The newest far-right craze is an anti-Obama slogan that is making its way onto t-shirts, bumper stickers, mugs, and even teddy bears: “Pray for Obama: Psalm 109:8,” which reads, “Let his days be few; and let another take his office.” The meme is also taking off on Twitter, with conservatives calling it “hilarious.” Commentators have noted that it’s unclear whether the intent is to hope for an end to Obama’s time in office — or an end to his life. But a look at the lines in the rest of the psalm hint at the latter:
Let his days be few; and let another take his office.
Let his children be fatherless, and his wife a widow.
Let his children be continually vagabonds, and beg: let them seek their bread also out of their desolate places.
Let the extortioner catch all that he hath; and let the strangers spoil his labor.
Let there be none to extend mercy unto him: neither let there be any to favor his fatherless children.
Let his posterity be cut off; and in the generation following let their name be blotted out.
Let the iniquity of his fathers be remembered with the LORD; and let not the sin of his mother be blotted out.
Let them be before the LORD continually, that he may cut off the memory of them from the earth.
Diana Butler Bass at Beliefnet explains that Psalm 109 is one of the “imprecatory” prayers, “a lament in the form of petition to destroy one’s enemies.” While perhaps intended to be a joke, she notes that the psalm actually “entreats God to destroy the president”:
It is the personal prayer of an individual, someone who has been dealt an injustice by another–and usually more powerful–person. The words of Psalm 109 are those of deep agony, the longings of a victim for retribution and justice. This psalm is considered one of the most difficult of all the psalms–full of violent images of vengeance and death.
Quite a few of the “Pray for Obama” items are being sold at CafePress.com, although many of them have been taken off of the site (here’s a cached version of some of them). Cafe Press representative Margene H. told ThinkProgress that while the site took down some of the “Pray for Obama” items today, it is now in the process of reinstating them:
We initially pulled the Psalm 109:8 content from our products today because broader media dialog indicated that these designs potentially suggested violence towards the president. Based on current public discourse and further review of the actual content, we have determined that it is fair political commentary and we are in the process of reinstating this merchandise. As with all of our content, these designs will continue to be reviewed and if at any time their meaning is construed as advocating violence we will revisit our decision.
On Tuesday, MSNBC’s Rachel Maddow spoke with “Patience With God” author Frank Schaeffer, who said that while the psalm was “frightening” in a secular context, it’s even “more threatening” in a biblical context.
That is despicable. These fake “Christians” are LOATHESOME.
November 19th, 2009 at 5:07 pmwearing that shirt in front of me would not be advisable.
November 19th, 2009 at 5:08 pmNote to commenters: We had a momentary database crash, so we lost some comments in the process. We’re trying to restore them. I apologize for the inconvenience.
November 19th, 2009 at 5:08 pmCompassionate conservatism is an oxymoron.
November 19th, 2009 at 5:09 pm“based on current public discourse”
So that means that since the current public discourse is in the toilet, we will allow it to continue?
November 19th, 2009 at 5:09 pmThis is just absolutely “crazy”. What is wrong with these people? Using God’s name to kill the leader of our America is some kind of cute joke to them? Absolutely “crazy” and just so “sad”.
November 19th, 2009 at 5:13 pmThese “Christians” are not worthy to speak The Lord’s name. Praying for the death of a public official……..I think that is lower than the proverbial snake’s belly…and maybe God thinks so, too. If they believe in God, maybe they will accept whatever fate befalls them for being so un-Christian. I will never understand why all Republicans are so angry, so uncaring about others, and obsessed with killing and violence toward the people who don’t think like them–it goes against true Christian principles.
November 19th, 2009 at 5:13 pmOnce again the religious right only seems to have read the Old Testement.
Luke 6:27-36
“But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. If someone strikes you on one cheek, turn to him the other also. If someone takes your cloak, do not stop him from taking your tunic. Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. Do to others as you would have them do to you.”
November 19th, 2009 at 5:13 pmI have laughed at a number of signs, bumper stickers, and T-shirts expressing negative thoughts about George W. Bush and Dick Cheney (many of them quite humorous, I thought).
But I have never laughed at or supported any jibe that suggested they should be dead. Or that wished harm to their families. That’s over the top.
November 19th, 2009 at 5:14 pmIsn’t this illegal? If ‘Liberals’ pulled this with Bush, we would be in Gitmo by now. These ‘Religious’ folks are advocating violence. I’m really sure Jesus would approve. Snark.
November 19th, 2009 at 5:16 pmwe have determined that it is fair political commentary
Since when has an implicit threat against the life of the President of the United States been ‘fair political commentary’?
I used to pity these poor right wingers… now I’m scared of what they, in their pious zealous fervor, might perpetrate upon our country.
November 19th, 2009 at 5:17 pmIt wasn’t enough that they want the man to fail. That was pretty petty and unAmerican.
Now they want him to die in their religious compassion.
Fundamental Christianity needs to go to the top of the list for dangerous mental disorders.
November 19th, 2009 at 5:18 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Uh, the Bible in many, many more places instructs us to pray for our leaders.
as for crowd that likes the Bears, remember that a man wanted guidance from the Bible by opening it at random locations in the new testament.
First verse he found was “Judas went out and hanged himself.”
He didn’t understand till he opened the Bible again to “As that man did, do thou likewise.”
Third attempt was “What thou doest, do so quickly.”
November 19th, 2009 at 5:20 pmThese people better be careful. They are dealing with some dangerous gris-gris. Whatever they wish on others, eventually comes back at them.
November 19th, 2009 at 5:20 pmThen said Jesus, “Father, forgive them; for they know not what they do.
November 19th, 2009 at 5:21 pm“Do not swear falsely by the name of the LORD…”
November 19th, 2009 at 5:22 pmThis commandment is to never take the name of God in a vain, pointless or insincere oath.
And yet these same people piss and moan about being under seige, they b!tch about a fantasized war on christmas, and here they go citing biblical admonitions to destroy a democratically elected president.
