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Chris Wallace selectively quotes CBO analysis to suggest Senate health bill increases costs.

This morning on Fox News Sunday, host Chris Wallace selectively quoted the Congressional Budget Office analysis of the merged Senate legislation to suggest that the Senate health legislation would increase government outlays on health care over 20 years and bend the cost-cure upward:

WALLACE: According to the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, federal outlays for health care would increase during the 2010-2019 period and the government-run health insurance plan would typically have premiums that were somewhat higher than the average premiums for the private plan. So here’s the question. The Democratic plan by the CBO’s own scoring fails to bend the famous health care cost curve at all over the course of these 10 years, and could you name a single Congress that has ever cut Medicare by half a trillion dollars as this legislation would?

Watch it:

Page 16 of the CBO report does predict that “federal outlays for health care would increase during the 2010-2019 period,” but the last paragraph of that same page adds that “during the decade following the 10-year budget window, the increases and decreases in the federal budgetary commitment to health care stemming for this legislation would roughly balance out, so that there would be no significant change in the commitment.” As Sen. Arlen Specter (D-PA) pointed out, the $848 billion bill would actually “save $130 billion in the first 10 years” and $650 billion in the next decade. Over on the Wonk Room, Igor Volsky debunks Wallace’s other claims about the bill failing to “bend the famous health care cost curve” and whether previous sessions of Congress ever cut Medicare.



302 Responses to “Chris Wallace selectively quotes CBO analysis to suggest Senate health bill increases costs.”

  1. Beethoven Rules says:

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  2. Jim Wolf359 says:

    The failed son of the great Mike Wallace opens his mouth and spews gaebage again.


  3. kasinca says:

    Beethoven Rules says:

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    Gee, and MSNBC, NBC, Kos, TP, etc. have never cherry picked news item before?
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    FAUX has never told the truth, Vernon.


  4. majii says:

    Well, now we know that Wallace did get a chance to read his daily GOP talking point email before the show.


  5. Jim Wolf359 says:

    garbage, not gaebage. Jeez…I gotta proofread before I post.


  6. StratRat says:

    Chris Wallace: Now we know why lions eat their young.


  7. dbadass says:

    A slobbery St Bernard is hardly a source for political discourse….. Still the it is okay if I declare an equality argument is so lacking in conviction….


  8. gully foyle says:

    Chris Wallace wouldn’t make a pimple on a real journalist’s a$$.

    He’s a failure and an embarrassment to his father–a true journalist.

    Which is why he can only get work on Fox.


  9. Fred says:

    No wonder they wanted to get rid of the fairness doctrine eh?


  10. StratRat says:

    It seems odd to me that Mike Wallace has a legacy of first class, accurate reporting – no matter who he targets, but his son Chris is the worst ‘talking head’ of all time.

    How does one absolutely ruin the family name within one generation? Oh, I forgot. George Bush did the very same thing.


  11. Fred says:

    Beethoven Rules says:
    Gee, and MSNBC, NBC, Kos, TP, etc. have never cherry picked news item before?

    planned lying is not cherry picking.

    Why would you defend the obvious distortion of a fact?

    Oh yeah…………


  12. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Beethoven Rules says:
    Gee, and MSNBC, NBC, Kos, TP, etc. have never cherry picked news item before?

    Perhaps your “argument” might carry a little more weight if, instead of simply posing a rhetorical question, you actually attempted to do some research and answer it, then presented your evidence as a means of undercutting the import of TP’s article.

    Of course, even if you got to that point, we’d still have to examine the implied equivalence and decide if there is a similar, consistent political bias. Tighty-righties constantly claim such an equivalence but I have never seen one actually provide compelling proof that it exists.

    And even if you got that second step accomplished, we’d still have to deal with the “two wrongs make a right” logical fallacy that lies at the heart of what is clearly a deeply flawed, even structurally unsound, argument.

    But thanks for trying.


  13. Chyron HR says:

    Beethoven Rules says:

    MSNBC, NBC, Kos and TP have never cherry picked news

    If you say so.

    What, are you going to start sobbing that I selectively quoted you, baby?


  14. pags2 says:

    Gee, and MSNBC, NBC, Kos, TP, etc. have never cherry picked news item before?

    They never used old TV footage and pictures to mislead the public about the size of a demonstration. Nor did their news commentators organize anti-government rallies or use a political party’s talking points when reporting news. They never posited news commentary as being the actual news.


  15. Dirty Hippie says:

    Beethoven went deaf, you know. Don’t worry, you can still get your lies closed caption.


  16. DallasNE says:

    About 6 weeks ago Murdoch apparently took Wallace out behind the woodshed because Wallace has been very dutiful to the Fox line every sense.


  17. evangenital says:

    It’s FoxNews, baby.

    It’s “lie” central at that joint.

    They lie, they fabricate, they dissemble, they misquote, they misidentify, they quote of context. they spin, they weave, they invent, they deny, they obfuscate.

    It’s FoxNews, baby.


  18. Bozo The Neoclown says:

    Beethoven Rules,
    a simple question for you,
    have any of the news outlets you’ve named been busted twice in a month using erroneous footage in an attept to magnify the “events” they’re reporting?


  19. dbadass says:

    They dig the attention….


  20. dasm says:

    Chris Wallace is a sad, dishonest man. His father would be ashamed of all Chris’ lying.


  21. Bozo The Neoclown says:

    senate hompeful carly fiorina was spewing the same mess on cnn to john king.
    one would think fiorina would be a little more compassionate towards fellow breast cancer survivors and support a public option. afterall, once you’ve had cancer it’s a “pre-existing condition” and your insurance company is well within it’s rights to dump your ass.

    then again, i am sure fiorina doesn’t have to worry about helathcare insurance with the 20 million “golden parachute” she got from HP after the board of directors voted to have her removed as CEO.


  22. AUDIT THE FED says:

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  23. Bozo The Neoclown says:

    seriously clown@22,
    you cite opinion pieces as facts? that shit may work over in freeperville but not here.


  24. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Does our new bombastic troll not realize that health care is rationed now?


  25. Bozo The Neoclown says:

    apparently not, ralph.
    just like our new bombastic troll probably doesn’t realise one of his “sources” is from a site based in india.
    why does our new troll hate america by citing a site based in india which is talking smack about america?


  26. dbadass says:

    Yeah, the same way the Dummocraps cherry pick and don’t tell the common man that the bill will ration our care but the cost we have to pay will not go down. The same way they don’t tell you that you will go to jail if you can’t afford it.


    Can you explain to me why if this was true these dummocraps you speak of would do this? What drives them? What is the movitator? Is this just a step in a bigger puzzle?


  27. AUDIT THE FED says:

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  28. Chyron HR says:

    Bill to Audit Federal Reserve Moves Forward

    Yes? So? Have you somehow decided that since you’re a psychotic halfwit who spends every waking moment soiling himself and shrieking “AUDAT DA FEDDDUHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!11!” that people with functioning brains must somehow opposed to government accountability?


