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Casey Hints He Will Oppose The Stupak Amendment

Casey1The Pittsburgh Post Gazette is reporting that Sen. Bob Casey (D-PA), a pro-life leader in the Senate, will likely oppose the Stupak abortion amendment. Casey’s office issued a press statement clarifying that the Senator supports preserving the status quo on abortion coverage:

Senator Casey has been a vocal supporter of health care reform and voted for the HELP Committee bill in July. He supports the public option to increase competition and reduce costs. And he is offering amendments to improve health care for children. Senator Casey thinks that health care reform should not be used to change longstanding policies regarding federal financing of abortion which has been in place since 1976.

He continues to work with his colleagues in the Senate and with the White House to ensure that the Senate health care reform bill protects existing federal and state conscience protections, existing state abortion laws and contains strong language to prohibit federal funds from being used to fund abortions. He voted for amendments in the HELP Committee that would maintain neutrality on abortion. Until Senate bill language is released it is premature to discuss next steps.

The existing abortion language in the Senate bill maintains the status quo by ensuring that federal dollars can only be used to pay for abortions when the pregnancy threatens life of mother or results from rape or incest. Only private premiums could be used to pay for so-called ‘elective’ abortions.

Democrats believe that pro-life advocates would not be able to muster the requisite 60 votes to pass a more restrictive amendment that would make it difficult for many private plans to provide abortion coverage. “If someone wants to offer this very radical amendment, which would really tear apart [a decades-long] compromise, then I think at that point they would need to have 60 votes to do it,” Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-CA) said during a recent interview with the Huffington Post. “And I believe in our Senate we can hold it.” On Monday, President Obama also indicated that he wanted to preserve the status quo on abortion coverage.

Casey’s statement, while promising, does not guarantee that the Senator won’t vote for a bill that includes stricter abortion restrictions. During the Health, Labor, Education and Pensions Committee’s (HELP)’s mark-up, Casey provided the only Democratic vote to at least four anti-choice amendments, all of which ultimately failed. One such amendment — offered by Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-UT) — closely resembled the Stupak provision.

If the Senate bill retains its current abortion compromise, it’s likely that the conference report will include similar language. Already, 41 House Democrats have sent a letter to Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA), vowing to vote against the final conference report if it contains the Stupak amendment.

Cross-posted on The Wonk Room.

Update TPM reports that the liberal group CREDO Action will soon ask over 1,000,000 members to sign a petition condemning the Stupak amendment, “and with each signature, CREDO will send a coat hanger to the 20 supposedly pro-choice members of Congress who voted for it.”


117 Responses to “Casey Hints He Will Oppose The Stupak Amendment”

  1. P.D. says:

    You better Bob. I live in PA and voted for you. Although you are a rabid ‘Pro-Lifer’ you know the women in PA. will NEVER forgive you. The last week my friends have been fuming about this. We elected to you replace the imbicile ‘Man on Dog’ Santorum. DO NOT DISAPPOINT US.


  2. Doom Siren says:

    Casey is showing some backbone. Lets hope this is a trend with the Democratic Party in both Houses of Congress.


  3. Skyler says:

    The Senate approached their bill with the understanding that it would be abortion-neutral. I heard something tonight where the Stupak Amendment would be revised. Revised? No. Scrap it. Existing law is sufficient that no federal dollars will be spent on elective abortions. If one opts into a public plan (financed by the public) that provides elective abortion, paid by that person’s premiums, it honors the federal law and does not restrict reproductive choice. Hyde Amendment intact.

    You can bet that my Senators, Menendez and Lautenberg, will get a call from me to reject the addition of the Stupak Amendment.

    P.S. to PD: Nice to know that you’re a neighbor.


  4. Pennsylvanianne says:

    Wow. I am surprised but pleased to see Sen. Casey not insist that women in tough circumstances follow his religious beliefs instead of their own consciences. So glad you replaced Santorum, Sen. Casey!


  5. Skyler says:

    It appears that our Vote Down Troll doesn’t like an informed/engaged electorate.


  6. sscncturn64 says:

    Enough with the tit for tat.Just pass the fcking bill.
    As these elected officials are screwing around people are dying. Would these same idiots screw around with healthcare if one of their loved ones were depending on healthcare to have a chance at living? Now that I think about it, they probably would. Repugs are for big business and big dollars.
    Repugs will always say, screw you ive got mine.


