Glenn Beck-Inspired Tea Party Candidates Step Up To Oust Veteran GOP Lawmakers
Glenn Beck-Inspired Tea Party Candidates Step Up To Oust Veteran GOP Lawmakers
Eric Forcade, a tea party candidate challenging Rep. Bill Young (R-FL)
Beck’s 9/12 project and its closely related “tea parties” have inspired a number of other challengers to Republican lawmakers deemed insufficiently “pure”:
– Phil Troyer, an attorney and former staffer to Republican Sens. Dan Coats (R-IN) and Richard Lugar (R-IN), is challenged incumbent Rep. Mark Souder (R-IN). An avid tea party supporter, Troyer has attacked Souder as a “big spending liberal.” Rachel Grubb, who is involved with Beck’s 9/12 project, is also challenging Souder.
– Matt Sakalosky, a businessman who is a member of Beck’s 9/12 project, is challenging Rep. Lee Terry (R-NE).
– Earlier this year, Rep. Bob Inglis (R-SC) had the audacity to criticize Beck. Beck has marshaled his supporters into a crowded primary to take out Inglis. One of the challengers, college professor Christina Jeffrey, directly cites Inglis’ criticism of Beck as part of the reason she is running.
– Liz Lauber, a former aide to tea party leader and corporate lobbyist Dick Armey, is challenging Rep. Todd Akin (R-MO).
– Rep. Ginny Brown-Waite (R-FL) is being challenged by Jason Sager, who said he is running because of Brown-Waite’s support for moderate Republican Dede Scozzafava, the opponent of Beck mentee Doug Hoffman.
– Even NRCC Chairman Rep. Pete Sessions (R-TX), charged with recruiting Republicans to challenge House Democrats in 2010, is facing a contested primary. Conservative activist David Smith says he will rely on the tea party movement to bring down Sessions.
The effort to oust imperfect conservative Republicans is buoyed by an internal Republican National Committee struggle to create an ideological litmus test for judging candidates. Elsewhere in the Beck-inspired movement, conservative activists are eagerly sending rubber chickens to Senators who voted for cloture to begin debate on health reform.
-- Self-proclaimed "RINO Hunter" Joe Petronis is challenging Rep. Michael McCaul (R-TX).
-- Real estate broker Chris Riggs, who counts Glenn Beck as his favorite TV show, is challenging Rep. Ken Calvert (R-CA).
-- Conservative activist Clayton Thibodeau is challenging Rep. Mary Bono Mack (R-CA) in the GOP primary. Thibodeau's website notes he supports Glenn Beck's "9/12 Patriots" and Glenn Beck's "56 Re-Founders."
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That is the best I have ever seen Zippy the Pinhead look…
December 2nd, 2009 at 6:39 pmLOL! Let the Games begin!
December 2nd, 2009 at 6:41 pmFantastic! I wish them well and hope they wage a very aggressive campaign for ideological purity. I’m hoping we have a Christian party too with Huckleberry at the helm! Conservatives, you’ve got to like all those choices, right?
December 2nd, 2009 at 6:42 pmNY-23, redux, again and again! Thank you, Crying Beck.
December 2nd, 2009 at 6:44 pmRepubelickers, see what you started? The crazies are coming to get you. You got them started and now you are the main course.
Pass the popcorn, please.
December 2nd, 2009 at 6:44 pmI don’t think the teabagger movement is bad for Democrats or progressives — they are the extremist wing of the party, theirs is the oversimplified view of politics; they are the product of George W. Bush, the intelligence-challenged, the low-information, the reactionaries, the ones who think they can exist independent from other people or government.
December 2nd, 2009 at 6:44 pmLet them break up the GOP into two parts – they have 30% now and they will have two parties of 15% each later.
Let’s see how far they get with that.
The circular firing squad is switching to full auto-fire, eyes closed while they just hose themselves down. This would be funny if it weren’t so pathetic.
December 2nd, 2009 at 6:46 pmThis is great. I’m almost sorry I left Florida. If they can unseat C. W. “Bill” Young voters should be required to take a drug test.
December 2nd, 2009 at 6:46 pmOn a personal level, I’d drink a toast to Sessions’ defeat.
December 2nd, 2009 at 6:47 pmI see the baggers as borderline cerebrally challenged individuals that will run the roust if they can, because they don’t know better.
December 2nd, 2009 at 6:49 pm“If they can unseat C. W. “Bill” Young voters should be required to take a drug test”
(If they’re not on drugs, they’re not allowed to vote?)
December 2nd, 2009 at 6:49 pmYou nailed it, dbadass…
One could juice a lot of oranges with a dome like that.
December 2nd, 2009 at 6:49 pmso vote down baby, how does it feel to be under my rather large thumb?
December 2nd, 2009 at 6:51 pmSame goes for the beckers. They don’t know how incompetent they really are, as is the way of things. Who does?
December 2nd, 2009 at 6:51 pmdamn you folks are fast. I can’t even get a vote down baby comment in before you have erased all evidences of my little impotent friend….
December 2nd, 2009 at 6:52 pmBeck’s head keeps getting bigger and bigger everytime one of these teabaggers steps up to challenge an establishment republican/conservative and credits Beck for his/her decision.
I want them to continue taking Glenn’s advice.
Let the games begin!
December 2nd, 2009 at 6:53 pmgo 4 it, wackos,
“tear that party down”!!!
December 2nd, 2009 at 6:53 pmThey vote down, and I vote up. Every time.
December 2nd, 2009 at 6:54 pmnoseeum says
Comon’ guys – i know intellegent [possibly] liberal rock guitarists that look no different than this guy – it’s the things in his head that are all messed up.
December 2nd, 2009 at 6:54 pmApe-Man
December 2nd, 2009 at 6:55 pm—
The dude from Midnight Oil comes to mind. The first time I saw them left a real impression….
Let’s settle in to watch the Loony-Tune parade with Glenn Beck as Grand Marshall.
December 2nd, 2009 at 6:57 pm*
All this makes you wonder if the Anti-Mason Party is fielding a candidate in ‘10.
December 2nd, 2009 at 6:59 pmGary Herstein @ #7 …
No – you’re wrong -it’s VERY funny.
December 2nd, 2009 at 7:00 pm*
No matter how you feel about it, please vote in the next election. I am sorry that so many democrats feel disillusioned, but no matter how bad any might feel now, they would feel much worse if these “pure” repugs won.
December 2nd, 2009 at 7:00 pmI concur, Ape-Man, point taken.
Peter Garret, dbadass, now Minister of the Environment of Australia, and has been in that post for sometime.
How about a little cone?
December 2nd, 2009 at 7:00 pmMr. Forcade,
Perhaps you haven’t heard what Glenn Beck said. “If you take what I say as gospel, you’re an idiot.” You were inspired to run for office by the rantings of a lunatic. You, sir, are an idiot.
December 2nd, 2009 at 7:01 pmThese idiots think Beck has “values”?? Beck has called his own followers “idiots”. Beck is totally devoid of any values. He’s a money-grubbing, hate-mongering buffoon. And a liar, above all.
December 2nd, 2009 at 7:04 pmShouldn’t this guy be running for the nomination of the Know Nothing Party?
December 2nd, 2009 at 7:05 pmRepug ‘purity’ . . . doesn’t this sound a lot like another radical party’s push for the same thing? If my memory serves me right, that one ended up with dozens of real ‘death camps’ for those deemed impure or who disagreed with them. Even the rhetoric sounds similar. Lots of words said with no facts or truth behind them.
December 2nd, 2009 at 7:09 pmNo, it’s still funny.
December 2nd, 2009 at 7:10 pmWell, he’s a modern Republican, so… yes.
December 2nd, 2009 at 7:11 pmdbadass says:
Ape-Man
—
The dude from Midnight Oil comes to mind. The first time I saw them left a real impression….
I concur. When I first saw him I immediately thought of Janis Joplin. Like they neeeeed to get the song out, or they’ll die.
December 2nd, 2009 at 7:13 pmWaltB says:
Repug ‘purity’
Will they have to wear a ‘purity ring’ to prove they past the test?
December 2nd, 2009 at 7:14 pm________________________________________________________
Yeah, but that just means it is also really, REALLY pathetic as well …
December 2nd, 2009 at 7:21 pmSay wha? The Teabaggers are teabagging the knuckle draggers? Too funny!
December 2nd, 2009 at 7:24 pmGary, no argument there.
December 2nd, 2009 at 7:24 pmCan anyone articulate exactly what Beck’s values are? Try to list them… you come up with nothing but inane-to-insane jumbles of negative implications, nutty versions of history, etc. How could anyone but a real mess be “inspired” by this psychotic mass?
December 2nd, 2009 at 7:25 pmWait until you see where they have to wear it …
December 2nd, 2009 at 7:25 pmfinally,
the liberal majority in America
will be able to fully express itself.
thanks, dubbie & glenn, for destroying the gop.
December 2nd, 2009 at 7:25 pmGary Herstein says:
Will they have to wear a ‘purity ring’ to prove they past the test?
