Fox’s Fuzzy Math: 193 Percent Of The Public Support Palin, Huckabee, And Romney
Fox’s Fuzzy Math: 193 Percent Of The Public Support Palin, Huckabee, And Romney
Reporting on the latest Fox News/Opinion Dynamics poll last night on Fox News’ local Chicago affiliate, anchor Byron Harlan employed some funny math in asserting that Sarah Palin is leading the pack for the GOP nomination in 2012:
HARLAN: It looks as if the rogue route is helping Sarah Palin. Her book tour has meant new support. A new Opinion Dynamics poll for 2012 shows her on top when it comes to landing the nomination. Palin is at 70 percent, about a third higher than this past July. Mike Huckabee stands at 63 percent. Mitt Romney’s 60.
Those figures add up to 193 percent. An accompanying graphic tried to squeeze the numbers into one pie chart:
In fact, the poll Harlan referred to did not ask Republican respondents to pick their favorite candidate. The numbers he cited merely represent favorable ratings among Republicans surveyed for each individual. Watch Harlan’s report:
(HT: Twitter user Kevinthepang)
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Is he fired yet?
November 23rd, 2009 at 5:48 pmhahaha…so who’s loosing their job today?
November 23rd, 2009 at 5:49 pmwas that taken before or after Palin left her supports out in the rain? with them yelling quitter
November 23rd, 2009 at 5:50 pmRUC@1, LOL! I guess they forgot THAT pledge already! Wow. In just a couple of hours no less!
November 23rd, 2009 at 5:50 pmMore hahahah:
The Poll that was cited lists Oprah with higher approval ratings:
Pdf Source:
White wingers are really amazingly stoooooopid….
November 23rd, 2009 at 5:52 pmMath is for elitists!
November 23rd, 2009 at 5:53 pmUt OH..Somebody just might(or not)get a spanking..
So when a repug says that 80% of Americans are against health care reform they realy mean 20%.
I see how this works now.
November 23rd, 2009 at 5:55 pmGotta love a pie chart! I’d like to eat two thirds of the pie, then give you the other half!! BWAHAHAHAHHA~~~
November 23rd, 2009 at 5:56 pmSee? This is absolute proof that public support for the conservative cause is overwhelming.
/sarc off
November 23rd, 2009 at 5:56 pmJust when you think we’re dealing with savants or evil geniuses we get something like this to bring us down to earth.
The Bushies are just stupid.
Low grade morons by today’s standards.
Now i understand why they don’t believe in evolution. what they’re saying is that they are not prepared nor willing to evolve to achieve a more perfect union!
November 23rd, 2009 at 5:57 pmWhy don’t they just say:
100% back Palin
100% back Huckabee
100% back Romney
Folks that’s 300% of Americans…
November 23rd, 2009 at 5:58 pmWhy that’s 900 million American voters…
We can honestly say the Republican party is favored by nearly a BILLION Americans!!!
Time for the first enforcement of FoxSnooze’s “zero tolerance” policy! lol
Those buffoons are hilarious. I think Little Stevie Doocy put that chart together. He’ll be along tomorrow morning to ’splain in to Little Gretchie Carlson on Faux & Friends, I’m sure.
November 23rd, 2009 at 5:59 pmMust I say that wingers are not very smart and Fixed Noose is winger television. They are just not very smart about anything.
November 23rd, 2009 at 5:59 pmDo Republicans have brains that are different than the normal human brain, or is the stupidity specific to POX Theatre?
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:00 pmI think that FAUX gets their statisticians from Liberty “University”. Same as their “science” advisers.
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:01 pmROFLMAO!!
Math is a tool of Satan!
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:02 pmMath is socialism!
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:18 pmIt’s that same kind of counting that had them estimating hundreds of thousands, if not millions, at Beck-A-Palooza and the Bachmann Hundred Teabagger rally too…
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:18 pmWebster’s Collegiate, if you please…
Harlan starts his piece with: “It looks as if the rogue route is helping Sarah Palin.”
Can someone please look up all definitions of “rogue” and then tell me why anyone with a shred of sense would pick this word to describe yourself?
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:21 pmThat’s too funny.
Explains the state of the Economy under the GOP, no?
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:29 pmWhen you start making mistakes like this you gotta simmer down.
Hey! POX! what’s your problem! chill out why don’t you. everything will work out all right in the end.
