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G. Gordon Liddy Says ‘I’m Convinced’ That ‘Barack Obama Is A Muslim,’ Gary Bauer Doesn’t Disagree

G. Gordon Liddy and Gary BauerOn his radio show today, G. Gordon Liddy hosted former Republican presidential candidate Gary Bauer to discuss his Human Events column on the Fort Hood massacre, in which Bauer — echoing his close personal friend Bill Kristol — declared that “[p]olitical correctness has been radical Islam’s greatest asset in its war against America. Let’s execute it.” “Accommodation of Islam pervades our schools,” added Bauer in his column.

In the beginning of their discussion, Liddy said that political correctness towards Islam “precedes the Obama administration” because President Bush proclaimed that “Islam is a religion of peace.” “You know that’s just not true,” said Liddy. Later in the conversation, after Bauer complained that Obama’s Homeland Security adviser John Brennan would lead the investigation into what the U.S. intelligence community knew about Nidal Malik Hasan before his attack, Liddy announced his belief that President Obama “is a Muslim”:

LIDDY: I’m convinced that despite his protestations to the contrary, that Barack Obama is a Muslim. I don’t believe that he’s a Christian at all. I believe he’s a Muslim.

BAUER: Well, you know the church that he famously or infamously attended was, was odd in many ways. Not only the rantings of its pastor, the clear racist rantings of its pastor, which the President chose to listen to year after year with his family and his children. You know something that still in my view has never been adequately explained. But it was also a church that had some real strange ideas about Islam and Christianity. I’ve seen a number of suggestions that there were many people in the congregation that considered themselves both Christian and Muslim. Something that I’m sure both real Christians and real Muslims would deny is possible.

Not only did Bauer not disagree with Liddy’s claim that Obama is lying about his Christianity, he went on to praise Liddy’s contribution to America’s political debate. “You do an outstanding job on your show bringing people the information they need,” said Bauer. “I commend you for the good work you do every day.” Listen to it here:

It’s not surprising that Liddy would hold such a fringe view. After all, he is a prominent birther who thinks that Obama is an “illegal alien.” Bauer, on the other hand, has previously written that he doesn’t want to “question the sincerity of Obama’s faith.” But in playing along with Liddy, that’s exactly what he has done.



192 Responses to “G. Gordon Liddy Says ‘I’m Convinced’ That ‘Barack Obama Is A Muslim,’ Gary Bauer Doesn’t Disagree”

  1. Ape-Man says:

    Liddy is a convicted felon


  2. MapleStreet says:

    Doesn’t G Gordon Liddy have some sort of felony conviction dealing with an abuse of his position ?

    So why do we think he is all of a sudden an honest talking person ?


  3. BrianFL says:

    I’m convinced, based on his past comments, that G. Gordon Liddy is a domestic terrorist who admitted to advising Nixon to murder an American reporter.


  4. Ape-Man says:

    Liddy is part of the gang that ruined everything.

    Cheney will not recall any of this.


  5. Mike71654 says:

    So what if he is? Ever hear of FREEDOM of religion…typical Republican hypocrite idiot.


  6. Dave N says:

    G. Gordon Liddy makes Glenn Beck look sane.


  7. Jackie says:

    I’m convinced G. Gordon Liddy is a convicted felon and committed Treason against the United States of America. I’m convinced G. Gordon Liddy played a major rule in Watergate and had GOP Law Makers helped him get off easy. Now we see Convicted Felons can get good jobs and even get Americans to believe their lies. Look for Scooter Libby to come forward. Who know G. Gordon Liddy might even become US President the way things are going in the US.


  8. Dave N says:

    I kid, of course.


  9. Cats r Flyfishn says:

    Cats r Flyfishn says “I’m convinced that G Gordon Liddy is a convicted felon, convicted for crimes against our nation and has no credibility and should be banned from public speaking, forever.”


  10. P.D. says:

    This whole ‘Obama is a Muslim’ thing has been SO played. Can’t they come up with anything else? Oh yeah, they practically threw everything they got at him. ‘Socialist’, ‘Marxist’, Communist’… They are running out of ists.


  11. Chickenbone Bill says:

    One political dirtbag massaging another religious dirtbag’s ego!


  12. EnnuiDivine says:

    It’s pretty sad to think that Liddy’s most lucid years were when he was a hired thug in the employment of the CIA to burglarize the Watergate Hotel.

    He’s been in a 36yr decline since then.

    And Gary Bauer is a fool who managed to come off as a religious extremist in a Presidential election that featured Bush, Alan Keyes, and Pat Buchanan.


  13. raynman says:

    The fact that G. Gordon Liddy is walking free today is an embarrassment to the judicial system in this country…


  14. Kenneth says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  15. EnnuiDivine says:

    8. Dave N,

    No, he really does. Beck is, by his own admission, a rodeo clown. A hired jester. He’s a fraud.

    Liddy is legitimately deranged. And really should’ve had his ass thrown back into prison for threatening the lives of federal agents back in the 1990s


  16. NinerFan says:

    G. Gordon Liddy is a terrorist. Remember, he told his listeners that if ATF agents entered their homes they should respond with “head shots” because the agents would be wearing bullet proof vests.


  17. pags2 says:

    This is just more fodder for the Fixxed News crowd.


  18. Kenneth says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  19. Cats r Flyfishn says:

    BAUER: Well, you know the church that he famously or infamously attended was, was odd in many ways.

    As if the Fundamentalist/Rapture Ready/Witch Doctor church of Sarah Palin isn’t odd in many ways. As a matter of fact, Sarah Palin and her girlfriend Michelle Bachman are odd in many ways.


  20. EnnuiDivine says:

    Kenneth,

    You believed Larry Sinclair, didntcha?

