O’Reilly Upset Over 9/11 Trials: ‘I Don’t Care About The Constitution!’
O’Reilly Upset Over 9/11 Trials: ‘I Don’t Care About The Constitution!’
Since Attorney General Eric Holder announced his decision to move five Guantanamo Bay detainees — including Khalid Sheikh Mohammad — to New York for civilian trials on charges related to the Sept. 11, 2001 terror attacks, Fox News personalities have been up in arms. Karl Rove called it a “long-standing plot” by the Obama administration’s “left-wing lawyers who do not love America.”
But last night on Fox, the network’s top legal analyst Judge Andrew Napolitano — who has been known to disagree with Fox’s right-wing narratives on legal issues — disputed that view, citing the constitutional right to be tried in the place where the crime has been committed. “I don’t care about the Constitution!” host Bill O’Reilly responded. The debate continued:
O’REILLY: So why is he entitled to come to New York City to be tried in the civilian criminal court if he’s arrested in Pakistan?
NAPOLITANO: Because the document you don’t want me to talk about says when the government is going to prosecute you, it must do so in the place where the alleged harm was caused.
Later in the program, Fox analyst Brit Hume said he’d “been scouring the columns of various people opining about this to see if somebody makes a good argument for doing it,” adding, “And I really haven’t heard one.” Hume then noted Napolitano’s opinion and said, “I’m not certain I agree with that.” Watch it:
Holder’s “bold and principled” decision was “a victory for the rule of law and the American system of justice,” the Center for American Progress’ Ken Gude said.
“If you are accused, you get to know what you know what you are accused of, you get to face your accusers, and you get to defend yourself in court, and then you face a trial and a conviction. This is who we are as a system,” said Tom Andrews, director of the National Campaign to Close Guantanamo. “The Taliban? You can get a trial and a beheading in a few hours. That’s not our system of justice.”
Read more about Holder’s decision in today’s Progress Report.
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The conservatives can’t stand the idea of judges adding to the constitution, but they want each and every one of them to rewrite at will ?
November 17th, 2009 at 1:40 pmO’Reilly doesn’t support the Constitution. How unpatriotic and un-American of him.
November 17th, 2009 at 1:41 pmConservative thought: the Constitution is only there for when it applies to your argument.
Or…as some in the GOP would know it as…the “Declaration of Independence”.
November 17th, 2009 at 1:41 pmArticle 3, Section 2:
The Trial of all Crimes, except in Cases of Impeachment, shall be by Jury; and such Trial shall be held in the State where the said Crimes shall have been committed; but when not committed within any State, the Trial shall be at such Place or Places as the Congress may by Law have directed.
November 17th, 2009 at 1:41 pmWhat a bold fresh piece of … anti-Americanism.
November 17th, 2009 at 1:42 pmConservatives only want the courts to get involved when it’s time to stop the re-count and choose a president.
November 17th, 2009 at 1:42 pmSaw the great falafel say it last night. Napalitano was clearly ticked off by BO. BO said “don’t be a pinhead” right before Napalitano responded with his eloquent response.
We are a nation of laws and I, for one, will not cower to the fear mongering.
November 17th, 2009 at 1:44 pmI get a strong feeling the Right stands to take some shin shots via this trial. You think?
November 17th, 2009 at 1:44 pmLuckily the Constitution doesn’t care about Bill O’Reilly…
November 17th, 2009 at 1:45 pmThe Right have no idea how predictable they are. Their beliefs are always given, and the arguments and factoids are cooked up later.
If Holder had decided not to go with civilian trials, the Right would be agonizing over this lack of faith in the system and how it weakens America and the whole bit. They would be very worked up about it, to, bless their hearts.
One-Termer
November 17th, 2009 at 1:45 pmOr rather, the Constitution doesn’t care what Bill O’Reilly says… neither should the rest of the United States.
He’s a blow hard and a fool.
November 17th, 2009 at 1:47 pmIt’s always remarkable when conservatives demonstrate how much they don’t believe in our system of justice and how little faith they have in our constitution.
But, they talk a good game.
November 17th, 2009 at 1:48 pm“I don’t care about the Constitution!” host Bill O’Reilly responded.