Wait until you see where they have to wear it …
AAAAAH Delete image. Delete image. Damn you Gary.
December 2nd, 2009 at 7:27 pmThis is going to be fun.
“Get out there, teabaggers! If the KKKonservanazis you have in office now can’t pass the muster of the ronnie raygun conservanazi litmus test, I say vote ‘em out.
Man, the future of the Democratic Party sure looks good from here. ;-)
December 2nd, 2009 at 7:28 pmto think the camp that was once led by real thinkser with real ideas,
is reduced to being personified by an incoherent carnival barker and his rube camp followers.
hilarious.
richly deserved.
poetically just.
December 2nd, 2009 at 7:29 pmApprently OlbySucks got so tired of being ignored that he decided to say something so self-evidently stupid that it could not be ignored.
Congrats, Mr. Sucks. You have earned attention.
December 2nd, 2009 at 7:31 pmHi VoteDownBaby.
December 2nd, 2009 at 7:34 pmdoes anyone think they’ll try to charter an official political party?
what will they call it?
i hope the results in NY23 don’t dampen their enthusiasm.
a permenantly marginalized gop is the best possible outcome for the country.
December 2nd, 2009 at 7:34 pmSeriously. Mark Souder is liberal?
The guy who advocating spraying drug crops in foreign countries with a highly mutagenic herbicide, who voted for mandated random drug testing of federal employees, who supports a constitutional amendment for school prayer, who voted against supporting democracy in Pakistan…
is a liberal.
Who knew?
December 2nd, 2009 at 7:37 pmrighties are trapped in a spiral of shame and self-deception that has reached inescapable velocity,
like a fly treading water in a flushed toilet, their destiny becomes more inevitable with each cycle.
December 2nd, 2009 at 7:41 pmOh — there’s that sound again… a tiny voice like a cartoon character squeaking, “SQUIRREL!” over and over again…
No wonder his mom soundproofed the basement.
December 2nd, 2009 at 7:42 pmAnd ain’t it entertaining!
December 2nd, 2009 at 7:43 pmRight, because engaging in measured philosophical critique has always shown itself to be such an effective approach with these animals.
Please do not waste my time (I’ll not presume to speak for anyone else here) with such puling and whining.
These people have had DECADES during which time they could have elevated their discourse to some minimal level of cognitive content, and displayed even the littlest, little engagement with logic, principles, evidence and facts. They have instead repeatedly elected to degrade themselves in particular and eviscerate the very possibility of reasoned discourse in general.
And now you choose to step up with your high-minded hand-wringing and boo-hooing because some of us agree to do the only thing left to do with such willfully vicious hypocrites: Mock them in their own self-imposed willful and vicious hypocricy.
I am entirely unimpressed.
December 2nd, 2009 at 7:43 pmand the pied piper of pusillanimous punditry shall lead them…
December 2nd, 2009 at 7:46 pmGary, I don’t recognize your handle, so I’m assuming you’re rather new here. Welcome.
With that in mind, let me introduce you to our current troll, OlbySucks. He’s apparently the source of all those whiny, high-pitched cries of “SQUIRREL” that escape from under his blankie when he takes his thumb out of his mouth long enough to breathe.
There’s nothing high-minded about this one; he’s pure, diversionary troll, infantile variety. he used to be amusing but his gags have gotten so old that it’s like watching Pat Boone on a rerun of Peter Marshall-era Hollywood Squares.
You’ll soon tire of his anics as the rest of us have.
But it’s good to welcome you to the community, if you are new. You seem to already be in the swing of things with several good comments to your credit.
December 2nd, 2009 at 7:49 pmtoo many people have forfeited their privilege to participate through childish petulance,
pols, posters here, pundits – now disqualified due to their absolute refusal to negotiate in good faith.
now they can enjoy being ignored.
too bad for them, but we don’t have time to wait for them to sort out their jumble of wrongheaded ideas and have an epiphany,
history demands that we act – not stand around waiting for juvenile contrarians.
December 2nd, 2009 at 7:54 pmOSTL:
December 2nd, 2009 at 7:55 pmWhat is your deal?
i’d wager glenn’s campaign will be exactly as successful as rush’s “operation chaos” was.
December 2nd, 2009 at 7:57 pmSo, Jeffy Bovine,
Are you running for any kind of position at the barn?
December 2nd, 2009 at 7:58 pmAs long as Glenda and OSarah bin Palin endorses teabaggers, the Democrats will continue to trounce the anti-Americans.
December 2nd, 2009 at 7:59 pmOSTL =
Mark E Koldys 1936 Brookfield St Canton, MI 48188-1817
December 2nd, 2009 at 7:59 pmThank you, though I’m not sure I qualify as “new,” just someone who rarely posts. FWIW, there are/were rhetorical as well as logical purposes behind my #57: I can compose an effective paragraph as well as throw out a #39.
Meanwhile, keep on rockin’, dude!
December 2nd, 2009 at 8:00 pmThe Wolverine Party?
(though i imagine marvel comics would object (and prevail))
December 2nd, 2009 at 8:02 pmOSTL:
December 2nd, 2009 at 8:03 pmI have a few hours with little to do. Mind if I make an ass of you?
maybe glenn could get charlie daniels to run for senate in TN.
that’d show’em.
December 2nd, 2009 at 8:07 pmWhat are you going to do with the other hour and fifty-eight minutes?
December 2nd, 2009 at 8:07 pmThe Republicans think they are going to win a lot of seats in 2010. My bet is that they will lose more seats to Dems who will solidify their control of Congress. Obama will have a lot more wiggle room to do things. On the other side, Beck, Limbaugh and Palin will all be distant memories by 2012 because of the election losses.
December 2nd, 2009 at 8:08 pmWhen I first saw that picture I hadn’t finished reading the headline. I was shocked thinking it was Jeff Gannon.
December 2nd, 2009 at 8:08 pmGary, it’s good to get your contributions. I hope to read more of them.
December 2nd, 2009 at 8:09 pmI would be astounded if that came to pass. I would predict rather that their popularity will soar as they spew endless conspiracy theories to their drooling and vacuous fans, who will feed on any notion that might offer the pretense of absolving them of their own culpability and unreason.
December 2nd, 2009 at 8:16 pmFolks, a little help here.
I want to compile a list of pop corn growers, producers, and retailers.
Sht, what am I saying. Pop corn…
I should be contacting some indie directors and producers to chronicle the gNOpig race to the cliff… maybe even a video game… bumper stickers… plush toys… a toy pig that cries when you rub its nose…
December 2nd, 2009 at 8:19 pmjjm says:
Can anyone articulate exactly what Beck’s values are? Try to list them… you come up with nothing but inane-to-insane jumbles of negative implications, nutty versions of history, etc. How could anyone but a real mess be “inspired” by this psychotic mass?
Does incoherence count as a value?
December 2nd, 2009 at 8:19 pmGary I will concede to you that it is completely pathetic. I’m just laughing too hard to focus on that right now.
Personally – I CAN’T wait. This will be entertainment of epic proportions – I’m giddy as a child in anticipation of xmas morning. I just can’t wait to see what’s under the tree.
December 2nd, 2009 at 8:20 pm*
75 – “The Sims: Righty Megafail Edition”?
December 2nd, 2009 at 8:20 pmGary Herstein
December 2nd, 2009 at 8:21 pmMy first love has always been animal behavior but philosophy always tried to Shanghai me. I look forward to having the chance to review your curriculum vitae and written works.
johnny dol1ar says:
It’s NOT???
December 2nd, 2009 at 8:24 pm*
OT… and worse, personal… (don’t get yer hopes up…)
…
message for zooey -
i sent an email to the last address i had, @yahoo, from ‘08…
if you can, and are able, please send a reply…
or maybe you still have MY address…?
i need a bit of a favor…
hope to hear from you… thanks!
December 2nd, 2009 at 8:26 pmkaty
December 2nd, 2009 at 8:27 pmI assume you left word at theZoo
Party on, Tea dudes.
December 2nd, 2009 at 8:28 pmOT
i’m betting i’ll see a Daily Show graphic tonight, apropos of the President’s speech last night and the j.j. surrounding it, featuring the the Mel Gibson movie poster image and the title “AfPakalypto”.
if not, i’d like the show to contact me re: employment.
December 2nd, 2009 at 8:28 pmOSTL
December 2nd, 2009 at 8:28 pmAre you proWar?
OSTL:
December 2nd, 2009 at 8:29 pmDo you know what I think?
OSTL:
December 2nd, 2009 at 8:32 pmI think you are insincere….
The OSTLhole just spews nonsense.
Ignore it.
December 2nd, 2009 at 8:32 pmOSTL:
December 2nd, 2009 at 8:33 pmI think you lack a value system rooted in heart felt principle….
The OSTLhole just spews nonsense.
Ignore it.
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December 2nd, 2009 at 8:35 pmF uck that. I will grind this piece of shit into the ground and they will do nothing. gummitch recently asked why I do what I do…. This is it! OSTL will change names because OSTL can not handle it.
