Americans Judge The Bush Decade: ‘Awful’ And ‘Not So Good’
Americans Judge The Bush Decade: ‘Awful’ And ‘Not So Good’
A new NBC/Wall Street Journal poll finds that Americans are entering 2010 with a negative view of the events of the past decade, which was largely marked by President Bush’s tenure from 2001-2009:
According to the poll, a combined 58% said the decade was either “awful” or “not so good,” 29% said it was fair, and just 12% said it was either “good” or “great.” [...]
Asked what they thought had the greatest negative impact on America this past decade, 38% cited the 9/11 terrorist attacks, 23% picked the mortgage and housing crisis, 20% said the Iraq war, 11% chose the stock market crash, and 6% said Hurricane Katrina.
But 37% said it lost ground on the environment, 46% said it lost ground on health and well being, 50% said it lost ground on peace and national security, 54% said lost ground on the nation’s sense of unity, 55% said it lost ground in treating others with respect, 66% said it lost ground on moral values, and a whopping 74% said it lost ground on economic prosperity.
Census Bureau figures released in September largely support the public’s pessimistic take on the last decade:
On every major measurement, the Census Bureau report shows that the country lost ground during Bush’s two terms. While Bush was in office, the median household income declined, poverty increased, childhood poverty increased even more, and the number of Americans without health insurance spiked. By contrast, the country’s condition improved on each of those measures during Bill Clinton’s two terms, often substantially. [...]
Bush built his economic strategy around tax cuts, passing large reductions both in 2001 and 2003. … But the bleak economic results from Bush’s two terms, tarnish, to put it mildly, the idea that tax cuts represent an economic silver bullet.
The poll comes as loyal Bushies are attempting to rewrite the former president’s legacy and delude the public into believing that the country’s current problems are all the fault of President Obama. Former White House adviser Karl Rove, for example, has been all over the media, issuing statements like the Bush administration has “no” responsibility for current budget deficits. Bush officials have even tried to claim that they made Afghanistan a top priority and that Obama is the one who has been screwing up their work. Fox News host Sean Hannity has gone so far as to say that Bush deserved the Nobel Peace Prize, and Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-UT) is claiming that the cure to the country’s problems is to just give political control back to Republicans (which was true for a large part of the last decade).
Historians have ranked Bush as one of the top 10 worst presidents in U.S. history and believe his legacy will most resemble that of former presidents Richard Nixon and Herbert Hoover. Time magazine recently did a feature calling the past 10 years the “decade from Hell.”
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December 21st, 2009 at 4:19 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
worst since the ’80’s, and worse than the ’80’s were.
which is saying a lot.
hmmm…
who ran things then??
December 21st, 2009 at 4:20 pmHey we did have some of the best State of the Union drinking games ever. I still enjoy drink double for every word the presidents says that isn’t really a word….
December 21st, 2009 at 4:21 pmThe world would be a better place if there had been no such thing as a Bush – or Reagan for that matter.
December 21st, 2009 at 4:21 pmTom,
December 21st, 2009 at 4:23 pmWho is…Ronald Reagan?
So… maybe one of our trolls can tells us exactly when the prosperity promised by those tax cuts is due to arrive?
Should be any day now…
December 21st, 2009 at 4:23 pmI’d say Bush is the best President we’ve ever had, right behind:
Washington
Adams
Jefferson
Madison
Monroe
Quincy Adams
Jackson
Van Buren
W. Harrison
Tyler
Polk
Taylor
Fillmore
Pierce
Lincoln
A. Johnson
Grant
Hayes
Garfield
Cleveland
B. Harrison
Cleveland (again)
McKinley
T. Roosevelt
Wilson
Harding
Coolidge
Hoover
F. Roosevelt
Truman
Eisenhower
Kennedy
L. Johnson
Nixon
Ford
Carter
Reagan
Bush 41
and Clinton
But you can thank your lucky stars we didn’t live through the Buchanan administration!
December 21st, 2009 at 4:23 pmepic decade for the ultra-wealthy and amoral rank opportunists though…
so we got that goin’ for us…
December 21st, 2009 at 4:23 pmI imagine the conservapundits will just claim that this poll is bogus because the goal posts are in the wrong place. After all, the decade was the greatest ever because George W. Bush kept our country safe from terrorist attacks. Well, after September 11, 2001 anyway. And, of course, this declaration depends on how one defines “terrorist attack” (anthrax attacks don’t count, and any attack by a non-Muslim doesn’t count).
Or they’ll claim that everything was the liberals’ fault (even though they had no control over any branch of government for most of the decade). Or Bill Clinton’s fault. Or both.
Grab on tight to something — spin’s about to happen!
December 21st, 2009 at 4:24 pmIt’s always Clinton’s fault, and if that doesn’t work they can reach all the way back to the Carter administration.