  29. ncbrickhome says:

    The Pox PROPAGANDA channel.


  30. Fred says:

    AUDIT THE FED says:
    Yeah, the same way the Dummocraps cherry pick and don’t tell the common man that the bill will ration our care but the cost we have to pay will not go down. The same way they don’t tell you that you will go to jail if you can’t afford it.

    Sure, it’s democrats who lie about such things.

    Ask someone about their social security and get back with us.

    Remember how it was going to destroy America?

    A few republican quotes on Social Security from the 30’s:

    Rep. John Taber (R-NY), 4/19/35: Never in the history of the world has any measure been brought here so insidiously designed as to prevent business recovery, to enslave workers and to prevent any possibility of the employers providing work for the people.

    Rep. Daniel Reed (R-NY), 1935: The lash of the dictator will be felt and 25 million free American citizens will for the first time submit themselves to a fingerprint test.

    Rep. James W. Wadsworth (R-NY), 1935: This bill opens the door and invites the entrance into the political field of a power so vast, so powerful as to threaten the integrity of our institutions and to pull the pillars of the temple down upon the heads of our descendants.

    Same old song and dance.


  31. pete says:

    Stupid, dishonest, and rude. The trifecta of trolldom.


  32. Fred says:

    AUDIT THE FED says:

    Sure, it’s democrats who lie about such things.

    A few republican quotes on Clintons stimulus package:

    Rep. Robert Michel (R-IL), Los Angeles Times, 5/28/93:
    They will remember who let loose this deadly virus into our economic bloodstream.

    Rep. Newt Gingrich (R-GA), GOP Press Conference, House TV Gallery, 8/5/93: I believe this will lead to a recession next year. This is the Democrat machine’s recession, and each one of them will be held personally accountable.

    You do remember how that worked out, right?


  33. evangenital says:

    The holy roller repiggie trolls are arrogant in their stupidity.

    They cite chapter and verse of all the crap that is put into their little heads by the megachurch witch doctors and FoxNews charlatans.


  34. Fred says:

    AUDIT THE FED says:

    Now, about who is lying????

    Seriously dude, you need to wake up.

    Here’s a few republican quotes on Medicare in the 60’s:

    Rep. Tim Lee Carter (R-KY), 4/65: As one of the last country doctors… I ask my colleagues to vote to recommit… a bill which will within a few years cruelly overburden the Social Security System and the young workers with growing families, who will be forced to pay higher Social Security taxes.

    Rep. Durward Hall (R-MO), 4/8/65: …we cannot stand idly by now, as the Nation is urged to embark on an ill-conceived adventure in government medicine, the end of which no one can see, and from which the patient is certain to be the ultimate sufferer.

    Now, just in case you are too dense, I think everyone who thinks for themselves can see the corelation between the lies I just listed and the ones you are telling today.

    same old song and dance.


  35. Fred says:

    AUDIT THE FED

    Tell me again why I should listen to anything you have to say about, well, anything?


  36. AUDIT THE FED says:

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  37. Fred says:

    AUDIT THE FED says:

    conspiracy theories and apocalyptic rhetoric.

    Nothing more.


  38. Bozo The Neoclown says:

    is our newset shitstain troll audit the fed still here citing opinion pieces as if they were news articles?


  39. AUDIT THE FED says:

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  40. Fred says:

    audit, here’s some more bs that your side is fond of. It’s not true but that won’t stop you:

    1. There is no room for a Palestinian state, and Israel has a right to all this land. Plus more if they want it. This is the way to bring peace to the area.

    2. The death penalty is a great way to deter crime.

    3. Teenagers must not be given any factual information about sex, birth control, reproduction, or STDs. They should only be told to keep their legs crossed. This will bring down the teen pregnancy rate.

    4. The invisible hand of the free market will always keep the economy healthy.

    5. If we just quit helping the poor, they’ll all become rich.


  41. Bozo The Neoclown says:

    “America is in trouple financially, China is on our ass”

    and where were you trolly when the 43rd president was running his war of choice off the books and funded by the chinese? that’s right, buying your yellow, made in china “we support the troops” magnet at wal mart.


  42. flight says:

    AUDIT THE FED @ 27,
    This is a great thing, audit the Fed. I am still waiting the auditing of Halliburton, you know that little company that “used” to run by Dick Cheney.

    Oh, I forgot, they moved their offices off shore. How convenient for the old Dick.

    I am in favor of seeing how money flowed for Obama and Bush.
    Would you be in favor of putting it all on the table?


  43. Fred says:

    AUDIT THE FED says:
    Fred

    Two words:

    Glass Steagall

    Passed by newt and the republicans with a supermajority.

    It is a republican bill you ass.


  44. Hoodathunk says:

    Oh the shame and horror of it. That a government of the people, for the people and by the people should expect that some of their taxes should be spent on the people.

    What are we thinking? Those taxes need to go to fund wars and bailouts of rich people.


  45. Hoodathunk says:

    Actually, Fred, I believe that Glass Steagall was repealed.


  46. Fred says:

    audit:

    Some economists state that the 1999 legislation spearheaded by Gramm and signed into law by President Clinton — the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Act — was partly to blame for the 2007 subprime mortgage crisis and 2008 global economic crisis. The Act is most widely known for repealing portions of the Glass-Steagall Act, which had regulated the financial services industry. Gramm responded to criticism of the act by stating that he saw “no evidence whatsoever” that the sub-prime mortgage crisis was caused in any way “by allowing banks and securities companies and insurance companies to compete against each other.” The Act, it should be noted, passed the House by an overwhelming majority and passed by unanimous consent in the Senate, though it was introduced on the last day before Christmas holiday and never debated by either congressional body. Republican leaders shut out dissent to this bill.

    The bill that ultimately repealed the Act was introduced in the Senate by Phil Gramm (Republican of Texas) and in the House of Representatives by Jim Leach (R-Iowa) in 1999. The bills were passed by Republican majorities on party lines by a 54-44 vote in the Senate[12] and by a 343-86 vote in the House of Representatives[13]. After passing both the Senate and House the bill was moved to a conference committee to work out the differences between the Senate and House versions. The final bipartisan bill resolving the differences was passed in the Senate 90-8 (1 not voting) and in the House: 362-57 (15 not voting). Having majorities large enough to override any possible Presidential veto, the legislation was signed into law by President Bill Clinton on November 12, 1999.

    Your defenses seem inadequate audit. Try again.


  47. AUDIT THE FED says:

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  48. Fred says:

    AUDIT THE FED says:
    P.s. I’m not republican

    Yes you are. Bill signed it facing a supermajority override. So?

    It was still republicans that repealed parts of glass that caused our economic woes.

    You are so confused because you think it was a good thing and want to blame a democrat. Good luck.

    Next time you vist, try to have your ducks in a row. You seem disorganized and vulnerable this morning.


  49. ncbrickhome says:

    Clinton SIGNED the bill, for SURE.