Rule # 50,006 why I am not a believer…
November 19th, 2009 at 5:23 pm@13, You are lying. NO ONE IN HERE advocated to harm Bush, for you to imply otherwise is an insult. And for sure, a lot of lefties used inflamatory rhetoric, But nothing like THESE people. They beat the band.
November 19th, 2009 at 5:23 pmRemember when the Left was castigated by the General Betray-us foofaraw and it demanded that the Democratic leadership publicly denounce the use of that?
Why doesn’t the Left do the same to the Republican leadership? Aside from our continuing lack of testicular fortitude?
November 19th, 2009 at 5:25 pmHow Orwellian
the KKKristian KKKult is in full meltdown mode……and i am glad to see it.
i can’t wait for those FEMA re-education/education camps to be ready
November 19th, 2009 at 5:25 pmI am shocked! What kind of mentality would openly prescribe to this prayer. Asking their god to bring violence on the family of Obama. The political discourse has grown perversred.
Just a note, in my church, we pray for the health and protection of his family and ask for the gift of wisdom for the president.
What is happening to these people? Where is the godly example to be set by the religious right?
I assume the religious right is providing the religious justification for the killing of Obama. I am sure a member on the right”s fringe is taking notice.
November 19th, 2009 at 5:26 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Commentators have noted that it’s unclear whether the intent is to hope for an end to Obama’s time in office — or an end to his life.
those commentators are being obtuse and/or misleading…
an attempt at CYA…
this is proof the christianistas are complete hypocrites…
November 19th, 2009 at 5:26 pmSouthern Man 2 says:
There were quite a few posters in here that wished much harm on Bush. Selective memories? I can go back and get some if you don’t remember.
Did Obama trash the Geneva Conventions? Illegally wiretap Americans? You should face the truth, that Bush, unlike Obama, is a war criminal. And why wouldn’t we wish ill of a war criminal? Do you think we should also posthumously give Joe Mengele a medal?
November 19th, 2009 at 5:27 pmWhere is the moderate Christian leadership denouncing this violent interpretation of their religious texts? Or does this mean that Christianity is a violent religion?
November 19th, 2009 at 5:29 pmI just closed my CafePress account. Reason given: The “Pray for Obama” offerings. No loss, actually. Total income in 2.5 years: $0.00.
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Crank you assume that most Christians have even heard of this new crap.
Fact is most of them haven’t.
November 19th, 2009 at 5:30 pmThese loons will continue with their death threats if they aren’t stopped.
kkk will NOT rise again!
These fools are ready to strike and so am I.
November 19th, 2009 at 5:30 pmOooh I love playing this game! I think I’m gonna make up some teddy bears and t-shirts too using some of my own favorite imprecatory Psalms. How about these:
PRAY FOR SELF-RIGHTEOUS, HYPOCRITICAL CHRISTIANS!
Psalm 69:28
[Let them be blotted out of the book of the living;
let them not be enrolled among the righteous.]
Psalm 58:8
[Let them be like the snail that dissolves into slime,
like the stillborn child who never sees the sun.]
Just saying . . .
November 19th, 2009 at 5:31 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
idle crank says:
Where is the moderate Christian leadership denouncing this violent interpretation of their religious texts? Or does this mean that Christianity is a violent religion?
It IS a violent superstition. Further, quite a lot of so-called “christians” are simply cowards.
November 19th, 2009 at 5:33 pmI’ll grant the stupid troll a point. It was not unusual to see some pretty hateful comments about our former President. Generally, someone would call out such comments and I challenged a few myself. After all, if we become what we despise we lose.
On the other hand, what one did not see was “lefty” groups marketing merchandise that called for dire personal harm to anybody, including the former President.
November 19th, 2009 at 5:33 pmSouthern Man – I called for Bush’s death.
AFTER – AFTER he was tried and convicted of treason and war crimes in a court of law.
That’s not hatred, pal.
THAT’S JUSTICE.
It doesn’t surprise me one bit that a gap-toothed moron like you wouldn’t understand the difference.
November 19th, 2009 at 5:34 pmSince there is no god, these lunatics praying to the nonexistant is meaningless.
November 19th, 2009 at 5:35 pmHowever, their intent is to advocate the heavenly assassination of the president is a somewhat different tack.
Got Secret Service?
I’m sure these signs will be everywhere at the next Bachman-
November 19th, 2009 at 5:35 pmteabagger party/press conference.
Here we go. The trolls are arriving en masse. This is the kind of thing they get off on. Typical!
November 19th, 2009 at 5:35 pmsouthern man, you have a valid point. I’ve made a point to try and not attack personally and have fallen short of that from time to time.
There is real anger on both sides that froths to the top and civil discourse evaporates.
November 19th, 2009 at 5:35 pmThe trolls need to stop comparing that POS Bush with our current president as far as treatment. POS Bush deserved each and every insult hurled at his sorry ass.
November 19th, 2009 at 5:35 pmconservative guy says:
Liberals can sure dish it out but they can’t take it.
November 19th, 2009 at 5:36 pm—-
Than promptly runs away….
There’s my answer right there. Thank you. Some of you are no different than these people. The irony is incredible. You are who you hate and just can’t seem to see it. WOW!
Po, pitiful troll. The vast majority of progressive types are more focused on the damage done by GW and company. Yes, there is a desire to see justice done for crimes committed. At no time in the previous administration was there ever any coordinated call for the death of the Shrub. At no time was there any continued call in the media for his failure.
November 19th, 2009 at 5:38 pmHow so very Reichwing Conservative Christian of them…Jesus died for these Fcks?
November 19th, 2009 at 5:39 pmI believe that everyone who is praying for Obama’s demise through these absurdaties, are praying for thier own Demise, although they do not know it.
November 19th, 2009 at 5:40 pmPerhaps would it best to mention a spell from the Greek Magical Papyri that asks the supreme gods to drain the blood out of someone’s body? It’s just that one is more blatant while the other is more subtle…
November 19th, 2009 at 5:40 pmSouthern Man, yes I had a bumpersticker that read
November 19th, 2009 at 5:40 pm“more trees, less bush”
and while I didn’t wish the village idiot dead, I did and do still despise him…perhaps I would despise Obama as well if he will let a major city drown while he plays air guitar as well…somehow I doubt that Obama pays lip service to his religious ideals however…
exactly krazeeinjun. This latest stunt just shows that religion has been bastardized to be used against others. Maybe it always has been that way and this is just the latest chapter.