Works every time.
December 21st, 2009 at 4:26 pmOther than the eight years of Clinton, I’d say the last twenty five years was a downhill slope.
Junior just turned a moderate slope into a toboggan ride.
December 21st, 2009 at 4:26 pmyou liberals need to look at yourselves more closely!
December 21st, 2009 at 4:26 pm—
Why?
I assume braveheart is joking.
December 21st, 2009 at 4:26 pmThe Bush years sucked??
Shocker.
December 21st, 2009 at 4:27 pmYou have to give braveheart a break. It took him until damn near retirement to graduate from college
December 21st, 2009 at 4:28 pmI see, so the 00’s were good until Obama was elected. Is that what your trying to say braveheart?
December 21st, 2009 at 4:28 pmstarts with Obama being greedy
December 21st, 2009 at 4:29 pm—
WTF is this supposed to mean. Didn’t he just say that the Bushes were greedy? Next he’ll have a go at the birds…
braveheart08 says:
Im not talking about carter or clinton, starts with Obama being greedy
just one example of this would be nice.
December 21st, 2009 at 4:29 pmjust one so you dont have to hurt your self.
Were just fighting a war for Bush and Obama like Vietnam and everything you get they are just nickle and dimeing to get it back
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December 21st, 2009 at 4:30 pmJesus it just keeps getting more abstract and freeform…
ralph the wonder llama says:
So… maybe one of our trolls can tells us exactly when the prosperity promised by those tax cuts is due to arrive?
Yes, especially considering that the tax cuts are still in effect as I write! Those magical tax cuts we’ve heard so much about have had plenty of time to do their thing.
I can only conclude that “their thing” had nothing to do with helping middle class Americans and everything to do with transferring more wealth to the top 5%.
December 21st, 2009 at 4:30 pmBiblical times with the Burning Bush weren’t as bad as Dumbya.
Can’t talk
Can’t think
Can’t plan
Can’t lead
Hmmm, I think I’ll be President.
December 21st, 2009 at 4:30 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
38% cited the 9/11 terrorist attacks, 23% picked the mortgage and housing crisis, 20% said the Iraq war, 11% chose the stock market crash, and 6% said Hurricane Katrina.
But 37% said it lost ground on the environment, 46% said it lost ground on health and well being, 50% said it lost ground on peace and national security, 54% said lost ground on the nation’s sense of unity, 55% said it lost ground in treating others with respect, 66% said it lost ground on moral values, and a whopping 74% said it lost ground on economic prosperity.
Reagan started this ball rolling, and GWB painted a cross on it and kicked it into the cheap seats.
Thank you, Republican party. We’d be better off without you.
December 21st, 2009 at 4:31 pmbraveheart,
This is getting better, please go on.
December 21st, 2009 at 4:32 pmAbsolutely correct! GDumbya was a complete and total disaster for this country. And it is no wonder that our largely impatient populace (egged on by the hypocritical republicans) is now unhappy with President Obama. They are upset that he hasn’t fixed everything yet.
That, of course, is an unrealistic expectation; however, I believe that it is the cause of his declining approval numbers. The republicans would have us believe that it is a measure of the President’s unfavorability. I would argue that it’s a measure of just how bad things got when they controlled Congress and GDumbya and Darth Cheney were in power. As hard as Obama has been working, it will take more than his first year in office to climb out of the hole that the republicans dug us into.
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#8 EnnuiDivine,
December 21st, 2009 at 4:33 pmWell said!
Don’t worry, when my first administration ends, I will be the unchallenged champion of “Awful”. I will do this for the American People, you can count on it.
December 21st, 2009 at 4:33 pm—
Are you a stand up guy?
braveheart08 says:
Things use to be Good when Reagan was in
Not so much. We’re not going to let you comfort yourself with that myth either. Real GDP growth during Reagan’s administration was actually slightly less than during Carter’s.
December 21st, 2009 at 4:33 pmUp until November, 2008, it was always Clinton’s fault, no matter what. After Obama was elected, everything became Obama’s fault.
But please remember, millions of teabaggers are ready to start a civil war to return to the good ol’ days when Bush was president and all was “right” in the world…
December 21st, 2009 at 4:34 pmMr Tibbs,
How many troops are fighting in Persia?
December 21st, 2009 at 4:34 pmThey_call_Mr_Tibbs
December 21st, 2009 at 4:35 pmFor real are you or are you not a no shit guy?
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They_call_Mr_Tibbs says:
Oh, and I forgot… see how many troops are fighting in Persia? More than at any time in the Bush Administration.
Um, Persia is Iran, Brainiac. We have no troops there.