    Put your tin-foil hat back on and go back to your bomb shelter.


  21. Fred says:

    Kenneth, I’m convinced that you are an idiot.

    anyone concur?


  22. P.D. says:

    This whole ‘Obama is a Muslim’ thing has been debunked time and again. So the troll brings up Wright. WTF? Can’t these trolls have a SANE argument? Wright was never convicted of a crime was he? But Liddy sure was. I guess that is a little fact the trolls overlook.


  23. Kenneth says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  24. P.D. says:

    Fred@21, YES!! There is nothing worse than an idiot troll.


  25. lokidog says:

    BAUER: Well, you know the church that he famously or infamously attended was, was odd in many ways.

    Why, yes, so “odd”: they don’t burn politicians in effigy, they didn’t have a “bring your gun to church” Sunday, they don’t pray/wish for our president to die, they don’t pray for violence against doctors engaged in legal activities, they didn’t have a pastor spreading hate against gays (and then using drugs and hanging with male prostitutes)….

    Yep, “odd” only to the hate filled, lunatic fringe right.


  26. okie dokie says:

    Would it appear too “unAmerican” for there to be a disclaimer
    before the political opinions of a convicted criminal of political conspiracy
    are aired to the nation’s ears?


  27. zuch says:

    I’m convinced that George Gordon Battle Liddy is a fascist scumbucket idiotic convicted criminal. There’s more evidence for that.

    Cheers,


  28. EnnuiDivine says:

    Fred says:

    ——————————————————————————–

    Kenneth, I’m convinced that you are an idiot.

    anyone concur?

    Seconded. Can I get a concurrence up in here?


  29. jb says:

    Liddy is a $hitstain in the toilet bowl of humanity.


  30. Gregor Samsa says:

    I’m convinced that despite his protestations to the contrary, that Barack Obama is a Muslim.

    That’s because you are an idiot and so is anyone who agrees with you.


  31. chiroptera toasterhead says:

    Kenneth says:

    President Obama admits it himself.

    November 13th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
    _____________

    In what statement? When he said “peace be unto you?” That he grew up around Muslims in a Muslim country? That he has respect for Islam?

    Interesting logic. I grew up around a woman. I have respect for women. Obviously this means I’m a woman.

    My wife is going to be very surprised to find this out.


  32. jb says:

    Kenneth is idiot enough to lick the $hitstain and call it delicious.


  33. Kenneth says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  34. Dave N says:

    Fred says:

    Kenneth, I’m convinced that you are an idiot.

    anyone concur?

    I was convinced a while ago.


  35. chiroptera toasterhead says:

    Kenneth says:

    Not my point. If Obama admits to being a Muslim and attends a Christian church, what is he?

    November 13th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
    ___________

    A Mistian, obviously. Or a Chrislim. Take your pick.

    Not that it matters, because he has not admitted to being a Muslim. Which would also not matter, except to right-wing lunatics.

    Again I ask – when did he “admit” to being a Muslim?


  36. Kenneth says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  37. Gregor Samsa says:

    Fred says:
    anyone concur?

    Absolutely.


  38. P.D. says:

    Ken@30, Don’t disemble with me. I know the game. You use fragments of different things then you try to be philosophical. It doesn’t work. Instead of being the idiot troll you usually are, you try to appear logical. That’s from the Repug handbook. We ain’t buying it!


  39. noseeum says:

    Do you remember Watergate, Kenneth?


  40. NinerFan says:

    Fred: “anyone concur?”

    No question about it! Kenneth is, indeed, an idiot.


  41. chiroptera toasterhead says:

    Kenneth says:

    On this site i are an idiot and get thrashed for sure.

    November 13th, 2009 at 4:23 pm
    _________

    In what statement did President Obama “admit” to being a Muslim?

    In the video you linked, he “admitted” to having family members who are Muslims and/or live in a majority Muslim country. Sure, you can deliberately misinterpret his “I am one of them” to mean “I am a Muslim,” instead of the intended “I am an American with family members who are Muslims and/or live in a majority Muslim country,” but that would make you an idiot and get thrashed for sure, as you stated.


  42. Luis Chapulin M says:

    Kenneth says:
    PD,
    Not my point. If Obama admits to being a Muslim and attends a Christian church, what is he?

    The President of the United States of America.

    SO, what is our Presidents beliefs? Or does he really have any other than a Socialist agenda and wealth redistribution?

    “Rarely is the question asked… is our children learning?” – George W. Bush


  43. paleolib says:

    Who the hell listens to Gordon Liddy’s radio program (aside from some poor TP intern)? People with three heads and two teeth?


  44. EnnuiDivine says:

    Kenneth,

    You just don’t get it. There’s a difference between those who have a different point of view and respectfully engage in dialogue…and worthless trolls like yourself, who come to a progressive site for the sole purpose of trying to rile people up.


  45. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    .

    Dear Kenneth,

    Which is it?
    Are you mad that the democratically elected POTUS is half white…
    … Or that he passes as a black man?

    .


  46. Gregor Samsa says:

    Kenneth babbles:
    No room for courteous debate for sure.

    I haven’t seen you even try to have a courteous debate.

    You are clearly here get a reaction. Don’t be such a crybaby now that you got it.


  47. Fred says:

    Kenneth says:
    Not my point.

    Stop being an idiot. You don’t have a point. A persons religion or lack of is none of your business.

    I refrained from cursing but it was hard to do.


  48. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    .

    Someone needs to inform TREASON LIDDY that in the USA, NO POLITICAL TESTS SHALL BE REQUIRED TO HOLD OFFICE.

    .