    The RapePublic TRAITORS were the ones who PUSHED it.

    The SAME ones that did NOT want to give Clinton FUNDING to

    FIGHT TERRORISM.

    McConnell, Delay, etc.

    Same old TRAITORS against the USA and FOR the Saudi TERRORIST Financiers.


  50. flight says:

    AUDIT THE FED @ 36

    America is in trouple financially, China is on our ass and they want to CUT cost on the backs of poor people. They don’t tell you that these people just pass the cost to the consumer.

    ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

    Audit,
    This is a remarkable find. “The Chineese our on our ass”. I am interested; where you find this information. If you could provide me with the link I’d appreciate it.


  51. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Fred says:
    AUDIT THE FED says:

    conspiracy theories and apocalyptic rhetoric.

    Nothing more.

    And not even very coherent conspiracy theories and apocalyptic rhetoric.


  52. AUDIT THE FED says:

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  53. dbadass says:

    P.s. I’m not republican

    —-
    Independent small business owner?


  54. Bozo The Neoclown says:

    AUDIT THE FED says:
    “P.s. I’m not republican”

    so sayeth the republican when they’re in the 21% minority. that’s when they start calling themselves liberatarians. nudge-nudge-wink-wink


  55. ralph the wonder llama says:

    AUDIT THE FED says:

    P.s. I’m not republican

    Let me guess… you’re a “conservative with libertarian leanings”.

    How’d I do?


  56. pete says:

    It’s an interesting view of history. First there was Johnson, Then Carter, who is so obvious that he didn’t gain a mention. Then Bill Clinton took his crack at destroying America and now Obama is finishing the job. I find it amazing that the stupid trolls just seem to forget the 28 years under five different Republicans during the last 40 years. And, of course, they split between overlooking and disavowing Chimpy after the fact.


  57. Hoodathunk says:

    America is in trouple financially, China is on our ass and they want to CUT cost on the backs of poor people.

    And just who sold us out? Who financed two wars off the books to them?

    Three guesses, trolly and the first two don’t count.


  58. Fred says:

    AUDIT THE FED says:
    There were Dems who voted for the bill you ass lol…

    though it was introduced on the last day before Christmas holiday and never debated by either congressional body. Republican leaders shut out dissent to this bill.

    It was a republican bill.

    You say you are the party of personal responsibility, why won’t you take credit for what you did?

    As I have said before, you have lost this argument because you came unarmed. Go back to your handlers and ask how to handle this.


  59. AUDIT THE FED says:

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  60. Hoodathunk says:

    It is interesting that since 1980 the only time the economy took an up swing and we weren’t faced with some sort of recession was in the 90’s. Pure magic, I guess.


  61. Fred says:

    AUDIT THE FED says:
    I am a socialist lol. Your president is communist turned moderate republican lol

    Is that you rhf?


  62. flight says:

    AUDIT, I would like to read the source for your comment concerning the Chinese American debt. This is interesting.


  63. ralph the wonder llama says:

    AUDIT THE FED says:
    I am a socialist lol.

    No go. You’re just trying to discredit socialists by making them appear dumber than dirt.

    Won’t work.


  64. dbadass says:

    silicone stuffed muffins

    Sound awful. Let’s agree to lentil stuffed bell peppers , K?


  65. Hoodathunk says:

    I don’t know that feeding trolls lentils is a good idea. They are already to gaseous.


  66. dbadass says:

    Nancy Ross
    Only open this if you are not easily offended…
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdEKrzcUd9I


  67. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Hey, do you guys suppose our new troll thought she was taking on the name of Betsy Ross, and is just too stupid to even get that much right?


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  73. delafield says:

    If we completely eliminate insurance companies from America’s health care system, we could save over $450 billion every year. Why is Chris Wallace (R-Israel) against this?


  74. McWars says:

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  75. ralph the wonder llama says:

    I see our namejacking troll is taking advantage of the echo-ey room to play-act.

    It’s kinda cute.


  76. McWars says:

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  78. ncbrickhome says:

    Actually, TRAITOR-infested TEXAS is a GREAT model for Health Care Reform.

    25% Uninsured.

    No doubt, obese MORONS, like South Carolina, Georgia, Mississippi, etc.


  79. dbadass says:

    Now this whole name jacking thing is sort of interesting but it is not really my main focus. Still I am curious as to what motivates the name jacker. At what point do you decide that that jacket fits you? Do you snug it up yourself or do you get help from a more senior seasoned of the group?


  80. flight says:

    Audit,
    I am very interested in the change in Sino-American economic
    ties. The change you have alluded to, signals a pivotal change in global finances. I assume you know full well the implications of the statement you made and how important this information is. The readers at this sight would be very interested as I in knowing the source of this information.

    Please share you sources, this is extremely interesting and important.!


  81. dbadass says:

    I seized the perfect niche.

    There is no perfect niche. The human intestinal microflora offer evolution’s best attempt but still biotic and abiotic limiting factors restrict them…


  82. vileberals says:

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  83. dbadass says:

    i know this site. ive been here studying liberals for years.


    So you have a degree in the liberal arts?


  84. ncbrickhome says:

    RapePublics have BEEN “mad people” for MANY YEARS.

    Rush, Savage, Hannity, and Pox PROPAGANDA fueling their “anger”, and their TREASON.


  85. dbadass says:

    what have you done to increase my liberty?

    What have you done for my beauty? Maybe we should start by defining “liberty” first…


  86. vileberals says:

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  88. dbadass says:

    what do the liberals want to do next, put walmart out of business? liberals must not know that americans do have christmas shopping to do, american traditions to celebrate, unlike other anti-america countries they whore for.


    My American family just wishes we could still watch the migratory ducks at that place where the walmart now is….


  89. vileberals says:

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  91. dbadass says:

    you have a responsibility to explain to me why obama the socialist shouldnt be replaced with mike huckabee in 2012.

    Well is it because the population doesn’t give a rat’s ass by a forgotten bible thumper? Besides Sammy Hagar no longer wants to loan his faux animal pelt jacket to Mrs. Huckabee on those chilly campaign nights in New England…


  92. vileberals says:

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  93. dbadass says:

    i took business classes and enterprise courses ONLY.

    And where did mommy and dady’s money get you?


  94. vileberals says:

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  96. dbadass says:

    Business Enterprise?
    Dude I don’t need to rent a car….


  97. ncbrickhome says:

    vileberals says:

    what do the liberals want to do next, put walmart out of business? liberals must not know that americans do have christmas shopping to do, american traditions to celebrate, unlike other anti-america countries they whore for.

    INTRODUCING!!!!!!

    George W. Bush. OIL Whorebag to the Saudi crown and others.

    The ones who FINANCED 9/11.


  98. vileberals says:

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  99. dbadass says:

    Michael Huckabee is the preferred candidate for our nation’s military officers.