We know. Sadly, we’ve known for a long time.
Weak-minded and weak-willed Americans think our strength as a country comes from our weaponry. It does not. It comes from our rule of law and its basic underlying principle that all shall have justice equally applied. The weak-minded and weak-willed, when dominant, weaken our country. O’Reilly is one such person.
November 17th, 2009 at 1:49 pmThey’re all members of the same club: the Constitution is merely a goddamned piece of paper to be used when it suits them and discarded when it doesn’t.
November 17th, 2009 at 1:50 pmThese anti-constitutional positions by the conservatives are the precise reason they loved cheney/rumsfeld and the enabler, bush.
They didn’t care what the Constitution said. They were riding the fear wagon and actually having to prove cases against “terrorists” was going to be difficult. They much more preferred to kidnap someone and label them in such a manner that looked like being a “cowboy” would keep Americans safe. The reality is that these cheney/rumsfeld and enabler bush actions only increased the hatred of America.
November 17th, 2009 at 1:52 pmThere goes all that “evidence” gained through coercion (torture).
No wonder regressives are in a tizzy.
The Bush crime family must be VERY pissed.
November 17th, 2009 at 1:53 pmVery good jokerlib
Hume doesnt agree because he flat out doesnt know what he is talking about. Imagine that.
November 17th, 2009 at 1:53 pmWhen Bush was in office, these jack-asses could give a crap what he did. Now Obama is in, they are acting like twits. This is all political. Plain and simple, to scare the sheeple. Unreal.
November 17th, 2009 at 1:53 pm.
THERE IS NO JUSTICE WHEN THE JUSTICE SYSTEM IS DENIED!
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November 17th, 2009 at 1:53 pmWe know, Bill. We know.
He really DOES have more in common with Taliban ideology than he’ll admit to:
*Mistreatment of women
*Hatred of secularism
*Loathing of fair trials…
November 17th, 2009 at 1:54 pmWhy does O’Reilly hate our founding fathers?!?
November 17th, 2009 at 1:54 pmYes O’Rally, we sure as hell know you DON’T care about the Constitution.
November 17th, 2009 at 1:54 pmBut, are you as fresh as a warm Summer’s Eve?
“I don’t care about the Constitution!” host Bill O’Reilly responded.”
Conservatives do not care about Constitutional rights unless they are the defendant. Then they are loudest screamers.
November 17th, 2009 at 1:54 pm“I don’t care about the Constitution!” host Bill O’Reilly responded.
Is there any doubt what these anti-Constitution clowns would yell the second they were tossed in a cell and told they were not entitled to any legal processes to defend themselves?
November 17th, 2009 at 1:55 pmpastcaring says: Why does O’Reilly hate our founding fathers
Because he’s a floundering mother.
November 17th, 2009 at 1:56 pm“O’Reilly Upset Over 9/11 Trials: ‘I Don’t Care About The Constitution!’”
The falafel King seems to not care about the U.S. Constitution yet BillO cared about his Constitutional rights when he was sued for sexual harrassment and had to fork up an undisclosed money to his former employee and accuser.
November 17th, 2009 at 1:58 pmIOKIYAR
November 17th, 2009 at 2:00 pmRULE OF LAW
RULE OF LAW
RULE OF LAW
RULE OF LAW
RULE OF LAW
RULE OF LAW
RULE OF LAW
RULE OF LAW
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RULE OF LAW
Duh, wasn’t this the ‘Neocon Top Ten’ during impeachment?
November 17th, 2009 at 2:02 pm.
Q U E S T I O N:
If O’Liely doesn’t care about the Constitution, then his rant about affording Constitutional Rights is just a straw man, NO?
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November 17th, 2009 at 2:02 pmI don’t think the righties are really that afraid of these detainees being prosecuted on US soil. What they ARE afraid of, and I think it makes them really nervous, is the prospect that the whole “torture” fiasco may come to the forefront at some point during these trials. If the media were to start talking about how much evidence was thrown out because it was obtained through torture, Americans may start to question the Bush Administration’s crimes and motives all over again. The right has been successful (with a little help from a dis-interested MSM) so far in burying these crimes and the last thing that they want is for a new light to be shone on it. If you look closely at exactly who is denouncing these trials you will see that they are all the same faces that stridently defended Cheney and the torture program from day one.
