12th, 2009 at 6:38 pmWake up America the GOP needs the abortion bill because of their sexual conduct. Now work with me here. Many Law Makers are having sexual affairs and would not like these woman to have their child. Now we know they don’t like paying for stuff ask Senator Vitter what I mean. With coverage for abortions it helps the Law Makers have sex with other woman and have the Insurance take care of any problems. These guys are from the age when condems weren’t heard of.
November 12th, 2009 at 6:39 pm‘Sno biggie, ladies and gents. Just call the RNC and ask, they’ll tell you it’s irrelevant; the only folks they have on the payroll and their only volunteers are white and male. Just ask Steeleye Mike, he’ll tell ya…
(micro snark)
They do love them some hypocrisy though, mm mmm mmmmm….
November 12th, 2009 at 6:41 pmWhat HYPOCRITES!!!!!!!
Do As I SAY – Not As I DO!!!!!
November 12th, 2009 at 6:42 pmBah hahahahahahahaha! The right winger’s insurance policy covers abortion!
Too funny.
November 12th, 2009 at 6:43 pm“RNC employee health insurance plan covers abortion.”
What would the REAL leaders (rush, limpdick, beckerhead) of the RNC say?
November 12th, 2009 at 6:43 pmWhat about taxing abortion providers? Shouldn’t they be excluded (including personnel providing or assisting the procedures) from paying taxes?
Another idea: shouldn’t abortion be deductible? The Repubs surely don’t want income that was made to have an abortion be included in the taxable income. That would be icky
November 12th, 2009 at 6:45 pm“The current policy has been in effect since 1991, and we are taking steps to address the issue,”
I’m sure the RNC has been anti-abortion since long before 1991. What a crock of s#it, lame excuse… nice try.
November 12th, 2009 at 6:50 pm@ 25. Jackie says: Wake up America the GOP needs the abortion bill because of their sexual conduct. Now work with me here. Many Law Makers are having sexual affairs and would not like these woman to have their child. Now we know they don’t like paying for stuff ask Senator Vitter what I mean. With coverage for abortions it helps the Law Makers have sex with other woman and have the Insurance take care of any problems. These guys are from the age when condems weren’t heard of. November 12th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
No no no, Jackie. It’s true, you’ve got guys like Vitter, Ensign, and Sanford out there having affairs. I don’t know how they feel about their mistresses and lovers having a child, but the rest of us don’t want them to have any more children by anyone. Period. None. Zip. Nada. Zilch. Zeee row.
And I have to disagree with you. Several of those guys, with the possible exception of Vitter, are old enough to know that it was considered a sign of studliness to carry a condom around in your wallet. Any of those guys that were in their teens before about 1970 still got a piece of that dude culture. Sure, a lot of guys heaved a great sigh of relief in ‘64 or ‘65 when it became apparent that the pill was a reality, not just some dream cooked up by Hugh Hefner, but the old culture still took time to wind down; in fact, some of us would say that it never entirely went away, but that’s another matter.
November 12th, 2009 at 6:51 pmSo, all those GNOPer-donated funds go, in part, to providing abortions they abhor? Plus, isn’t the RNC funded somewhat by the taxpayer (including that little checkbox on our 1040s)?
November 12th, 2009 at 6:52 pmThe GOP isn’t against abortion. They say they are so a bunch of idiot, gullible Christians will vote for them. Amazingly, it works.
November 12th, 2009 at 6:55 pmThat’s why they give a little leeway in cases of rape and incest …
November 12th, 2009 at 6:58 pmCan someone make a radio/television ad about this? A billboard in every city?
November 12th, 2009 at 7:01 pmThis is hypocrisy at its worst – oh wait, we are talking about the RNC – there is not much worse than they.
Why can’t the Dems grow some balls? We know this amendment is an assault on POOR, MIDDLE CLASS woman. These politicians and Righties are rich. If their was an unwanted pregnancy in THEIR families, they would have a choice OR fly to another country for an abortion. As for poor women and the Middle Class, the Repugs are saying tough sh*t. Unreal
November 12th, 2009 at 7:01 pm@ 34. Damien…
They are formally ‘agin’ it; it’s in their party platform. But you’re correct in the sense that individually, the party pros and whatever pragmatists are left don’t care about it; it’s just a way to get the fundamentalist base inside the door and keep them there.
November 12th, 2009 at 7:04 pmA lot of insurace companies cover abortion–with an opt out for religious concerns. I want to know if all the money taken by Dems and Repugs from their insurance company/drug company friends was purified of abortion profits.
November 12th, 2009 at 7:09 pmI think the RNC actually has the special policy where coverage for abortion extends to the mistress of the insured. It’s one of the most popular options next to chemical dependency treatment and Viagra.
IOKIYAR
November 12th, 2009 at 7:10 pmThe repugs need abortion to be legal. When they get their interns and friends wives pregnant they will abort.
November 12th, 2009 at 7:11 pmIn their sick heads their political career is more important to them then a human life. When it comes to paying for it, they will pay any amount of money to get rid of “it”.
Either way its a womans choice, and if she has insurance then it should be covered.
WTF, WTF,WTF,WTF,WTF……….WTF?