    -
    Ask ten enlisted folk who Huckabee is then get back to me…


  100. pete says:

    One would think that the stupid trolls would learn to ease up a bit when Mommy scores the good stuff. Perhaps it’s for the best that they dropped out of CC to annoy TPers? There’s no sense in distracting students ho have a chance with their meth-riddled twitching.


  101. dbadass says:

    i am finished.

    Yes. yes you are. But I will be back in 20 minutes if you wanna try and regroup and try again…


  102. ralph the wonder llama says:

    vileberals says:
    i’ll give you what you want this time.

    i know this site. ive been here studying liberals for years.

    what have you done to increase my liberty?

    Why is it our responsibility to increase YOUR liberty?


  103. vileberals says:

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  105. ralph the wonder llama says:

    vileberals says:
    the CBO is all wrong, led by a liberal apologist. for now on im calling all of you libshits.

    Uh-oh… we’re done for now. Our new friend is bringing out the big artillery… NAME-CALLING!

    RUN FOR YOUR LIVES!


  106. vileberals says:

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  108. ralph the wonder llama says:

    This is actually quite an entertaining parody troll, don’t you guys think?

    I get tired of parody trolls who cleave too closely to real wingnut talking points. Granted, their material is plenty absurd to start with, but if you’re gonna be a quality parody troll, you can just rest on the strength of your source material. You’ve got to give it a little twist.

    Our latest visitor is scoring big on that count, in my opinion.


  109. Doom Siren says:

    There’s a reason that Fox News Sunday with Chris Wallace is ranked consistently dead last in the ratings.

    Actually, there’s two reasons.

    First: Chris Wallace’s poor journalism skills.

    Second: Fox News being a consistent propaganda arm of the right wing republicans.


  110. vileberals says:

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  111. ralph the wonder llama says:

    I’m going to vote up vileliberals whenever his posts tickle me. So far, so good.


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  113. dixie blood says:

    vileberals says:

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    explain why the military shouldnt have a strong-willed republican back as its commander in chief.

    Because RePugniScums are war-mongering, dumb-a$$, c0ck-sucking, lying, boy-touching, war-profiterring, pansy-a$$, scared of their own shadow, mindless, money wasting, borrow and spend, useless pieces of freeze-dried cat shit!


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  116. Mathazar says:

    VILEBERALS

    Huckabee, The fool that helped free a violent rapest so he could rape and murder two more women ?

    The idiot that had all of the computer hard drives removed and
    crushed before leaving office ?

    The corrupt guv that removed all the improvements to the media
    room before he left forcing the new Governor to spend the emergency funds to fix it ?

    Yeah right.


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  118. Hoodathunk says:

    For the Borg imitation, maybe a 4, but otherwise its a snooze troll.


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  122. Hoodathunk says:

    Why is it that all these gloom and doom trolls sound like a cross between Ahnuld and a cheezy horror flic bad guy?


  123. dbadass says:

    knock yourself out with that marming shit. If you grow to the extent that you can try and move up in the heirarchy get back to me…


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  125. dbadass says:

    ralph and db pretend to be capable of taking me on. its funny.


    You realize that I am gonna save this jewell….


  126. dbadass says:

    So wannabe want to show you can best me?


  127. Hoodathunk says:

    I can just picture vileliberals standing on a street corner in a dirty white robe with a sign saying “The Mayan Day of Retribution is Coming”

    The fine print reads “The Buybuhl ran out of scary sh!t so we decided to go with the heathens.”


  128. Fred says:

    vileberals says:
    big adults

    are you 5 years old?


  129. vileberals says:

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  130. dbadass says:

    your too academic to take me on

    and the reverse of academic is what?


  131. Hoodathunk says:

    i get tired of liberals denying theres a natural course to humanity.

    Yeah, there is. The stupid naturally ends up in the toilet. Have a nice flush.


  132. vileberals says:

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  133. Fred says:

    vileberals says:
    btw, if a woman is over 18, there is no such thing as rape.

    You wish. Americans will put you in jail for it.


  134. dixie blood says:

    vileberals says:

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    i have showed you. your too academic to take me on.

    And we have a winner…dbadass kicks a$$ again!!


  135. sscncturn64 says:

    I wonder if these so called journalist on fox think about a career after fox. Just about everyone knows that fox is a repug propaganda machine. How could a respected news organization ever hire someone from fox and have them taken seriously? All of the “journalists” on fox have zero credibility, for the simple fact that they sold out their credibility and integrity to work for fox. They have no where else to go but down and they are already at the bottom of the barrel. I say good riddance to all of them.


  136. vileberals says:

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  137. dbadass says:

    Yo wannabee is fishmonger sufficiently working class for you?


  138. vileberals says:

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  139. Fred says:

    vileberals, you kicked your own ass.


  140. USCKitty says:

    vileberals says:
    btw, if a woman is over 18, there is no such thing as rape.

    vileberals says:
    and governor palin should have had those women pay double for their kits.

    Let me guess, you’re PRO-RAPE…not just a rape apologist…In that case, you are the vilest troll that we’ve ever had…


  141. Hoodathunk says:

    no, vl, it just isn’t fair that db and ralph get to have all the fun.

    Wow, in ten months President Obama ran up a trillion dollar debt. Oh wait, he just put GW’s war debt on the books where it belongs.

    vileliberal join Ug-Ug in remedial math.


  142. dbadass says:

    ralph and db pretend to be capable of taking me on

    So fu ckface, let’s do this thang….


  143. vileberals says:

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  144. dbadass says:

    So wannabe want to show you can best me?


    Maybe you missed this one. Maybe it is more likely that you lack the stuff…


  145. vileberals says:

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  146. dixie blood says:

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    dixieblood could use a boinking

    Take that little boy off your naked lap and give it a try noodle shorts…oh yeah , I forgot, you’re a RePugniScum rapist which is not a man at all.


  147. dbadass says:

    ll this weird antiwoman shit is not right. I think it might be time to frost the poser…


  148. vileberals says:

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  149. Hoodathunk says:

    What we have is your basic distraction troll. It is willing to take whatever stance it has been taught will cause the greatest reaction, and distraction. It takes talking points to the point of hyperbole while it sits back rubbing Cheetos into its navel when it gets the desired reaction.


  150. Doom Siren says:

    dbadass says:

    Agreed.


  151. dbadass says:

    wait a minute now, i said “rape” is not so over the age of 18, for unmarried women. protecting children is a key priority. they can’t make decisions for themselves.


    and I said….
    “So wannabe want to show you can best me?”

    I think it is pretty clear to the readers who dominates whom….


  152. vileberals says:

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  153. ralph the wonder llama says:

    vileberals says:
    ralph took off

    Nope, just earning a living.

    I’m back now. Wanna rap?


  154. dixie blood says:

    Trolls can’t hide the fact that Chris Wallace lies and Foxsuckers believe it.


  155. dbadass says:

    152:
    I think it important that the thinking folk always play through. The fact that I am saddled with juggling the lesser folk is just a burden I bare.
    best-


  156. Hoodathunk says:

    The tough talk about rape also indicates this troll is totally intimidated by women. It would be incapable of performing any act of violence against a female because it is incapable of approaching one without going belly down on the pavement and wetting itself.