November 17th, 2009 at 2:03 pmI think 50 years from now this whole “War on Terror” will be seen as insane. Al Queda is a bunch of religious nutcases who attacked us on 9/11. Turning them into “warriors” by declaring them war on them was exactly what they wanted.
November 17th, 2009 at 2:05 pmBilbo will soon be worrying about “the war on Christmas” which will take precedence over everything else, so he will be out of this arguement soon
November 17th, 2009 at 2:05 pmLiberals wrap themselves in the Constitution and burn the flag.
November 17th, 2009 at 2:05 pmConservatives wrap themselves in the flag and burn the Constitution.
A Patriot Acting, I think that it obvious too. They don’t want the torture can of worms opened again and it will be.
Too bad.
November 17th, 2009 at 2:06 pm… i always hate to point it out in public, but in keeping with a theme:
better do a copy check on that Gude quote, ben…
November 17th, 2009 at 2:08 pmoops – that would be an Andrews quote, ben..
November 17th, 2009 at 2:09 pm“I don’t care about the Constitution!”
How is Bildo going to claim this was taken out of context?
November 17th, 2009 at 2:09 pmBilly hates America, plain and simple. It must stem from his being neglected by his mommy. #22 got it right: “fresh as a warm Summer’s Eve?” He’s just a Doosh.
November 17th, 2009 at 2:10 pmRove hates more than half of Americas citizens and works to keep them from voting thru caging.
I wouldnt call that ‘loving America’ no matter how many flag lapel pins he sticks on his porcine man boobs.
November 17th, 2009 at 2:10 pmCorrect. And I am shuddering just thinking about the sh!tstorm that will arise if the government is unable to convict KSM because of the inadmissability of this “coerced” evidence – all because the cowboys in the previous administration thought they were smarter than everyone else.
November 17th, 2009 at 2:11 pmHitler Was A Leftist says:
He didn’t say those exact words, stop lying ###holes.
Yes he did liar
November 17th, 2009 at 2:11 pmO’Reilly may not think much of our Constitution, but the American ruling class and its corporate media think little of international law and ending US imperial corporate intervention in third world countries.
Funny, the US has been terrorizing the third world for over a century now (since 1898 in the Philippines) and nobody in the corporate media blinks an eye. Even many so-called “progressives” are imperialists are heart and support US intervention in third world countries so that we can get natural resources and agricultural products at very low prices, thus ripping off the locals abroad.
Name one third world country blessed with natural resources that the US has not interfered in the last one hundred years.
November 17th, 2009 at 2:12 pmWhat did he say, exactly “Hitler was pro-privatization intent on merging business and goverment”
November 17th, 2009 at 2:12 pmHey Hitler,
What did Bildo say — exactly?
November 17th, 2009 at 2:13 pmHume then noted Napolitano’s opinion and said, “I’m not certain I agree with that.”
That’s okay Brit. I don’t give a crap what your opinion is either.
November 17th, 2009 at 2:13 pmOf course the Lying Hitler Lover knows who Prescott was, NO?
November 17th, 2009 at 2:13 pmHitlerwasaRIGHTWINGNUT
STFU and go kill yourself you worthless pile of dogshit. I whichever order you think best
November 17th, 2009 at 2:14 pmthe network’s top legal analyst Judge Andrew Napolitano — who has been known to disagree with Fox’s right-wing narratives on legal issues…
This is an ongoing case of reality having a liberal bias. The fox narrative has no legal basis, it’s purely the ignorant opinion of laypersons.
Co-workers were saying this week that Obama wants to let Gitmo prisoners go in the US and get them jobs. I asked rhetorically where they get such an absurd idea, but I know it comes from fox.
November 17th, 2009 at 2:14 pmA liar telling others to stop lying when they’re not. Funny.