November 12th, 2009 at 7:26 pmDo some research about the C street gang. They oppose abortion for American women, because Muslims don’t have abortions. They and other religious groups are terified of the Muslim population growth. It is no coinsidence that we are at war with two Muslim countries, and that militant religious fanatic politicians and contractors like Eric Prince are leading the charge.
November 12th, 2009 at 7:32 pmChristian nationaists and dominionists–all.
“RNC employee health insurance plan covers abortion.”
November 12th, 2009 at 7:44 pmtypical of the repukelicans;the party of “do as i say not as i do”
Wow they got caught with there hands in the cookie jar : )
November 12th, 2009 at 7:45 pmOT
The US CAtholic Bishops are meeting next week — they will vote on whether to forbid the removal of intravenous and abdominal feeding tubes from dying patients who are in a vegetative state.
Granny is in pain, she’s dying from something incurable, she is coma-tose and ready to go – the feeding tube cannot be disconnected if she is in a catholic hospital or if she is catholic or if her doctor is catholic.
This is from the guys who played games with ped-ophile priests in their ranks, who absolved 99.9% of them from punishment, yet they want to intefere in our private lives to the extent of birth control, abor-tion and now the final days.
It further validates my opinion that all organized religion is bs.
The TP sensor won’t print this – so I’ve played with spelling to see if it works.
November 12th, 2009 at 7:46 pmwhy would they even need such a thing in their insurance policy. everyone knowns repukeliscum men ain’t interested unless there’s meth a male hooker and a public restroom involved.
November 12th, 2009 at 7:50 pmGood. Keith and Rachel are covering this. I can’t wait for the RNC to respond to this.
November 12th, 2009 at 8:07 pmWow, Nobody is here. LOL! I am talking to myself. Damn, I need a life.
November 12th, 2009 at 8:24 pmThis stuff just writes itself.
November 12th, 2009 at 8:26 pmGuanteed only MSNBC news is covering this. CNN and Faux news wouldn’t have the balls.
November 12th, 2009 at 8:30 pmBelieve it or not, this story of hypocrisy is the headline at Politico.com.
November 12th, 2009 at 8:34 pmMarie@52, THAT blew me away. Why can’t the Dem’s dig this stuff up? For once, take a page out of the Repugs playbook and get down and dirty. The leaders of the Party should start twisting arms, ala, Tom(The Hammer)Delay.
November 12th, 2009 at 8:38 pmMarie says:
Not O/T, Marie, but apropos and related:
The issue of abortion has been been driven entirely by religious activists, intent on imposing their religious coda on the rest of society, regardless of what the rest of society by consensus deems acceptable, permissible, practical, or not.
After trying every other trick in the book, abortion is now the issue holding-up the ‘public option’ in a bill that promises to provide affordable health insurance to millions of adults who desperately need it, now more than ever.
Anyone who calls themselves Christian, ANYONE, shouldn’t benefit from ANY medical science.
“God” determines who is barren and who is fertile, who has a miscarriage and who has a healthy child, who does in childbirth and who survives, whose baby is whole and whose baby is deformed. It;s all int the Holey Bibble, which is the WORD OF GOD, the Alpha and Omega, THE END.
Any Christian who relies on SCIENCE to manage their health is apostate and blasphemous, guilty of having NO FAITH in God’s will.
And these Christians should leave the rest of us alone, confident in the knowledge that “GOD” will punish us all, now and in the hereafter, WITHOUT their interference.
November 12th, 2009 at 8:41 pmAcutally they just send the girl/woman to the hospital and the doctor writes it up as a “DNC” (Dilation and Curettage) which is another term for rich-bastard or Christianista abortion.
November 12th, 2009 at 8:42 pm#54 – 5th Estate,
And why do Christianistas buy any form of insurance? Don’t they trust in their God?
November 12th, 2009 at 8:46 pmDixie, Oh Yeah. The old D&C. A service provided for wealthy woman who can afford it. But for poor woman and teens, THEY are subjected to long waits, and some cases ultrasounds. Meanwhile some rich broad can contact her own GYN. and get this procedure. I need a drink.
November 12th, 2009 at 8:49 pmHey PD, it is kind of quiet on TP tonight. What gives?
November 12th, 2009 at 8:50 pmDo we need any more proof that the RNC have ABSOLUTELY no idea what they are doing?
November 12th, 2009 at 8:52 pmssc@58, LOL! I was thinking the same thing. And it’s a Thursday. It’s not like it’s a weekend. When, you know, people have a life. Me? I am as boring as it gets.
November 12th, 2009 at 8:52 pmMY platform calls WAR ‘a fundamental assault on innocent human life’
but Republicans are all in favor of War.
November 12th, 2009 at 8:56 pmP.D.,
November 12th, 2009 at 8:57 pmI disagree. You are far from boring. ;-)
Oh God. I just saw Carrie Prejean on Keith, and what a skank! Dear God. I hope her fifteen minutes of dubious fame are finally up.
November 12th, 2009 at 8:58 pmPD, I was out earlier and it seemed like there were alot of cars on the road. Maybe people are out shopping for the holidays. Then again according to repugs the economy is in the shtter and people dont have money to spend.