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:35 pmFox Chicago typically is tolerable. Frankly, I like Byron Harlon in general.
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:37 pmIf that’s not a pie, but a sphere chart then it could wurk? right?
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:38 pmHey! POX! Are you a TV show or what? Whatever you think you are, i think you are out of control. The signs are there.
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:40 pmAs I recall 100% voted for Saddam.
Huh.
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:40 pmDayum. If Saddam was president of America, he would have gotten almost twice the votes!! [By FFM]
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:41 pmDoesn’t matter – Faux Snooze viewers not only do not think well, they can’t add either.
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:45 pmThe Republican’t Party seems to be rapidly turning into a parts: a beauty pageant for attractive women like Sarah and an ugly pageant for men, such as Rush, Glenn and the other tagalong GOOPers.
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:51 pmWell, if right-wingers don’t believe in science, then math isn’t too far behind.
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:51 pmHeh, this must be five level percent chess
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:51 pmLooking forward to hearing who was fired.
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:55 pmGeez,
November 23rd, 2009 at 6:58 pmDidn’t Fox say that heads would roll when they display false information?
Who’s losing a job over this?
How does a sentient person make 193% of a whole?
So when health insurance premiums go up 193% every couple of years it does’nt sound so bad.
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:01 pmHARLAN: It looks as if the rogue route is helping Sarah Palin. Her book tour has meant new support.
That’s according to Harlan reading his own dingle-berries like they were all the data-points of the national census?
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:02 pm29 WillWrite4Food says:
Well, if right-wingers don’t believe in science, then math isn’t too far behind
They don’t believe in facts either, but they will use falsehoods if it helps their cause.
Hmm…
Republicans
Don’t belive in facts
Don’t belive in science
and now
Don’t belive in math
Now i understand, finally!
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:03 pmI guess double checking your math is for commies now. Just when I think Fox “News” couldn’t get any stupider, they surprise me.
This is just more proof that these days the GOP is just playing a game of “who can kick conceptual reality in the nuts the hardest.”
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:04 pmAnd why are all the contenders’ first-names “Back”? Why isn’t one of them at least called “Trig”?
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:05 pmThis must be “Chicago-style” TV.
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:06 pmWell you see Sarah being a maverick bucked Mr Maverick [McCain] and was rebuked for being a rogue but now Sarah has seen the light [money in this case] and now is a maverick/ rogue and like McCain will flop flop [fibb] for the [campaign] duckies.
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:06 pmThat means Barack Obama running for reelection would get 107% of the vote. 30% from Palin, 37% from Huckabee and 40% from Romney.
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:09 pmfletc3her says:
Looking forward to hearing who was fired
Hah! you mean promoted don’t you, like a good Bushie.
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:12 pmBush didn’t like facts and figures either.
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:13 pmCheney doesn’t recall.
Since Thanksgiving is in a few days – I would LOVE to know his secret for getting 193% out of a single pie.
What a dolt!
“Teh stupid” for the re=Thugs goes WAY beyond the tea party crowd.
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:14 pm*
Hah hah. This is not the first time it has happened:
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:15 pmhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NPr5IPRhiZ4
No surprise Fox people can’t count. Some might just believe that make you never know.
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:15 pmCheck out this video of the Palin clueless and factless. This is a must see!
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:16 pmThis may be a difficult idea for some people to grasp. The numbers mean nothing in most of the broadcasting area for Fox in Chicago. Republicans are endangered species except for some outlying areas. The city is solid Dem and most of the suburban area is Dem. Fox in Chicago is pretty low key about national political coverage.
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:19 pmThey are using the same math to count their crowds.
HAHAHAHAHA
Now they want to screw up math.
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:25 pmdraftedin68 says:
Can someone please look up all definitions of “rogue” and then tell me why anyone with a shred of sense would pick this word to describe yourself?
I did just that a few months ago and had a big laugh!
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:28 pmMr. Evil says:
Check out this video of the Palin clueless and factless. This is a must see!
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November 23rd, 2009 at 7:29 pmOh my god! Education has to be the next reform, or this country really will go down.
Who says there aren’t jobs for kids who don’t study math and science?
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:46 pmHey, Republicans were good enough at math to add up the biblical davidian lineage and date the earth at 6,000 years old… so why couldn’t the Republican Entertainment Network get this right?