  157. dbadass says:

    155
    Ralph is it really fair if we both stick around?


  158. vileberals says:

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  159. AUDIT THE FED says:

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  160. ralph the wonder llama says:

    vileberals says:
    the women over 18 these days who dress so revealing think they can have it both ways, be feminist AND arouse men.

    They can have it both ways. I happen to think that intelligence and independence are very sexy in a woman.


  161. vileberals says:

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  162. vileberals says:

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  163. ralph the wonder llama says:

    vileberals says:
    and women who dress provocatively have no business in college or in the workplace. they’re not fit for the morals of american society. they belong at home to fulfill urges of the working man.

    See? I told you guys.

    vileliberals is working the “taliban” angle of the right-wing mindset to make a point. Good stuff.

    It’s entertaining in the short term, but it very quickly leaves the performer nowhere to go.


  164. Hoodathunk says:

    and women who dress provocatively have no business in college or in the workplace. they’re not fit for the morals of american society. they belong at home to fulfill urges of the working man.

    This attitude is indicative of an individual who has poor impulse control and has difficulty making independent decisions. It also points to a strong delusional aspect because it thinks it works for a living.


  165. sscncturn64 says:

    Hey vile, do you have any idea how destructive and sad rape is for the victim, you piece of sht. It just so happens that my sister in law is here for dinner tonight. She is a victim of rape. I love her and respect her to much to show her your comments. She would flip out and than ask her husband to do his thing on the PC to find out where a piece of sht like you lives. She would want to warn your community about you. How the fck could you throw around rape like its nothing. I think you are a very unsympathetic and lonely loser. I wouldnt wish for one of your loved ones to be raped. Try to make yourself a better human being and dont throw rape around like its harmless. You have no fcking idea.


  166. dbadass says:

    vileberals:
    Do you have what it takes? Yes or No? Don’t dick around. If ya wanna prove yourself let’s do it. I think you will ignore me and shy away from the challenge and I think doing so will expose you as a fraud and an inferior thinker. Is that what you wish?


  167. vileberals says:

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  168. ralph the wonder llama says:

    vileberals says:
    women do need to cover up, no doubt about it.

    I see your point.

    Although, truth be told, I’m not intimidated by sexual women, and I’m in control of my own sexual urges, so I don’t feel the need to force them to hide their physical charms.


  169. Doom Siren says:

    From the way he talks, I’m thinking vileberals is actually a vile rapist. The way he phrases his descriptions leads me to believe he has little self control of his violent impulses regarding women, and is wanting laws protecting them taken off the books to somehow justify his criminal behavior. You can continue to converse with him if you wish, but I am going to flag him.


  170. dbadass says:

    ralph and db pretend to be capable of taking me on

    Failure to get back to me indicates you are at least a liar and more so a pussy pos that can be pwned endlessly by a mere fishmonger…


  171. vileberals says:

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  172. ralph the wonder llama says:

    vileberals says:
    when michael huckabee is elected

    V. L., have you met Daryll?

    I think you two would get along famously.


  173. Hoodathunk says:

    you go on with that hoodathunk. when michael huckabee is elected hes going to teach you some things about morals and the rest of you club goers in need of structure and discipline.

    Hmmm, more projectionism involving someone other than the individual making decisions to difficult for the individual. Obviously this troll is incapable of responding to any sort of need for personal responsibility and must, therefore, project it’s pathetic need for absolute guidance towards a quasi-religious father figure.


  174. vileberals says:

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  175. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Doom Siren says:
    From the way he talks, I’m thinking vileberals is actually a vile rapist.

    If he were for real, I might agree.

    As it is, I think he’s doing an admirable recreation of a vile rapist as an internet troll.


  176. Fred says:

    wait a minute now, i said “rape” is not so over the age of 18, for unmarried women. protecting children is a key priority. they can’t make decisions for themselves.

    If the child is female, what difference should it make to you?

    You wouldn’t let them make decisions anyway, child or adult.

    I think Ralph is right.

    Thanks for showing us how the religious right in America thinks, its just like the taliban.


  177. dbadass says:

    So here is the part where I begin to say whatever I wish about the wannabe as they are to shaken to figure out how to defend. F uckin’ pussy ass lame asses bore me….


  178. ralph the wonder llama says:

    dbadass, that is always my favorite part of the process…


  179. Doom Siren says:

    I hope you’re right ralph.


  180. dbadass says:

    ooops

    vileberals
    So when I bend over and pull my cheeks apart you are gonna use your tongue to tickle my as shole. Are we clear on this?


  181. angels81 says:

    I say just flag the SOB. Promoting rape on a site, even if it is a joke is not right.


  182. Hoodathunk says:

    vileliberals is, at best, a virtual rapist. The only thing in any danger is is his keyboard and monitor.


  183. dbadass says:

    ralph and db pretend to be capable of taking me on

    Yo faker… Pay more attention to the precum….


  184. vileberals says:

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  185. angels81 says:

    Vile is just another crack head who just got high. Like all crack heads, they start babbling away at a machine gun clip making no sense at all.


  186. vileberals says:

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  187. dbadass says:

    Well seems my work is done here. vileberals, I think it in your best interest to stick with thte little fish….


  188. vileberals says:

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  189. Fred says:

    vileberals, your pronouncements mean nothing.

    I can just as easily say that you are a child molester.

    It means just as much.


  190. angels81 says:

    vile… So what you got to day crack head? Why don’t you try and sue me? Give it your best shot crack head.


  191. vileberals says:

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  192. dbadass says:

    vileberals
    Why do you lack the balls to get back to me? See now I am just gonna f uck with you till you do. You look weak and inferior. Are you those things? I am making a total as swipe of you yet you protest not. Why is that? I think you are a fraud and that you came to TP for attention and not to advance a political agenda that you believe in your heart. I am usually correct. Am I correct now?


  193. ralph the wonder llama says:

    I wonder if our vile friend would feel the same way about rape if he were to be forcibly taken and ass-raped by a big bear of a gay biker? Or maybe a bull d*ke with a strap-on?

    I mean, as long as our vile friend is over 18 and unmarried, and no type of wound is inflicted in the process, sex should just be called sex, “a man’s pursuit of the satiable”, right, V. L.?


  194. dbadass says:

    vileberals is a pretender that is afraid of me….


  195. dixie blood says:

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    angels81 is absolutely slandering me.

    Pointing out that you promote rape is not slander.

    You, VileRapist, said,

    “btw, if a woman is over 18, there is no such thing as rape.”

    The words of a true rapist.


  196. vileberals says:

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  197. ralph the wonder llama says:

    I don’t think one can legally “slander” a random internet identity…


  198. delafield says:

    Trolls cannot survive unless you feed them.