November 12th, 2009 at 8:59 pmRandom@62, That was kind of you. LOL! False, but kind. I may have my moments, but I’m basically a homebody.
November 12th, 2009 at 8:59 pmDid I have a reverse vanwinkle moment? Are we in the 1950’s?
WTF are we even debating this crap for?
Grrrrrrr
November 12th, 2009 at 9:01 pm“The current policy has been in effect since 1991, and we are taking steps to address the issue,”
The ultimate Party of Slo-Mo. Eighteen years and they can’t even address one of their key platform points from within their own organization.
I agree with Kay (#28)
November 12th, 2009 at 9:02 pmBwa-ha-ha-ha.
And ditto for PD (#59)
P.D., nuthin wrong with being a homebody. You seem to have your wits about you. That’s what counts ;-)
November 12th, 2009 at 9:03 pmAll of those horny “C Street” Republicans need options available in case they knock up their mistresses.
November 12th, 2009 at 9:03 pmHomer@67. Yeah. Eighteen friggin years? Man, talk about an ‘Oversight’. But then again, they are Repugs. Kind of, “I got mine, so FU”.
November 12th, 2009 at 9:06 pmlab@69, I was thinking the same thing, but I didn’t have the balls to type it. What kind of feminist am I? And Random, I may have my wits about me, but even my daughters call me the Crazy Cat Lady. You know, from the Simpson’s. But I’m not THAT bad. But if you piss me off, I may throw my cat at your head!
November 12th, 2009 at 9:09 pmAaah, but the RNC’s health insurance plan is only meant to pay for elective abortions for wealthy right-wing women…to hell with all the less-wealthy Republican or Republican-leaning women in America, who in the view of the Taliban-like religious fundamentalists, who’ve hijacked the Republican Party and declared that all women in America, Republican, Democrat and Independent alike, have only two choices, die or give birth.
November 12th, 2009 at 9:12 pmP.D., LOL, please don’t harm your feline.
November 12th, 2009 at 9:13 pmI know better than to cross you ;-)
The GOP needs to have more abortions.
November 12th, 2009 at 9:15 pmIt’s this kind of continous show of hypocricy that really raises my ire.
Grrrrrrrr
My alias is gonna come out. Not gonna be pretty.
November 12th, 2009 at 9:19 pmThrow your cat at someones head PD? That was pretty damn funny. Whats it like to have a cat thrown at your head?
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November 12th, 2009 at 9:23 pmIf I may. My cat has leapt from the top bookshelf to my head more than once. Not fun ;-( (downright lethal) cats should be registered weapons. lol
Has anyone told Crazy Shelly (InsaneR-Mn.) about this outrage? I would think that it would be worth 40 minutes of rambling in an empty House Chamber.
November 12th, 2009 at 9:23 pmKenneth = really, really REALLY STUPID.
November 12th, 2009 at 9:24 pmKenneth, are you related to those gentlemen that were just arrested in MO?
November 12th, 2009 at 9:26 pmIf, IF as they say, they are going to remove this option from all of their policies. How big you think that tents gonna stay?
November 12th, 2009 at 9:27 pmI guess we can sign up the stupid troll as being in favor of free condoms in every bathroom in the country. That’s the best way I can think of to prevent abortions.
November 12th, 2009 at 9:28 pmCondoms from the offering plate! GENEIOUS
November 12th, 2009 at 9:30 pmrepugs are so phony and dishonest.
November 12th, 2009 at 9:30 pmEveryone is phony and dishonest. Repugs are just the best at it.
November 12th, 2009 at 9:32 pmRandomChaos,
I was thinking more about bars and schools but free condoms at church would be hilarious. It would probably be the only place where most would be used for their intended purpose rather than for water balloons.
November 12th, 2009 at 9:34 pmRandom@78, Seems to me that your cat plans his little jump onto your head. At least your cat knows how to keep him,herself ammused.
November 12th, 2009 at 9:34 pmGod Damn! The hypocricy of these trolls is astounding! Here we have proof the Repugs offer THEIR staffers the right to abortion, but yet, KEN has the balls to lecture us and WOMEN about resposibility?? WTF??
November 12th, 2009 at 9:36 pmRedstate has an blistering post on this.
November 12th, 2009 at 9:38 pmhell@91, Too little, too late ain’t it? I mean how many women working for the RNC were able to recieve abortions? Just think how many Pro-lifers DONATED their money to an organization that was Hell bent to end abortion? This could get very ugly, very fast. Stupak opened a can of worms. Let’s see how this goes down.
November 12th, 2009 at 9:47 pmHiab,
Them people are blowin a gasket! OMG I do like this comment.
“The Republican Party is blessed with the unique ability to call in the circular firing squad at the most inopportune moments.”
Talk about another nail. This should just about do it for the RNC. Going to be interesting end of 2009.
November 12th, 2009 at 9:49 pmexactly P.D. This is going to turn into a storm. Just imagine if some of the pro-lifers start to look into if there were any women under this insurance plan who got an abortion. What an invasion of privacy.