  7. P.D. says:

    Skyler@5, That’s the trolls way, isn’t it? I’m glan a fellow Pennslvanian is on. At least we got rid of Santorum. The man was a complete embarassment.


  8. P.D. says:

    All right troll, that is the second time you voted us down, at least make an appearance and debate. Or is it you can’t justify the Stupak amendment? Either way, show yourself.



  9. sscncturn64 says:

    Hi PD, Are you from PA? I live in berks county, Im a transplant from Suffolk county L.I. Im proud to say that I did my part to get santorum fired.


  10. P.D. says:

    ssc@10, Holy Crap. We have been on for awhile and you are only a stone throw away. I’m a Bucks gal. LOL! Remember how the pundits SWORE it would be a tough race between Casey and Santorum? Man, Casey blew him out the water. One of the best moments in 2006.


  11. Badmoodman says:

    Casey’s office issued a press statement clarifying that the Senator supports preserving the status quo on abortion coverage

    – - God damn activist Senators.


  12. P.D. says:

    LOL! Speaking of Santorum, he is pondering a run for Pres. in 2012. Maybe good ole Ricky should pick Barracuda Sarah as his running mate. That would be a dream.


  13. KayInMaine says:

    In addition to sending coat hangers, Americans should also send their outstanding medical bills to these pro-choicers for them to pay, so these Americans don’t lose their house thanks to the current health care system raping their pocketbooks.


  14. sscncturn64 says:

    I do remember, It was down right refreshing knowing that santorum was out. I have a question for you PD,its O/T but im curious.
    Are you an eagles fan?


  15. Cats r Flyfishn says:

    This is the man that I voted for and I am proud that Bob Casey Jr. is a Senator from Pennsylvania. He has the right stuff. I had the pleasure of meeting him when he was running for office. He speaks softly and carries a big stick. Even though Senator Casey is “pro-life”, he believes that the need for abortions should be eliminated and not the right to an abortion.

    sscncturn – not sure if PD is an Eagles fan, but I am.


  16. P.D. says:

    I was. I’m not really interested in Pro Sports. But after the Eagles allowed Vicks in, I will never watch them again. I know, I know… He paid his debt to society. But you know what. I don’t care. If I or some average shmoo did what he did, we would be run out of town. That’s the way I feel. You can disagree with me if you want.


  17. Cats r Flyfishn says:

    sscncturn – I live in Berks County, too.


  18. P.D. says:

    @16, I find that ironic coming from a idiot who has the name Hitler on his tag.


  19. P.D. says:

    My Lord, How many people are from PA. on tonight?


  20. Larry Craig says:

    Sarah’s pile of Alaskan manure hits the fan here.


  21. Badmoodman says:

    Hitler Was A Leftist says:
    Abortion is murder, and anyone who supports it supports murder.

    – - But I bet you embrace the death penalty.


  22. Cats r Flyfishn says:

    PD – The Eagles gave a very large contribution to the Humane Society of Berks County. It was their way of making some retribution. If Vick is truly sorry for what he did and if he is truly giving back to the care of animals, then I can forgive him.


  23. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    Abortion is murder, and anyone who supports it supports murder.

    No it isn’t.


  24. Cats r Flyfishn says:

    PD – wouldn’t it be funny if we all knew each by our real names?


  25. sscncturn64 says:

    I dont disagree with you at all PD. You are absolutly right, if you or I did what vick did we would still be upstate in prison. I do enjoy watching football. Im a long time suffering jets fan.


  26. Hitler Was A Leftist says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  27. Cats r Flyfishn says:

    Later – have to go watch the Temple Football game.


  28. P.D. says:

    Cats@25, That’s fine with me. I hold no grudge against any Eagle fans. Hey, Philly is a proud city. I was born there.


  29. Cats r Flyfishn says:

    Hitler – be afraid… be very afraid.


  30. sscncturn64 says:

    Hi Cats, I live about ten miles outside of reading(shthole).
    How about you?


  31. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    P.D.,

    I’m a lifelong New Yorker and a Mets fan, but I like you anyway. :)


  32. P.D. says:

    Later Cats. As for the troll.. Does anyone know WTF he is talking about?


  33. Cats r Flyfishn says:

    ssc – I live in Pike Township.


  34. Skyler says:

    O/T but relative to a few posters: P.D is from Bucks Cty, sscncturn64 is from Berks Cty, and I live across the Delaware in P-Burg, Warren Cty, NJ. I’d say we’re all within 40 minutes of each other. You guys drink beer? Ever hear of Weyerbacher?