Congratulations far right. Carrying on a long tradition.
November 19th, 2009 at 5:40 pmThe white religious right is too stupid to understand they’re the ones being cursed in Psalm 109.
Posted by intheflow in General Discussion
Wed Nov 18th 2009, 06:34 AM
Psalm 109 actually supports Obama. Really!
Take a look at the entire passage.
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/intheflow/374
November 19th, 2009 at 5:41 pmAnd eliminationist assassination rhetoric goes mainstream.
November 19th, 2009 at 5:42 pmLangx @48, is it any wonder they don’t get it? It’s like they’re running with scissors and haven’t fallen on them just yet…
November 19th, 2009 at 5:44 pmVote down monkey strikes back!!!
November 19th, 2009 at 5:46 pmIt almost makes me wish there were a God. I’d love to see their feeble attempts to atone for this.
November 19th, 2009 at 5:46 pmSouthern Man 2 … you….are….an….idiot.
Obama = no crime
Bush = many, many crimes
Harm to Bush, no…a lengthy jail term, yes.
But most of us are not for the death penalty, even in Bush’s case.
Please, continue to display your stupidity upon us.
November 19th, 2009 at 5:46 pmtawdry freaks will do stuff like that.
keep diggin’ that hole, righties.
November 19th, 2009 at 5:47 pmNot only have these people corrupted the idea of “Freedom” , now they are suborning death and destruction of our president, through the use of religion……This is a pathetic display of what is wrong with this country!!
November 19th, 2009 at 5:49 pmStay Classy GOP !
November 19th, 2009 at 5:49 pmJudge ye lest ye be judged repug.
November 19th, 2009 at 5:50 pmWhat part of christianity is this supposed to be? I never approved of W but I never wished anything bad to happen to him as my President of the United States. These people are traitors and un-American terrorists.
November 19th, 2009 at 5:51 pmVote down monkey strikes back!!!
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November 19th, 2009 at 5:51 pmConsidering their nanosecond half-lives why do you think they bother? Wouldn’t a normal person choose to use words to try to convey their ideas?
It’s all racism. If they did off Obama, VP Biden would step in, who is still a democrat and he will carry out Obama’s agenda.
November 19th, 2009 at 5:52 pmSo, a democrat will still be in office…what they really are saying is they don’t want a black president.
Fake Christians indeed.
”While perhaps intended to be a joke, she notes that the psalm actually “entreats God to destroy the president”:
Perhaps Ms. Bass doesn’t understand; to wingnuts, destruction of a Democratic president qualifies as high comedy.
November 19th, 2009 at 5:52 pmSatire that is obviously beyond the comprehension of Southern Man and conservative guy. Sigh . . .
Just saying…
November 19th, 2009 at 5:52 pmJust more proof that Repubs/conservatives/right-wingers are pro-death, anti-American, & anti-Government. They are a sad, hateful, racist lot of garbage. And they don’t even understand the Bible– rather ironic. Imagine if Dems had actually “prayed” for the death of Bush/Cheney. There is NOTHING christian, caring, loving, or peaceful about these GOP/right-wing/teabagger violence-mongers. Their Jesus must be weeping at their hatred & death-mongering.
November 19th, 2009 at 5:53 pmA normal person wouldn’t be a christofascist repube who debases themselves daily, to begin with…but to each his own I always say…
November 19th, 2009 at 5:54 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
There is a reason the founding fathers wanted to keep religion out of government. They are nuts.
November 19th, 2009 at 5:55 pmI continue to find it odd that those who screech the loudest about “absolute morality” are largely defined by their moral relativism. Even while they bleat about their superiority they display, and/or defend, the most vile acts imaginable. When one of them gets caught? All is forgiven so long as the guilty party maintains the “pure” message.
November 19th, 2009 at 5:56 pmSouthern Man 2 says:
When does it stop? When can each side be civil? I don’t see it happening in my lifetime.
Perhaps it would help if you were to stop trying to excuse the actions of Reichwing extremists with plaintive whining that “they say mean things too”?
November 19th, 2009 at 5:58 pmI will never understand how a person (repugs) can knowingly pervert teh teachings of a near pacifist (Jesus) and then put their actions on display the sellers of the propaganda).
November 19th, 2009 at 6:00 pmWhen can each side be civil? I don’t see it happening in my lifetime.
November 19th, 2009 at 6:02 pm—
Maybe when people stop making ridiculous broad brush statements that are factually untrue but suit their ideological needs maybe as to say welfare….
Funny how so many of these “Christians” rely so much on the Old Testament rather than the New which professes to contain the word and deeds of Christ (you know, the guy they’re supposed to emulate in word and deed).
November 19th, 2009 at 6:03 pmconservative guy says:
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Liberals can sure dish it out but they can’t take it.
What a lame, infantile comment, worse than you normally do.
By the way, you’re dam”ed right I can’t take it!! I took this oath over 40 years ago:
I, (NAME), do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; and that I will obey the orders of the President of the United States and the orders of the officers appointed over me, according to regulations and the Uniform Code of Military Justice. So help me God. During that time I spent my military career defending against our foreign. I still live by that oath and anyone who utters a spoken or written threat against MY President will have to deal with me.
Also “Con Guy”, I’m a man of my word, for I would do the same for Bush. To me, whoever is in the office is my Commander-in-Chief, someone who shoulders more responsibility than me or you for that matter. He, no matter who it is, deserves our support, whether we voted for him or not.
Disagree with him all you want, I defended that right for you, but respect the man AND the office or you will deal with me! I disagreed with Bush and when given the chance I voted against him, BUT I never would or will wished him ill because not only am I an American, I’m also a Christian who remembers that my God is a forgiving God and loves us all, even you.
November 19th, 2009 at 6:04 pmJust demonstrating their “Christian” moral values…
November 19th, 2009 at 6:05 pmI meant to add now it looks as if I’ll have to defend my country against domestic enemies. My God, what has this country come to? I’ve seen better Banana Republics!!!!!!