November 12th, 2009 at 9:51 pmHas there been any comments from the DNC? What sort of Health Insurance Policies do they have? Is it similar, hell could even be the same company, what with the monopoly and all.
November 12th, 2009 at 9:52 pmLet’s not get our hopes up. The moral relativists will have this framed as an “attack from the left” within hours.
November 12th, 2009 at 9:55 pmGood question RandomChaos. It would behoove the DNC to disclose their insurance plan. Unless the RNC has a better plan.
November 12th, 2009 at 9:55 pmhell@94, Righto! In certain states, they want to identify women who have had abortions. If the Pro-Lifers were REALLY Pro-Life, they would DEMAND to know if the money they donated went to abortion services. The RNC had this coverage for EIGHTEEN years! Karma kicks ass, yet again.
November 12th, 2009 at 9:58 pmpete@96, There lies the crux, huh gentlemen? Do the Pro-Lifers want to lose face with the RNC who has been using them for years? Or will they join the ‘Tea-Baggers’ and ditch the Repug Party? For years the Repugs have sworn to get Roe vs. Wade overturned. And yet, they NEVER delivered. This will get interesting.
November 12th, 2009 at 10:02 pmSince Kenneth only dropped a single turd, and for some odd reason, there are no other trolls on this thread.
ACORN!
November 12th, 2009 at 10:03 pmRandom@100, LOL! How can they defend this? All these friggin years the RNC was supposed to be the bastion of Pro-Lifers. And now this bombshell?? After I replied to his comment on how WOMEN were irresposible, He crawled off into his hole licking his wounds (OR something).
November 12th, 2009 at 10:07 pmKenneth says:
Abortion = Screw to your hearts content…
Now that’s what I’m talking about!
…and forget about the consequences or resultant responsibility.
November 12th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
No, that’s your downfall, loser. Don’t try to pin it on anyone else.
November 12th, 2009 at 10:08 pmRandomChaos,
I’ve noticed before that the stupid trolls need to wait for Lushbo to assign them an opinion when the Reichwhiners are fighting amongst themselves. When they have to pick a side among factions of their own team they seem to fall silent pending their marching orders.
November 12th, 2009 at 10:08 pmP.D>Hiab,
November 12th, 2009 at 10:10 pmI agree, there seems to be a momentum going that way. This should be a wake up call to all. There is a serious struggle going on in the right. True colors are showing, and it ain’t pretty.
hellinabucket says:
Good question RandomChaos. It would behoove the DNC to disclose their insurance plan. Unless the RNC has a better plan.
November 12th, 2009 at 9:55 pm
Why? We’re not the ones screaming that abortion is bad, bad, very bad!
November 12th, 2009 at 10:12 pmPete, PD,
November 12th, 2009 at 10:13 pmPD did it in a single swoop. (looked like a tabby ;-)
There is no defense, and they are eating thier own at redstate. That’s hilarious.
Already MSNBC reported this. What will Morning Joe say? The so-called ‘Conservative’? Will he ignore it? This story has legs. CNN is at the bottom of the barrel. Will they have the balls to report this?
November 12th, 2009 at 10:16 pmNo Zooey, I guess I didn’t write it well. It was in jest that the RNC had a better health plan than the DNC. It wasn’t directed at abortion.
November 12th, 2009 at 10:16 pmZooey, I just thinking it would show openess and fairness. Kind of a feather? during all this “debate” about healthcare.
November 12th, 2009 at 10:16 pmOn the other hand, I would certainly enjoy the spectacle of a bunch of teabaggers carrying signs that read:
“RNC=Infanticide”
Alas, the way they excuse people like Vitter, Craig, Hagard, or even Carrie Prejean (She’s a major skank, you know?) I don’t think most of them will decide to stick to principles over a little flap like this. I think they are still too terrified of communist fascists to start being consistent at this point.
November 12th, 2009 at 10:17 pmHeh! Perhaps Bible Spice will see this an an opportunity to found a new “True Conservatic” party? That would be comedy that would have staying power.
November 12th, 2009 at 10:22 pmI will call my mother tomorrow and tell her this. She has donated money for years to the RNC because of their ‘Pro-Life’ position. I have told her for years they were using her. I don’t want to be cruel, but my daughter had a child at 17 and she WAS SO dissapointed. But when Sarah Palins daughter had a child, SHE was so brave! Unreal. I will bring my mother into the sunlight. kicking and screaming.
November 12th, 2009 at 10:23 pmSorry, hellina.
I’m behind the curve — as per usual. ;)
November 12th, 2009 at 10:23 pmThe religious right’s position has always seemed to be more about the control of sex than the protection of life. Given that they’ve elected men they know do not adhere to their idea (and in some cases most folks idea) of sexual purity, I doubt this will alter their support for republicans. All the publicans have to do is wave a flag and threaten their base with some scary muslims and all will be forgiven.
November 12th, 2009 at 10:25 pmWhile I was still thinking, pete was already writing…as usual.
November 12th, 2009 at 10:27 pmno harm no foul Zooey.
November 12th, 2009 at 10:30 pmOutstandingInMyField,
Some things are worth saying more than once.
November 12th, 2009 at 10:37 pmMake no mistake, execution is still their favored form of birth control.