  49. dasm says:

  50. chiroptera toasterhead says:

    Max Anax junius -1 says:

    Someone needs to inform TREASON LIDDY that in the USA, NO POLITICAL TESTS SHALL BE REQUIRED TO HOLD OFFICE.

    November 13th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
    _________

    I think you mean “religious tests,” right?


  51. Fred says:

    Kenneth says:
    BTW,
    On this site when you have a different point of view you are an idiot and get thrashed. No room for courteous debate for sure.

    boy oh boy, it didn’t take long for kenny to jump the shark and claim to be the victim.

    He came to a thread where liars are the subject of the thread and they are claiming that obama is a Muslim.

    It’s none of their business to begin with and it’s a lie to boot.

    Here’s kenny boys first post:

    kenny sez:
    President Obama admits it himself.

    and even the link makes a liar out of him. Yet he wants to claim that he has been a courteous debater.

    irony.


  52. dasm says:

    Liddy is a criminal– why do we care about him?


  53. chiroptera toasterhead says:

    Hey Kenneth,

    Still waiting for the statement in which our President “admits” to being a Muslim. What’s the ETA on that?


  54. okie dokie says:

    Thank you, Kenneth @4:08, for posting that Christian Coalition propaganda video that is making the rounds on e-mail,
    by way of church sheeple, this fall.
    I recieved this the other day, from a 75 year old relative, that never had any political interests, until lately.
    She just goes to the same church she’s been attending, all her life.
    This manipulation of opinion by way of fear inducing propaganda
    makes me sick to my stomach.

    How can this not be sedition?


  55. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    .

    #36 Kenneth,
    Yours is not just a differing opinion…
    … You’re WACKO!

    YOU are the “CONSPIRACY THEORIST” now!

    .


  56. Purple State says:

    Kenneth says:

    BTW,
    On this site when you have a different point of view you are an idiot and get thrashed. No room for courteous debate for sure.

    Well, that’s what happens when you cross over into uncharted territory and provide different views. I once was like you, Ken, and crossed into RedState territory to provide a peaceful alternate view.

    Got thrown out on my ass.

    If you don’t like the fire that gets breathed at you, Ken, why are you talking to dragons?


  57. Max Anax junius -1 says:

    Toasterhead,
    DUH!

    NO Religious tests for political office is what I meant.

    .


  58. Fred says:

    okie dokie says:
    I recieved this the other day, from a 75 year old relative, that never had any political interests, until lately.
    She just goes to the same church she’s been attending, all her life.

    attend, record, file on them. 7 churches have closed down in our area because we filed on them:

    It takes a little time……couple of months but they will be investigated and if you have them on tape, they will fold.

    http://www.irs.gov/irs/article/0,,id=178241,00.html


  59. TheLiberalMedia says:

    I am convinced Liddy is a convicted felon.

    Because he is.


  60. pilotx says:

    This comes from someone who is obviously not from Chicago. I have many friends who are members of Trinity United Church of God. This church is not “weird”, “hateful” or “racist”. He should attend the church before making comments. I would ask, who do you know who is both Muslim and Christian who attends this church? Yes, there are people of other faiths that attend Trinity. What is so wrong with that? C’mon, this is a mainstream church who’s members included Oprah Winfrey. Stop demonizing something you don’t understand.


  61. Mathazar says:

    Realistcally, how can anyone know the beliefs of another person ?

    Unless you’re a mind reader, you have no idea what someone
    believes, if anything.

    Back during the Spanish inquisition, everyone had to pretend to be Christian, or be hanged, burned, or beheaded.


  62. missmolly says:

    Let’s take a look at Bauer’s gibberish — is there anything he said that makes sense?

    “Not only the rantings of its pastor, the clear racist rantings of its pastor…”
    – Clear racist? He pointed out some very real racial discrimination issues in this country. There are some who disagree with what he said, but the level of racism doesn’t compare with rants I’ve heard from white hate groups. At no time did Wright specifically slur whites. At least, not in any of the YouTube clips or other media that we’ve been exposed to.

    “…which the President chose to listen to year after year with his family and his children.”
    – Wright had been preaching for over 20 years, and all that surfaced was a few seconds culled from a lifetime of work. This is not evidence that Wright spewed hatred from the pulpit “year after year”.

    “You know something that still in my view has never been adequately explained.”
    – This ought to be good. It’s tough to “adequately” explain anything to narrow-minded dim bulbs who refuse to listen to anything their ears don’t want to hear…

    “But it was also a church that had some real strange ideas about Islam and Christianity.”
    – Oh, really? And he knows this…how?

    “I’ve seen a number of suggestions that there were many people in the congregation that considered themselves both Christian and Muslim.”
    – Suggestions? He’s “seen” suggestions? Where, pray tell, are these suggestions? Why should we believe this isn’t something he just pulled out of his @ss?

    “Something that I’m sure both real Christians and real Muslims would deny is possible.”
    – Ah, finally something that could make sense, if it wasn’t in the context of the other drivel. Since Christians believe in the divinity of Jesus and Muslims don’t, it would be very difficult for somebody to be both at the same time. But this brings up something else — does this mean that Barack Obama is a Muslim, but not a “real” one? These pinheads really need to get their vitriolic talking points straightened out so they don’t contradict each other.


  63. chiroptera toasterhead says:

    Actually, I’d like to thank Kenneth for posting that video, as it disproves the other right-wing meme about President Obama being able to “perfectly recite the Muslim call to prayer.”

    He can’t, as proven by the bit where he says as-salaamu alaikum at the University of Cairo, which literally means “peace for example all of you.”

    What he was trying to say, of course, was as-salaamu 3alaikum, which means “peace be unto you,” but he mispronounced the ع. Understandably so, as the voiced pharyngeal fricative is a very difficult sound for non-native speakers to produce. But it’s one he’d be required to say many times when reciting the adhaan. If he can’t do it in the most basic Arabic phrase, he can’t do it in the adhaan. Simple as that.