During that time I spent my military career defending against our foreign.
November 19th, 2009 at 6:06 pmThis is the sort of sh*t my inlaws will be purchasing each other for Xmas. Ugh. The scary thing is how much similar stuff is on CafePress.
November 19th, 2009 at 6:10 pm“Supreme angels, just as this frog drips with blood and dries up, so also will the body of …
from the Greek Magical Papyri
November 19th, 2009 at 6:10 pmThese Fundamentalists are so very unChristian in their hate preaching behavior. Their tactics are not good recruiting tools. If the real Christians don’t start speaking up against these heathens, then Christianity will become a minority religion.
November 19th, 2009 at 6:16 pmI purchased merchandise from cafepress in the past but I sent them an email today — this merchandise is over the top and they should not be a part of the political scene today where violence is advocated.
November 19th, 2009 at 6:17 pmContact them at
http://www.cafepress.com and follow the prompts till you get to the email page.
I emailed them to Marie and told them they should be investigated and held responsible by the CIA. Jerks.
November 19th, 2009 at 6:19 pmThis example shows a couple of disturbing issues.
First, people (conservatives in this example) seem to think it makes sense to take politics to a personal level. Disagree with President Obama all you want. But at what point does it make rational sense to wish him and his family personal tragedy? Make his wife a widow and his children fatherless? WTF?
Additionally, If I were a Christian I wouldn’t be highlighting this Psalm at all. How Christian is pray for innocent children to become vagabonds and beggars?
The people wearing these shirts should be less concerned with President Obama’s administration and more troubled that the God they invest their prayers in would condone and support vengeance.
November 19th, 2009 at 6:21 pmhow many of these bears will sarahp receive from her flock this xmas??
how many will she keep?
will huck keep them, too?
November 19th, 2009 at 6:25 pmConservatives are dangerous and Van Jones was right about them: they’re as*holes!
November 19th, 2009 at 6:25 pmIf I see someone wearing that unpatriotic tee shirt, all I can say is “Good thing I don’t have gun”. But that could change.
November 19th, 2009 at 6:28 pmWhat toes around, comes around… but it sure does give us a nice, upfront view of the upstanding moral christians who think they should be running the country… I don’t ever remember anything this repellant, but then he is the first black President. I guess it was a mistake to think the country had matured…
November 19th, 2009 at 6:30 pmSouthern Man, I pray that your days in office will be few, that your wife will be widowed, and your children orphaned, destitue and starving. It’s the “Christain” thing to do…
November 19th, 2009 at 6:31 pmI just wrote my Senator and asked him when the Democrats would be showing some outrage on the Senate floor.
November 19th, 2009 at 6:32 pmAnd when would the Republicans be called upon to denounce this kind of merchandising.
This is more proof that religion is basically a cult to be used by Republicans.
November 19th, 2009 at 6:34 pmHate is not a family value.
November 19th, 2009 at 6:36 pmbackup
You make a point — Christianity takes its very name from Christ — who was a socialistic pacifist.
Fundamentalist christians like to use the old testament bible when it suits them — but all those passages that don’t serve apurpose for them are ignored.
For me? All religion is superstition, exclusionist, war-like, authoritarian, self-righteous, and sanctimonious. I know more people who are atheists with higher sense of morality every day of the week than the ones who go to church every Sunday and live like the devil all week.
November 19th, 2009 at 6:37 pmOne has to wonder about people who believe waging war and killing people is more important than caring for the the sick and dying at home.
November 19th, 2009 at 6:39 pmJust a bit of trivia. His last name is not Christ. Christ is derived from the Greek Kristos or King. It is a title he denied almost to his dying breath. Jesus is his Latinized first name, Yeshua is more traditional. And his last patronimic would be bar Josef.
November 19th, 2009 at 6:42 pmAnd the middle initial H stands for?
November 19th, 2009 at 6:44 pmDoes anyone know where this crap is produced and under what kinds of workplace conditions?
November 19th, 2009 at 6:45 pmPray for the Republicans, Matthew 7:1-2
November 19th, 2009 at 6:47 pmthe H stands for either Holy or Horatio.
November 19th, 2009 at 6:48 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
dbadass says:
And the middle initial H stands for?
November 19th, 2009 at 6:44 pm
Herbert
November 19th, 2009 at 7:01 pmbraveheart08 says:
November 19th, 2009 at 6:53 pm
You need to change your moniker to “chickenhearted.”
November 19th, 2009 at 7:02 pmThese people are just sick. Our whole country is sick and stupid because it seems that from the top down, they figure this is the way we’re supposed to be from here on out. We can’t sustain our present course. And the previous thread is another reason why I won’t vote for Obama in 2012.
Btw, calling all hackers to destroy Cafepress.com.
November 19th, 2009 at 7:04 pmHow fringe is this? Surely very, very very. Right?
November 19th, 2009 at 7:10 pmIn my deepest, darkest hours of despair over the insane and warmongering actions of George W. Bush, I never, NEVER wished for his death. These are the actions of the most unChristian, most Talibanesque people I can imagine. These products seem to be tools of terrorism. I would hope they would be taken off the market, but I am sure people will invoke freedom of speech. Still, with freedom comes responsibility: you can’t yell “fire” in a crowded theater and expect not to be prosecuted … Eric Holder, are you listening?
November 19th, 2009 at 7:20 pmJesus says love the neighbor as the self, these people must really hate their selves I wonder what they feel when the look in a mirror.
November 19th, 2009 at 7:23 pmThe GOP brand of Christianity is just as hateful and dangerous as radical Islam… They weild the Bible as a sword of offense, and they have no love. You can tell the tree by it’s rotten fruit.
November 19th, 2009 at 7:34 pmWell, one good thing about these t-shirts. When we see one, we will know there’s a domestic terrorist in our midst! See?
November 19th, 2009 at 7:37 pmI just cancelled my subscription to Christianity.
November 19th, 2009 at 7:46 pmToo many people are laboring under the false impression that these types of people are “Christian”. They are not Christians. No matter how much they themselves my profess to be Christians, they simply are not.