November 12th, 2009 at 10:41 pmOh, this is schadenfreude with hot fudge, whipped cream and lots of nuts!
November 12th, 2009 at 10:44 pmI’m sure everyone here will sleep much better tonight,
knowing that the RNC and their family members
have coverage for elective abortions.
It’s kind of a social security for society.
November 12th, 2009 at 10:48 pmThis stuff just writes itself.
November 12th, 2009 at 10:53 pmI’m fairly certain that those teabaggers who are finding out that the money they’ve been giving to the RNC is going to an insurance policy that pays for abortions is going to drive them crazy. got that okie?
November 12th, 2009 at 10:55 pmGood Night my TP brethren, see you on the morn..
November 12th, 2009 at 10:55 pmG’nite PD…I and my recently acquired latest preexisting condition are off to bed as well.
November 12th, 2009 at 11:02 pmOh, that’s the best part, hellinabucket.
What a delicious little bomb to drop on the local teabagging flame throwers.
November 12th, 2009 at 11:03 pmEven people who claim to have the moral high ground and are proven liars, need to have a backdoor escape button in-case of something “unwanted” they can’t explain with easy public coddling words and empty catchphrases.
November 13th, 2009 at 12:00 amKenneth YOU are a liar and a moron. You are just stupid. You spew the idiocy that you were told to think and are so stupid you believe. STFU. You are just flat out too stupid to contribute to any adult conversations
November 13th, 2009 at 12:00 am“RNC employee health insurance plan covers abortion”
That’s some GOP coverage and “family values.” GOP don’t want what the gummit to run healthcare program yet deny women’s rights for coverage for abortion. Yet, GOP’s health insurance covers abortion. No wonder there so much shagging going on within the GOP party. Keep it classy…
November 13th, 2009 at 12:21 amdoes anyone have the screen-shot, cached, or original article from Politico?
they have since updated it
“RNC to opt out of abortion coverage — Updated: 11/13/09 12:12 AM EST”
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Shoot, I only got to the posts in the 40’s and I am impelled to comment.
The anti-choice folks are just that – and the Republicans have been pandering to this minority for years, not because they want to overturn R versus W — no, just because it gets the Gop some votes. That’s it and has always been that way.
Today, a woman facing an unwanted pregnancy can go and buy a $500 pill that will terminate a pregnancy. The pill is good; the price is punitive and out of reach for many women who need it. We know that unwanted children create problems for all of us – and the only ones who can decide are fertile women. The big bad white boys in the Republican/christofascist party can’t handle that. Where will their cannon fodder come from? End of story
November 13th, 2009 at 12:41 amoops, impelled = compelled. red, red wine….
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Kenneth. You are a liar and an incredibly stupid pile of dogshit. Why should my vocabulary change? STUPId describes you just as well today as the first post you ever made. For instance. You seem to imply that Debs had some mental problem. He didnt. He was dying he went to a hospital to get what today we would call hospice care. My GOD you are stupid. Doesnt it bother you to show so many people how mind bogglingly stupid you are day after day? A normal human would be embarassed to parade such profound stupidity. I guess you subhuman morons are just without the gene for shame or you are just too unalterably stupid to even understand the depths of your stupidity
November 13th, 2009 at 12:50 amYeah Kenneth. Debs was also a labor leader and the labor movement ISNT dead. My GOD you are stupid. Just STFU and let the adults talk
November 13th, 2009 at 12:51 amKennneth
What MONUMENTAL stupidity
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Kenneth says:
This is America and I have every right to speak!
You’re right. But we don’t have to listen to you. That’s another freedom we enjoy in America. So don’t whine like a byotch when you get voted down troll.
November 13th, 2009 at 1:09 am@ 77. Kenneth says: This comment has been voted down. Click to read. Abortion = Screw to your hearts content and forget about the consequences or resultant responsibility. November 12th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
Thanks for letting us know that you have issues with human sexuality, kennie. ya get any lately?
No, kennie, it’s called abortion if you’re a poor, lower class, or lower middle class woman and not a Republipimp or the wife, mistress, girlfriend, or lover of a Republipimp.
If you are a (female) Republipimp or the wife, mistress, girlfriend, or lover of a Republipimp, and you fall somewhere in the upper middle class to upper class range, it’s called a D&C and it’s done in the privacy of a non-public clinic where patients rights are observed and where Randall Perry and Operation Rescue never go.
The “pro-life” crowd isn’t in the business of intimidating their social and economic betters, kennie, they’re in the business of making life hell for people like themselves. Well, they wouldn’t mind dictating how everyone lives, but they’ll settle for making people in socio-economic situations similar to their own, miserable.
November 13th, 2009 at 1:12 amRepublicans oppose abortion. Why can’t they support euthanasia for their members? That would make the people of the US more healthy at less cost to our economy!
November 13th, 2009 at 1:40 amKenneth
Sure you have every right to speak and show everyone how astonishingly stupid you are and I have every right to tell you to STFU since you are too stupid to contribute to an adult conversation. So STFU. You are too stupid to contribute to an adult conversation.