  35. katy says:

    UPDATE TPM reports that the liberal group CREDO Action will soon ask over 1,000,000 members to sign a petition condemning the Stupak amendment…

    i’ll be looking for it… recently switched to credo from verizon…

    i was signing their petitions before that anyway…


  36. Cats r Flyfishn says:

    Skyler – yes to both questions. I know, I was going to watch the game. I’m listening to it instead.


  37. Cats r Flyfishn says:

    Katy – I switched to CREDO too. I’ll be looking for the petition.


  38. Cats r Flyfishn says:

    Oh how very cute… Hitler keeps voting us down. Spoiled little child that needs attention.


  39. P.D. says:

    Let’s be careful here. Already the troll was talking about serial killers. The fact is, Im not afraid of my fellow Pensylvannians. But Hitler is a little whacko. HE might be the serial killer.


  40. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    Hitler Was A Leftist says:

    Skyler says: You guys drink beer?

    Liberals only drink infant tears

    No we don’t.


  41. P.D. says:

    @42, OMG! DRINK INFANT TEARS? You need some serious therapy.


  42. Skyler says:

    Cats, PD and ssc: Stop in at the brewery (free beer). I work there every Saturday. Would love to meet some fellow TPers.


  43. Liz Morrison says:

    45, Wayne, it’s your friend the “GOP” kid. Swinging hard but missing.


  44. Jane E. Schneider says:

    P.D. says:

    But after the Eagles allowed Vicks in, I will never watch them again. I know, I know… He paid his debt to society. But you know what. I don’t care. If I or some average shmoo did what he did, we would be run out of town. That’s the way I feel. You can disagree with me if you want.
    November 13th, 2009 at 8:40 pm

    I agree, P.D.. To me, what Vick did was unforgivable.
    —————–

    sscncturn64 says:
    “Im a long time suffering jets fan.”

    Sigh…Wayne and I have been suffering with you.


  45. P.D. says:

    @49, Now you are pulling facts out of your ass. You know, I have read funny trolls, dumb trolls even some fairly bright trolls. But you are just plain nuts. And you are not worth anymore of my time. So, piss off.


  46. sscncturn64 says:

    Skyler@38, I like to drink Absolut on the rocks. It would be alot of fun drinking a few with fellow TP`rs while talking about how ridiculous the repugs and wingnuts are.


  47. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    Liz Morrison,

    I know. I’m just having some fun. I’m politing refuting his lies. I do not expect to change his mind, as that would require that he have a mind to begin with.

    “It’s a terrible thing to lose one’s mind, or not to have a mind. How true that is.” – Former Vice President Dan Quayle


  48. Marie says:

    48, I agree with Liz, it’s a bit over the top and kinda flat. Old parody troll stuff. Set phasers to ignore.


  49. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    Fact: most serial killers are leftists

    No they aren’t.


  50. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    Sounds like a date.

    Not with you it isn’t.


  51. P.D. says:

    ssc@53, LOL! If we all get together, we would have HOURS of fodder to talk about. The Repugs make it very easy don’t they.


  52. livelongandprosper says:

    Sounds like a date.

    How does that make you feel?


  53. P.D. says:

    Wayne@58, He is really starting to creep me out. He gives me the heebee-jeebees.


  54. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    P.D.,

    Don’t worry. He can’t do anything to you. All he can do is empty his mind of the ridiculous lies he’s come to believe about liberals. Which is fine, as he doesn’t seem to be using it for any other useful purpose.


  55. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    I don’t care about your little date, just please, whatever goes on afterwards does not need to be posted on the blog. Thank you.

    I’m sure it won’t be.


  56. Skyler says:

    Don’t feed the troll. He’ll crawl under his rock soon enough.


  57. P.D. says:

    Skyler@65, I know, but of all the trolls, he is one of the strangest.


  58. sscncturn64 says:

    Wayne@35, I am a life long Mets fan. Keith hernandez was one of the reasons the mets started winning in the early eighty`s.
    I will never forget the NLCS in 86 when the mets played the houston astros. Remember scott scuffing the ball?
    Then of course we went on to beat the Bosox in the world series.(bill Buckner,thankyou).


  59. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    I’m just waiting ro him to say something accurate, besides the fact that the people on his list of mass-murdering rulers were evil. Whether or not they were “leftists” is irrelevant, as there have been many, many conservative mass-murdering rulers, too. Proves nothing.