November 17th, 2009 at 2:14 pmThe wingers either end up looking like cowards (”oh no, our prisons can’t hold scary people!”), totalitarians (”who cares about the constitution, kill them without trial!”), complicit thugs (”allowing KSM testify about being waterboarded 183 times in one month means the terrorists win!”) or all of the above. Shows what happens when your movement is dead from the neck up.
November 17th, 2009 at 2:14 pmWhat’s a number hole?
November 17th, 2009 at 2:14 pmZooey says:
“I don’t care about the Constitution!”
How is Bildo going to claim this was taken out of context?
He is going to say “It was taken completely out of context by far-left hate groups like TP and media matters.” and then refuse to explain how it was taken out of context.
November 17th, 2009 at 2:15 pmThese thugs, every last one of them, are upset as the trials most likely will uncover evidence they desperately want to hide. And it will be a big plus for President Obama.
November 17th, 2009 at 2:17 pmZooey says:
“I don’t care about the Constitution!”
How is Bildo going to claim this was taken out of context?
Simple. He’ll do what he always does. Claim that he didn’t say such a thing, and that those people saying he did are a bunch of leftist smear merchants. His audience, will of course, believe him without question.
A typical day on Fox News.
November 17th, 2009 at 2:17 pmgalmud says:
He is going to say “It was taken completely out of context by far-left hate groups like TP and media matters.” and then refuse to explain how it was taken out of context.
November 17th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
SOP then. :D
November 17th, 2009 at 2:17 pmDarnit Galmud!
Beat me to it. The Force is with you, no doubt!
November 17th, 2009 at 2:18 pmBillo doesn’t care about the Constitution?
Shocker.
November 17th, 2009 at 2:19 pmRegarding the venue hissyfit, as Attorney General Holder pointed out on the News Hour, New York has one of the most secure court systems in the world.
The courthouse is hardened and connected to holding cells via
tunnels.
Of course that won’t prevent the wingnuts from praying for an attack anyway.
November 17th, 2009 at 2:19 pmHitler, short gassy ugly dark haired distended gut was a purist
Like conservababe me thinks.
November 17th, 2009 at 2:20 pmhitler wanted prayer in school too.
November 17th, 2009 at 2:21 pmpastcaring says:
What’s a number hole?
that’s a pound symbol also…
pound that hole, shitler… how apropos…
November 17th, 2009 at 2:25 pmIf NYC was polled it would be unanimously in favor for trials to be held there. The party of NO is saying NO on chances of more information being uncovered. NO, NO, NO is all they have.
November 17th, 2009 at 2:26 pm卐 Hitler Was A republican says: 卐
is still lurking and voting us down. 卐 Hitler Was A republican says: 卐 is a coward as well as a liar.
卐 Hitler Was A republican says: 卐
November 17th, 2009 at 2:31 pm卐 Hitler Was A republican says: 卐
卐 Hitler Was A republican says: 卐
Time to haul O’Reilly off to Getmo for no reason at all, and let him rot away.
When he yells and swears at you by saying: “I demand a trial”; simply reply “what trial?”.
When he yells and swears at you by saying: “What did I do…Why did you put me in jail?”; simply reply “you mean we have to have a reason?”.
When he demands a lawyer, laugh out loud at him and say “What Lawyer?”.
Then toss a copy of the Constitution through the bars in his jail cell and tell him, “See what you think no longer is worth the paper it’s printed on does for you, Billo?”.
Happy Reading!!
November 17th, 2009 at 2:31 pm卐 Hitler Was A republican says: 卐
November 17th, 2009 at 2:33 pmAs usual, O’Reily uses the fear mongering tonal quality when stating 9/11.
Give it up Billo…it is no longer working and the flood gates of evidence are about to be opened creating the ruination of the Party of NO.
November 17th, 2009 at 2:37 pmI tuned in while waiting for Keith to come back from break just long enough to hear Bill call the judge a pinhead. Just ridiculous behaviour. I can’t watch FoxNews for any length of time. Maybe a minute here and there out of curiousity. I sometimes think about having it blocked.