November 13th, 2009 at 2:30 amKenneth the STUPIDEST subhuman moron on the block is opting out. Good the stupid was making my eyes hurt
November 13th, 2009 at 2:32 amOh shite — sorry Kenneth, you appear close to a friggin stroke. But yes, unwanted children grow up to be angry, hateful and destructive people. Rings a bell? The fertile women are the “deciders” on this one… get over it. You will never be pregnant, you will never create life, you will never choose what is best for all involved. You are incapable. Pray to your friggin god!!!
November 13th, 2009 at 2:32 amIt’s no great surprise to learn that traitors are also hypocrites.
November 13th, 2009 at 5:36 amKenneth says:
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BTW. Eugene V. Debs is Dead and so is the Socialist movement in this Country
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BTW. Ronald Reagan is dead and so is the repug movement in this country.
November 13th, 2009 at 6:33 amI apologize in advance if someone said this in the 147 posts before me, but the Rethugs do NOT want abortion to become illegal. It’s their main selling point to all of the fundie whack-jobs out there who form their base. Abortion goes away, and there’s no red meat for the fundies to rail about.
Now let’s hope the Dem leadership grows a pair and really uses this against the Rethugs. Show the country once and for all what a lying bunch of hypocrites the Reich Wingers are.
November 13th, 2009 at 7:36 amDave N says:
I apologize in advance if someone said this in the 147 posts before me, but the Rethugs do NOT want abortion to become illegal.
November 13th, 2009 at 7:36 am
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It’s been said many times and needs to be said many times more. The carrot is useless once you let the donkey eat it.
November 13th, 2009 at 7:48 amI find it very questionable that the RNC has had this insurance policy in place for the last 18 years and no one knew that abortion was a part of their benefits.
November 13th, 2009 at 8:11 amI think Republicans should have to notify and get permission from Pat Robertson to proceed with an abortion under their RNC healthcare plan.
November 13th, 2009 at 8:14 amEveryday now something extremely hypocritical comes out about Republican leadership.
DO THESE FASCIST/RACIST WAR-MONGERING CHICKEN-HAWKS HAVE NO SHAME?
November 13th, 2009 at 8:29 amWell i am guessing this will come up went the stupack amendment comes back up.
November 13th, 2009 at 9:03 ambe hard for the 15 or so Dem’s to stand behind it, well at lease 35 of the so call 40 he suppose to have in his corner.
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Look, I can’t stand the so-called religious right anymore than anyone else here. But please – please – don’t assume all of us who are religious fall into that category. I don’t care what you do or don’t believe in; I’m not a big believer in trying to convert folks, and I don’t think that people who don’t believe just like me (or believe at all) are looking for a good roasting after they die. I have always made a strong effort to be as tolerant as I can of people, even when they don’t extend the same courtsey to me. But it’s bad enough that I get all sorts of crap from nutjobs like my in-laws, who believe those pre-flood humans hung with the dinosaurs and have said that my parents will burn in hell for voting for Obama. I really hate coming here, my lone blue refuge in this ridiculously red state, and getting it on this end, too, because the nutjobs have smeared the term “Christian” for the rest of us.
November 13th, 2009 at 9:09 amI wonder if the RNC or any of its employees got a lower premium when they dropped the abortion coverage. If so, then we would have some idea of how much it costs to provide such coverage.
November 13th, 2009 at 9:14 amLast week, 176 House Republicans joined with 64 Democrats in voting for the so-called Stupak amendment, which could “could effectively stop many employer-provided health insurance plans from covering abortions for tens of millions of Americans” and restrict any private plan in the insurance exchange from offering abortion coverage. However, Politico reports today that the RNC’s own employee health care plan covers elective abortion — “a procedure the party’s own platform calls ‘a fundamental assault on innocent human life’”…According to several Cigna employees, the insurer offers its customers the opportunity to opt out of abortion coverage —- and the RNC did not choose to opt out.
Oh, I see…so the Republicans feel that elective abortion is something which should be reserved solely for the wealthy and powerful elite of their party while denied to the rabble. Is that it? Do they honestly expect us to believe that not one Republican in the past eighteen years has known that their insurance plan covers elective abortion, even while they’ve been taking campaign contributions from the Religious Right???
Mm, hm…riiiiiiiiiiiiiight. And if you believe that, I happen to know about a bridge here in New York City which has just been put up for sale at a very reasonable price.
All together now (sung to the tune of “Bingo”)…
“I-O-K-I-Y-A-R…
I-O-K-I-Y-A-R…
I-O-K-I-Y-A-R…
It’s o-kay if you’re a Re-Pub-Li-Caaaaaan!”
Even if by some remote chance it is true, it doesn’t paint the RNC in a good light since it clearly implies that the people who have been hired to administrate the plan over the last eighteen years either weren’t vetted sufficiently or really haven’t been paying as much attention to their jobs as they should have been. It also suggests that Republicans as a rule are inattentive, since one would be inclined to think that there would have been more objection to the fact that the party’s insurance plan covers a procedure which a sizable number of its members claim to oppose. Let’s face it…the RNC failure to opt out of coverage for elective abortions in their insurance policy when they claim to be opposed to abortion in principle would be about on a par with PETA failing to return financial contributions from the fur trade…
Recently it was also revealed that the health insurance plan used by the right-wing, anti-choice organization Focus on the Family also covered “abortion services.”