    So thank you Kenneth, for dealing the death-blow to your own argument. I truly appreciate it. :)


  64. Fred says:

    toasterhead would you share the bit of code you surround your unicode text with?


  65. missmolly says:

    Kenneth says
    November 13th, 2009 at 4:16 pm

    Who is Larry Sinclair?
    ____________________________________________________________

    Google it yourself — we’re not here to do your homework for you.


  66. kasinca says:

    Liddy is a convicted felon and Gary Bauer is an @sshat nut.


  67. Leftside Annie says:

    BAUER: Well, you know the church that he famously or infamously attended was, was odd in many ways.

    Shorter Bauer: Ewww!!! *Black* people go there!!!!!!!!


  68. Chyron HR says:

    Kenneth says:

    On this site when you have a different point of view you are an idiot

    No, Kenny, you’re an idiot everywhere, but your fellow teabaggers are too stupid to notice.


  69. chiroptera toasterhead says:

    Fred says:

    toasterhead would you share the bit of code you surround your unicode text with?
    November 13th, 2009 at 4:49 pm

    __________

    I convert it to decimal numeric character reference. For example, the letter ع becomes ع before pasting it in the comment box, and it then converts back to ع instead of ???s when I post.


  70. Mr.Duke says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  71. okie dokie says:

    Thank you, Fred.
    I haven’t responded to her yet, and she lives in a different town, so I may have to enlist assistance.
    I have no doubt that this kind of bs affected the turnout of our local races here, this week, as well. Have you noticed that the collection of tax revenue in Oklahoma has shrunk to the point that most of the advertising you see here is for mega-churches?
    It’s really effecting the operation of schools and government.


  72. noseeum says:

    Very deep thoughts there, Mr. Dupe.


  73. dbadass says:

    that you are a hardcore muslim when your women are treated like 3rd class humans-


    See I thought that was a Mormom thing…


  74. chiroptera toasterhead says:

    Wow – someone actually voted down my post about numeric character references.

    Damn hexadecimal purists…


  75. dbadass says:

    Damn if those two aren’t a pair of chuckleheads…


  76. Fred says:

    Got it Toasterhead. Thanks


  77. Londra kulesi muhaf?z? says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  78. Fred says:

    okie dokie, let me know if I can help. I’m in the Tulsa area.


  79. Mr.Duke says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  80. okie dokie says:

    It was VDT tracks, chiroptera toasterhead.
    Don’t equate it personally.


  81. chiroptera toasterhead says:

    Londra kulesi muhaf?z? says:

    What’s wrong with being a muslim? Why do some people take it as an insult?

    November 13th, 2009 at 5:05 pm
    __________

    You’ll need to ask Gary Bauer and G. Gordon Liddy that – they’re the ones using it as an insult. We certainly don’t consider it one.


  82. Oval12345678 aka James K. Sayre says:

    The Fringe with the Surrey on top. Oops.


  83. jaimymoore says:

    What’s wrong with being a muslim?

    Nothing. What’s wrong is being stupid, which is why we pity you and Liddy.


  84. dbadass says:

    Mr. Duke:
    Are you at all selective in your outrage at clerics? I remember all sorts of shit said by goofy white clergy….


  85. okie dokie says:

  86. dbadass says:

    Hi Londra kulesi muhaf?z?
    Where do I put the comma without changing the translation?


  87. chiroptera toasterhead says:

    Mr.Duke says:

    Yep, i made a men ho video.

    November 13th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
    ____________

    Caught with a male prostitute, eh? No worries – you’re joining a long tradition of conservatives. Just check into rehab and write a book in a couple of years, you’ll be fine.

    P.S. See what happens when someone selectively cherry-picks your words out of context?


  88. dbadass says:

    Shall we place a bet on how long that lasts?


  89. okie dokie says:

    The argument that Obama is Muslim is ridiculous to anyone that has ever been around them.
    Praying five times a day and fasting would be hard to keep in the closet.


  90. dbadass says:

    Oops looks like it is gone already. See the thing is that you can’t hope to outdo me. You simply lack the skill set. It is unfortunate I realize but as they say “it is what it is”….


  91. Bob says:

    Most people who claim to be Christian don’t treat others the way they want to be treated, don’t turn the other cheek, don’t treat their enemies like their brothers, and generally do not display compassion.

    It’s interesting that so many people that lack a display of faith of any sort want to question this president’s faith.


  92. Mr.Duke says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  93. Badger says:

    Mr. Duke says…

    It is usually a dead giveaway that you are a hardcore muslim when your women are treated like 3rd class humans.

    I’ve said this before, but let me repeat it to Expand Mr. Duke’s Information horizon.

    The three countries with the Largest Muslim Populations …

    Indonesia, India, and Pakistan ….have ALL Elected WOMEN as President. Megawati Sukarnoputra, Indira Ghandi, & Benazir Bhutto.

    I would remind Mr. Duke that America has YET to Accomplish this.


  94. Mr.Duke says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  95. Bob says:

    #89, Okie’s right
    Show Obama praying 5 times a day, facing east, then I might believe it. Why should I or anyone believe it otherwise?


  96. Mr.Duke says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  97. dbadass says:

    Join me in my vote up only campaign. It is easy and uplifting….


  98. Badger says:

    Every (sic) hear of the VATICAN?


  99. chiroptera toasterhead says:

    Mr.Duke says:

    Every heard of Afghanistan?

    November 13th, 2009 at 5:21 pm

    $434,000: The median amount that a full-time female worker loses in wages over a 40-year period as a direct result of the gender pay gap, also known as the “career wage gap.”