Contrary to popular Republican or right leaning belief, just because you say it is so, does not make it so. To be a Christian, one must actually be a follower of Christ. It is one thing to say you are something, it is another to live each day as something. Every deed, every word both in private and public will define your faith.
These just are not Christian people. I don’t know who/what they are, but they are not Christian. Judging from their rhetoric and their actions, my guess would be that they have been deceived and are followers of the Prince of Lies.
November 19th, 2009 at 7:47 pmYes, and may everyone who wears the shirts and buys the bears suffer the same fate!
November 19th, 2009 at 7:48 pmIf there is a prince of lies, he is the one in charge of the Republican Party.
November 19th, 2009 at 7:55 pmI need to stock up on Obama, abortion, lesbian, and rainbow bumperstickers, and will slap them over these vile stickers.
Being in Idaho, I’m bound to come across a few of them.
November 19th, 2009 at 8:01 pmThe Old Testament is full of crap and for the looney tunes among us!
November 19th, 2009 at 8:02 pmbecause nothing says “traditional family values” better than a teddy bear with a death wish on it aimed at the president.
right cancervatives?
November 19th, 2009 at 8:05 pmHey Southern Man,
Bush didn”t need anyone to harm him he did just fine himself. Worst prez ever! That idiotic dunce had it over the amiable dunce (Ronnie!) and I didn’t think that would be possible.
November 19th, 2009 at 8:07 pmI cant take this sh!t anymore. Any repug or wingnut that says they are against Obamas policies is a freakin liar. All of the hatred coming from the right has nothing to do with policy. President Obama is a black man, and thats why we are seeing all of this hatred,lies, and made up bullsht. Then theres a$$holes like beck,hannity,limpo,orielly,savage, just to name a few. These motherfckers are dangerous. Beck knows exactlly what he is doing. I dont care what the right says,beck wants Obama assassinated. The repugs and their crazy assed followers always talk about their love of our country. BULLSHT! These idiots are doing so much damage to our country. It really is sad, but they are a sad bunch of pathetic little a$$holes. They dont even care about the damage they are creating. They want their country back, wich means we want the scary black man out of the whitehouse.
November 19th, 2009 at 8:11 pmIn the name of religion to be against President Obama, a president for health care, peace and the betterment of humanity is hypocrisy. You would think religious followers of this crap would be lessening in numbers.
People can not be this stupid and may be using this as a cover up for bigotry.
November 19th, 2009 at 8:25 pmProbably ought to get used to it, sscncturn64. If the idiocy starts to die down, the fcukwits you named will stir it up again.
I’m not saying we need to accept it, but that we need to learn to back these people into the corner with facts at every opportunity — especially in our everyday lives. We can never shake our heads and let the stoopit walk away — we have to say something even if they don’t like it.
November 19th, 2009 at 8:26 pmMembers of the Army of God will no doubt snap up this assassination-promoting souvenir.
Shortly after the 9/11 attacks and someone mailing lethal anthrax through the USPS in late 2001, a member of the Army of God, an escaped convict, mailed close to 500 terrorist letters (containing non-lethal powder) to family planning clinics throughout the American Midwest. He was recaptured. A year or two later, his federal trial venue was shifted to Philadelphia PA, where he was tried and convicted, and given more jail time. There was mainly local news coverage of this Army of God guy, with scant national news coverage, even as tens of thousands of right-wing copycat terrorist mailings occurred across the country.
Often religious fervor kills, or leads to terrorist mailings, so in my view, anything that tries to pump up religious fervor, especially in America, can only end badly.
November 19th, 2009 at 8:27 pmI have noticed Christian radio stations all appear to walk in lock step together by opposing Obama – a man who possesses more than most their supposed true values.
It has to be the money…. dirty money they collect from evil doers. So corrupt and filled with hypocrisy.
Churches need to pay taxes.
November 19th, 2009 at 8:36 pmHey, can’t the Obama 2008 campaign sue the producers for trademark violation?
November 19th, 2009 at 8:38 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
May the Almighty God give
George Bush and Dick Cheney
the ETERNITY that MURDERERS deserve….
Amen.
November 19th, 2009 at 8:46 pmHi Zooey, I agree with you on backing them into a corner with facts. The problem with that is the wingnuts dont care about facts. Im sure you and I have had conversations with the same kind of wingnuts. They just repeat the bullsht they heard the night before on fox noise. I usally just walk away shaking my head in disbelief at their stupidity.
November 19th, 2009 at 8:47 pmMay the Almighty God give
the SUPPORTERS of George Bush and Dick Cheney
the ETERNITY that SUPPORTERS of MURDERERS deserve….
Amen.
November 19th, 2009 at 8:48 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
The last time I saw Michelle Obama truly happy was during the inaugural parade. Have not seen the genuine smile since and suspect the attitude of the crazies weighs heavy in her heart.
November 19th, 2009 at 8:49 pmLiberalSlayer says:
Poor libs…did someone take your binky away?
REAL Americans KNOW that YOU are a SUPPORTER of the TREASON of bush and Cheney the MURDERERS.
God KNOWS it, scumbag…
You WILL get the ETERNITY you DESERVE.
BURN WELL with TRAITOR Ronnie!!!
November 19th, 2009 at 8:52 pmAlas, facts are of limited value with Reichwhiners. These are people who Believe it’s a “fact” that our Founding Fathers established a Christian theocracy. They Believe it’s a “fact” that Saddam had WMD and so on.
November 19th, 2009 at 8:53 pmhad enough says:
The last time I saw Michelle Obama truly happy was during the inaugural parade. Have not seen the genuine smile since and suspect the attitude of the crazies weighs heavy in her heart.
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I’m thinking you’re right. The rhetoric of the so called christians will just give licence to an unbalanced murderer in thier midst to do what he or she feels they are calling upon him to do. The moderate christians do not realize that by remaining silent, they are effectively condoning any murderous action by thier murderous bretheren.
November 19th, 2009 at 8:54 pmWell gee, stupid troll, it looks like it’s the stupidest 20% of the electorate that’s been squealing like stuck pigs since November last. Where’s your binky?