Feel free to correct me if I’m wrong…but if memory serves, Jesus of Nazareth didn’t look too kindly on hypocrites. All the criticisms cited above equally apply here…why did Focus On The Family give money to an insurance company which permits abortion at all (let alone to them) if they believe it’s wrong, and why did they apparently fail to opt out?
The RNC has announced that it will no longer offer employees an insurance plan that covers abortion. “Money from our loyal donors should not be used for this purpose,” Chairman Michael Steele said in a statement. “I don’t know why this policy existed in the past, but it will not exist under my administration. Consider this issue settled.”
Translation: “Oh, @#$%^&…they’re onto us. We don’t have a choice anymore — we have to change the policy if we want to have any hope of maintaining our credibility.”
Someone in the media should keep an eye on this one and hold their feet to the fire to make certain that they (finally) start practicing what they preach…
November 13th, 2009 at 9:51 amMy goodness. The irony of this is so thick you could cut it like butter. And the fact it took 18 years and a group of left-blog bloggers to point this out – both with the GOP and FotF – is hilarious.
November 13th, 2009 at 9:57 amThis is why it’s important to distinguish between Christians and Christianistas. I use the term Christianistas to describe the racist, white-winger, hate filled so-called “Christians.”
Unfortunately the Chrisianistas do not subscribe to this approach. They see the world in limited, ignorant terms.
You need to end your tolerance of the Christianistas and speak out against them at every opportunity.
I feel sorry for you. Realize that it is impossible to scrape the stupidity and ignorance from a Chrisianista. Facts and science will do you no good in this effort.
Again, speak out against it. Gather other true Christians of like mind into groups to fight the ignorance. We can not give you back your religion. You and other true Christians must fight to take it back. The deafening silence of the true Christians has allowed this damage to occur.
November 13th, 2009 at 10:35 amMost GOP politicians are out and out frauds, I roughly estimate 95%.
November 13th, 2009 at 10:47 amDems, maybe 75-80%.
Time to drive a stake through the GOP’s vampire heart.
A lot of Dems need a good kick in the ass, also.
That party also needs a good house cleaning to take out the trash (corporate whores).
It’s OK to be a hypocrite if you stop when you get caught.
November 13th, 2009 at 10:50 amI have had so many different responses typed out to this comment that I have deleted, because all of them were just too angry and counterproductive. So let me leave it with two things:
1) No one has ever, nor will ever, accuse me of being shy about my opinions. Just because I don’t feel the need to be an @sshat to get those opinions across doesn’t mean I don’t voice them. So don’t assume I’m not speaking up and out to the hijackers of my religion; one voice against a hurricane happens to be really hard to hear.
2) I speak up no matter who I think is doing the unfair painting of an entire group. So that other post was me, speaking out against it happening here. I think that other post I referenced said I should NEVER have ANY health care because I attend church; why I should I not point out how ridiculous that argument is?
November 13th, 2009 at 11:10 amIs there a way to find out how many times the Elective Abortion insurance was used by the RNC? No names, just a number…
November 13th, 2009 at 11:27 amAmen Allyouneed!!
And here’s a fun fact – Glide Memorial (Methodist church in SF) has condoms in the narthex (that’s lobby to you laymen).
November 13th, 2009 at 12:33 pmSure. Steele is so powerful he can amend the coverages in a group healthcare plan with a wave of a wand. Liars.
November 13th, 2009 at 1:01 pmKenneth says:
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Green,
We know that unwanted children create problems for all of us – ..
What selfish IRRESPONSIBILITY!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kenneth and the The RNC: because you’re not a s1ut if you’re not rich…/snark
Sorry, this is what their platform essentially states…and since Kenneth has no problem with abortion if done by rich people…
November 13th, 2009 at 1:18 pmKenneth says:
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Abortion = Screw to your hearts content and forget about the consequences or resultant responsibility.
What about rape and incest victims?
November 13th, 2009 at 1:22 pm18 years ago, abortion wasn’t such a hot-button issue. Anti-abortionists were perceived as idiots. Back then, even the GOP mainstream wasn’t listening. Once they figured they could wring some votes out of it, they decided it was immoral.
November 13th, 2009 at 3:09 pmIf you do not want a baby KEEP YOUR LEGS CLOSED. How hard can that be. If you find yourself pregnant and do not want the CHILD/BABY/SMALL PERSON/NEW LIFE/ A GIFT then give it up for adoption. Give the poor BABY the chance to live! Who could be cruel enough to MURDER pure innocents. Every WOMAN does have a choice. The choice is to spread her legs and get pregnant with a child she does not want or to use some form of birth control or no sex at all. If you are a woman and are having sex and do not want a baby and cannot afford birth control maybe you should give up sex.
November 13th, 2009 at 3:50 pmTake it up with the RNC, stupid trolls. Ask them why they have been paying for abortions for nearly 20 years. Then, if you really want to discuss the issue, you will have to define the moment where a zygote, blatocyst, or fetus becomes a “baby”.