    78 cents: The amount that the average, full-time working woman makes for every $1 a man makes over a year.$4,572: The median annual pay gap between men and women ages 25 to 34.

    $713,000: The career wage gap for women with a Bachelor’s degree or higher.

    $452,000: The career wage gap for women with some college education.

    $392,000: The career wage gap for women with a high school education.

    $270,000: The career wage gap for women with less than a high school education.

    $11,191: The median annual pay gap between men and women ages 35 to 44.

    $13,519: The median annual pay gap between men and women ages 45 to 54.

    $14,116: The median annual pay gap between men and women ages 55 to 64.

    Source

    Every heard of the United States?


  100. dbadass says:

    Three seems like the magic number. Come now is that the best you can do?


  101. Mr.Duke says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  102. Ape-Man says:

    Republicans Don’t Grow


  103. okie dokie says:

    The treatment of women in the middle east is culturally historic,
    but is perpetuated in many Islamic sects, usually fallaciously.


  104. angels81 says:

    Mr Duke, those are not crap, they are facts, you know like, 2+2=4.


  105. Mr.Duke says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  106. Mr.Duke says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  107. dbadass says:

    absolute crap.


    All the easier to debunk then right?


  108. livelongandprosper says:

    Rev. Wright never made deranged comments

    You mean like the topic at hand:

    LIDDY: I’m convinced that despite his protestations to the contrary, that Barack Obama is a Muslim.

    Now that’s deranged!


  109. Mr.Duke says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  110. okie dokie says:

    Actually, Mr. Duke, until the equal rights ammendment was changed to include them, women in the U.S. received 68 cents on the dollar for the same work as men.


  111. dbadass says:

    Why do you even bother with those emphereal votes…


  112. chiroptera toasterhead says:

    Mr.Duke says:

    Total B.S. … you still buy that crap?
    November 13th, 2009 at 5:28 pm

    ___________

    What, the Integrated Public Use Microdata Series, which gets all its data from the Census Bureau?

    Yes. Yes I do. I have no reason to doubt the census as a standard, accurate source of demographic data.


  113. RUCerious says:

    One question.
    Does Gary Bauer think he’s related to Jack?


  114. angels81 says:

    The only thing that is full of crap, is Mr Duke.


  115. chiroptera toasterhead says:

    Mr.Duke says:

    This statistic does not take into account differences in experience, skill, occupation, or hours worked, other than meeting requirement for “full time” work. … therefore, the numbers are crap.

    November 13th, 2009 at 5:34 pm

    It does. Try reading the full text.


  116. Mr.Duke says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  117. Virtual Pebble says:

    @1. Ape-Man says: Liddy is a convicted felon November 13th, 2009 at 4:01 pm Vote Up (12)

    @2. MapleStreet says: Doesn’t G Gordon Liddy have some sort of felony conviction dealing with an abuse of his position? So why do we think he is all of a sudden an honest talking person? November 13th, 2009 at 4:02 pm Vote Up (6)

    @3. BrianFL says: I’m convinced, based on his past comments, that G. Gordon Liddy is a domestic terrorist who admitted to advising Nixon to murder an American reporter. November 13th, 2009 at 4:02 pm Vote Up (13)

    Good points, but there is one more thing to add to the G. Gordo resume; he’ll tell ya that Richard M. Nixon was a patriot and that Richard M. Nixon was not a crook. Gary Bauer would probably agree with that, not realizing that Gordo had said ‘Richard Nixon’ instead of ‘Ronald Reagan’.

    As far as the Christian-Muslim thing goes, Bauer is a Talibabtist, which is a synonym for ignoramus. If he were an adult Christian, instead of a Christianist, he would know that the church Jeremiah Wright was pastor of and where President Obama was a congregant is called Trinity United Church of Christ. Trinity is a United Church of Christ Congregation; both the church and the national organization would probably be very interested to hear that Mr. Bauer thinks they mix Christianity and Islam. Gordo can be excused from this; he’s not only ignorant, he’s probably irreligious and uneducated in both the belief systems of various religions, but in the formal organizations of the world’s religions. OTOH, Bauer has no fracking excuse for his stupidity.


  118. RUCerious says:

    Mr. Duke, you need to stop getting your information from Clarence Beeker.


  119. Mr.Duke says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  120. Fred says:

    Mr. Duke has himself behind the ❽ again.

    Living while denying reality will lead to health problems dude.


  121. Mr.Duke says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  122. okie dokie says:

    Women still only receive 78 cents on a dollar for their work in 2009?
    If you throw out the incomes of women healthcare CEO’s,
    it may be the same as the 70’s, at 68 cents!


  123. chiroptera toasterhead says:

    Mr.Duke says:

    I will take it nasty step further. In my business, a guy will get more money than a women because 99% of the women out in the USA are not physically able to do the job as well as a man.

    November 13th, 2009 at 5:42 pm
    ___________

    Yeah, you’re certainly right there. Women are generally terrible at being male escorts. Even if they put on a fake mustache and duct-tape their lady lumps, it just doesn’t work. Anyone with the slightest bit of intuition can see through the disguise.

    That’s why studies of the gender salary gap, like the one I linked, do not take into account professions with an overwhelming predominance of one gender, and focus on jobs where women and men are equally represented.


  124. Mr.Duke says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  125. RUCerious says:

    Mortimer, I wouldn’t be bragging about having five miles of runs…Can you even flush it?


  126. RUCerious says:

    The job I work in, data modeling has more talented women than men. Just sayin, Mortimer.