November 19th, 2009 at 8:57 pmLiberalSlayer @121
Maybe the SS needs to pay you a visit…. with your name and flippant attitude on this subject.
November 19th, 2009 at 8:57 pmhad enough,
Remember when Colin Powell was being advanced as a candidate? He as much as admitted that he turned down the honor because of fear for himself and his family. It’s especially telling because he knew that the threat was from those who, ostensibly, were on his own team.
November 19th, 2009 at 9:03 pmFail.
November 19th, 2009 at 9:03 pmCopyright infringement on the Obama logo?
http://www.barackobama.com/downloads/
text at the bottom reads:
By downloading the Obama for America (”OFA”) logo from this site, you agree that you will use the logo only for your personal, non-commercial use. You cannot market, promote, sell, or exchange anything that bears this logo. To avoid having to register with the FEC, you should limit your printed flyers, posters, or other materials for any event to 500 or fewer.
More Republican’t thievery.
November 19th, 2009 at 9:07 pmTTTC says:
No wonder you never leave the house….
November 19th, 2009 at 8:29 pm
Says the half-witted dork who’s always here.
November 19th, 2009 at 9:14 pmIs that liberal slayer, or liberals layer?
November 19th, 2009 at 9:25 pmDoes TTTC stand for The Tiny Testicled Creep?
November 19th, 2009 at 9:29 pmI am flagging all posts by LiberalSlayer for having a name that is an implied death threat to all liberals.
November 19th, 2009 at 9:33 pmMaybe his name implies the slang version of slay – meaning he makes liberals laugh really, really hard with his pathetic efforts.
November 19th, 2009 at 9:40 pmdbadass says:
And the middle initial H stands for?
According to Dr. Billy Sol Hargus, the H stands for Hebrew.
November 19th, 2009 at 9:49 pmGot a great deal on my plastic Jesus for the dashboard of my car. I was also able to get a $10.00 blessing for only $5.95.
Geez… more than just a passing hint of racism in THAT comment….
November 19th, 2009 at 10:21 pmOh… and as for the sick pseudo-Christian freaks and their ‘Pray For Obama’ hatefulness…
How embarrassing… I can only imagine Christ would be both disgusted and appalled at the grotesque idiocy they proclaim in his name…
November 19th, 2009 at 10:24 pmIs there any more question of the Christianist right’s proper place? Can it be any clearer that there is no difference between the hijacked Christianity of the right and the hijacked Islam of Al Queda?
These are the terrorists that are close at hand.
November 19th, 2009 at 10:38 pmPray for Palin, Ezekiel 23:20
November 19th, 2009 at 10:50 pmChristian fascism is on the horizon, it gets closer every day. They are condoning murder in the name of religion. They are waging a propaganda mission against muslims. Now they only need one of their own in the White House with the launch codes. Wake up America!
November 19th, 2009 at 11:07 pmMargene response: We initially pulled the Psalm 109:8 content from our products today because broader media dialog indicated that these designs potentially suggested violence towards the president. Based on current public discourse and further review of the actual content, we have determined that it is fair political commentary and we are in the process of reinstating this merchandise. As with all of our content, these designs will continue to be reviewed and if at any time their meaning is construed as advocating violence we will revisit our decision.
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Tell them to stop.
November 19th, 2009 at 11:30 pmOrganized Christianity has become the prodigal son; they wallow as swinehearders, dead to God’s words. These lost sons more resemble the foretold false prophets than followers of Jesus. The GOP and American Christian organizations have aligned themselves to the evils of distortions, lies, hate, fear and racism. Truth rings hollow in their ears. They worship human idols that spew the vile venom that their sullied hearts and souls yearn for. God will not judge them kindly for their blasphemy of his word. All Americans and American children in particular need to disavow themselves from these organizations; they are what you suspect. The Chrisitian churches are empty of any blessing or grace. They are not the temple where God dwells.
November 19th, 2009 at 11:38 pm“Organized Christianity has become the prodigal son”?
Someone’s never talked to Quakers, members of the Church of Christ or the Methodist Chuch.
granted no Church consists of purely the faithful but I’ve found most of these denominations contain mainly good people.
November 20th, 2009 at 12:16 amI had a cousin of mine post this as her Facebook status, along with a full quote of the verse. I replied that as much as I hated George W. Bush, I never wished him to die. I was besieged by her friends and other family members who castigated me for ever thinking dear cousin wished Obama to die. If I thought that, I was the ignorant one and I was welcome to our Muslim president if I wanted him.
November 20th, 2009 at 12:33 amDon’t overlook the fact that this extremist religious right is that of which SARAH PALIN is part of, and she will not denounce imprecatory prayer.
One only needs to look at the comments on her Facebook page and see the hatred and similar thoughts from her rabid followers.
November 20th, 2009 at 12:35 amosage says:
REPUBLICANS ARE AMERICA’S ENEMY WITHIN
Republicans ARE practicing seditious DEMAGOGUERY and anti-democracy OBSTRUCTIONISM intended to destabilize our economy for purposes of political exploitation.
Republicans AREN’T making a sincere effort to STOP the bleeding THEIR incompetent leadership and failed policies created. Instead, they’re using inflammatory lies and accusations as a smokescreen to conceal their subversive agenda, which is to cause President Obama and America to fail so they can blame Democrats for the consequences of THEIR calamitous mismanagement.
Republicans ARE preposterously professing that THEIR disgraceful political WHORING had nothing to do with the banking, real estate, stock market and employment catastrophes that resulted.
Republicans ARE trying to hamstring Democrats to prevent them from repairing the damage caused during a Republican presidency that was irresponsibly enabled by Republican Senators and Representatives.
Republicans ARE offering ridiculous arguments meant solely to disrupt and prevent progressive change. They’d rather divide America and create political gridlock than endure the political consequences of effective Democratic governance.
Republicans AREN’T the LOYAL OPPOSITION; they ARE the ENEMY WITHIN whose mercenary personal priorities have eroded their moral and ethical standards to the point that duplicity and betrayal are their preferred modus operandi.