December 21st, 2009 at 4:35 pmFormer White House adviser Karl Rove, for example, has been all over the media
Come on TP. Rove has been on ONE network
December 21st, 2009 at 4:36 pm
Okay I think I should probably retract that question as you are clearly a loony…
December 21st, 2009 at 4:36 pmThey_call_Mr_Tibbs says:
Seen how I’m throwing money out the window? Faster and in greater volume than Bush ever did.
[citation needed]
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They_call_Mr_Tibbs says:
Oh, and I forgot… see how many troops are fighting in Persia?
Persia? You mean Iran? If you need to use ancient terms to hide which country you’re talking about, then you’re obviously trying to fool somebody about something. Knock it off.
December 21st, 2009 at 4:36 pmThey_call_Mr_Tibbs says:
Oh, and another thing I forgot to mention. Carbon taxes? Get ready, we have to funnel about $100BN of taxpayer money over to Africa every year moving forward.
Since you totally blew the Persia reference, I’m guessing this is an ignorant fabrication as well.
December 21st, 2009 at 4:36 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Was it Reagan’s support for terrorism that you so enjoyed?
December 21st, 2009 at 4:37 pmReagan was the best president in the last 60 years
No he wasn’t.
December 21st, 2009 at 4:37 pmI graduated in 2001…
give us a reference point, bravepart – a lot of schools have “graduation” from kindergarten.
December 21st, 2009 at 4:37 pmTibbs,
Funneling money to Africa. I think you have the U.S government mixed up with Exxon and and a few other oil companies.
December 21st, 2009 at 4:37 pmI guess you will vote that comment down as well, go ahead it just makes people read it anyways
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December 21st, 2009 at 4:38 pmYou graduated when? Is English your first language?
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braveheart08 says:
Reagan was the best president in the last 60 years
For terrorists holding Americans hostage, he’s a goldmine, of Tow missiles for terrorists.
December 21st, 2009 at 4:38 pmThat would be either the very wealthy, or the terminally stupid.
December 21st, 2009 at 4:38 pmooooh boy, we’ve got a couple of real winners reporting in from troll central.
Calling troll central – time to call these two babbling fools home!
December 21st, 2009 at 4:38 pm“12% said it was either “good” or “great.” “
December 21st, 2009 at 4:39 pm—
grood?
Bush wasn’t even a conservative anyway.
He championed conservative tax breaks. Too bad he exposed the scam that is conservatism.
December 21st, 2009 at 4:39 pmExpert Advice says:
Bush wasn’t even a conservative anyway.
December 21st, 2009 at 4:38 pm
Just keep telling yourself that, dingleberry.
**yawn**
December 21st, 2009 at 4:39 pmExpert Advice
December 21st, 2009 at 4:40 pmAre you a stand up guy?
Come on TP. Rove has been on ONE network
Are you kidding me?
This one is from Fox News dot com
December 21st, 2009 at 4:40 pmAh, the old “Bush wasn’t really a conservative” trick.
December 21st, 2009 at 4:40 pmI can’t help that you think politicans will make you money, go ahead and vote for them loons.
December 21st, 2009 at 4:40 pm— Ah the voice of the American nonvoter…
So 12 percent of the people questioned work for Haliburton ?
December 21st, 2009 at 4:40 pmMy guess is he’s more of an “open mic night” kind of guy.
December 21st, 2009 at 4:40 pmAccording to the poll, a combined 58% said the decade was either “awful” or “not so good,” 29% said it was fair, and just 12% said it was either “good” or “great.” [...]
Expect the Faux News Pie Chart to claim that 29% said it was fair, 12% say it was good, another 12% say it was great, and 58% say it was not so good, for a grand total of 111% of those polled…
December 21st, 2009 at 4:40 pmThey_call_Mr_Tibbs says:
Persia, you know it’s that place over there where they write in squiggles.
I think you mean Mesopotamia, professor.
December 21st, 2009 at 4:41 pmBush wasn’t even a conservative anyway.
Nice try to distance yourself from the disaster that was Bush The Simple. Don’t want to accept the fact that you voted for that fool – twice?
December 21st, 2009 at 4:41 pmReally, though, everyone has to admit that the ’00s were the best decade of the 2000s.
December 21st, 2009 at 4:42 pmRegan was the best President,
Then spell his name correctly, homeschooler.
December 21st, 2009 at 4:42 pmRegan was the best President, he cared about the little guy unlike the other presidents in the past
— So by definition that leaves out the current president since of course this is the present. Now about that Washington and Lincoln…
December 21st, 2009 at 4:43 pmBoy, bravefart is a maroon, even by troll standards.
December 21st, 2009 at 4:43 pmReagan, next to Bush, was the biggest P.O.S. ever voted into office in this country. You could possibly rate him no. 1 as his actual incompetency and right wing fervor led to us being blessed with Bush.
December 21st, 2009 at 4:43 pmHeh. Ronnie Raygun was a senile old B-movie actor, a pretender, reading his lines for his masters.