  127. Fred says:

    Mr.Duke says:

    WMD’s we know he has them and we know where they are.

    perspective duke, perspective.

    stop going ⟳


  128. Ape-Man says:

    129 Hitler Was A Leftist says:

    This one must work for POX News


  129. angels81 says:

    Hitler was a leftist….Bhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!! This one here is as dumb as a sack of hammers. I see troll central has sent us another bright blub.


  130. Ape-Man says:

    125 Hitler Was A Leftist says:

    Ahh patriotism – the refuge of scoundrels and fascists. how does it feel?


  131. chiroptera toasterhead says:

    angels81 says:

    Hitler was a leftist….Bhahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!! This one here is as dumb as a sack of hammers. I see troll central has sent us another bright blub.
    November 13th, 2009 at 5:55 pm

    ___________

    Seriously. The RNC is sending us the fourth or fifth string team. I’m insulted, frankly.


  132. Ape-Man says:

    Ya. POX trolls suck


  133. basher72 says:

    G. Gordon Liddy wrote in his book a while back that he once killed and ate a rat in an alley as a means of overcoming fear…

    which proves the notion that you are what you eat.


  134. Skip57 says:

    In Canada, if some crazy old ex-con like Liddy actually got a radio show, he’d be laughed off the air.


  135. Fred says:

    tards, hitler sounds like rhf!


  136. conservative guy says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  137. RandomChaos says:

    Wow, repug trolls love them some ex-convict.
    Things that make you go hmmmmm?


  138. Ape-Man says:

    138 conservative guy says:

    Liddy has Republican ‘cred’. Convicted felons seem to get Republican Cred – hmmm…


  139. Ape-Man says:

    139 RandomChaos says:

    Ya, hmmm…

    yes indeed


  140. delafield says:

    Better to have 100 million Muslims living in America than trash like G. Gordon Liddy.


  141. batbird says:

    I’m convinced that G. Gordon Liddy is a TURD.


  142. Padre Mickey says:

    I don’t understand why Bauer is worried about someone considering himself a Christian and a Muslim; Bauer appears to be a Christian and an a***ole.


  143. pops7154 says:

    O how stupid some people are must be teabaggers to belive a ex con libby people have really got stupid in america it,s scary.


  144. The Moderate Squad says:

    Liddy is just another GNOP criminal, like Oliver North, Tom DeLay, Casper Weinberger, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Albert Gonzalez, Karl Rove, Scooter Libby – well I don’t have time to list them all, but how the party of “personal responsibility” ever got that moniker is beyond me. Maybe it’s like gangsta rappers choosing their own names …


  145. Emerald Laughter says:

    G. Gordon Liddy’s claim to fame was getting caught for the Watergate break-in. There’s someone, who we should all listen too! Ever read his autobiography, Will? Liddy is perhaps the world’s biggest egomaniac. This guy should have been hung for treason, but instead some idiot gave him a talk show! Liddy is a criminal, psychopath, and completely irrelavent. When Liddy ate a rat, (as he describes in his autobiography), it was an act of canabalism.


  146. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Ape-Man says:
    138 conservative guy says:

    Liddy has Republican ‘cred’. Convicted felons seem to get Republican Cred – hmmm…

    Republicans respect felony convictions even more than they respect dodging the draft in the 60s.

    And they respect dodging the draft a lot.


  147. dietrich says:

    I see Friday night is here.
    Troll central sent the Chowderhead Trio.
    Actually, I think our trolls are technically more “dumbass”
    then “idiots.”
    tony and lido


  148. delafield says:

    Emerald Laughter says, “G. Gordon Liddy’s claim to fame was getting caught for the Watergate break-in. There’s someone, who we should all listen too!”

    As long as we’re doing resume checks and qualifications of right wing political analysts… Rush Limbaugh (disk jockey), Sean Hannity (bartender), and Bill O’Reilly (game show host who masterbates with loofah sponge while harassing female employees on the telephone).


  149. Tim43 says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  150. Keith says:

    Actually, the way it went was:
    1) Nixon said something like “we have to get rid of this Jack Anderson (of the Washington Post who criticized Nixon)”.
    2) Liddy took that to mean Nixon wanted Anderson assassinated and set about the planning.
    3) A Nixon aide found this out and told Liddy “no, don’t do it, that’s not what he meant”.
    This is what Liddy says in his autobiography.

    And they call Obama a fascist!?!


  151. Keith says:

    Tim43,

    Don’t you think it strange that you do not give a source for your revealing evidence that is in quotes?

    Urbanlegends.about says it is from an email that people are forwarding to around to each other.

    Urban legends says:

    CNN has tracked down the school in question, the Basuki School in Jakarta, which a deputy headmaster described as a “public school” with no particular religious agenda. “In our daily lives, we try to respect religion, but we don’t give preferential treatment,” he told CNN. A classmate of Obama’s described the school as “general,” with students of many religious backgrounds attending. Obama entered the school at the age of 8 and attended for two years.

    So, Tim, you think if a rumour is in an e-mail and it is sent to a lot of people—-it becomes the truth? Why are you ashamed of the source?


  152. Keith says:

    His mother, who was in charge of his education in Indonesia, was a secular humanist. It would be nonsense for her to send him to a Wahabbi school.

    Lolo Soetoro was a non-practising Moslem.

    Obama’s original father was agnostic.


  153. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Keith, they’ve had nothin’ since they geared up their campaign, and now they’re just recycling the same nothin’ they couldn’t sell in the first place.

    It’s kind of pathetic.


  154. chiroptera toasterhead says:

    Tim43 says:

    Because ThinkProgress NEVER gives both sides of the story.

    November 13th, 2009 at 10:42 pm

    There is no “other side” of the story. President Obama is not Muslim. That’s all there is to it.