It’s one thing to advocate their conservative beliefs; it’s another thing entirely to willfully sabotage America’s government because a successful Democratic presidency would not be vulnerable to the greed, fears and hatreds that have produced and sustained the radical Republican anti-government corporatism and anti-Christian faux theocracies that are poisoning and crippling American society
November 20th, 2009 at 12:35 amI don’t get this. It only quoted Psalm 109:8. Yet the article implies that Psalm 109:8-13 are included? I think it is wrong to put words in others mouths… just an opinion.
November 20th, 2009 at 12:41 amThis is just an attempt by my party at subliminal disgustingly racist comments but as a Republican, I completely disavow what has been said. God save our party from this sort of hate mongering. It is so UnGodly.
November 20th, 2009 at 12:48 am.
Dear Christians,
R E M E M B E R:
What ever you ask for from the Lord regarding your neighbor/enemy/friend…
… Be prepared to receive it in return, ten fold.
.
November 20th, 2009 at 12:53 amJame_112009 says:
I don’t get this. It only quoted Psalm 109:8. Yet the article implies that Psalm 109:8-13 are included? I think it is wrong to put words in others mouths… just an opinion.
November 20th, 2009 at 12:41 am
It implies no such thing, Jame. It’s called context.
November 20th, 2009 at 12:57 am#13 Southern Man 2,
You did not note the blaring differences…
… These people claim to be Patriots who wrap themselves in the American flag and wield their Religion as their weapon.
F A S C I S M!
http://atheism.about.com/od/religiousright/ig/Christian-Propaganda-Posters/Christian-Fascism-Fascist.htm
CHRISTIAN FASCISM!
http://www.counterpunch.org/leupp01132005.html
… O.K. so you support Fascists and go to bat for them.
.
November 20th, 2009 at 1:05 am.
Everyone…
… This is a re-tooling of, “I hope he fails!”
.
November 20th, 2009 at 1:06 am.
Chris Hedges: “AMERICAN FASCISTS” The Christian Right vs USA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Thn9Hnu__pU
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November 20th, 2009 at 1:07 am.
Nazi Fever
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3ogZiSN9iI
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November 20th, 2009 at 1:12 amZazzle took the shirts off the list. That other one did not. Calling for the overthrow of our government is treason. Calling for the assassination of our duly elected president is treason. When JFK was killed by Oswald, he wounded the soul of the nation. This cannot happen again in my lifetime. I get tired of hearing about Beck etc… on tv and liberal blogs. I don’t watch Beck, Hannity etc….I don’t watch FOX ever. I read mediamatters each day to keep current on the lies, but I get tired of watching Olbermann spend so much time on these nutcases. Rachel Maddow exposes the lies, like Jon Stewart, but they move on. We need to do the same. Help me find the good guys. I know about Zazzle now. Thanks!!
November 20th, 2009 at 1:12 ammari2RR,
From your comments I can see that you are a kind and thoughtful person. As such, though I hate to break it to you, the GOP is not your party anymore. And, until they loudly denounce their course, they never will be.
November 20th, 2009 at 1:16 amThis episode is just another example of (seriously wrong-headed) Christianist pick’n'choose exigesis; note that the originator starts with “verse” 8, not verse 1. The Psalm takes on an entirely different meaning if the quote starts at 1; it goes thusly:
O God of my praise, be silent no longer, for wicked men heap calumnies upon me.
They have lied to my face and ringed me round with words of hate.
They have attacked me without a cause and accused me though I have done nothing unseemly.
They have repaid me evil for good and hatred in return for my love.
They say, ‘Put up some rascal to denounce him, an accuser to stand at his right side.’
But when judgement is given, that rascal will be exposed and his follies accounted a sin.
May his days be few; may his (charge, office) fall to another!… (and so on and so forth)
Given THAT prologue to the t-shirt “message”, it seems to me that President Obama or someone else under attack by the arseholes of the right could quite appropriately speak those words. The curse which starts at verse 8 is most appropriately directed at the people on the right who are busily heaping lies and calumny on our head of state.
Playing pick’n'choose games with Scripture is not good form, trolls. Quoting that book, or any other, out of context, is usually a serious mistake; tends to not only not support an argument, but may even blow back on you.
November 20th, 2009 at 1:34 am.
Dear CafePress,
http://help.cafepress.com/hc/s-74058960/cmd/kbresource/kb-3070245727559813710/escalate!PAGETYPE?VisitorProfile=cafepress
Many items on page http://shop.cafepress.com/pray-for-obama
expressly advocate that President Obama’s days in Office be few. These citations of “PRAYER” for “POLITICAL PURPOSES” are contained within a litany of prayers designed to be for a leaders’ future failure, death and condemnations toward his family’s future without him, all done with great damnation as the running stream, consciously, throughout the prayer.
I DID NOT KNOW THAT IT IS A REPUTABLE BUSINESS PRACTICE TO MERCHANDISE LITERATURE AND COLLECTIBLES THAT INCITE VIOLENCE TOWARD THE PRESIDENT OF THE U.S.A.
I shall keep this in mind when deciding which on-line merchandise website I shall be doing my HOLIDAY SHOPPING through.
The ticket code for this inquiry is LTK41908602….
November 20th, 2009 at 1:36 amFurthermore, I nominate Sarah “Cariboob” Palin for Whore of Babylon.
November 20th, 2009 at 1:36 amThe Whore of Babylon you say?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4WCBFqggcO4
November 20th, 2009 at 1:57 amRacism has many faces this is one of many since Obama took office
And we wonder why religious dogma creates many atheists.
The bible is full of profound wisdom but also full of profound ignorance.
Few can tell which is which
Must stand between religion and materialism and scientism and atheism to begin to see the difference between the two.
It boggles my mind that smart people can buy into the ignorance of the bible but it also boggles my mind that materialists think we are here by chance and the entire universe was contained inside the size of the head of a needle.
Ignorance knows no boundaries.
November 20th, 2009 at 2:07 amIn reality, how many people are going to take the time to look up the verse in Psalms?