But I’ll give him one thing: he *was* better than Bush.
And you conservatards OWN George W. Bush forever and ever. Amen.
Be careful what you wish for, suckers.
December 21st, 2009 at 4:43 pmI’m afraid we’ll have to have a little patience, mary lacewing. After all it’s Christmas week and I’m sure all the first team trolls, being good Christianists and all, have the week off to celebrate an ancient pagan solstice ritual repurposed to meet the needs of European Christians.
December 21st, 2009 at 4:43 pmHow come they never wish to discuss Reagan’s stance on terrorism?
December 21st, 2009 at 4:44 pm.
Dear ScaredHeart,
So, Bush not doing a damn thing about Al-CIA-duh pre-9/11 is good?
So, Bush lying to Congress about Yellow Cake was a good thing?
So, Bush unwarrantlessly spying on Americans warrants a thumbs up?
So, MISSION ACCOMPLISHED?
So, politicizing the DOJ is worthy of much lauding.
So, private mercenaries are a good thing?
So, TORTURE, INDEFINITE DETENTION and RENDITION is great?
YOU, sir, are what is better known as an APOLOGIST!
.
December 21st, 2009 at 4:44 pmbraveheart08 says:
Oh Reagan cared more then the present president
About what, I have no idea.
December 21st, 2009 at 4:44 pmbraveheart08 says:
Regan was the best President, he cared about the little guy unlike the other presidents in the past
That’s why he gave all those tax breaks to the rich.
December 21st, 2009 at 4:44 pmbraveheart08 says:
Oh Reagan cared more then the present president
Reagan was one of those Hollywood elites you people are so scared of.
December 21st, 2009 at 4:44 pmWow, they must be running low on trolls back at Troll Central. These are probably the trolls that weren’t selected to play alter boys in the Republican Christmas Pageant…
December 21st, 2009 at 4:44 pmbizarrobrain says:
Come on TP. Rove has been on ONE network
Are you kidding me?
This one is from Fox News dot com
Are you helping me prove my point? Thanks.
December 21st, 2009 at 4:44 pmHerr dubyah = Worst….President…..Ever
Fact
December 21st, 2009 at 4:45 pmSay braveheart08…do you think trees cause pollution like Reagan did?
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They_call_Mr_Tibbs says:
Persia, you know it’s that place over there where they write in squiggles.
Cursive doesn’t count as “squiggles”?
December 21st, 2009 at 4:45 pmYeah. As far as I know we have no troops at all in Persia.
December 21st, 2009 at 4:45 pmNBC and WALL STREET JOURNAL . .
I don’t like the diversity . .
How many members of the military read the Wall Street Journal?
Betcha their families are just ‘over the moon’ about the last decade . .
December 21st, 2009 at 4:45 pmThey_call_Mr_Tibbs says:
Seriously? A right wing troll? And you are making claims about how great the Republicans are?
Is your next sock puppet name going to be MLK?
December 21st, 2009 at 4:46 pm.
#52 Advice,
STFU and wait for 2012…
… THEN we’ll see.
.
December 21st, 2009 at 4:46 pmlivelongandprosper,
December 21st, 2009 at 4:47 pmActually I kinda read what you wrote…wrong due to my eyes being watery cause of my cold but I guess I kinda am helping to prove your point. Rove is on Fox like every week or every other week.
braveheart08 says:
Regan was the best President, he cared about the little guy unlike the other presidents in the past
You really need to stop drinking the kool-aid as look what happen to the jones town people.
we can get a deprogrammer to help but first you have to admitted to yourself that you are part of the cult called the GOP and supporting cast.
Once you have admitted to yourself you will feel really good about your self and see life is good.
Oh ronnie was the start of our long nightmare called trickle down and defaces dont matter.
December 21st, 2009 at 4:47 pmAlright I am out but just once I wanna see these prediction makers stand up and announce that should they be wrong they will be real no shit guys and announce to us all that they were proven completely wrong. Why do I doubt that Expert Advice and They_call_Mr_Tibbs are stand up guys?
December 21st, 2009 at 4:47 pmThese trolls are just too funny. I think it’s an early Christmas gift from troll central.
December 21st, 2009 at 4:47 pmI’m the annoying kind of person who tries to see the silver lining around otherwise dark clouds and it just occurred to me that, if NOTHING else, Bush The Dumber helped put to rest forever the myth that tax cuts to the wealthy will ‘trickle down’ to the lower 95%.
We can now say with utmost certainty that it doesn’t happen.
December 21st, 2009 at 4:48 pmGeorge W. Bush: WORST PRESIDENT IN THE WORLD!!!!
Ronald Reagan: RUNNER UP FOR WORST PRESIDENT IN THE WORLD!!!!