  155. EugeneDebs says:

    Kenneth you are a LIAR and an ignorant pile of dogshit. Just STFU and let the adults talk you are too stupid to be taken seriously. I do love to laugh at morons as stupid as you but seriously you are just becoming sad and you have always been pathetic


  156. EugeneDebs says:

    I concur. Kenneth is obviously and idiot and NO kenny not because you have another opinion but because you are so OBVIOUSLY stupid that calling you an idiot is being kind


  157. EugeneDebs says:

    Mr Duke

    We already know how stupid you are. You are also a bigot. Why are you so proud to be so stupid is what I want to know. Stop humiliting yourself and STFU


  158. EugeneDebs says:

    HitlerwasaRIGHTWINGNUT

    This troll is a twisted, ignorant pile of dogshit and stupider than the human mind can possibly comprehend


  159. EugeneDebs says:

    ConservaTROLL

    Why havent you killed yourself yet PUNK?


  160. EugeneDebs says:

    Timmeh

    My GOD you are stupid. His father WAS a Muslim to the extent he wasnt agnostic. SO WHAT? There is NO reason to think for once second Obama is a Muslim. The thing is you couldnt care LESS what is true because besides being so cripplingly stupid you are a liar and a punk. A pile of dogshit who only cares about demeaning anyone you think might be a lefty. You are an excreble piece of filth. Just STFU we already know how stupid you are so you have nothing worthwhile to contribute


  161. EugeneDebs says:

    Timmeh is a liar a moron and a punk. He doesnt care if the E-mail is true. He cares only about insulting lefties. He is a worthless pile of dogshit


  162. chiroptera toasterhead says:

    Tim43 says:

    Dunham married another Muslim, Lolo Soetoro who educated his stepson as a good Muslim by enrolling him in one of Jakarta’s Wahabbi schools. Wahabbism is the radical teaching that created the Muslim terrorists who are now waging Jihad on the industrialized world.
    ____________

    Also, the Salafi movements in Indonesia today really didn’t take hold until the 1990s or so. Particularly in Java, on which Islam which has tended to be a mix of Sufism and local Javanese customs, and even more particularly in the very cosmopolitan Jakarta. So there weren’t “Wahhabi schools” in Indonesia when Obama was eight.

    Good try, tho!


  163. EugeneDebs says:

    toasterhead

    No it wasnt a good try. It was lame and stupid.


  164. SlappyBastinado says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  165. ProgressiveKev says:

    Their talk is very dangerous, what can be done to stop them?


  166. chiroptera toasterhead says:

    SlappyBastinado says:

    in the Afghan war he wants to neither achieve VICTORY over Muslims or be defeated by them during his time in office.

    November 14th, 2009 at 12:50 am
    ___________

    Do explain what “victory over Muslims” means in the Afghan war. Don’t Muslims win if they have a stable, functioning state in Afghanistan?


  167. EugeneDebs says:

    SlappyBeggerino

    Why waste your time. No matter how much you beg there is no pity for you here. Your constant begging always gets sent to the sewer where it belongs. We all KNOW how stupid and pathetic you are but we dont CARE anymore. No pity. Beg away NO PITY


  168. SlappyBastinado says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  169. chiroptera toasterhead says:

    SlappyBastinado says:

    cth….Please help yourself……………..
    November 14th, 2009 at 1:13 am

    A simple “I dunno” would’ve sufficed.


  170. SlappyBastinado says:

    Would a “Victory” in any Muslim country change the thoughts and minds of others around the world? A “defeat” would give the same Jihads reason to believe it could be done and surely they would continue to fight on as they have for the last 5000 years…………..no victory’s, no defeats just lulls in fighting and agreements to satisfy for short periods of time…..bring them home now or blow the place up beyond recognition then come home.


  171. SlappyBastinado says:

    Afghanistan, Obama, Muslims, Americans and the great delemma………….how does he cut up the cookie so all are happy with what they get???????


  172. Leftside Annie says:

    So, Slappymoron – how do we defeat the Christianist terrorists who are infiltrating our nation and shooting doctors in church??

    Help us! We need a “Victory” against Christian terrorism!!!


  173. Leftside Annie says:

    Psssst, stupid – it’s DILEMMA.

    Geesh.


  174. Virtual Pebble says:

    @144. Padre Mickey says: I don’t understand why Bauer is worried about someone considering himself a Christian and a Muslim; Bauer appears to be a Christian and an a***ole. November 13th, 2009 at 6:49 pm

    Bauer is a Talibabtist, probably in a South Ron Talibabtist Convention congregation. Generally, Talibabtists are Christianists, not Christians. You’re correct regarding his congruence to an anal orifice.


  175. SlappyBastinado says:

    Annie you are so smart that little situation shouldn’t pose much of a problem…..HANDLE IT! Psssst…take your own gun to church. Sheeesh!


  176. sleeve says:

    Liddy was convicted of conspiracy, burglary and illegal wiretapping. Liddy was sentenced to a 20-year prison term and was ordered to pay $40,000 in fines. He began serving the sentence on January 30, 1973. On April 12, 1977, President Jimmy Carter commuted Liddy’s sentence to eight years, “in the interest of equity and fairness based on a comparison of Mr. Liddy’s sentence with those of all others convicted in Watergate related prosecutions”, leaving the fine in effect. Carter’s commutation made Liddy eligible for parole as of July 9, 1977. Liddy was released on September 7, 1977 having served a total of four-and-a-half years of actual incarceration.


  177. sleeve says:

    Following an incident at a 2000 town hall event in which Republican primary candidate Alan Keyes crowd-surfed in the mosh pit of a group playing the music of rock band Rage Against the Machine, Bauer made a statement that “a band called The Machine Rages On – er – Rage Against the Machine, that band is anti-family, and it’s pro-terrorist”, which was quoted in the band’s Sleep Now in the Fire video.