In today’s rush, the average viewer is only going to see “Pray for Obama”, and think, Yeah, good idea!
Now, back to my tweeting… or twittering… or twatever…
November 20th, 2009 at 5:14 amSorry, forgot the “h” in twhatever, I’m not used to being up so early…
November 20th, 2009 at 5:15 amYou can tell the Right think this is so brilliant. ;)
November 20th, 2009 at 6:59 amCan anyone imagine the reaction of the right if there had been “Pray for Bush – Psalm 109:8″ bumper stickers when he was President?
They would be crying foul, complaining about the context of the Psalm, and saying that it was over the top and in bad taste. And rightly so.
November 20th, 2009 at 7:37 amYep… trolling for assassins about covers it…
November 20th, 2009 at 8:57 amI prefer the verses that say that the violence you wish on someone else will come down on your own head. (will find it)
As a Christian, I am APPALLED.
November 20th, 2009 at 9:02 amThe American Taliban doctrine…… phase 1
November 20th, 2009 at 9:08 amHow nice, our own religious extremist wing comes out in the open.
Ooh ooh. Let me play. The next right-wing fun toy to sweep the internets and get all kinds of attention from normal people is…wait for it…Barack Obama voodoo dolls. Please please please please pleasepleaseplease….
November 20th, 2009 at 9:08 amPoster #13 said:
By all means, provide us with links showing us where liberal organizations trawled for assassins to kill Bush.
November 20th, 2009 at 9:20 amI think missmolly (@173) is being too charitable when she says, “They would be crying foul, complaining about the context of the Psalm, and saying that it was over the top and in bad taste. And rightly so.”
I think the reaction of the right to the analogous situation with former President Bush would have been to assert that those statements and bumperstickers were TREASONOUS, that they were offering ‘aid and comfort’ to ‘the enemy’ and that the whole Bill of Rights needed to be suspended in order to correct the ‘outrage’ committed against the nation as a whole and that the persons responsible should face summary execution without affording them the dignity of a trial.
November 20th, 2009 at 9:53 amLiberalSUCKINGcoward
Nothing you do here will ease the misery of your lonely life. No one likes you, no one respects you and no one ever will. You are stupid and patehtic. Your hatred for everyone smarter and better than you which is pretty much everyone in the world illicits only pity. Showing everyone you are the stupidest most pathetic loser on the internet serves no other purpose than to feed your pathetic need for attention. We get your parents never loved you and you CRAVE the attention but its your fault. No one could love such as stupid patehtic loser as you not even your own parents. You are lucky they didnt burry you in the backyard as soon as they saw the true nature of your souless dark persona. The left you in the busstation to make your living blowing crackwhores as an act of mercy. It was good training for the rest of your pathetic life. Just kill yourself now. No one will miss you anyone who knew you will cheer and the world will be a better place for you leaving it
November 20th, 2009 at 12:54 pmI went to Cafe Press’ website and they don’t have any Obama Psalm merchandise. I am very happy they’ve come to the4ir senses.
I think I’ll check and see if anyone else is selling this crap. A boycott sounds like it’s in order!
November 20th, 2009 at 4:19 pmI’ve done a google product search and it seems zazzle.com is the only one that’s selling this garbage. I just used their contact info to let them know how abhorrent I find the product and how I will be telling anyone I am in contact with not to shop with them because of it.
Freedom of speech works both ways.
November 20th, 2009 at 4:33 pmAnd just when you thought that the GOP couldn’t sink any lower….
November 20th, 2009 at 5:41 pmThose who imagine they are doing God’s work by displaying “Psalm 109:8″ bumper stickers and T-shirts would do well to read the psalm in its entirely before displaying their ignorance publicly. If they are not wholly blinded by their animosity, they will discover that the words “Let his days be few,” etc., are words spoken by “wicked and treacherous mouths,” those who “speak against me with lying tongues.”
And verses 20-31 might serve as a warning to them: “May the LORD bring all this upon my accusers, upon those who speak evil against me.” “Clothe my accusers with disgrace; make them wear shame like a mantle.” “Though they curse, may you bless; shame my foes, that your servant may rejoice.”
I can’t think of a more apt description of the anti-Obama crazy crowd than verse 3: “With hateful words they surround me, attacking me without cause.”
November 20th, 2009 at 6:28 pmFor those who wish to contact those responsible for this sedition, (or the Secret Service0, the T-shirt company that makes this seditious T is named Zazzle.com
More information about Zazzle:
Zazzle.com
1900 Seaport Blvd
4th Fl
Rewood City, CA 94063
US
Domain Name: ZAZZLE.COM
Administrative Contact, Technical Contact: Barbara Tam(?)
phone: 650-872-8000
Associated with crusaderpatriot
November 20th, 2009 at 9:25 pmMy, my, look at this! It’s a response to a heated email I sent them about this “product”…
Thank you for contacting CafePress.com!
This morning we made the decision to remove all Psalms 109:8 designs from CafePress.
The public debate started with questioning if the design was simply intended to be criticism of the President or something much worse. The discourse was surprisingly civil online, given the heated nature of the topic. Given that, and the positions of groups like the ACLU and the Anti-Defamation League, we decided to let the dialogue play out publicly before making a final decision.
Last night we posted a poll on our blog, read through the emails we’ve received and weighed the nature of the calls we’ve received on the topic. In the process we also learned that many of the original designers of the Psalm 109:8 designs had already decided to remove them on their own.
General consensus has proven that the design does point to a broader interpretation of the Psalm and thus has been deemed inappropriate for sale at CafePress.
We try to create an atmosphere of self-expression. Many of the things we encounter are not black and white, but grey. When the dialogue is civil, we want to let the larger community work things out rather than making an uninformed ruling. The dialogue has played out and common sentiment has reached agreement – this merchandise is not appropriate.
November 21st, 2009 at 9:17 amWhy should anyone be surprised by this latest burst of hate, from the whitened sepulchers that control today’s Republican Party. As always they have to resort to the Old Testament to inflame and exhibit their hate; because they can’t find the necessary venom in the Gospel teachings of the one they claim to follow.
November 21st, 2009 at 6:31 pm