  199. dbadass says:

    vileberals will not reply because to do so would be to acknowledge that they are being spanked by me. The easier defense mechanism is to pretend they suddenly had some pressing matter to attend to…


  200. Fred says:

    vileberals is a child molester


  201. vileberals says:

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  202. vileberals says:

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  203. dbadass says:

    ralph and db pretend to be capable of taking me on


    What sort of pos can’t own their own words. I suggest yet another name change. Don’t play outside your league…..


  204. dbadass says:

    vileberals says:

    fred is a slanderer. end of story.


    And what am I ….


  205. angels81 says:

    vile, Put the crack pipe down, and get help. Clear your head out and come and join the human race. You’d be surprised if you put the rock down, how much your rotten life would improve.


  206. vileberals says:

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  207. Fred says:

    vileberals, if you’re not a child molester, then prove it.


  208. vileberals says:

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  209. dbadass says:

    Anyone wanna bet that vileberals won’t engage?


  210. sscncturn64 says:

    Vile, I usually dont talk to trolls, but when I see a few people here questioning your comments on rape it pisses me off. If you or a loved one hasnt been affected by rape then you should just STFU. Do you think its ok to molest children too? Since you follow the repug party and their religous then im willing to bet you are too. I cant remember how many times ive read about a priest or some other religous figure being arrested for sexually abusing children. Then it seems like twice a year there is some repug apologizing for commiting adultrey or lying about hiking on the appalachian trail when hes really in another country getting laid. I never even heard of the term toe tapping in a mens room for gay sex until a repug got arrested for doing it. Anyway, my point is that you are a typical rightwingnut repug and you are in the minority where you belong. Now go rape yourself instead of destroying innocent peoples lives.


  211. Fred says:

    when one like vile comes along you can tell that they are pissed at us.

    That only means one thing. We are doing the right thing.


  212. dbadass says:

    vileberals
    ralph and db pretend to be capable of taking me on


    Would you agree that these are your word? Would you agreee that I am a stand up guy? I have an offer. Are you up to it?


  213. vileberals says:

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  214. USCKitty says:

    You know that women in burqas overseas are raped too…


  215. Fred says:

    sscncturn64, you make a mistake if you think we’re not outraged. You are just playing his game though.

    We have all flagged the pos on every post he has made.

    Don’t give the fool any respect by engaging him on a rational level. He won’t return the favor.


  216. vileberals says:

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  217. vileberals says:

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  218. dixie blood says:

    vileberals says:

    [...] read up on what it means to be an american.

    You go first moron.


  219. Jackie says:

    The GOP saw no problem spending Trillions of dollars over the pass 8 years without one Republican complaining or even speaking up. Congress gave Bush a blank check to spend what ever he wanted and he did. Now Afghanistan wants the same thing the US gave Iraq. Yes we gave free of charge 1 Trillion dollars to Iraq and now President Karzai wants the same thing. The Pentagon wants more money for corrupt Contractor and Israel wants money from the US to help with the attack on Iran. The GOP will again rush to DC when Wall Street and the Banks ask for more money. But helping American people isn’t high on the list of things to do.
    The GOP stalled the Unemployment Bill so long just to make sure the millions of Americans wouldn’t get checks before Thanksgiving and it worked. Yes as our Law Makers leave DC to go home for Thanksgiving dinner with their families the American people will have to do without. We’ve become a country of the have’s and have not’s and I don’t care as long as I have mine.


  220. dbadass says:

    ralph and db pretend to be capable of taking me on

    —-

    Yo what up with this? On the street the kids are sayin’ you won’t own up for your own trash talk…Damn ain’t that curb….


  221. vileberals says:

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  222. vileberals says:

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  223. vileberals says:

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  224. dbadass says:

    I want to hug Jimmy Carters nuts

    —-
    While I tighten the clamp upon yours it seems…..


  225. dbadass says:

    this is a free speech zone, right?


    Last I checked….


  226. vileberals says:

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  227. vileberals says:

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  228. dbadass says:

    I just want to curl up in Barack’s arms and sleep.

    —Is that a euphemism for checkmate?


  229. vileberals says:

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  230. vileberals says:

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  231. dbadass says:

    vileberals
    I am your father…


  232. Hoodathunk says:

    Its time for vileliberals to go indulge in self rape with Rosie Palm and her 5 sisters while viewing a series of pictures of Sarah.


  233. sscncturn64 says:

    Viles Im not slandering you. You came onto TP and made a remark about rape. Libs come to TP to have intelligent conversation about the days events in politics. Then there is allways a troll who chimes in on something that is way off topic. You brought up rape, I went a little off topic about priest being child molesters. Why are repugs such hypocrits.


  234. dixie blood says:

    Hoodathunk says:

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    Its time for vileliberals to go indulge in self rape with Rosie Palm and her 5 sisters while viewing a series of pictures of Sarah.

    I bet he dresses Rosie Palm and her sisters provocatively.


  235. Hoodathunk says:

    I bet he dresses Rosie Palm and her sisters provocatively.

    Probably a lot of slapping going on as well.


  236. Hoodathunk says:

    Just to piss off people like you would be enough of a reason for me.


  237. dbadass says:

    Then why pass it?

    Well I think it might be rooted in the idea that a great nation can work together for the betterment of that great nation


  238. Fred says:

    OSTL, don’t just read the part that suits you. Then next sentence?

    As Sen. Arlen Specter (D-PA) pointed out, the $848 billion bill would actually “save $130 billion in the first 10 years” and $650 billion in the next decade.


  239. Fred says:

    OSTL, not to mention addressing the inhuman way that insurance disallows premium payers.

    You either thinkg these things are worth fixing or you think we should do nothing and let people die. Your choice.


  240. WaltTheMan says:

    The United States gives Israel <a href="broader perspective“>$7 million in military aid each day.

    On a per capita basis, this is equivalent to $164 billion per year if American citizens were to receive similar assistance. This is equivalent to 200% of the cost of the medical insurance proposal de-filibustered in the Senate yesterday.

    Taking this further, the reason that Israel even has a conflict is the settlement process is allowed to continue even when it is illegal under international law. Boiling this all down, 9.6 million American workers have contributing all of their taxes to supporting the Israeli occupation of Palestine.



  241. Hoodathunk says:

    OSTL, did you and your ilk ever consider that somewhere along the line, with all of your nay saying, that the average American just might get the idea that if you clowns and all your hysteria are against something, they just might figure they will take it?

    Your track record for being right about anything does really suck.


  242. PursueTruth says:

    Medicare is $38 trillion unfunded, in today’s dollars, due today. 3% interest is more than a trillion EVERY YEAR. A sincere healthcare reform bill that reduces the cost only $130B in 10 years is an utter failure.

    Far from being a sincere bill, this bill has many symptoms of insincerity and is therefore even worse. To start, to contrive savings of $130B it collecting taxes immediately, but defers expenses for 4 years. It also incents states to not cap attorney malpractice fees or awards (House Bill p1432). The whole while with no one ever telling us how bad off we actually are. Unbelievable.