November 17th, 2009 at 2:41 pmOne point I don’t hear any conservative hacks like Brit Hume and O’Reilly bring up is whether or not they realize how illegal immigrant murderers are treated by the court system in the USA as compared to terrorists. Do we send illegals to Gitmo and try them before military commissions? No. We try them in American courts, where they get universal – not just American – rights like HABEUS CORPUS, just like we’re doing with KSM, and just like we did with hundreds of other non-American criminals/terrorists like Zacharias Moussaoui, the Blind Sheik and others.
I’ve also heard other wingnuts ask “Why KSM is going to American courts, while U.S.S. Cole bombers are going before military commissions in Gitmo”? Um, how about the fact that criminals who kill Americans OUTSIDE of America – like the Cole suspects – don’t get treated the same as criminals who kill Americans INSIDE of the country. That’s just too much commonn sense for some wingnuts to understand, I guess.
November 17th, 2009 at 2:42 pmSigh. This thread got Godwin’ed so very fast.
Anyway… just had to contribute my 2 cents:
If you don’t respect the American Constitution, your claims that America is the greatest country in the world are pure hypocritical bull5h1t.
The Constitution MAKES the country.
November 17th, 2009 at 2:44 pmMore right-wing hypocrisy. The far right and teabaggers ditto “liberty, freedom, Constitution!” ad nauseum but why do they lose faith in the Constitution and defame it when it comes to trying terrorists on U.S. soil?
November 17th, 2009 at 2:51 pmUmm, he says those EXACT words at :22 of the video… just saying.
November 17th, 2009 at 2:54 pmPrescott Bush LOVED Hitler.
Hitler LOVED the TREASONOUS Bush family.
Gworge W. sukked dix in college, according to Victor Ashe.
Bushes and Hitler ARE Nazis.
Right-wing TREASONOUS unamerikkkan Bush Family….
November 17th, 2009 at 2:55 pm@#43:
Funny, the US has been terrorizing the third world for over a century now (since 1898 in the Philippines)
Actually, since 1893, when a group of sugar growers overthrew the government of the Queen of Hawaii and the US sent in the Marines to back their coup.
November 17th, 2009 at 2:58 pm“I don’t care about the Constitution!”
Wow the true comes out.
Billo really is a quasi-Nazi.
November 17th, 2009 at 2:59 pmAh…Cluster-Fox…home of the Stupid and overpaid…..hangout of the tepid…..gathering spot of the lost and wandering……..Billo-the-clown and beck on a tour bus together..what could possibly go wrong…. even the Cluster-Judge said Billo was an idiot…. what dirtbags…
November 17th, 2009 at 3:00 pm“I don’t care about the Constitution!” host Bill O’Reilly responded…. no surprise there.
But thank Bob that we live in a country governed by the Rule of Law and not the Rule of O’Reilly.
November 17th, 2009 at 3:06 pmMost Reichwhiners have never even read the Constitution, much less understood it. Nor the Bible, nor even the Ten Commandments. Their worldview is constructed around what they hate and justify it as “interpretation” of that they do not know in the first place.
November 17th, 2009 at 3:12 pmSince BillO doesn’t care about the Constitution, then he should voluntarily surrender the following rights:
November 17th, 2009 at 3:13 pmI. Freedom of religion, speech, assembly, and petition
II. Right to bear arms
III. Freedom from forced quartering of soldiers
IV. Right to security from search and seizure
V. Right to due process of law
VI. Right to jury trial in criminal cases
VII. Right to jury trial in common law cases
VIII. Freedom from excessive bail, fines or punishments
Hey Bill, nut up or shut up!
Belaccifer.
Of COURSE he did. You cant take anything the Hitler troll says seriously. He couldnt care less if he is lying. He is pure troll its all about the provocation
November 17th, 2009 at 3:21 pmPerhaps Bill0 added an eleventh Amendment to the Bill Of Rights?
#11: No libruls shall impinge upon the right of Real Amurikens to shoot anyone they don’t like or are afraid of or talk’s funny or has a weird name.
November 17th, 2009 at 3:34 pmBumper sticker for the 2010 elections:
I don’t care about
November 17th, 2009 at 3:35 pmthe Constitution!
Vote GOP
“The Taliban? You can get a trial and a beheading in a few hours. That’s not our system of justice.”
It is if you’re Sarah Palin! Guess that makes her just like the Taliban.