December 21st, 2009 at 4:48 pmWhat the hell is a gubment? Next they will wrap flags all over everything and scream greatest nation of all time. I love these bipolar psychos…
December 21st, 2009 at 4:48 pmI kinda enjoy these freestyle-typer trollery slams, where they gather their most eager recruits and send ‘em over here to experiment with new types of trolling points that everyone else told them would sound stupid. But they’re determined and they want their ideas to get a public airing. Some will sound stupid but some might … ah, who are we kidding? They all sound stupid.
But you really get to see the process, ya know?
December 21st, 2009 at 4:50 pmPersia? Back away from the video games there. Persia hasn’t existed as a country in over 1500 years. And if you think Persia is the birthplace of modern Arabia or Islam, I think you better go back to history class.
December 21st, 2009 at 4:50 pmbizarrobrain says:
livelongandprosper,
Actually I kinda read what you wrote…wrong due to my eyes being watery cause of my cold but I guess I kinda am helping to prove your point. Rove is on Fox like every week or every other week.
Blasted cold! Rest is the best. Try not to read too many troll comments, it just increases the pressure in your head. Get better bizarrobrain.
December 21st, 2009 at 4:50 pmlivelongandprosper,
December 21st, 2009 at 4:52 pmLaughter is the best medicine. And it’s free. Thank you :)
66% said it lost ground on moral values
This one caught my eye.
After all the crowing from the “values voters” on, well, almost anything, it turns out the general feeling is that a conservative-dominated country does not mean a more moral society.
Not that I am surprised or anything.
December 21st, 2009 at 4:52 pmWow Mary, #98,
You really are an optimist!
December 21st, 2009 at 4:53 pmyou have to go all the way back to reagan to find someone so utterly incapable of doing thier job.
December 21st, 2009 at 4:53 pmNot to be pedantic, but I’d say it was “horrifying”. Our response to 9/11 was worse than the attacks, IMO. Our nation went batshit and is still a bit off its axis.
December 21st, 2009 at 4:53 pmBraveheart, this is America. We use English as our primary language to communicate. You clearly have not learned to communicate in English. Your use of English is about as good as the average immigrant. You do not deserve to call yourself an American until you learn to communicate clearly in English.
What did you graduate from, grade school? If you had graduated from High School in 2001, you would have lost six whole years of retirement savings at your lowest earning rate in your lifetime, not much of a loss.
You couldn’t possibly have graduated from College, because you clearly have not passed English 101.
Braveheart08, you are much too stupid to post online. You just humiliate yourself and embarrass America.
December 21st, 2009 at 4:53 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Idiot Thing 1 and Idiot Thing 2,
December 21st, 2009 at 4:55 pmNo matter how much you try to disrupt the thread, it still doesn’t change the fact the MOST believe that the last decade was the WORST in a long long time.
All due to an incompetent bastage that had 2 full terms to fck everything up, unless you were the wealthiest of the wealthiest.
Expert Advice,
December 21st, 2009 at 4:55 pmHere is your gay agenda
spearNmagicHelmet says:
you have to go all the way back to reagan to find someone so utterly incapable of doing thier job.
December 21st, 2009 at 4:53 pm
To be fair, he was well-scrubbed and his hair was always neat.
December 21st, 2009 at 4:56 pmThis is getting better.
What perchance, is the “gay agenda?”
December 21st, 2009 at 4:56 pm.
Bush Administration relied on ‘Al Jazeera decoder’ for 2003 terror alert
By Raw Story
Monday, December 21st, 2009
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December 21st, 2009 at 4:56 pmOops.. LINK
December 21st, 2009 at 4:57 pmhttp://rawstory.com/2009/12/bush-scammed-raising-terror-threat/
111 – hey, dipshit – it is NOT the government’s job to legislate morality.
Why don’t you just drink a big bucket of STFU…?
December 21st, 2009 at 4:58 pmWhat is “inficide?”
December 21st, 2009 at 4:58 pmWhat the hell is the definition of “morally conservative”?
Government control of woman’s rights?
Government mandated discrimination?
I thought conservatives wanted the government to disappear?
December 21st, 2009 at 4:58 pmAn Al Jazeera Decoder – is that like a ring you get out of a cereal box?
December 21st, 2009 at 4:58 pmbraveheart08 says:
I have bi polar because the republicans are manic and the democrats are depressive
No, its because your head is up your butt and it knows it shouldn’t be.
December 21st, 2009 at 4:59 pmbizarrobrain says:
Expert Advice,
Here is your gay agenda
Laughter is the best medicine. That was hilarious.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:00 pmFuc*ing Bush would believe anything. Really, someone could have sold him the Brooklyn Bridge.
Just think of all the money you’d make in tolls.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:00 pmExpert Advice babbles:
[Bush] didn’t do anything to stop the gay agenda.