OSTL just says shit for attention. OSTL believes not the shit they spew…
December 2nd, 2009 at 8:36 pmThe enemy has to rofl at that tool and making bombs to be ready for the very day he TOLD THEM we would be pulling out.
December 2nd, 2009 at 8:38 pm—
Wanna tell us of your expertise in the area of war planning? You are such a pos loser that you are afraid of me. .. Pitiful it is
A lot of us think that it is pathetic that the “morality” voters chose to believe a couple of liars who told whoppers to get the U.S. to invade Iraq.
December 2nd, 2009 at 8:39 pmit’s true.
December 2nd, 2009 at 8:40 pm— Well then it should be super easy to show the empirical evidences which support this truth right dipshit?
Well well. Republicans are not acting in good faith – that explains all your questions about Republicans now doesn’t it, permanently, all except what diabolical deeds they have planned…
December 2nd, 2009 at 8:41 pmThe OSTLhole spews lies as freely and easily as those two crooks Bush and Cheney.
Holy rollers tell so many lies these days that they can’t even keep them straight.
December 2nd, 2009 at 8:41 pmWhy isn’t the OSTLhole currently in Iraq?
December 2nd, 2009 at 8:42 pmBeck is a dumbass moron who never even made it out of a cheap easy holy roller diploma mill, let alone a prestigious institution of higher learning.
The size of his following demonstrates just how utterly stupid many Americans are these days.
Beck counts on the ignorance and intellectual deficiency of his audience to regale them with nonsense and lies.
Anyone who listens to Beck serioiusly is a fool.
December 2nd, 2009 at 8:44 pmnow people who vote for Republicans are not acting in good faith either!
December 2nd, 2009 at 8:48 pmOSTL does not support his president in time of war. According to the Republican Party, he is a traitor to his country.
December 2nd, 2009 at 8:48 pmBush/Cheney are never gone while their followers still act as if those liars told the truth.
Bush/Cheney started the freak show, and we must never let them or their stupid
December 2nd, 2009 at 8:48 pmfollowers off the hook.
Separated at birth?
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_UGplL0SB3Gc/SqDDZM1zJsI/AAAAAAAAANc/F6t3LUpge44/s400/michael_berryman.jpg
December 2nd, 2009 at 8:49 pmWhy isn’t the OSTLhole suiting up for Afghanistan?
You supported the wars unquestioningly, chump, not me.
You parrot all the lies.
Go walk your talk, bozo.
December 2nd, 2009 at 8:50 pm87. dbadass
Jeffy Bovine responses are easier if you try a 50/50 mix of classical reward/punishment conditioning with some plain teasing.
Kind of like training a dog to roll over by rolling the treat close to the floor, but then you throw the reward through a ring.
The downside of this, I released a mutt unable to fend for itself and conditioned to perform tricks to obtain its subsistence.
Such is Jeffy Bovine’s level of intelligence.
December 2nd, 2009 at 8:51 pmOn a less snarky note, I am continually encouraged by the fact that most extremist movements fall into self-conflagration. That’s what happens when all the mean and vicious people in a society flock together. They reserve their greatest meanness and viciousness for those who fail the “purity test”. For some reason I’m reminded of people like Leon Trotsky and Erwin Rommel.
December 2nd, 2009 at 8:56 pmOSTLhole doesn’t seem to be too eager to get into the shooting.
He’d rather sit on his fat butt and play with himself.
December 2nd, 2009 at 8:56 pmI should, also, probably apologize to Michael Berryman. He sounds like a cool guy who has risen above the cruelty of his fellows and lived a full life.
December 2nd, 2009 at 8:58 pmThe sht flinging Baboon Beck is doing Flushed Limp balls one better.
They both know they are toxic and unelectable. Now the Baboon is playing for all the marbles, or rather those who have lost them.
Limp Balls tried to influence the 2008 election with his operation BLOWS.
The Baboon is now following the footsteps and trying to influence the 2010 midterm elections by rallying its mini-baboons into more sht flinging, even against the gNOpigs.
I loooooooooooooooove it.
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:03 pmha ha! how the hell did you find that, pete… wow!
.
and dbad – of course i did…
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:04 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
katy,
I was surfing Wiki and came across his name as someone who has been typecasted due to appearance. A coincidence?
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:08 pmI went to Eric Forcade’s web site to read his resume. The saddest thing about Eric Forcade is that he has two young children. More than likely they will subjected to many years of lessons in racism, hatred, intolerance, lies, distortion, and FOX News.
Somebody please call the child welfare officials in Florida to protect these young, innocent, defenseless children from Mr. Forcade.
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:11 pm“The effort to oust imperfect conservative Republicans is buoyed by an internal Republican National Committee struggle to create an ideological litmus test for judging candidates.”
Some tent ya got there GOP.
HAHAHAHAHAHA
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:11 pmIt’s too bad Bush dropped the ball in Afghanistan. OSTL, are you going to condemn Bush for this colossal military and political mistake?
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:13 pmPlease ignore the troll OSTL and all other trolls. At post 122 he is still here and has yet to be on topic. Ignore the ass and he will go away. Keep responding and he will continue to be here.
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:13 pmLook, I never judge people on their appearance. But this guy has the same ‘Deer in the Headlights’ that ALL psycho Righties have. Michelle Bachman, Doug Hoffman and even Sarah Palin. The same wide eyed, bug eyed, weird strange smile. Damn. These people really creep me out.
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:13 pmangels@127, I made P.S. a promise yesterday to never respond directly to a troll, and it works wonders, in fact, it makes them more frazzled.
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:16 pmI am quite happy to condemn wholeheartedly and repeatedly the lying repiggie trash and their moronic blog satraps.
The repiggie brought us these stupid and immoral wars and well as their financial “expertise,” which has brought our nation to the brink of ruin.
The scientific “expertise” of the repiggies continues to astound the world with its mindlessness and intransigence, both of which i wholeheartedly and enthusiastically condemn.
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:16 pmStill trying to come up with something?
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:17 pm—
No. Wanna go head to head?
Malkin side by side with Coulter…….make it a 3some and add Karen Hanretty. I have a feeling they are all neatly trimmed, already……
By royal king / Jeffy Bovine / olby sucks / OSTL on January 20, 2008 3:21 PM
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Bovine, as if we didn’t already know what a sick POS you are.
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:18 pmPlease ignore the troll OSTL
Sorry about that!
Let me rephrase:
Isn’t it amazing how no one talks about how Bush dropped the ball in Afghanistan? Really, Bush’s acts condemn him.
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:20 pmP.D.
There are people who convey their madness with every glance.
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:20 pmOh God! Oh God!! Yes! Yes!! YES!! More! Oh, God, yes! More!! (smoking cigarette) Mmmmm.
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:21 pmBush – 7 years to get it right.
Obama – 10 months to get it right.
Fair and balanced. Pffft.
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:22 pmLOL! Hey pete! Remember when Bachman had the audacity to suggest we investigate all the Dems for being un-American? I suggest we give Whack-os a psychological test to see if they are sane enough to run for office!
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:24 pmOh, dear. We offended another troll with a busy ‘Vote Down’ trigger finger.
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:26 pmSorry, got carried away. I love watching inAmerican, unpatriotic, idiots disintegrating in front of my very eyes. Music to my senses.
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:26 pm139 P.D.
psychological test?
Before or after they slit their wrists on a suicidal pact? as Bat Sht Crazy suggested.
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:30 pmOSTL the odomite troll says:
That’s true…..it’s sort of like handing a relief pitcher the ball in the eighth inning, down ten runs, after the starting pitcher messed up big time.
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:30 pmIt’s just one of the too many to count Bush Republican messes that President Obama has to clean up.
OSTL:
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:33 pmCan I ask you a question and get an honest answer without any lame ass bullshit?
P.D.
I live just a few blocks outside of Crazy Shelly’s (Bachmann) District and have followed her whole career in dismay and horror.
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:34 pmOSTL:
Can I ask you a question and get an honest answer without any lame ass bullshit?
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:33 pm Vote Up | Vote Down | (-1)
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Is this a no?
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:35 pmIt is like a fu cked up middle school around here sometimes…
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:37 pmOn a follow up to a recent idea, Bovine, I will post your gay bareback cowboy picture at the Roadhouse men’s bathroom announcing your candidacy.
In order to increase your chances, Bovine, you’ll also have to do airports.
Do not insist, Bovine. My standard 70% image management fee still applies.
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:38 pmSo OSTL are we gonna have this conversation or not? All I wanna know is an answer to a single question. The catch is that it has to be a sincere answer. Can you handle that?
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:38 pmWhat will be the first thing these teabaggers do, if heaven forbid one of them should get elected? Ban the teaching of evolution? Extend control over women and their bodies? Support legislation to kill gays? We need to keep the American Taliban from gaining power, short of drone attacks.
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:38 pmor stfu!
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:39 pm—
You are strong enough to make that command.
oops I forgot the question mark
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:39 pmEven in spite of the massive incompetence and the monstrous lies of Bush and Cheney, their admirers on this blog would choose them again in a heartbeat.
It just goes to show the moral depravity of the white-wingers.