November 17th, 2009 at 3:36 pm“O’Reilly Upset Over 9/11 Trials: ‘I Don’t Care About The Constitution!’”
clearly, or you wouldn’t have supported the appointed dickweed dubbya
November 17th, 2009 at 3:48 pmThis just in: Republicans don’t want terrorism prosecuted.
November 17th, 2009 at 3:58 pm——————————————————————————–
A Patriot Acting says:
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I don’t think the righties are really that afraid of these detainees being prosecuted on US soil. What they ARE afraid of, and I think it makes them really nervous, is the prospect that the whole “torture” fiasco may come to the forefront at some point during these trials. If the media were to start talking about how much evidence was thrown out because it was obtained through torture, Americans may start to question the Bush Administration’s crimes and motives all over again. The right has been successful (with a little help from a dis-interested MSM) so far in burying these crimes and the last thing that they want is for a new light to be shone on it. If you look closely at exactly who is denouncing these trials you will see that they are all the same faces that stridently defended Cheney and the torture program from day one.
SPOT ON!
Also – these clowns were tortured for 8 years. Thier confessions are inadmissable.
Also the official conspiracy theory is quite unbelievable. I mean 19 cavedwellers with box cutters defeating the CIA, FBI, NSA, NORAD and the US Air Force.
Not to mention the whole building 7 thing- the molten metal thing and the thermite in the dust thing.
It is possible with a good defense lawyer that these folks will be let go.
Nah – that will not happen – the fix is in.
November 17th, 2009 at 5:34 pm9/11 Truthers 1 Bush 0
November 17th, 2009 at 5:36 pmAmerica, there you have it, the right does NOT care about the Constitution and NEVER have UNLESS it benefits them.
November 17th, 2009 at 5:40 pmO’Reilly: Constitution, schmonstitution (as an American flag waves in his backdrop)
November 17th, 2009 at 5:42 pm#88 AUDIT THE FED – I agree.
I’m hoping for more than simply the torture subject to come up again in these trials. I’m hoping it brings the entire events of 9/11 back into the spotlight..
We need an INDEPENDENT investigation.
November 17th, 2009 at 6:01 pmctcadguy
Also the official conspiracy theory is quite unbelievable. I mean 19 cavedwellers with box cutters defeating the CIA, FBI, NSA, NORAD and the US Air Force.
Not to mention the passengers of the planes themselves..knowing they were headed surely for death – even passengers who worked for the DEPT. of DEFENSE.. but a couple guys with box cutters took the entire crew and passengers on.. 4 times in one day – and 3 buildings collapsing to their footprint from ‘fires’.. in one day, when it’s never happened before in history. When an airplane hits the pentagon in the exact area that has been recently reinforced.. when all the video of the airplane disappears into the hands of the feds.. when their had been recent ‘fireproofing’ efforts of the twin towers – on the exact floors of the buildings where the planes hit? A security company that conducted work on the elevators at the time..was until just before the events led by JEB BUSH?? Buildings which were owned solely by New York.. until only a month before when they were taken for a 99 year lease by Larry Silverstein? Larry Silverstein who caught on video for PBS said that he decided to ‘pull’ world trade 7…. Conspicuous ‘evidence’ of the terrorists.. like passports that survived the buildings collapse?
You know what.. there’s far too much evidence to list in any comment like this – it goes on forever. I do suggest you all find it on the sites of true patriots who expose it. The true conspiracy is ‘the official story’.
I don’t know what it might do to our image as a people and a Government were we to prove our government’s involvement in 9/11.. I’m sure it will diminish our standing in the world. But the fact that our people pursued justice and attained it – that would overcome such a loss.
Our strength is in the rule of law.. and that we punish our criminals.. not in one reckless – and arguably heartless administration.
November 17th, 2009 at 6:24 pmO’Reilly Upset Over 9/11 Trials: ‘I Don’t Care About The Constitution!’
Man, O’Reilly sounds like a liberal democrat.
November 17th, 2009 at 6:31 pmncbrickhome says:
Prescott Bush LOVED Hitler.
Hitler LOVED the TREASONOUS Bush family.