What is this “gay agenda” I keep hearing about?
Do you get the meeting minutes?
December 21st, 2009 at 5:01 pmWe can hardly blame our trollish buddies for being proud of Ronnie. It isn’t often a puppet gets to be a real President.
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Zooey,
December 21st, 2009 at 5:02 pmHe spelled it wrong (it is infanticide) and it is where someone intentionally kills a baby.
Here’s the rest of the Gay Agenda.
Be careful, people!
December 21st, 2009 at 5:02 pmZooey asks:
What is “inficide?”
The mass destruction and total annihilation of infinity?
That would suck!
December 21st, 2009 at 5:03 pmbizarrobrain says:
Zooey,
He spelled it wrong (it is infanticide) and it is where someone intentionally kills a baby.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:02 pm
I know. I was making fun of the stupid troll!
December 21st, 2009 at 5:04 pmGregor Samsa,
December 21st, 2009 at 5:05 pmI think it’s some crazy idea that conservatives have where there is some liberal overlord (lets call him Darth Fabulous) has some kind of plan to make the future look like some sort of gay Children of Men scenario. In short: they are insane.
Expert Advice,
Bush was either a criminal mastermind of profound proportions or he was DUMB enough to be manipulated by people who feel no remorse for making money off of illegal wars and death.
Since we know his history prior to becoming President we have to go with the Dumbest Presidnet Ever – along with being the worst.
But rest assured, if I need some expert advice (on what, I don’t know). I’ll be sure to ask you.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:05 pmOh, and Expert Advise, how does it feel when the general consensus is that a Republican president failed so miserably in the very same items conservatives care the most about, eg, “moral” values, national security, a national sense of unity, treating others with respect -you know, all the good ole fashioned “traditional” values?
Reality sucks, eh?
December 21st, 2009 at 5:05 pmThe trolls aren’t even trying.
Seriously, just take the holiday break off.
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DRxJ says:
The mass destruction and total annihilation of infinity?
That would suck!
December 21st, 2009 at 5:03 pm
Srsly.
Hmmmm, would wondering how long that would take cause a paradox?
December 21st, 2009 at 5:06 pmI know. I was making fun of the stupid troll!
Haha. I’m sorry. I’m sick, people ask questions and I’ve got Google so it’s something to do.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:06 pmbizarrobrain says:
Haha. I’m sorry. I’m sick, people ask questions and I’ve got Google so it’s something to do.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:06 pm
So you’ve got a case of super-bizarrobrain today.
Feel better soon. :)
December 21st, 2009 at 5:07 pmWonder if the regular trolls are on holiday vacation.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:08 pmThese replacement trolls are really bottom of the barrel.
ps. Bush was incompetent, thats why cheny told him what to do
tony and lido
Zooey,
I think the amount of time it would take to destroy infinity is calculated as pi-squared!
Or is it sqaure-pi?
Or hair pie?
Hell, I dunno.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:09 pmIt’s Poker Night!
G’day, all!
Expert Advice. That is the stuff that managed to get two incompetent clowns elected to the presidency.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:09 pmThey_call_Mr_Tibbs says
December 21st, 2009 at 4:37 pm
Persia, you know it’s that place over there where they write in squiggles. Somewhere east of that strip of land where all the Jews live, and west of where the kangaroos are found. That’s where Osama is hiding.
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So where do you get those mushrooms? They must be good…
By the way, if your criteria for “Persia” are that the people write in “squiggles” and it’s east of Israel and west of Australia, you could be talking about Syria, Jordan, Iraq, Iran, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait, Oman, Yemen, Afghanistan, Pakistan, India, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Nepal, Bhutan, Myanmar, Thailand, Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam, China, North Korea, South Korea, Japan, Mongolia, Taiwan, Malaysia, Singapore, Brunei, or Indonesia.
Are all of these “Persia”? This might come as a surprise to the Iraqis and the Afghans…
December 21st, 2009 at 5:11 pmbizarrobrain says:
In short: they are insane.
I know -I wanted to see what the brain-dead, homophobic troll had to say ;-)
December 21st, 2009 at 5:11 pmZooey, thanks :)
DRxJ,
December 21st, 2009 at 5:11 pmGood luck tonight.
Gimme a fracking break! Bush in the bottom 10? Booolsheeyit! He’ll be in the bottom 5. Actually, I think he makes Nixon look good; Nixon was a weasel and a crook, but he wasn’t a fracking incompetent.
I’m not sure about the Herbert Hoover comparison. Hoover wasn’t an incompetent either, but his response to being blindsided by the ‘29 market crash and then the subsequent bank failures and depression was obviously inept. He seems to have been a true believer in the same sort of economic idiocy that the Shrub thinks is gospel; that the Lords of Wall Street would save everyone (instead of jumping out of windows and finding they couldn’t fly), and that the big banks and the wealthy are our friends. It’s what passes for conventional wisdom among the priveleged.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:11 pmExpert.