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:41 pmUnlike you, I have a real job and the current work load has prevented me from spending much time blogging.
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:41 pmMaybe some day you will have a job and understand what I am talking about.
OSTL:
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:41 pmAre you tweeking too much to slow down and get focused so that we can have a nice chat?
OSTL says:
Malkin and Gibson on Hannity! Sweet!
I’ve never had the image of Napoleon Dynamite come to mind so abruptly.
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:41 pmHannity and Gibson are having sex with animals. LOL
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:41 pmOSTL:
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:43 pmTake a few deep breathes and maybe step outside for a moment. When you are ready let me know…
The teabaggers supporte the Bush/Cheney lies without question or protest.
They are garbage, and I will never vote for those creeps.
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:44 pmIt is really an easy question although I suspect you won’t answer it with sincerity. You are an honorable and sincere man of conviction I assume…
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:44 pmI shudder to imagine what this country would become, if it were run by the teabaggers and scum like Hannity, Malkin etc. What kind of sick person actually wants to live like that?
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:45 pmYou word is you honor right OSTL?
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:45 pmwho stole those “r”’s?
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:45 pmThe Dominionist evangelical whack-jobs on this blog are one-note johnnies, all shrilly braying the asses of FoxNews and the repiggie leadership.
A vote for the repiggies is a vote for that evangelical claptrap,
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:46 pmOSTL:
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:48 pmAre you ready to. Did you take those nice yoga breaths? It is just one question and your integrity will be revealed by your answer…
OSTL, your name is deflection. Respond coward, c’mon repug, man up.
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:48 pmOSTL
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:49 pmI can make you a cup of tea first if it will help you come down
OSTL: dbadass has been kicking your ass from issue to issue, c’mon coward, step up.
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:49 pmOSTL:
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:50 pmNo one wants to make you look foolish. Just slow down and join the discussion….
OSTL says:
Do you people know how stupid and childish you come across when you fill these threads with nothing but personal attacks?
Do you know how stupid and childish you come across when you fill these threads?
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:50 pmBovine, sweetie,
We both know you are dreaming of working for me.
Tell me, Jeffy. What’s Mark Koldys got on you that I don’t?
Billdos? falafels? speed? a hairy a$$?
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:50 pmOSTL:
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:51 pmSee people are starting to think you are less than capable. Is that what you want? Come on my friend it is just one question….
OSTL must have been neglected as a child. Sent off to boarding school with a steady diet of atomic wedgies daily. Low self esteem for the sad repug.
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:51 pmOSTL:
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:52 pmYou take hard stances. You must be a person of conviction. People of conviction are not frightened to stand by those convictions right? Are you ready yet?
OSTL”
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:53 pmWould hot chocolate be better than tea? It is okay OSTL, you are safe here….
these righty guys are not to be taken lighty –
they’re sending rubber chickens to the R’s they want to unseat,
and that’s serious.
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:54 pmSo OSTL
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:54 pmJust one question and all you have to do is give a sincere answer….
OSTL says:
——————————————————————————–
dbadass has been kicking your ass from issue to issue
Did I miss something?
Yes, intelligent conversation where you have to defend the ideas of a cowardly repug.
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:54 pmOSTL
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:56 pmI really don’t want you to look like a fraud and an attention seeking poser as I am so sure of your deep seated convictions and integrity. So why don’t we move forward with a discussion of your heartfelt ideas after you answer my one simple question….
OSTL: What does it feel like knowing everything you stand for has been shown to be wrong? Repug’s are a dying species, they’re eating their own.
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:56 pmOSTL:
December 2nd, 2009 at 9:58 pmWhy are you avoiding this? It isn’t going to go away. You are a big boy with big boy pants right?
These Tea Party dudes are going wake up (or not) with some bad hangovers.
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:01 pmOSTL:
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:01 pmI am a super patient sort of person and I really try and stand up for the weak and inferior but still I need you to step up and show that you are something more than a wannabe negative attention seekling pussy pos. Can you do that? It is but one question and it needs but one single answer. Catch is that sincerity part….
The teabagger nitwits are all born-again pricks and twats with hardly a functioning brain cell amongst them.
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:02 pmNotice how when the subject becomes unnerved how thay flail around with little control and lots of nothing. This standard response serve little purpose but to reinforce their obvious lack of conviction and inability o face those who frighten them….
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:03 pmI’ve heard that Religion is the opiate of the masses, but these Teabaggers are overdosing.
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:04 pmOSTL:
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:05 pmAre you a total pussy? Come on my friend, I don’t wish you to look the fool. Just stand up and show you are able to chat with me or simply acknowledge that you are inferior, fraudulent, and insincere. There is no honor in pretending…
The Bible-thumpers are going to show you how much they love Jesus, even if they have to beat you to death to show it.
A teabagger twat recently shouted at me, saying “Jesus Christ kicks ass, dude.”
WTF that has to do with their political orientation is beyond me.
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:06 pmIt’s the fundamentalist kook version of Christianity that has poisoned the repiggie ranks these days, and it is responsible for the brainless bravado of morons such as the OSTLhole.
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:07 pmdbadass asks (perhaps rhetorically):
OSTL:
Are you a total pussy?
Why, yes, of course.
And with no life or working brain to boot, as shown by the amount of time it spends here posting nonsense.
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:08 pmReligion is powerful stuff…a little goes a long ways. Or maybe some are using a ruse of being Religious as an excuse for just being a$$holes.
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:09 pmOh dear!
Jeffy Bovine is beginning to dive off his meth high and now is starting to chase his hallucinations.
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:09 pmPussy is stong and powerful, unlike the little repiggie trolls like the OSTLhole.
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:09 pmOSTL:
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:10 pmI can not respect you. I am sorry. It is sad what you are. From this moment forward I will be your shadow. I will remind you at each juncture how weak and lacking in both balls and convictions you are. How our great nation would be hobbled should insincere attention seeking f uckwits like you be allowed to sit at the table of adult discsssion. How your weak and sissified needs embarass and degrade the values for which we stand… Do I really need to continue or will you rise up and be a man/woman?
Worse than the Crack epidemic of the 1980’s. There should be rehab for Fundamentalists. Its a shame to waste so many lives.
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:11 pmPlease don’t give the OSTLhole too much to read.
His skills are a bit lacking in that department, thanks to years of mindlessly repeating the slogans and all-around horse droppings generally known as FoxNews.
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:12 pmDr. Hussein Matt,
Is this really OSTL?:
Mark E Koldys
1936 Brookfield St
Canton, MI 48188-1817
(734) 895-8136
Age: 60-64
I think his neighbors should know that he supports the murder of 3-year-old girls.
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:12 pmNot that I’m teaming up, but may I also pose a question to OSTL?
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:13 pmOSTL, it’s late, it’s ladies not out for the wife and friends, the kids are all asleep. I’m relaxed and full of patience.
OSTL, are you up for a simple challenge?
One that requires only a yes or no response.
Unlike homosexuality, fundamentalist Christianism is an elective behavior, and its pernicious and insidious effects on the host person can be overcome with therapy and discipline.
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:13 pmSome (I won’t mention a name) think repeating a bumper sticker is debate.
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:14 pm209
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:14 pmGet in line.
Keith, the age range does correlate with his ability to post so often. Retired.
And, if true, he would only live about a 2 hour drive from me!
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:18 pmWould love to meet up with him and have a nice discussion over some barley and hops.
Maybe this weekend?
Once again the reich wing of the repub party shows its true colors – Tiger-striped – after all, don’t tigers eat their young?
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:21 pmOSTL:
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:21 pmI am not kidding. Either toughen up or change names yet again because I am done putting up with your stupid ass. Understood?
Maybe the idiot troll is praying for guidance.
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:21 pmNow come on OSTL.
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:22 pmVoting down our posts without responding is childish and cowardly.
You’re not going to disappear and run from me like Monday, now are you dear?
DRxJ,
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:23 pmI think you should drive over there and warn his neighbors in case they have any little girls. Especially if they are Muslim. He has this idea that murdering them is moral because they could grow up to be a terrorist. He really needs help from someone in the behavioral field, if you know what I mean.
Hey, I do have to fly out of DTW a couple of times next year (early spring)!
Canton is about, what, a 30 minute drive from the airport.
I could leave early and meet up with him.
What say you, OSTL???
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:26 pmOr maybe he is rummaging through his collection of bumper stickers for one he thinks is especially clever.
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:27 pmBlaidd Drwg says:
Hey, don’t insult tigers, please – spiders eat their young, you can insult them. ;)
Welsh, eh?
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:27 pmThe OSTLhole is going all FoxNews on us now.
Christ, what a goddamned cretin he is.
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:27 pmOSTL is not Koldys, he is Koldys lover and sex slave. I wonder if Mr. Koldys ever told his butt buddy OSTL the story about why he was forced to resign from the Wayne County Prosecutors office after a late night incident at a gay bar on Telegraph Road in Dearborn Michigan.
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:28 pmPraise Jesus and change the subject.
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:29 pmPsst.
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:29 pmOSTL.
The thread is not about health care.