I’m dead set against killing babies but I have very little rational reason to assign babyhood to preterm fetuses, especially in the first few weeks when the overwhelming majority of abortions are performed. I know that science means nothing to fundies but the vast majority of people on this planet need some justification for a given opinion.
Then, I suggest a review of the Constitution and other founding documents of our country. I can’t seem to remember the part where women have to abide by the morality of others or surrender personal decisions to anybody.
November 13th, 2009 at 5:37 pmIf you do not want a baby KEEP YOUR LEGS CLOSED. How hard can that be. If you find yourself pregnant and do not want the CHILD/BABY/SMALL PERSON/NEW LIFE/ A GIFT then give it up for adoption. Give the poor BABY the chance to live! Who could be cruel enough to MURDER pure innocents. Every WOMAN does have a choice. The choice is to spread her legs and get pregnant with a child she does not want or to use some form of birth control or no sex at all. If you are a woman and are having sex and do not want a baby and cannot afford birth control maybe you should give up sex. — Soldier_Girl
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Let’s just go over the flaws in your argument one by one, shall we?
1) Last time I checked, women do not get pregnant all by themselves. Yes, women should take more responsibility for their own sexuality and take precautions to avoid pregnancy if they’re not ready to have a child or not able to support one…but so should men! There are male forms of birth control, after all. Yes, I realize some men dislike wearing condoms…but some of the female versions of birth control aren’t exactly a day at the beach either, especially since none of them are 100% effective even under optimal conditions. Sex with a condom might not be as much fun — but then again, finding out you’ve fathered a child you don’t want is even less fun (and it can be a lot more costly over the long haul). Since men do take part in pregnancy, it seems a little irresponsible to passively assume and expect that a woman shoulder all the responsibility for birth control. A man can’t control whether or not a woman chooses to take responsibility for herself, but he does (or should) have control over himself. If he chooses not to exert it, the pregnancy is as much his fault as the woman’s — case closed!
2) Women aren’t the only ones who make the decision whether or not to abort the child. I remember reading a report years ago about a fifteen-year-old teenage girl whose father was pressuring her to have an abortion against her will. Why? Because he was the father of her child. For that matter, how many men have given their lovers or girlfriends money and insisted that they to get an abortion (or worse, simply abandoned them) when they found out that they had fathered a child they didn’t want? Furthermore, how do you propose that society take care of all the extra children? Considering that perhaps as many as one out of every five American children live in poverty, that one out of every four American girls has been sexually abused (which often leads to sexual promiscuity as an adult), and that one out of every two American children will spend some time on food stamps before the age of eighteen…it frankly doesn’t sound to me as if we’re doing an adequate job addressing the needs of the children we already have.
3) For your information, many of the very same people who are opposed to abortion are also opposed to sex education. They believe that teaching people (especially young people) about sex will encourage them to have sex and contract diseases or become pregnant. However, the statistics not only don’t bear this out — they suggest that the reverse is more likely to be true. How else do you explain the fact that the states in which abstinence education is prevalent are also some of the same states with higher rates of teenage pregnancy? Since some forms of birth control act by preventing the fertilized egg from implanting and they believe that human life should be protected from the moment of conception — this despite the fact that the rate of conception to implantation is not 1:1 even without birth control, but may be as high as 3:1.
Paradoxically (and hypocritically), these people are actually opposing the most rational means of preventing abortion.
4) At least historically, the most reliable forms of female contraception have generally been costly and have required the consent of a medical professional. Oral contraceptives require a prescription. A visit to the gynecologist is necessary in order to have an IUD inserted or a cervical cap fitted (and the latter are inadvisable for women who suffer from weight fluctuation, since a gain or loss of as little a ten pounds can affect the effectiveness of a diaphragm or cervical cap). Until recently, condoms have been one of the only cost-effective and readily-available birth control options for low-income women.
5) Rightly or wrongly, sex (particularly casual sex) has been glamorized and overemphasized in our cultural media but there has been comparatively little emphasis on responsibility and the natural consequences of sexual activity. Over the past several decades, we have become a society which believes in and practically worships the idea of instant gratification — it’s actually one of the reasons why we’re in the financial mess we are now. When a meme or belief permeates a society to this degree, everything is affected…and sexuality is no exception. Sex is also one of the few forms of pleasure and entertainment which just about everyone is free to experience and enjoy regardless of their income.
In conclusion…life is a lot more complex than people like you want to acknowledge, which is why the simple solutions that you’re so fond of proposing are generally insufficient to address its problems.
November 13th, 2009 at 5:54 pmSoldiergirl
YOU are stupid. You seek out the simplest bumper sticker available to invest your simpleminded support in. If the world were as simple as your substandard brain the inane idiocy you spew would be relevant. It isnt. You are just stuch a MORON you THINK it is. I pity you. You are never going to have the intellectual capacity to understand anything to you will keep making a fool out of yourself and actually delude yourself into believing you are making cogent points. You stupid and sad and your worldview is pathetic. IF the day ever comes you gain about 50 IQ points or find a soul somewhere. One that cares more about PEOPLE than your selfishness based ideology you MIGHT have something worthwhile to say. Until then you are just sad.
November 15th, 2009 at 5:31 pm