What would you do if one of the best teachers in your local High School turned out to be gay?
December 21st, 2009 at 5:13 pmronnie was a drooling, crap in his pants, delusional dimwit for most of his presidency.
and it still shows.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:13 pmI’ll always remember George W. Bush as the first President to have a male hooker lob softball questions to him at press conferences. I’m sure this sort of thing happens only once in a nation’s history.
The Hall of Republican Memes
December 21st, 2009 at 5:14 pmWho liked to make deals with terrorists.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:14 pmWhile Bush was in office, the median household income declined, poverty increased, childhood poverty increased even more [...]
Yeah, those tax cuts sure worked wonders.
One of these years, the idea that “trickle down” economics (aka “voodoo economics”) can kickstart the economy has got to be put to rest for good.
How many times does it have to fail for people to understand this simple concept. I guess Republican voters really are hungry for punishment, after all.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:15 pmPerry,
Bush needed the escort service for whenever Cheneys hand was removed from his ass.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:15 pm136 – I got news for you, ignoramus: it IS normal.
In fact, when you get right down to it, more than 50% of species on this planet aren’t even divided into male/female.
When it comes to sex/reproduction, Mother Nature is quite creative – and She isn’t bounded by your ridiculous “Christian” morality crap, either.
So, why don’t you make a nice New Year’s resolution not to be such a complete moron, ok?
December 21st, 2009 at 5:16 pmExpert Advice says:
It’s no secret that left wing progressives are trying to push homosexuality onto the american public, and label it “normal”.
That is the gay agenda.
Mostly since people are pushing onto us this idea that marriage is a holy and sanctimonious rite of passage that must be held by a man and a woman only. And that it is “un-Christian” of us to view marriage as any other thing.
That is the “anti-gay” agenda.
Luckily, that agenda will never get to the point it almost got to in Uganda.
Take your own “expert advice” and stop pushing your agenda on us.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:16 pmGW is the bottom of the barrel. Buchannon and others were ineffective but no President presided over so much destruction.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:16 pmThe fraud of tax cuts for the wealthy hasn’t sunk in to a great deal of voters – or at least politicians. Not a week goes by that some republican calls for less regulation and more tax cuts for the wealthy and business.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:17 pmExpert Advice says:
It’s no secret that left wing progressives are trying to push homosexuality onto the american public, and label it “normal”.
LOL
It IS normal you dufus. How many progressives have pushed you into homosexuality? Probably as many conservatives that have pushed heterosexuality on you. Maybe your friends think your gay? That would be embarrassing for you wouldn’t it?
Sexuality is NOT a 100 percent heterosexual or homosexual. That’s not how our wonderful brains work. Some people are both. Some are a little of each. Most are one or the other.
You should expand your definition of “normal”.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:17 pm.
Dear Advise #136,
As a gay man, I can say that being gay is normal.
Have you stopped f_cking your dog, yet?
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December 21st, 2009 at 5:17 pmExpert Advice says
December 21st, 2009 at 5:06 pm
It’s no secret that left wing progressives are trying to push homosexuality onto the american public, and label it “normal”.
That is the gay agenda.
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Darn, the troll figured it out! See — as soon as we manage to label homosexuality as “normal”, we’re going to claim that people who are left-handed are “normal” (we’ve already gotten started on that one — three out of the past four presidents have been left-handed). Then we’re going to insist that people with green eyes be considered “normal”. And after that, we’re going to claim that people with red hair are “normal”.
This is just a heads-up, so the trolls can get their arguments against all these people ready.
By the way, does the troll realize that nobody’s going to require that he be gay? Or left-handed? Or have green eyes or red hair? Unless he’s any of these things already?
December 21st, 2009 at 5:17 pmRich H says:
Wow Mary, #98,
You really are an optimist!
It’s a pathological condition. I’ll try not to expose you to it too much. I’ve heard it can be contagious and can cause nausea.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:18 pmRich H says:
Expert.
What would you do if one of the best teachers in your local High School turned out to be gay?
December 21st, 2009 at 5:13 pm
He’d go down on him.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:18 pmAnd here, sweetheart: learn something.
Evolution’s Rainbow
You’re welcome.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:19 pmAccording to the poll, a combined 58% said the decade was either “awful” or “not so good,” 29% said it was fair, and just 12% said they stick their hands in fans for fun.
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Leftside Annie says:
136 – I got news for you, ignoramus: it IS normal.
I was going to reply to Freakshow, but you took care of him rather nicely ;-)
December 21st, 2009 at 5:20 pm.
#164,
Tell that to infertile couples.