It’s about the influence Benn Gleck is having on teabaggers.
Now, care to answer my simple yes or no question, which IS related to the topic?
DRxJ says:
Keith, the age range does correlate with his ability to post so often. Retired.
Nope. Neither his language nor his outlook are indicative of an aged person. He’s a punk kid who lives off Mommy and brings her nothing but grief. Especially when he does up all her crank while she’s out working the streets.
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:30 pmI have read thinkprogress daily at work in australia, for a couple of years. It has always been a good source to me for non-mainstream american political dialouge.
I stopped reading the comments for the last couple of weeks as the trolls as you call them were distracting even the best of you from the threads. I think a more accurate term for these guys would be ‘D1CKHEADS’
I love the fact they are now being ignored, and the standard of comment has risen again. As an outsider i can tell you it refutes the ‘D1CKHEADS’ idotic bating in a way that is much easier to read.
dbadass keep you seem to be able to hand it to them, and that style adds to the thread.
Hopefully you don’t consider me to be a vote-up baby but i do like to recognise reason.
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:30 pmHi Jane E. Schneider:
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:31 pmPlease excuse my vulagarities. Sometimes the point has to be totally driven home.
It is only a ten minute drive from the airport.
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:31 pmOkay, it’s apparent that OSTL is paying attention to our posts!
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:33 pmWhich means he definitely can’t ignore the requests for debate.
Are you ready?
OSTL
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:34 pmAre we at the point where I can command you to lick my as shole and you will protest not? Face it little one, it is time for you to go… Everyone that reads here knows you are owned and who owns you.
dbadass keep you seem to be able to hand it to them
After you translate this can you elaborate?
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December 2nd, 2009 at 10:35 pmHe is saying that I own you. Wanna discuss it?
Of course, the stupid troll would be able to turn tricks to support his own habit but, against all odds, he manged to get so fat that even his “uncles” don’t want him anymore. There’s nothing creepier than a fat meth addict.
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:37 pmTrying to communicate ratioinally with these holy roller trolls is like trying to be a special education teacher with no idea as to the complete picture of the learning disability.
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:39 pmDid I miss something?
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:40 pmOSTL:
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:40 pmDoes it not embarass you that anyone reading this sees your train wreck or is that your twisted sense of accomplishment?
OSTL,
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:40 pm#220 did not relate to anything that has been said!
I lived in London for twelve years and am very glad they had the healthcare they do. Far better than ours and they spend about 60% what we do per capita. And they do not have a single citizen without healthcare while we have 47 million without. Their life expectancy is higher even though they smoke and drink more, eat unhealthy food and exercise less. A study said it must be due to their healthcare system.
dbadass says:
dbadass keep you seem to be able to hand it to them
After you translate this can you elaborate?
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He is saying that I own you. Wanna discuss it?
db, I stand corrected. With this particular troll, I believe your strategy is entirely appropriate. It is indeed flailing away like a bug pinned to a cork board. Once again it appears convinced that “patsy” is the only person here who despises it, votes it down, and somehow has to long in under 12 different sock puppets (irony piled on irony) in order to do so.
The thing is so thoroughly deranged that only your persistent weirdness is adequate to the task. Squish away!
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:41 pmThe holy roller trolls are doing the bidding of Satan, and are an affront to the teachings and the examples of Jesus Christ.
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:41 pmErm, make that “log in” not “long in”.
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:42 pmHow many of you have noticed that the imbeciles who condemn the “socialist” health care system in Europe and in Canada are the same dingbats who have never left this nation?
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:42 pmI find it a little odd that this particular sockpuppet is still here after last nights tirade and name-jacking. It’s time to stop “flagging” and just send an email to Faiz. “Flagging” just doesn’t work anymore.
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:44 pmWhy oh why did OSTL run off without ever responding to my easy, thought provoking challenge?
Why does he and other antagonists do this every time during the late night hours?
And now, the wife is home.
Which means I have much more important things to pay attention to than waiting for OSTL to NEVER respond!
good night.
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:44 pmevangenital says:
How many of you have noticed that the imbeciles who condemn the “socialist” health care system in Europe and in Canada are the same dingbats who have never left this nation?
That’s because they are convinced that anyone outside their particular clique are “evil”.
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:47 pmThe teabagger trash are noisy buy weak.
So many people are so sick of their crap, especially their total b.s. concerning the health insurance situation in this nation.
They claim to champion the cause of the little people, but they champion only the privilege of the corporate elites.
They are noisy, tacky phonies.
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:47 pmCrap! “is evil”.
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:48 pmThe teabaggers are also the tools of the holy roller lardbutts who profiteer in big-box evangelicalism and necromancy.
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:49 pmgummitch:
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:51 pmI feel that this is a nice community with many people worthy of respect despite and because of their diveristy of experiences and ideas. You are among them. You asked me why I do what I do. I think you deserve an answer. I do what I do because there a but a few who for many often deeply rooted reasons intentional try to create discord. I engage those individuals because I know that the light I shine upon them causes them to truely look within and ask a few questions which need to be asked. It is my hope that I have never been intentionally rude nor disrespectful toward any who has posted sincere thoughts here.
cheers-
The retards that are glued to FoxNews are the same dingbats who don’t own a computer, and they don’t know how to use one.
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:52 pmdbadass keep you seem to be able to hand it to them
After you translate this can you elaborate?
—
sorry about the keep in there. it makes sense without it.
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:53 pmYou’ve only yourself to blame if you do …
Meanwhile, I walk off to make dinner, and you folks just stand on the accelerator …
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:53 pmRan out of bumper stickers…try the ol’ ratings gag….it always gets a few laughs.
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:54 pmOn the other hand, his man-boobs might bring in a few bucks but I don’t think they make “Wonder Bras” to fit a 74A.
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:54 pmThe repiggies cite Rasmussen polls and FoxNews polls as if they were balanced and impartial.
It’s all total crap, promulgated by corporate scum and parroted by the teabagger twats.
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:55 pmShouldn’t somebody be praying………..for forgiveness.
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:58 pmDoes the OSTLhole work for FoxNews?
He’s seems to be quite the company corker, isn’t he?
December 2nd, 2009 at 10:59 pmHmmm. Was our favorite sockpuppet factory around on the 18th?
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/79961.html
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:00 pmDon’t insult Fux News or their audience….they are special.
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:00 pmOSTL:
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:00 pmPretending doesn’t make it go away. Does it bother you to look so so tiny as to pretend that I am talking to you while you lob at little plops of unrelated nothings?
A vote for the teabagger trash is a vote for an evangelical dictatorship.
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:00 pmOSTL,
When you think The Situation Room, Anderson Cooper, and Campbell Brown are liberal—-that just shows how far out there you are. And a certain number watching BillO and Beck does not mean they are right or that the Dems will lose an election.
The topic of this thread means that conservatives will do worse in coming elections because they are splittling their votes with righteous purity.
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:01 pmplease insert a “not” where it belongs in my last. Thanks-
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:02 pmOSTL:
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:03 pmMy balls…. Lick them! NOW!!!!
Don’t come around here when I am. Am I clear little one?
db, don’t you worry about my sensibilities.
Jord2009, thanks for your comment. Every so often the threads do get out of hand, to say the least. Glad you seem to have stuck with TP anyway.
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:04 pmI can see “patsy” is busy plagiarizing “Dick” Morris again with his lying claims about cancer survival rates…
US cancer mortality – 184 cancer deaths per 100,000 population
UK cancer mortality – 177 cancer deaths per 100,000 population
Oops, “patsy” the Koldys teabagger strikes out again by listening to the “facts” of “Dick” Morris and believing that rightwing corporate lackie! LOL! ;)
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:04 pmGary Herstein says:
#71 pags2 says: On the other side, Beck, Limbaugh and Palin will all be distant memories by 2012 because of the election losses.
I would be astounded if that came to pass. I would predict rather that their popularity will soar
The teabaggers are going to be spoilers in the 2010 elections.The primary challenges are going to cost the regular Republican candidates more campaign money. These fights with the teabaggers will result in a handful of the regular Republican candidates losing their seats. Palin, Limbaugh and Beck are the people who are encouraging the teabaggers to run. The primary fights will leave the regular Republican organizations at the local level financially exhausted. The second part is that the teabaggers will frighten enough voters to cost the party some seats that are not solid Republican. If the Republicans lose some seats or fail to gain any in 2010, then the aforementioned individuals will be blamed.
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:04 pmOSTL says:
The peter meter was just broken….
It wasn’t already when you got caught in the public mens room Koldys? LOL! ;)
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:04 pmIf you ain’t goose stepping, foaming Jesus at the mouth and demanding tax cuts for our rich over-lords then you are a Liberal.
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:05 pmpags2 says:
The teabaggers are going to be spoilers in the 2010 elections.
Yeah, patsy and her kind are “unintentionally” useful idiots! LOL! ;)
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:05 pmOSTL is like the Nader fools that spoiled 2000, help the sad s*ckers out! LOL! ;)
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:06 pmOSTL says:
When you think The Situation Room, Anderson Cooper, and Campbell Brown are liberal—-that just shows how far out there you are.