  60. Skyler says:

    Flag him. Stalking.


  61. Jane E. Schneider says:

    Back on topic: I agree with Skyler at #3. This Stupak crap is just another attempt to continue to diminish women’s access to legal abortion. And all of those idiots out there shouting that they want the government to stay out of their healthcare sure are adamant about interfering with women’s healthcare!


  62. livelongandprosper says:

    I guess he feels lonely. Friday night, no date.


  63. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    sscncturn64 says:

    I was stationed at Ramstein AB in West Germany at the time. The games were broadcast live on Armed Forces Network, and I would go to sleep right after I got off duty so I could watch the games at two a.m. Another airman from Brooklyn did the same thing, so we watched the playoffs and WS together. Luckily, for me, I was the Asst NCOIC of my shop, so when the extra-inning games came up, I just called in and said I would be late. Mike couldn’t do that, as he was just an A1C. I felt bad for him.


  64. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    I guess he feels lonely. Friday night, no date.

    And his blow-up doll has a leak.


  65. P.D. says:

    Jane@70, What really pisses me off is that these so-called Democrats actually expected us to back down and accept the unacceptible. After all women have fought for? After all we have suffered and we are suppose to follow the Democrats like meek sheep? That might work for the Repug ‘Ditto heads’. But women are smarter than that.


  66. Jane E. Schneider says:

    Well, P.D., since they’re mostly men, yeah, of course they expected us to back down. (My apologies to the enlighted men out there.)


  67. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    Truth hurts, eh, troll? Doesn’t matter. You don’t impress me.


  68. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    Apology accepted, honey.


  69. P.D. says:

    Jane@75, True. My apologies to the enlightened dudes out there including our TP brethren. But still, they thought they could squeak this through. And just be satified we have health care. That was low, they underestimated us again.


  70. chiroptera toasterhead says:

    Hitler Was A Leftist says:

    Mao,stalin,hitler,jones,saddam, pol pot, kim jong il

    All leftists, all evil.
    November 13th, 2009 at 9:03 pm

    _____________

    So?


  71. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    toasterhead,

    I wonder why trolls think it means anything to say that certain evil people in history were “leftists”? We’ve supported some pretty evil conservative people, like Augusto Pinochet, and others. The thing those murderous leaders had in common was a strong authoritarian streak. Authoritarianism can be found in both lefties and righties, so to point out that they were “leftists” is pointless.


  72. P.D. says:

    Wayne@80, I think it has to do with rewriting history. Already the Repugs and MSM has dropped EVERYTHING in Obama’s lap. The bail-outs, the deficits, Gitmo, Iraq and Afghanistan. So now everthing Obama does, is ALL obama’s fault. Look at Reagan. He is a God to the Repugs. But he raised taxes, broke the unions and help dismantle the safeguards to keep the Middle Class safe.


  73. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    P.D.,

    Seriously, we need to start putting back in place the safeguards the Republicans destroyed over the last thirty years. The “Greed is Good” decade of the eighties will prove to be a shameful period in our nation’s history. I believe that future historians will look back on that decade as one in which we “lost our way”. The Republican Party has been doing everything it can to destroy what makes America great in favor of enriching the few who control things.


  74. Cats r Flyfishn says:

    Wayne @82
    I agree.

    o/t – Temple is winning. It’s half time.


  75. P.D. says:

    Wayne@82, That’s why I find it so infuriating how the Repugs blame Liberals. Why? Reagan had eight years. Bush Senior had four. Then came Clinton. Who after deficits and a disasterous economy turned things around, only to be labeled a cad and the infamous ‘Monica Gate’. Then of course the year 2000. Which Gore won, but it was stolen away. Then after the BUSH years, we are in the deepest pit I have ever seen in my 42 years on this planet. Liberals are to blame? I don’t think so.


  76. Jane E. Schneider says:

    Cats, who’s Temple playing? (Not that I follow college football at all, but our friend went to TCU, so he’s all gung-ho about their season so far.)


  77. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    Liberals are to blame? I don’t think so.

    And you would be right not to think so. Too many people give Reagan too much credit and not enough blame. And too many of them don’t seem to realize one important fact. Reagan is dead. And if America is going to be saved, his policies need to die with him.


  78. Ape-Man says:

    Most Stupak Amendment Ever


  79. mary lacewing says:

    Good people at TP – what’s going on in this thread?

    When I first got here P.D. had been voted down on multiple posts.