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:51 pm193%, huh?
No wonder they think they’re in the majority…
*eyes rolling*
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:55 pmGreat video Mr Evil..It goes to show how uninformed the voting public realy is. Sad that some hang their hat on Fox News to make up their minds for them.
November 23rd, 2009 at 7:58 pmNew England Indy says: #54
George Carlin used to have this character he did called Biff Barf of Biff Barf’s Sportlight Spotlight. Biff began his show by saying, “Good evening sports fans. Welcome to Biff Barf’s Sportlight Spotlight. I call ‘em the way I see ‘em. And if I don’t see ‘em, I make ‘em up!
Just what FOX News does.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:18 pmI’ll second that “great video”. And, while it’s distressing just how ignorant some people are, there’s a bit of hope as well. One could make an argument that those of us who actually bother to learn anything about the Bible Spices of the world are not likely to support them.
Much like Crazy Shelly’s (InsaneR-Mn.) fans here in Minnesota they simply don’t know what she stands for. They simply absorb the propaganda.
Case in point: No one with the slightest bit of credibility, from either side, is still calling Bible Spice “smart”. Only those who are ignorant of her, willfully or otherwise, still use that word.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:19 pmMr. Evil says:
Check out this video of the Palin clueless and factless. This is a must see!
Oh. My. God.
Here’s a solution – send out a reporter and a sniper armed with tranquilizer darts. Everyone that expresses support of Failin’ Palin gets a dart in the neck, and they all get shipped out of country – Guyana sounds like a good place.
It would raise the IQ of the entire country 50 points, at least.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:20 pmFritz says: #57
Hey, they could resurrect Devil’s Island for these knuckle draggers.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:24 pmThere was a time in my life that I did’nt vote..I had not kept up with the issues at that time in my life.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:26 pmI felt that to exercise my right to vote without knowing the issues was anti American.
How silly would that be to the teabaggers?
Fritz,
I understand the sentiment but drugged deportations sounds a bit draconian to me. Plus, I think it might be a crime against humanity to knowingly force the worst dregs of society on another nation that may have lots of nice people.
On the other hand, I would be delighted if it were legal to shoot idiots in the ear with a paintball, or a snowball, when they are engaged in stirring things up despite a complete ignorance of the issue at hand.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:28 pmFolks, have a heart.
We know that Faux never learned to do math. Just look at their crowd counts. It is in poor form to laugh at the disadvantaged1.
OTOH – wonder how this is gonna jive with the new zero tolerance policy at Faux ?
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:28 pm“Fox’s Fuzzy Math: 193 Percent Of The Public Support Palin, Huckabee, And Romney”
Fux News + Fux journalists = Gumby University
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:36 pmThe proves that at Fox political orientation is what they value not competence.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:36 pmMapleStreet says:
OTOH – wonder how this is gonna jive with the new zero tolerance policy at Faux ?
That would depend on who they put in charge of counting to zero and what arbitrary value, greater than zero, they impose on the “zero” in question.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:41 pmFox & the Repubs show once again they have no clue whatsoever about anything based in reality. What morons. Just think– no one– I mean NO ONE– even noticed the error in that lovely pie chart. Idiots.
November 23rd, 2009 at 8:48 pm“You’re fired!”!!!!!!!!!!!!!
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:07 pmmaybe tomorrow they will use a bar graph to illustrate the relative percentages of who self identifies as liberal, conservative, and independent
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:17 pmdang.. everyone took my answer. (firing him)
Well, folks – only republicans would think that it’s possible to get 193% of the pie.
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:19 pmFrom the memo they passed about firing -
To share a key quote from today’s meeting: “It is more important to get it right, than it is to get it on.”
…. looks like that’s going great so far.
who’s issuing the apology?
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:24 pmCan you just imagine FOX’s retraction? We presented a pie chart that totaled more than 100%, and that is impossible. We at FOX News have a zero tolerance for misleading graphics, so we “MAY” do something to someone, but this is serious.
November 23rd, 2009 at 9:45 pmMr. Evil,
I hate you.
Why did you make me watch that? The stupidity is melting my brain!!!!! It hurts so bad…. I want to cry.
Please, make it stop. :(
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:00 pmI guess the FCC allows anybody to say anything on “the public airways”. What happens now that Murdock’s outfit has violated their own policy? Double secret probation??