    Medicare’s $38T unfunded could be our death knell. If you don’t wake up, and demand better, you deserve what we get.


  243. dbadass says:

    you deserve what we get.


    I deserve a really good bj….


  244. dbadass says:

    I hope you all get one… Can we all try and please be better humanists?


  245. Hoodathunk says:

    Medicare is $38 trillion unfunded

    So cool. If every American needed major medical care right now, we couldn’t hit this number. Eight years, two wars = 1 trillion in debt. 300 million Americans, only about 15% on Medicare and 38 trillion?

    Why not just tell everyone that there is a black hole due to arrive next week and will gobble up the planet.


  246. Hoodathunk says:

    Pursuetruth, why is it that every other industrialized nation on the planet can afford universal health care for their citizens and be more competitive in the international market place yet the US will can’t? Is that what your American Exceptionalism means? Everyone else can do it except the US?


  247. Levi the Oracle says:

    vileberals = fundamentalist Christian = pro rape

    Never vote for Republicans for any political position at any level of government. We must purge our government of their evil.


  248. Hoodathunk says:

    America. Home of the Free and the Brave. We can tell folks around the world to come visit our country and experience America and its freedom. Of course, if you get sick or hurt, you better run for home because America believes the injured and sick are free game. Its a Darwinian thing.


  249. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Hoodathunk says:

    Why not just tell everyone that there is a black hole due to arrive next week and it will gobble up the planet.

    Patience, Hooda… patience…

    That’s his NEXT Talking Point™, er, Original Observation™


  250. conservative guy says:

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  251. P.D. says:

    Remember when Wallace interviewed Bill Clinton, and he had the BALLS to imply the Clinton was responsible for 911 or something, and good ole Bill threw it right back at him. I loved to Wallace sqiurm.


  252. ralph the wonder llama says:

    Fred says:
    OSTL, don’t just read the part that suits you. Then next sentence?

    As Sen. Arlen Specter (D-PA) pointed out, the $848 billion bill would actually “save $130 billion in the first 10 years” and $650 billion in the next decade.

    Olby Sucks Long Time = pwned


  253. ralph the wonder llama says:

    conservative guy, whenever you say something, it’s generally safe to say “it isn’t so”.


  254. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    conservative guy says:

    Government cost overruns. Say it isn’t so.

    Bush is out of office, dude. You can breath easier now.


  255. Levi the Oracle says:

    Fiscal conservatives won’t be voting Republican for a long time to come.


  256. T.H.E.Cat says:

    Re:x AUDITTHEFED @ 59:

    Yeah, riiiiiight; a NATIONAL Socialist.


  257. ncbrickhome says:

    vileberals says:

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    community colleges are for liberals.q

    Yup.

    ALL institutions of ANY kind of REAL learning (not Heritage, etc.)

    encourage THOUGHT.

    How could the FASCIST RapePublics NOT hate it?

    Which is why their “base” is the ELITE rich guys.

    And the MORONS who THINK they will be a rich guy like the abovementioned

    who actually DESPISE the lowlife, obese, STUPID MORONS.

    People in Europe, Iran, Iraq, Turkey, Japan, and the rest of the WORLD are gobbling up Mathematics, etc.

    And America has been DUPED by the ELITES into

    thinking that EDUCATION is BAD for America.

    The Dumbing Down of America.

    “MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!!”


  258. P.D. says:

    Wow. I am getting tired of the same troll argument. ‘Liberals’ are bad. Taxes are anti-American. Higher education is wrong. Tell me? What has George Bush and the Repugs done in the last 8 years that was commendable? NOTHING.


  259. Shayne says:

    vileberals says:

    women who bare it all increase the rate of adultery, divorces and devious sexual acts. changing the law permitting their flaunting will force them to cover up.

    THE CHRISTIAN TALIBAN HAS SPOKEN. NOW STFU.


  260. Xisithrus says:

    To the subject of Hitlers use of ‘nationalism’ this was uber ‘patriotism’ Its odd the trollops ignore the fact that this ultra patriotism helped bring Hitler into power.


  261. Xisithrus says:

    Its what Beck is basically doing. “Our country is being destroyed we must save it thru love of our country!!”

    It turned out Adolph was power hungry and used the manipulation of language to empower himself and ultimately destroy what he professed to love.


  262. Xisithrus says:

    women who bare it all increase the rate of adultery, divorces and devious sexual acts. changing the law permitting their flaunting will force them to cover up.

    I think your just another parody and, in a way, you just described Carrie Prejean.


  263. Xisithrus says:

    divorces and devious sexual acts

    Sounds like Newt, Did his wife bare it all?


  264. flight says:

    Audit @ 161,

    You original arguement
    America is in trouple financially, China is on our ass and they want to CUT cost on the backs of poor people. They don’t tell you that these people just pass the cost to the consumer.

    WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

    I went to the site you posted @ 161. Yes, the article does discuss Sino-American economics. The tensions discussed have been at the core of our relationship with China for many years, and there is no indication of any major changes in the foreseeable future.
    I don’t believe you are offering any profound insight concerning our fiscal problems, just citing a problem is of no consequence to your argument.

    You present the final premise the “China wants to cut costs on the backs of poor people”.
    I saw nothing in the article that remotely supports your premise as stated. Secondly, it would be a major policy infringement if the Chinese began to instruct the Americans on governance and fiscal policy.

    Clear your thinking man, you are dealing with the real world. Stick to facts and don’t state conjecture as fact.


  265. Xisithrus says:

    Now, you all of the sudden trust the word of a “neocon repugniscum” like spector?

    No, Reagan said deficits dont matter. Specter is obviously not a Reganite.


  266. Levi the Oracle says:

    No Republican can be trusted. We must remove them all.


  267. Xisithrus says:

    women who bare it all increase the rate of adultery, divorces and devious sexual acts.

    Limbaugh said we have a babe on the ticket and has been divorced, what three?,times.

    So, I take it that Sarah Palin should wear a burka in order for you to vote for her?


  268. Xisithrus says:

    {sarah dons burka, covers it up]

    Vileliberals shouts: Islamofascist!!


  269. Xisithrus says:

    [Sarah removes burka]

    Vileliberals shouts: Vile Liberal!!


  270. flight says:

    Xisithrus,
    You forgot the most fundemental reason women bare all, MONEY. How could any free enterpriser be against earning and honest buck.


  271. Xisithrus says:

    [Sarah strips butt naked goes barefoot in kitchen]

    Vileliberals shouts: We got a conservative babe! Now cook me some dinner beyotch then get into bed and service me!


  272. Xisithrus says:

    Xisithrus,
    You forgot the most fundemental reason women bare all, MONEY. How could any free enterpriser be against earning and honest buck.

    And not only that but sex sells products.


  273. Xisithrus says:

    And isnt using sex to sell a product ‘free market’?