Gworge W. sukked dix in college, according to Victor Ashe.
Bushes and Hitler ARE Nazis.
Right-wing TREASONOUS unamerikkkan Bush Family….
Sir, I read in the newspaper the local mental institution has a opening in the rubber room.
November 17th, 2009 at 6:34 pmHi Mr. Duke.
November 17th, 2009 at 6:48 pmSo, the only thing in the whole Constitution reichwingers care about is the 2nd amendment? And maybe the 10th, if they can use it to challenge Pres Obama’s legitimacy.
In other words, they want to pick and choose what laws to abide by.
What a bunch of simple-minded, selfish jerks.
November 17th, 2009 at 7:08 pmThe Reich wing is terrified that testimony regarding the torture of American prisoners will be entered into the record. Such testimony would be enough to launch a formal investigation by the justice department, without the wingnuts being able to complain that it is a partisan witch hunt.
November 17th, 2009 at 7:18 pmI pledge allegiance to the Constitution of the United States of Americs.
November 17th, 2009 at 7:50 pmAnd to the republic which it protects.
One nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.
FVNY says:
What alll you leftists seem to be forgetting is that the Constitution only applies to American citizens!
You are wrong. The Constitution applies to citizens and any person within the borders of the US.
November 17th, 2009 at 8:58 pmO’Reilly was simply channelling his inner Bush/Cheney mindset.
November 17th, 2009 at 9:24 pmFVNY says:
What alll you leftists seem to be forgetting is that the Constitution only applies to American citizens!
November 17th, 2009 at 8:25 pm
FVNY, you stupid Un-American sl ut. The Constitution applies to everyone in this country. We don’t have one court for “us,” and one court for “them.”
Grow up, you frackin’ teabagger.
November 17th, 2009 at 9:54 pmUnfortunately, many of the most vocal critics of the current plan (to try the accused in a Federal court) are of the mind that ANY trial is unwarranted and that the accused should simply be summarily found guilty and executed.
Somewhat akin to what is done in some theocracies and dictatorships around the world…
November 17th, 2009 at 10:09 pmMr.Duke says:
‘I Don’t Care About The Constitution!’
Man, O’Reilly sounds like a liberal democrat.
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Only one major problem with your little ‘theory’, I’ve yet to hear a Democrat ever utter these words
Republicans, on the other hand, say it on a regular basis.
November 18th, 2009 at 12:35 am“I don’t care about the Constitution!” host Bill O’Reilly responded.”
Isn’t that the first plank in the Republican platform?
November 18th, 2009 at 2:26 amBill-o: “I don’t care about the Constitution.”
November 18th, 2009 at 8:04 amJust like the biblethumpers, they pick and choose what parts they’ll follow or adhere to.
Bill O. “I don’t care about the Constitution”.
For the first time in his life, he’s being honest. Can we send him to North Korea now?
November 18th, 2009 at 11:26 amBack when I was younger, people like Bill O’Reilly and the other psychos on Fox News were put in mental hospitals, not given TV shows.
Whatever happened to that idea?
November 18th, 2009 at 3:36 pmI’m all for the rule of law and standing for our principles. I do believe that holding someone without trial and military commissions are inherently a very bad idea and created a ‘tiered’ justice system which is really no system at all.
However, Holder and Obama are anything but “bold and principled” in this decision. They haven’t a leg to stand on because while they are trying these five men they continue to hold others indefinitely and send others to military commissions. They are trying give lip-service to being fair and even handed when all they are really doing (and Holder pretty much admitted this) is sending the terrorists to the federal justice system only if they feel it’s a slam-dunk case. Otherwise they’ll just deny them any rights and continue using the same tactics the Bush Administration used.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:52 amI guess I’m just playing Cheney’s advocate here, but KSM’s crime is planning and coordinating (conspiracy) the murder of thousands of Americans, yes? And he did this while outside of the U.S., didn’t he? And therefore perhaps is not subject to any Constitutional rights? I would appreciate if someone could help me see that this isn’t some technicality that could be exploited by KSM or the Right or the Bill Orallys of the world. Thanks
November 19th, 2009 at 11:17 am