You thinking they AREN’T shows how far out there you really are.
You thinking your ignorant “opinion” is a fact shows how far out there and stupid you are patsy! LOL! ;)
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:06 pmOSTL:
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:08 pmAre you gonna show this one to your family and friends? I’ll bet your crew would pat you on the back and show you stuck it to that TP and that dbadass in particular right pretender?
You know “plagiarism” is a “crime” patsy. Considering your history of “death threats” against Obama and other liberals I guess this is just one of your “petty” crimes – right? LOL!
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:09 pmOSTL says:
Lie much?
Project much teabagging sicko?
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:10 pmOSTL says:
dbadass is my daddy….
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:10 pmdbadass says:
OSTL says:
dbadass is my daddy….
That’s what Koldys likes being called when he’s on Rush’s “teabagging” gradeschool tours of central america…
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:11 pmI genuinely realize that it is a waste of time to talk logic to/at you, but it amuses me to do so …
It hardly requires an especially incisive mind to recognize the speciousness of your claim. Consider this alternative, which has the same form as your piece of nonsense above:
You’ve taken a qualifier that obviously stipulated a subset and inverted the relations so that the primary set is the sub set. One needn’t have a deep familiarity with formal logic to recognize the monstrous idiocy of such an inversion.
Now, again, I realize the above analysis is wasted on you. But in case the question arises amongst thinking persons here or elsewhere, or even glimmers in the back of your mind where you spend so much effort suppressing such things from your conscious awareness, this kind of nonsense is why so many people here do nothing but mock you as a fool.
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:12 pmOSTL
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:13 pmIt is okay I understand. You are a little panicked. Confused. Incapable of defending yourself it is naturally that you will try to avoid. Still your weird attention needs demand that you continue to try to be noticed. Yet within each time I humiliate you a little more the hurt grows…
dbadass, but patsy likes it when you “hurt” her. Reminds her of those late night visits by “daddy” when she was a little nut busting girl just learning how to “teabag”… LOL! ;)
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:14 pmSend in the clowns.
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:14 pmAhhh Gary Herstein:
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:15 pmAs soon as I am done filleting this little one I really would like to talk adult talk.
-best-
The teabaggers admire and love Sarah Palin.
That shows just how goddamned stupid they are.
We had eight years of a drunken cokehead in the White House.
Do we need any more repiggies with massive socialization problems?
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:15 pmSo, Jeffy Bovine
How about my idea of having you run for office at your local government in California.
A professional horsie fluffer cannot be any worse than the Gropignator.
What say you, Bovine?
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:15 pmActually, I don’t think so, though that will depend on state laws. It is unethical, which never slowed down the Wingnuts …
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:15 pmOSTL says:
Plagiarize much, lie much, patty cakes?
Ah, how funny, the “criminal” is caught “plagiarizing” and this is all she’s got! Repeating her “lies” and ignoring her crime? LOL! You make “pathetic” look like genius you are so “pathetic” my little fat *ssed inbred loser! LOL! ;)
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:16 pmDespair much?
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:16 pmYa know. It really is sad when making fun of the Privacy Center is more amusing. Damn OSTL you are one sad pos.
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:16 pmThe OSTLhole just pulls stuff out of his butt, just like his idol Sarah Palin.
It’s nonsensical and illogical, but the crass sloganeering plays well with the stupid.
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:16 pmPoor “patsy”, were you too “stupid” to fact check Dick Morris, or did you think plagiarizing the “lies” of your favorite “dick” wouldn’t be checked? LOL! What a pathetic little piece of sh!t loser you are patsy!
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:18 pmLOL!
LOL!
LOL!
LOL!
LOL!
Sliced thin, grilled with some ex. virgin olive oil, diced onions, rosemary, and just a touch of cayenne …
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:18 pmGary Herstein
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:19 pmOSTL will just jump around like a tweeker in hopes of finding a place to land…. Scratching OSTL’s spiders is like a palor game…
The OSTLhole needs to explain how one can “murder” an embryo, given that an embryo is not a sentient being.
Have we started issuing identity papers and social security numbers to embryos?
Do they now possess birth certificates?
When will this white-wing lunacy end?
This pro-embryo crap is for nitwits and goobers.
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:20 pmBecause you’re a moron?
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:20 pmThe OSTLhole is sloganeering again.
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:21 pmOSTL says:
And if they find a cure for cancer with stem cell research I’m not taking it. I’m not going live off murdered embryos.
—–
A clinical example of when the need for attention overwelhms the mind…
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:21 pmOh the poor defenseless globs of cells. I must wring my hands and pray and act superior.
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:21 pmIsn’t that cute? The poor stupid troll is trying to bait me.
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:22 pmPatsy gets caught “plagiarizing” lies, and she’s too much of a p*ssy to admit she’s too busy sucking on “dick”’s blog to “care” she’s a liar and a ‘crook’. Yep, that’s a “conservative” – criminal, rotten and immoral to the core…
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:22 pmThe OSTLhole, in spite of his hissy fit, would probably be the first in line for stem-cell therapies, if it meant that his life might be spared an extra week or two.
Pretty soon, we will be hearing reports of repiggies jetting over to Europe and Asia for stem-cell therapies, while continuing to outlaw them here.
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:22 pmHere’s an idea.
Let’s make a list of why OSTL is afraid to respond to me. I’ll start
REASONS WHY OSTL IS AFRAID TO RESPOND TO DBADASS
1) Past experiences has resulted in a conditioned response.
2)
3)
this ought to be fun….
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:23 pmGary, you’re encouraging db to talk cooking – you’ll be comparing recipes in a minute! ;)
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:24 pmOSTL says:
patty cakes, I’ll take Dick Morris’s word over your “word” any day.
Which is why you’re a useless d*uchebag. I pulled the data from health care resources myself. Something you could do if you weren’t too incompetent and too willing to be spoon fed your lies… ZZZzzz… You’re as stupid as you are predictable patsy… ZZZzzzz…
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:26 pmToo bad your responding to one of your co-whore namejacking pals. I agree, patty cakes is one sick phuck.
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December 2nd, 2009 at 11:26 pmBullshit and besides what difference does it make. Show some balls and let’s get at a nice chat shall we?
OSTL says:
Too bad your responding to one of your co-whore namejacking pals. I agree, patty cakes is one sick phuck.
Ah Koldys, a sicko teabagging old perv like you is in no position to call someone a “whore” or “sick”!!! LOL! ;)
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:28 pmJane
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:28 pmI have my knife hand behind my back trying not to go all julliene…
REASONS WHY OSTL IS AFRAID TO RESPOND TO DBADASS
1) Past experiences has resulted in a conditioned response.
2) It would require thinkning, and that hurts his brain.
3)
this ought to be fun….
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:28 pmOSTL says:
Nothing to respond to ring any bells?
Sure does, it sounds like you Koldys! LOL!
That’s why I make fun of the only skill you do have – copy/paste plagiarism! LOL! ;)
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:28 pmOn the whole, that seems better than the “foot fetish” direction things seem to be taking.
eeeewwwww
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:28 pmToo late, Jane.
Gary. It sounds like a fine recipe but, personally, I prefer coarse ground black pepper with red meat, unless it’s bar-b-cue. In that case I would forgo the olive oil for some black-strap molasses.
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:29 pmOSTL,
The embryos they use (3-4 days old) are the ‘extras’ that would be disposed of, anyway.
Why are you so concerned about life 9 months before birth—yet advocate killing 3-year-old girls?
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:29 pmOSTL:
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:29 pmPick a topic. Any topic. You know you won’t. You are such a pussy!
If I say whores three times real quick it will work like Dorothy in the Wizard of Oz clicking her heels together…..Oh please I just want to go home to Auntie Em.
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:30 pmdb, don’t hold back – hell, go all ginsu if you want.
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:31 pmSo I have these venison chops and I will be honest I don’t usually have venison chops. Any ideas?
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:31 pmBovine, I grow tired of your paranoia.
Pretend you are Tammy Glenn Becker, why would you cry if I nominate you to run for office?
There has to be someone in the world that cares about your mental condition.
Is there?
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:31 pmOSTL says:
Kiss my scrotum, you name jacking assho|e.
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Now for this to work, you would have to show some plausible evidence of a name being jacked…
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:32 pm#334. pete says:
True, I was thinking of chicken, or the “other white meat” …
(At which point, I’m glad I already ate dinner …)
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:33 pmJane E. Schneider says:
db, don’t hold back – hell, go all ginsu if you want.
Nooooooo! “ginsu” is a dirty word to anyone who uses knives for a living.
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:34 pmcan you show any plausible evidences? see the thing is that you are so so lame and weak that you can’t even post a comment that isn’t like all LOL middle schoolish. Know what I mean?
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:34 pmPoor “patsy” thinks “Dick” morris is a more reliable source for “facts” than the CDC and the UK health services! LOL! What a pathetic “teabagging” loon… ZZZzzz…
Nothing here to see but a desperate stupid old loser…ZZZZzzz
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:34 pmolbyloon bombs in ratings, again!