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:17 pmAs Dubbya would say:
“You have to maximate the addification.”
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:19 pmOSTL,
This is how you basterds cheated us in NY-23!
Please, elaborate.
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:28 pm2+2+2 = Well, whatever FauxNoise wants it to be!
A prime example of a No-Child-Left-Behind education!!
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:32 pmByron Harlan was a maroon when he was at Fox Chicago.
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:42 pmWayne A. Schneider,
I’m, almost, leaning towards the conclusion that the stupid troll made a joke at his own expense. Since it was probably unintentional I can only give him half a point but, he deserves a tiny bit of credit.
November 23rd, 2009 at 10:47 pmSometimes these people are so stupid in public that it actually hurts to watch them make a fool out of themselves on an on-going basis…
THEN, they get to the pundit programs and it goes in the crapper from there…Good thing Google will finally take them out…
November 23rd, 2009 at 11:15 pmSince when did the total for a pie chart exceed 100%?
Fuchs Noose is not a news network! They can’t even convert poll percentages to fit into a pie chart.
I taught my 9th graders to do this in social studies classes, and these guys have college degrees?!
November 24th, 2009 at 12:03 ammajii says:
I taught my 9th graders to do this in social studies classes, and these guys have college degrees?!
I don’t know about What’shisname but many of the on-air “experts” at FAUX lack degrees. Who knows about the off-air “talent”? I vacillate between thinking they are evil and/or stupid. But, my guess is that their transcripts reflect more indoctrination than a classical education.
November 24th, 2009 at 12:21 am.
O.K. seriously…
… These hucksters rail against Sesame Street yet they continually fail their A.B.C.’s and 1.2.3’s.
I just don’t get it.
IF THEY WERE AN UPSTART 24 hour NEWS NETWORK ATTEMPTING TO BREAK INTO THE 24 hour CABLE NEWS BUSINESS…
… THEY WOULD BE LAUGHED OFF THE AIR.
.
November 24th, 2009 at 12:44 am#46 Mr. Evil,
GREAT FIND!!!
May I repeat…
… GREAT FIND!!!
Q: What would you like to see Sarah do?
A: Clean up the spending. Stop the spending…
Q: What is some of the spending YOU’D like to see cut?
A: All of it!All of it!
Does this mean that she thinks the Troops should go unfunded?
Is this “SUPPORTING” them THAT way?
.
November 24th, 2009 at 1:28 amWhile we’re all enjoying a slice of this overabundant pie (personally, I think it’s evidence of Karl Rove’s infamous “THE Math” from 2006 gone insidiously viral), anyone else notice the polling organization cited?
“Opinion Dynamics,” right?
Check the screen grab carefully to earn extra points.
@bobwurst: “sphere chart?” Brilliant. Almost fell off my chair laughing.
November 24th, 2009 at 2:57 amYou know, I think that this poll was meant something like “Would you support Sarah Palin for President?” “Would you support Mike Huckabee for President” and so on, and not “Who would you support for President: Sarah Palin OR Mike Huckabee OR Mitt Romney?” When you think of it like that, this “pie chart” (which is divided into clean thirds, offhand) makes much more sense.
That said, a pie chart insinuates that the poll was “Which one of these three would you support as a Presidential candidate”. Way to go Faux. Next time, use a bar graph.
November 24th, 2009 at 6:28 amStarstorm at #85, if Fox News had used a bar graph they wouldn’t have succeeded in duping their worshipers. See? It’s all in the propaganda and how you use it! Fox News is very good at it.
November 24th, 2009 at 7:42 amwow.
no olby sucks to laugh at us for a drop in obama’s numbers?
i’m stunned.
wait.
no i’m not.
sumer mario came out for the wii this week.
he must be busy.
:)
November 24th, 2009 at 8:50 amWhy, because the right wingnut didn’t get 193% of the vote? They must not use Diebold voting machines in NY-23.
November 24th, 2009 at 9:23 amHaving a pie chart’s elements add up to 100% presupposes that the choices were mutually exclusive. It’s possible that the surveyed people were given the option to select more than one potential candidate.
November 24th, 2009 at 1:27 pmFox and the Republicans; they just don’t add up.
November 24th, 2009 at 2:18 pmgg
November 25th, 2009 at 3:23 pmdfdgfd
November 25th, 2009 at 3:27 pm