    Is there something going on that I’m not getting? Or are there is a troll out there with 10 different accounts?!


  80. P.D. says:

    Wayne@86, Spot on. The Repugs LOVE to invoke Reagan. He is their true ‘Conservative’ God. I mean no offense. My father loved the the ‘Gipper’. But let’s face it. Reagan’s policy was, “All government is bad.” and “Don’t look to Government to solve your problems.” When in fact, Reagan and the Repugs DESTROYED the Goverment. They dismantled the only protection we in the Middle Class have. Truly a shameful moment.


  81. P.D. says:

    mary@88, I have no idea. Somebody hijacked my tag a couple of days ago. I guess I could be flattered they would find me so threatening.


  82. Wayne A. Schneider says:

    mary lacewig says

    Is there something going on that I’m not getting? Or are there is a troll out there with 10 different accounts?!

    Something like that. We’re trying to counter them when we can.

    P.D. Says

    Reagan’s policy was, “All government is bad.” and “Don’t look to Government to solve your problems.” When in fact, Reagan and the Repugs DESTROYED the Goverment.

    That was their plan. They were tryiong to prove that government doesn’t work by dismantling it, letting the country go down the toilet, then say, “See? Government couldn’t stop this from happening. What good is it?”

    They’ll flame me for saying this, but I do believe that Reagan Republicans over the last thirty years have done more to destroy this country than any terrorist they ever supported could ever do.


  83. KayInMaine says:

    Hitler was a right wing fascist. The End.


  84. Londra kulesi muhaf?z? says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  85. Londra kulesi muhaf?z? says:

    mary lacewing says:
    Good people at TP – what’s going on in this thread?

    When I first got here P.D. had been voted down on multiple posts.

    Is there something going on that I’m not getting? Or are there is a troll out there with 10 different accounts?

    Yes.


  86. mary lacewing says:

    May I be so bold as to say that I detest anti-abortion politicians being called ‘pro-life’?

    They should be called pro-birth at best. More like anti-choice.


  87. OutstandingInMyField says:

    Ms. Lacewing, in my opinion the anti-choice folk may call themselves pro-life just as soon as they began to care about the child after it emerges from the womb.


  88. flight says:

    Wayne@ 86,
    I would like to approach the “bad evil liberal” from a different angle. The Republicans have used fear since WWII as part of their credo; Communism, socialism, Carter, Clinton, war on terror, and the newest one, the” Obama Threat”. Keeping the public apprehensive or down right scared provides them with political maneuvering room. Their hope is that by continuous bombardment, the public will wear down. Then they can come in and play super hero.
    To some extent it is working. The country is in uncertain times and the public expects far more from Obama than they ever did from GW Bush. I think this point may be the Republicans undoing. The public wants and expects Obama to succeed. If he doesn’t, Obama’s prospects may dim, but the Republicans may not be forgiven for a long time.
    The good cop bad cop game the Republicans are playing may very well blow up in their face.


  89. P.D. says:

    Good Night my TP brethren. It’s been an interesting week. I will see you on the morn….


  90. mary lacewing says:

    OutstandingInMyField says:

    Ms. Lacewing, in my opinion the anti-choice folk may call themselves pro-life just as soon as they began to care about the child after it emerges from the womb.

    I hear that! The anti-choicers are all about the fetus (pro-fetus?) but as soon as it pops out it’s on its own! That baby better get on its feet fast and get a job and earn its keep!

    Maybe THAT’s why the righties are fighting the bill that would ban the importation of goods made with child labor. That child’s gotta earn enough for it’s health care!


  91. OutstandingInMyField says:

    mary lacewing says:

    True that..and not only is the ex-fetus on it’s own, but if the mother and father cannot provide for the child…well obviously they just made some bad choices in life. That kind of choice, which is really no choice at all, the righties will allow them to make and decry their lack of personal responsibility.


  92. Nothing With a Face says:

    mary lacewing says:
    Good people at TP – what’s going on in this thread?

    When I first got here P.D. had been voted down on multiple posts.

    Is there something going on that I’m not getting? Or are there is a troll out there with 10 different accounts?!

    Check Liz @ 48.


  93. sscncturn64 says:

    Mary @88, I was thinking the same thing about PD. When I saw a -1 or -2 I voted up for PD. Then I came across one of her comments and saw a -8. Thats when I knew there was a troll getting his rocks off by hijacking. Do wingnuts even know how childish they are?