    While campaigning in Manchester, New Hampshire (at an event sponsored by Bisquick) during the 2000 Republican Primaries, Bauer fell off the stage while trying to catch pancakes he had flipped up into the air. Bauer wasn’t injured, and spoke of the event as a possible positive turning point in his campaign.


  178. EugeneDebs says:

    SlappyBeggerino

    Now I know why you usuall just beg us for pity with your stupid and pathetic attempts at humor. It is even MORE obvious how stupid you are when you TRY to make sense. You are stupid. Many Muslim countries have NOT had conflict for I assume 500 years I mean Islam isnt EVEN 2000 years old much less 500. Then again you are SO stupid its hard to tell what is a typo and what is bone ignorance from you. The largest Islamic country in the WORLD is Indonesia and they HAVENT had major conflicts until the 60;s. We know you are too stupid to know what you are talking about but at least TRY to make a minimal amount of sense. You are a moron and a bigot. Your ignorance of Islam is typical of your ignorance of everything else. You really are nothing but an ignorant punkass troll without the slightest idea what you are talking about. Really. Stop humiliating yourself and just STFU


  179. kpaul says:

    I don’t know why Liddy should be so upset at the idea of somebody lying about their Christianity, after all, that’s what he does everyday. Unless he’s worried about someone using his ideas without permission.


  180. The Shadow says:

    First of all let me state for the record, that I think G. Gordon Liddy is an a s s h o l e. Second, he’s criminal who republicans love to love. Third, this moron Gary Bauers, shouldn’t even have the nerve to fix his ugly lips to say anything negative about anyone. Have you looked in the mirror lately Gary. I mean there is ugly and then there is Gary Bauers ugly. If I looked like Gary, I would only come out at night. But then people would think I was a vampire, I’m sure some of them think Gary is.


  181. Rab says:

    Liddy is a criminal. Repugs are criminal. Trolls are criminal. Liddy is a liar. Repugs are liars. Trolls are liars. End of story.


  182. cd says:

    Why does what Liddy thinks matter to conservatives?


  183. SlappyBastinado says:

    Debbi…..my inane ramblings make as much or more sense than anything you have to say. Your easy to catch. I amuse myself by delving into the absurd just to see who will follow. When I say Obama does not want either victory or defeat in Afghanistan but some kind of an agreement that both sides lost…..well……watch. Bow down Obama, lower yourself to the leaders of the world son. Read closely ding-a-ling most typos have hidden messages or multiple massages behind the curtain. Indonesia????? The history, location, topography and most everything else could not be more different than Afghanistan?????? What’s up with that comp? Your life with out me would not be one worth living, mall cop!


  184. EugeneDebs says:

    SlappyBeggerino You are STUPID. You dont catch anything but laughs at your expense. You THINK you are clever and delving the absurd in fact you are stupid delving the pathetic. I amuse myself slapping the stupid out of you. Nothing more. You KNOW you are stupid. When you venture outside your usual pathetic attempt at humor you are just stupid. Just walking along the programmed talking points you were TOLD to think by the screechmonkeys that do your thinking for you. They are monumentally stupid and inane but then so are you. Bow down to Obama? That is the rediculous notion Rush told you to think. I was NEVER a huge fan of Obama except as an alternative to Bush the catastrophe that walks like a man. You could have read plenty of my criticisms of him but you are oblivious to anything that falls outside the parameters set by your delusions and what you have been told to think. You are stupid and you are pathetic and if you are not careful that is all you will ever be. See once again when not failing miserably to be funny you didnt treat a discussion with respect you took a cheapshot that was rooted in your brainwashing. I WOULD pity you but I know how addicted you ARE to pity and that well has run dry



  185. EugeneDebs says:

    SlappyBeggerino

    Oh my GOD. I assumed it was a typo. I keep forgetting how stupid and obsessively brainwashed you are. Of course it was another talking point you have been brainwashed with and pretend is akin to reality. You really are one of the stupidest most ignorant brainwashed morons on the planet. Just STFU. You are a punk, a troll and far too stupid and juvenile to be part of an adult conversation


  186. EugeneDebs says:

    Its called protocol. In HIS country he gets the respect SHOWN to a leader. If Hirohito were in the Oval office when Obama stood then Hirohito would also stand. It is one of those little diplomatic shows of respect that TRUE leaders are supposed to do. My GOD you are stupid


  187. cd says:

    Is it my imgination or is it funny that Liddy is questioning someone’s religious convictions while he seems to lack any?


  188. cletusk says:

    The good thing about the United States of America is that you can practice any religion you want!


  189. republicanSScareme says:

    I’m convinced G. Gordon Liddy is a ten-dollar thug. So is everyone else.

    Who hires hate-spewing clowns like Liddy? Zionists.


  190. mari2RR says:

    Now let me see, just what is this guy’s background? It includes some shady criminal activities, you know like being the guy from the CREEP Committee that managed the break in of the DNC headquarters for Nixon’s reelection. So we need to worry about his opinion on law and order just why? As a moderate Republican, I can tell you that the part of our party represented by this guy does us no favors. Frankly, they are just a bunch of criminal thugs who just need to keep their mouths shut!!!!!


  191. Parlezvous says:

    Gordon Liddy is fortunate to reside in a country that allows any comments, no matter how stupid. Gordon Liddy is also fortunate that he lives in a country that doesn’t execute its political perpetrators. Given his good fortune, what we hear most of the time is how screwed up America is. It’s the Republican mantra. As for the DNC being “criminal thugs”; that’s the pot calling the kettle black.

    The Neanderthal Liddy needs to go back into his cave and stay there.



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