I think you said once before that I got this name from Olbermann and I told you “No, I got it from my parents before Olbermann was born”.
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:36 pmOSTL says:
olbyloon bombs in ratings, again!
1% of the population watches fox – the only “conservative” outlet around. How pathetic is that! again!
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:36 pmGary, it’s true, I don’t really want to think about that disgusting Dick Morris and his foot fetish either. Or about the troll who loves him. Yeesh! Gross!
I’m going to watch Colbert instead.
Goodnight, all, have fun!
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:36 pmREASONS WHY OSTL IS AFRAID TO RESPOND TO DBADASS
1) Past experiences has resulted in a conditioned response.
2) It would require thinkning, and that hurts his brain.
3)OSTL is not a real person with heartfelt convictions.
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:37 pmdbadass says:
So I have these venison chops and I will be honest I don’t usually have venison chops. Any ideas?
I have found that any recipe that works for lamb, minus the mint jelly, works for venison. The key is to use really high heat at the start and then add some moisture.
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:37 pmSo Koldys, has the FBI come by your house yet for the death threats you made against obama?
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:37 pmdid someone say:
“garnished with a chiffonade of fresh ostl”?
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:37 pm#342. dbadass says:
Very “strong” flavor there, rather outside my AOS. Marinate it overnight with pepper corns embedded in the meat, then throw it on a hot grill to flash sear the surface and seal in the juices. Serve with a raw vegetable salad and a baked potato, and the biggest red Zinfandel you can lay your hands on.
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:38 pm342 db
I’d take a few and experiment a bit.
Grilled, after marinated in coca cola and beer with brown sugar and ginger.
Kalbi… uhummm…uhmmm… uhmmmm…
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:39 pmSorry, Pete, my mistake, I don’t use knives for a living. And I’m sure that Wayne is thankful for that.
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:39 pmthanks pete. I was thinking that the more game taste might lend itself better to a more robust pan sauce. Maybe deglazed with a brandy or something like that. Like I said I don’t usually have deer.
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:40 pmAh, poor Koldys is so pissed off that I pwned her she’s “hijacking” my name… What a predictable loser…. ZZzzzz…
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:41 pmthanks all in addition to pete. So I also have some oxtails… For real I am not kidding!
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:41 pmi like ethiopian berbere with game/lamb/goat.
fresh, wet, jerk marinade v/good too.
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:42 pmPoor MSNBC hating lunatics say the “entire” media is liberal, but act like MSNBC is the only liberal outlet when they want to denigrate liberal media! How pathetic and ignorant is that!
What a loser d**chebag Koldys and her band of “mary” hags are…
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:43 pmi like ethiopian berbere with game/lamb/goat.
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December 2nd, 2009 at 11:43 pmCan you come over and cook it? The family is welcome.
OSTL @ 254,
The numbers are sansational, I am really impressed. FOX News is picking up Republican viewership. What a damm suprise!
I do know a few liberals who watch FOX News from time to time. They’re curious lot, but an observation always insues, “boy, how can anybody be so damm dumb”.
humbly, flight
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:43 pmbraise them oxtail on a slow, smoky fire w/some wine/shallot
sorry – i’m spouting off re: foods.
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:44 pmNo problem, Jane.
I was just reminded of a time when my boss’s wife brought a Ginsu into MY kitchen. I can laugh about it now but, some of my teenage employees thought that they would never use a dull knife again. And that was after I went to such pains to teach them to use a steel before every shift.
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:45 pmNooooooo! “ginsu” is a dirty word to anyone who uses knives for a living.
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December 2nd, 2009 at 11:46 pmThe focused mind hears all while hearing nothing…..
Seems some all caps type is hopimg to be part of a community.
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:47 pmnothing tricky about it. pack that berbere on like dry rub and grill. drawn butter or lamb fat make it stick and gel up nicely if the meat’s really lean.
spicy hot – awesome with a chilly pilsner or some kind of cooling sides…now i wish it was summer again – dammit!!
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:47 pmOSTL
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:49 pmSee how food brings people together? Do you have a game recipe you would like to share?
#369. tombaker says:
Don’t apologize; though its not a good sign that I’m getting hungry again …
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:49 pmDid anyone make the popcorn, I would like mine with a little salt and butter.
Tea gaggers and Glenda Beck, let the GOP carnage begin. This will be a treat, Republicans eating their own.
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:50 pmOxtail?
Soup.
It is kind of a chore to clean those.
Bring enough water to a boil. Drop the oxtail into the pot for about 3 minutes, just enough time to soften the excess fat around the chunks.
Follow the standard recipe for a good stew.
Potatoes, carrots, maybe some squash, onion, garlic, etc. and the ox tail.
Bring to a boil, and simmer as long as you like. The longer the better.
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:52 pmThe key here are the potatoes and carrots.
Don’t put too much tomatoes, unless you like your soup on the tangy side.
dbadass,
I try to avoid sauces when I cook “gamey” meat. Much of the “gaminess” ends up stuck to the pan. In fact, when I do chops, I prefer using a grill or broiler and letting the “gaminess” drip out.
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:52 pmOSTL:
December 2nd, 2009 at 11:55 pm” WHen I bend over. You start fu ckin’”!
G’nite folks
December 3rd, 2009 at 12:02 am#379 OSTL, I see you are a fan of Dr. Mengele!
December 3rd, 2009 at 12:09 amOSTL says:
I’m not even here so I don’t know why you’re still talking about me.
That means something in your world? ‘Cause if it does – you should examine why you always talk about Olbermann even when he’s not here! You pathetic d*uche – you pwned yourself again with another one line self smack down! LOL!
December 3rd, 2009 at 12:09 amSo OSTL;
December 3rd, 2009 at 12:13 amCan I get your sincere response now? All I wanted to know was why?? Why do you do it?
just the bleepn facts,
December 3rd, 2009 at 12:16 amSeems to me someone is having fun using the “OSTL” nom de guerre. #379 and several others.
I believe the original OSTL has left.
December 3rd, 2009 at 12:17 amKeith says:
I believe the original OSTL has left.
I’ve read that the crash from meth, when it comes, is hard. If he weren’t so vile I would pity him.
December 3rd, 2009 at 12:21 amHe couldn’t standup to dbadass
December 3rd, 2009 at 12:24 amOSTL
December 3rd, 2009 at 12:28 amYou do realize how this looks I assume… Are you one of those Vitter type weirdos?
Fake OSTL Real OSTL
December 3rd, 2009 at 12:30 amDoesn’t matter to me. You all are both so so small…
An OSTLhole is still an OSTLhole, fake or real.
December 3rd, 2009 at 12:31 amSo I assume that OSTL stands for -
Obviously Stupid Troll Loser
it sure seems that it does, it is rare that we see such a display of shear ignorance as this.
December 3rd, 2009 at 12:38 amJord2009 says: Your comment is awaiting moderation.
i won’t use off-colour words anymore.
I am glad that it is you some of the educated americans who have stuck with thinkprogress. I am interested in politics, and have to follow the american political scene as what happens in your country directly affects those in all others.
Through the excellent research done by the article writers, (and posters), I am able to cut through a bit of the punditry to try and understand the issues. Just briefly on your health reform debate, I have showed my dad, a old school conservative which by the way is a more moderate type of conservative in Australia, some of the teabagging youtube clips. He said “those poor people look like they could do with seeing a doctor.”
I am sorry that is off the thread topic.
Once again thank you for your time spent in allowing others to be able to find information not clouded by the “conga line of a55holes”. So that I can form my own opinions. That quote is from former Australian Prime Minister Paul Keating. He used it to describe the conservative opposition party.
From now on I won’t only lurk on Think Progress, but contribute when I think I have valid argument to add.
December 3rd, 2009 at 12:47 amMore and more I hear/read about the new teabagger party, the thing that keeps coming to mind is…what a bunch of sore losers. What a bunch of petulant children throwing what I consider a temper tantrum because a republican didn’t win the presidency.
GF42
December 3rd, 2009 at 12:51 amThat dude looks a little flat in the skull area; has anyone checked his brow ridges …? I mean, come on – even the Geico Cavemen have higher foreheads!!
December 3rd, 2009 at 12:54 amThere is not “conservative” and “liberal” science. If its done correctly its science (can be proven, repeated, peer reviewed, ect). Otherwise its either Philosophy, religion, or just incorrect.
You can’t just say science is liberal, and religion is conservative. Statements like that are just semantics anyways, and a method for derailing any real debate.
December 3rd, 2009 at 1:00 amEric Forcade’s working some new veneers, too, Leftside Annie.
December 3rd, 2009 at 1:21 am@ 379. OSTL sez …
sez something ignorant. sure, OSTL, I’m just a poor dumb engineer so anything you say is waaaaay over my head. however, here’s something that is probably over your head, if you still have one. there is no such thing as “liberal” science or “conservative” science – just science.
that’s not to say that various and sundry political parties, politicians, political movements, etc etc, haven’t tried to hijack science to support their own perversion or perverse worldview, and it’s not to say that scientists don’t have their own political opinions. opinions abound and the extremes of all sides have tried to pervert the general discipline. your particular perverts have the ordinary habit of denying scientific findings when they don’t agree with or support your dogma; you are no more interested in the ‘truth’ than you are in anything else you find disagreeable.
but don’t worry about that. over the long haul, all sides will take a shot at perverting the discipline and over the long haul, you’ll all crap out and the truth, such as it is, will remain or be rediscovered. the best thing about science and its next door neighbor, engineering, is that at core, it’s independent of the BS that people like you try to heap on it.