  274. Xisithrus says:

    Limbaugh: Babes are destroying our country, we have one on the ticket and if we elect her she will make women cover it up, go without makeup, no hotty librarian hairdos, no women in office cause women should be at home taking care of the kids and ready to please her husband when he demands sex!

    Its the free market liberals that let Palin look like a babe!

    We must stop the babe by electing the babe!


  275. OutstandingInMyField says:

    Late to the party, and apparently after this vile guy has consumed a lot more than his share of the pharmaceuticals, but I just wanted to stop by and thank Fred for the history lesson he gave AUDIT earlier. I was unaware of most of those quotes, the GOP has always been the rich folks party of no mouthpiece.


  276. flight says:

    How could any true Republican be against using sex to sell a product. Sell your soul, just earn that almighty buck. Hell, I think the only god the conservatives’ worship is the one made out of gold.


  277. flight says:

    Xisithrus,
    If we get rid of all the good looking babes in public, what will FOX News look like. Fat old white guys don’t cut it!


  278. P.D. says:

    flight@283, Didn’t Newt bestow an award for just that? I remember an Adult Film company won one and gave it to Rachel Maddow.


  279. Xisithrus says:

    changing the law permitting their flaunting will force them to cover up. -Vileliberals

    Secretly Vileliberal wants to be a Talibani so he can wander the streets looking for women to beat with a stick.


  280. Xisithrus says:

    I wouldn’t know, we conservatives don’t believe in paying for it the way you liberals do!

    Well, the huge number of prostitutes at GOP conventions make your statement null and void.

    And lets not forget Jeffy Gannon. Talon journalist and gay hooker.


  281. OutstandingInMyField says:

    Why don’t the cons have any hot guys? Is it the IQ thing? I think Al Gore is so hot!


  282. flight says:

    OSTL @284,
    As of late you conservatives have been paying a very high price for it. Sanford may be impeached. And they closed “C” street I hear, too many love nests at that address.

    OSTL, nobody has an exclusive on this one, conservative or liberal. You are kidding yourself if think otherwise.


  283. Xisithrus says:

    I wouldn’t know, we conservatives don’t believe in paying for it the way you liberals do!

    Well, I am a moderate, first off, and secondly there is this:
    Republican aide Alan David Berlin was arrested on charges that he wanted to engage in sex acts with a 15-year-old boy while dressed in a panda costume.

    Did he pay for it? Im guessing that, by your previous remark, no.


  284. Xisithrus says:

    If we get rid of all the good looking babes in public, what will FOX News look like.

    Phyllis Schlafly


  285. P.D. says:

    flight@290, Yeah. The love nest that attracted SO much attention has closed down. Funny.. If the Dems had such a thing, the MSM would be all over it. But Repugs? No. It must really stick in the C-Street’s craw That their ‘Christian’ club has been taken away. Hypocrisy, no?


  286. flight says:

    OutstandingInMyField @ 289,
    You have to be kidding me. The ladies have Beck, O’Reilly and Limbaugh. The list could go on and on. Don’t sell the Republicans short.


  287. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    OSTL says: says:

    I wouldn’t know, we conservatives don’t believe in paying for it the way you liberals do!

    Surely, surely, surely… you DO jest


  288. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Of course, when you do talk about ‘not knowing’ about matters sexual…

    You prolly are telling the truth… ;-)


  289. OutstandingInMyField says:

    flight says:
    OutstandingInMyField @ 289,
    You have to be kidding me. The ladies have Beck, O’Reilly and Limbaugh.

    I guess I asked for that, but eeewwww…


  290. flight says:

    Xisithrus @292,

    I am treading on thin ice, but the picture dictionary company refused to use Phyllis Schlafly’s picture to illustrate the phrase “ugly republican women”.


  291. flight says:

    OutstandingInMyField @ 297,
    I just couldn’t help myself!


  292. AaronQ of Maine says:

    If the U.S. market was free. the FDA wouldn’t exist. Nor would the FCC and many others. Without rules America would turn into mexico(ruled by mafia) only worse. The Neo-cons have good with the rhetoric but fairly bad with the thinking through.


  293. Mr. Sonia Herecomestheangst says:

    Chris Wallace should be in the NBA. With his cherry picking skills, he’d score at least 8 points a game.

    Then again, he’d have to interact with a lot of black people. So 1.2 points a game with the dominant factor factored in.


  294. just the bleepn facts says:

    johnny do1lar says:
    I love Keith Olbermann so much I made over 5000 posts on OW in about 9 months under at least 100 different names. I was finally banned which is why I post here 24/7 under many different names, too. Call me a loser, I know….

    That’s so stupid jeffy bovine! You post that much of a “tribute” to Olbermann ever week! D8*chebag much bovine? LOL! ;)


  295. just the bleepn facts says:

    OSTL says: says:
    I wouldn’t know, we conservatives don’t believe in paying for it the way you liberals do!

    Conservatives don’t believe in paying for anything – because you’re cheap, selfish, stupid little “boys” that live in “neverland” and never want to grow up. Go see a therapist you piece of sh!t child!


  296. Game of Life says:

    Crazy becky is out to destroy the US values, our Constitution, the dems and President Obama.

    teabaggers will try to move in on dates that mean something for US citizens, for example, the teabaggers stole Boston Tea Party event, the 9/12 shebang is a beer party for the kkk and insanely becky latched on to the horror of the Tower disasters, now this interloper nuts want to clash with the MKL celebration.

    I hope this “Old and Crazy” tour fizzles out.
    becky didn’t show for his fake 9/12 beer bash, the cad.

    becky has a plan to clash with the peaceful MKL anniversary.

    He and his followers are insane if they think are going to trample on MLK (peace-maker) day.

    Don’t start no shit faux and there will be no shit.
    You will not win.


  297. Game of Life says:

    OT –

    OMFG, over at Yglesias they posted a thread about the teabagger fake ass documentary about the teabagger “movement.”
    I can believe some of the comments. They have the nerve to compare the teabagger trash with Micheal Moore theater documentary. UN-FCUKING-BELIEVABLE


  298. Perry logan says:

    They may not be able to run a government for spit, but conservatives are excellent cherrypickers. In fact, that’s just about all they do.

    What is a right-wing think tank other than a bunch of people who are hired to cook the stats, to make failed policies look good?

    There are pro-gun websites that do nothing but crank out stats proving that guns are as nurturing as mother’s milk. Apparently, if we just had a few more guns, we’d all live forever. Through diligent cherrypicking, a delusional paradigm is sustained (though it’s also necessary to pull stuff out of your butt now and then).


  299. 00mpp00 says:

    Hardly shocking that Wallace and Fox use a trick that has been part of the GOP playbook on anti-healthcare efforts this entire debate.

    http://www.political-buzz.com/


  300. thelonegunman says:

    faux news and the asshat known as chris wallace selectively using quotes / reports in order to bend the story to their agenda… this is news how? they’ve been doing that for years…


  301. eebeeno says:

    Wow, thats pretty messed up dude no matter how you look at it.

    RT
    Online Privacy when it Counts



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