  94. mary lacewing says:

    OutstandingInMyField says:

    Following this to its logical conclusion only well-off people should be allowed to have babies. Yup, that sounds like a rightie’s way of thinking. Sigh.


  95. mary lacewing says:

    sscncturn64 says:

    When I first got here there were at least two of P.D.’s comments that had been voted down! Whaaaa?

    Calling TP, serious hijacking going on!


  96. mary lacewing says:

    Nothing like the subject of abortion to really send the trolls right over the edge.

    How about this? A woman should be able to decide for herself what to do with her own body. Wow – that’s some radical thinking there! Good grief.


  97. OutstandingInMyField says:

    Yeah Mary, I’ve even heard the argument that health care reform is wrong, as people should not have children they cannot take care of…this point of view was espoused by a teaparty type to a woman who’s child contracted cancer at age 5. I guess the hypocrite though the family should have budgeted for that eventuality.


  98. mary lacewing says:

    Someone’s got a bad case of vote-down-itis!

    I think there are some mental health specialists that might be able to help you out there pal!


  99. mary lacewing says:

    Meanwhile, OutstandingInMyField, those teaparty types are so busy playing with their guns they don’t even notice that women aren’t exactly lining up to have THEIR baby!

    That’s it! They’re just jealous!

    Yah, I think that’s it.


  100. mary lacewing says:

    Gotcha! Troll, you just fell into my trap! Haven’t had too many dates lately, eh? Didn’t think so.


  101. mary lacewing says:

  102. mary lacewing says:

    Gonna vote me down for laughing at you now?

    You realize how pathetic that’d be right?


  103. mary lacewing says:

    Ah hell – I’ve got better things to do with my time than mess around with trolls who can’t get dates.

    Seeya.


  104. OutstandingInMyField says:

    Moderation? It’s the proper name for a man part!


  105. Zooey says:

    “Hitler was a lefist”

    Srsly…some people are just awesomely stupid.


  106. dbadass says:

    Hi Zooey.
    Where’s the freakshow?


  107. Zooey says:

    No idea, and I hope I never get one.


  108. EugeneDebs says:

    Hitler was a RIGHTWINGNUT

    You are a liar and insufferably stupid. Just STFU you ignorant punkass troll


  109. LeftisRight says:

    I guess Casey finally realized that the Stupak amendment is more than what it was advertised as. Senator Casey may be anti-abortion, but he’s still a good guy.


  110. okie dokie says:

    Love the coat hanger idea, CREDO.
    Better yet, have one delivered
    to these congress members offices and their homes,
    by a woman,
    every day,
    until they remember why abortion was legalized,
    over thirty-five years ago.


  111. Game of Life says:

    Do repugs realize some women will commit suicide because abortion is not accessible?

    Do repugs realized the mental health breakdown some women have because of the lack of abortions?

    Abortion is a personal private choice.

    Choice means options, not your silly ways.

    Keep OUT of women’s issues.

    Why don’t we demand that men’s pleasure meds and toys be exempted from Medicare?

    Are repugs’ morality stable and sound? Do repugs practice what they preach? No and Hell no.

    Stay out of people’s draws, you bunch of “small government” (HA) loons.


  112. Game of Life says:

    What’s with repugs? They see no harm in a brutal rape and kidnapping and forcing women to carry a fetus to term.

    Stupid idiots.


  113. Bobwurst says:

    Uh, Igor, let’s use the accurate framing here: “pro-life” is the conservative framing of those that oppose abortion putting them on the so-called “moral” high ground. The pro-choice crowd more accurately calls them “anti-choice”.


  114. Badger says:

    If the Stupak Ammendment, or anything like it, is enacted into law as a part of the Health Care Bill…

    then the Republicans will have accomplished Something under a Democratic House, Senate and President…

    That they could NOT Achieve under Bush…with a Republican House, Senate, and President…

    Namely the Elimination of Coverage for Abortion by Insurance Policies.

    So…if a Woman experiences a Tragic Medical Emergency, where nothing can be done to save her Baby, and her life or health is put in Danger by continuing her pregnancy…then she can have an Abortion, but she and her family will be stuck with a mountain of Medical Bills.


  115. ZX-10R says:

  116. cd says:

    Casey’s office issued a press statement clarifying that the Senator supports preserving the status quo

    Take a good look folks this may be the only time we see TP use the phrase “status quo” in a positive light.

    FTR Though I do not like abortion remain highly pro-choice.


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