December 3rd, 2009 at 1:28 am@ 399. AaronQ… Ha, ya beat me to it, Aaron. I didn’t intend to step on your toes – you must have posted between the time I acquired the thread and when I finally stopped scribbling long enough to hit ’submit’.
December 3rd, 2009 at 1:34 amI would think “conservative” science is just censored,
December 3rd, 2009 at 1:43 amor manipulated for political, religious or financial prejudices.
In short, conservative science is corrupted.
Re: dbadass and Gary:
How about a nice, well-seasoned Oregon Pinot Noir to wash it down with?
December 3rd, 2009 at 1:54 ampinot and venison?
word, t.h.e.cat
December 3rd, 2009 at 2:09 amOSTL, you think the word liberal is a word you can use to reduce people to stereotypes. No better than calling someone a jew or black. You must be really bummed that the nazis lost WW2.
December 3rd, 2009 at 2:45 amSo OSTL why are you even here? isn’t using the internet liberal? Don’t you have to asleep now? milking those cows in the morning is going to be rough, since you don’t have the immigrants to do it for you. And your kids arn’t going to get the beating they deserves since you’re so tired. Because you can’t drink coffee, Thats for liberals. You sure do talk a lot for someone who is conservative. Why arn’t you out protesting abortion clinics? I bet you’re a self -hating gay liberal after all.
December 3rd, 2009 at 2:54 amThere’s a pipe smoking application for blackberrys now?
December 3rd, 2009 at 3:08 amThat sure solves my xmas gift quandaries.
OSTL says:
Paranoia strikes deep, into your life it will creep. Starts when you’re always afraid, step out of line the man comes and takes you away. We better stop, hey, what’s that sound? Everybody look what’s going down.
Put that in your blackberry and smoke it, liberals.
You’re right OSTL about the paranoia! After all, TEH HOMOSEXUAL AGENDA is TRULY out to get you…I should know. I am a card-carrying member…I am there to warn you of our insidious plot. I would tell you to smoke a p…but I won’t go there. I am already infected as it is…
December 3rd, 2009 at 3:50 amRepublicans are not acting in good faith.
December 3rd, 2009 at 3:51 amOSTL says:
is a
December 3rd, 2009 at 4:33 amSpamtroll Totally United Promoting Ignorant Deception
S.T.U.P.I.D
This reminds me of the Monty Python routine in which the Silly Party splinters off into the Very Silly Party. :)
The Merchant Who Thought He Was God
December 3rd, 2009 at 5:20 amOSTL…
So… it’s your view that the Taliban is going to wait until the moment we leave.. then attack. Let’s look at this logic.
Ok… so if they leave us alone for the next 18 months.. we build up the infrastructure, agriculture, state and central government unity, build up a strong security force and citizen support for it’s own nation. All of this without contest by the Taliban… and we maybe lob a Drone and take out a few of their leaders while we’re at it..
By YOUR theory.. we have 18 months to prepare completely unhindered by the enemy – and then they attack?
Sounds like this should go even better than I predicted if the Taliban uses OSTL strategy..
December 3rd, 2009 at 6:08 amIt’s like waiting until someone gets done building a wall.. to throw your rock at it.
December 3rd, 2009 at 6:12 amYou’re singing liberal songs now? Wow, you neocons have nothing new to offer the political arena and you’re STILL relying on copying the liberals to make it seem like you know what you’re doing!
Sorry. We were and are the GREAT PATRIOTS OF AMERICA. You neocons are not and never will be. You’re just a bunch of domestic terrorists without a country, you know, just like al-Qaida!
December 3rd, 2009 at 7:06 amThe whole “Tea Party” thing is a scam and a lie bigger than Gingrich’s “Contract with America” that turned out to be a “Contract with K-Street.” I have to give credit to Dick Armey, though–how else was he going to get old, white people in the streets OPPOSING the tax cuts Obama gave them while ADVOCATING for tax cuts that only the rich like Armey, Hannity, and Limbaugh will realize.
December 3rd, 2009 at 7:20 amOSTL is now Iamlegend.
And I haven’t heard from him, have you?
*whistles*
Trolls Igno(RED)
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:05 amIt’s about time. We finally have the chance to send a representative to Washington to “keep the government out of our Medicare.”
That’s beautiful. A whole crop of Palins.
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:15 amOne question: if Beck endorses these teabaggers by name on his show, will he have to register his corporate identity (his show, that is) as a political action committee, with the FEC?
That would blow his “non-partisan commentator” cover.
December 3rd, 2009 at 8:43 amAnyone, and I mean ANYONE, who runs for political office because they are inspired by Glenn Becks ideals is a danger to the United States.
December 3rd, 2009 at 9:12 amThe damage done to our political system, and our ability to talk to one another by paid to be conservative hacks like Beck, Hannity, Limbaugh, Coulter, O’Reilly et. al is already incalculable. If ever one of them dissapeared tomorrow, the hateful words, bigotry, homophobia, xenophobia and plain stupidity will still motivate the intellectually challanged for decades to come. To think that the people would try to be elected to the US congress is revolting.
Good. Let them cannibalize each other. I wonder who dear Sarah will endorse in AZ? Time to repay McPain for Painlin.
December 3rd, 2009 at 9:12 amThe OSTLhole is a moron.
Don’t waste your time with it.
December 3rd, 2009 at 9:16 am@ 430. okie dokie says: I would think “conservative” science is just censored, or manipulated for political, religious or financial prejudices. In short, conservative science is corrupted. December 3rd, 2009 at 1:43 am
Yes, okie, you could say that “conservative” science is science corrupted, but that’s true of any scientific endeavour where someone is trying to attach an agenda which is not relevant to the science, or where scientific findings or speculation are abused for political ends. In the sense that science is a methodology, a “tool”, it can be abused.
In a much larger sense than our trolls understand, science is both conservative and liberal. Science is conservative in it’s approach to extending findings from observation; in that sense, it’s conservative in the same way “Occam’s Razor” is conservative. Explanations are sought for phenomena which are the least complicated, the simplest, while remaining necessary and sufficient. Science is also conseervative in the sense that theory, the basic substance of any scientific discipline, isn’t simply thrown out in favor of the latest fad, idea, or crackpot notion; knowledge is conserved.
At the same time, science is liberal. No line of inquiry is off limits; there are no inherent or intrinsic boundaries to inquiry. There have been and may always be societies and polities that try to bound inquiry, try to stifle what is politcally uncomfortable, or mock inquiry in the name of some unexplained and inexplicable “higher power”, and there will even be scientists who will go along with that sort of external pressure or abuse, who will sell out, as it were. Scientists are people, as much so as non-scientists, and all people have a particulr comfort sone they want to stay in, and we always have those around who want to force their notion of how the world must be on everyone else.
The politicians, for instance, who are pushing climate change denial fall in that last category. Some may be acting in good faith, but the majority have ulterior motivations; money, power, the usual. What I find interesting is that cleaning up pollution sources, assuring clean air, clean water, and non-contaminated soil and land should be a no-brainer; why would anyone object to that? Cost really isn’t a consideration; the cost of what happens if we don’t clean up what we’re spewing and what we’ve already dumped should be the benchmark. What our societies and industries may pay to clean up the befoulment is minor in comparison to what we’ll inflict on ourselves, our descendants, and every other living thing on the planet if we don’t clean it up.
Climate change is just one more factor in that mix. It may very well be that our effect on climate isn’t as great as some think, it may be that it’s greater, or it may even turn out that something we don’t expect or understand is happening. We know a lot less than some people think we know, but oddly enough, reducing the amount of crap we’re putting into the environment is the conservative thing to do – in the sense of conservation of the environment.
December 3rd, 2009 at 12:45 pmIn addition, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), who Beck counts as an enemy because of his former climate change and immigration views, is potentially facing a serious challenge from current radio show host and former Rep. J.D. Hayworth (R-AZ). Hayworth has found a following within the tea party movement.
Global Warming.. the great farce… LMAO suckers.
December 3rd, 2009 at 3:35 pmCould you please also list Jake Towne, an Independent candidate who has stepped into the race in PA-15 against incumbent Charlie Dent? Democrats have a top-tier candidate in this race, Bethlehem mayor John Callahan, personally recruited by Joe Biden. If Towne gets his name out, it will help pull conservatives away from Dent.
December 3rd, 2009 at 3:47 pmMr Duke
You ignorant brainwashed pile of dogshit. Your post proves once again how incredibly stupid, uninformed and brainwashed you are. Do yourself a favor. Stop humiliating yourself and STFU
December 4th, 2009 at 2:32 am