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December 21st, 2009 at 5:21 pmExpert,
What would you do if your local representative was gay? How would you feel being represented by a gay person?
December 21st, 2009 at 5:22 pmI don’t know what he is worried about. We aren’t going to drag him out of the closet.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:22 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Expert Advice,
December 21st, 2009 at 5:23 pmDo you really want to play the “homosexuality is un-natural card? You should tell the animals that.
Expert Advice says:
If homosexuality was normal, they would be able to reproduce when they reach adulthood.
Reproduction is highly over rated. Any idiot can reproduce. Just ask your parents.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:23 pmExpert Advice says:
If homosexuality was normal, they would be able to reproduce when they reach adulthood.
So women who are not able to conceive aren’t ‘normal’ either? You’re really whittling down the pool of normal people over there!
December 21st, 2009 at 5:23 pmWell, it seems the funny and stupid trolls have disappeared. Now it seems like we’re just stuck with the homophobic one.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:24 pmBush learned a lot from Nixon: don’t get caught. Nixon got caught, Bush didn’t. In that way I have to say Bush was worse than Nixon.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:24 pmExpert Advice says:
If homosexuality was normal, they would be able to reproduce when they reach adulthood.
What’s up with this obsession with normality anyways? Who says that we have to have laws to make people “normal?”
December 21st, 2009 at 5:24 pmbraveheart08 says:
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Regan was the best President, he cared about the little guy unlike the other presidents in the past
Cared so much that he was willing to pee on them and call it the rain of life…
December 21st, 2009 at 5:24 pmHeterosexuals reproduce before reaching adult status. I guess that’s not normal either.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:24 pmExpert Advice says
December 21st, 2009 at 5:20 pm
If homosexuality was normal, they would be able to reproduce when they reach adulthood.
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So people are only normal if they can reproduce? I’m a post-menopausal woman — I guess that lets me out of your somewhat bizarre definition.
Seriously, do small children laugh at you when you speak? Your ignorance is really quite funny.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:25 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Wiz,
Bush got caught plenty. The problem is, what are we going to do about it?
December 21st, 2009 at 5:25 pmExpert Advice says:
Wow, only a progressive would compare homosexuality to being left handed. I hope that’s a troll.
You’re right. A great percent of the population is gay (around 10% last I looked) than is left-handed (7-8%) so I guess that means that being gay is more ‘normal’ than being left-handed.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:26 pmExpert Advice jabbers:
If homosexuality was normal, they would be able to reproduce when they reach adulthood.
They can, and they do
Duh.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:26 pmIf having god speak to you, like Bush and Oral, is normal, then why do we treat schizophrenia with antipsychotic medication?
December 21st, 2009 at 5:26 pmlivelongandprosper says:
Expert Advice says:
It’s no secret that left wing progressives are trying to push homosexuality onto the american public, and label it “normal”.
Preach it, my man! See as a spy who has infiltrated TEH HOMO-SEX-YOU-ALL AGENDA, I have seen the devastation first-hand and commend your efforts to heal everyone of this devastating virus. Once you are converted, your soul slowly decays until you become a zombie whose only interests are TEH BUTT SECHS…So how about you and I play…oh oops…didn’t mean to scare you…it’s just the decay talking there…
December 21st, 2009 at 5:27 pm.
#169,
… But it’s NOT making obscene comparisons when YOU do it, YES?
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December 21st, 2009 at 5:27 pmposting about being normal makes you gay.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:28 pmVirtual Pebble @ 146,
I don’t think you are being fair. The Bush Legacy has given us “American Exceptionalism”. We should also keep in mind that these polls are liberal and the census figures are rigged by the Democrats to make the Republicans look bad. GW kept us safe for 8 years and the economy was the best it could be considering all the undermining the liberals did to GW.
The “Bush Legacy” will be view as brilliant in years to come. We will thank the stars we had this great “Warrior President”, GW Bush. Truly a visionary patriot ahead of his time.
Historical Rewrite of the “Principled Republicans”.
shape of things to come, flight
December 21st, 2009 at 5:28 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Hey, Mary, I’m left handed. But I’ve never been accussed of being “normal” so maybe your right.
Oh wait, I’m abidexterous, shi*, I guess I’m nowhere near normal.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:30 pmSpeaking of teh gay (and why is that?), OT: Mexico City has legalized gay marriage.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:30 pmExpert Advice says:
I would like to see an unbiased source that says 10% of the world is homosexual. Not that I don’t believe that, since homosexuality is on the rise now that it is mainstream in the liberal owned media.
They shouldn’t call it the liberal media, they should call it TEH HOMO LIBRUL MEDIA…after all they spread THE HOMO VIRUS through the airwaves…Somehow Fox News does not have this effect. Quick, if you want to save everyone, tell them to watch TEH FOX NEWS…
December 21st, 2009 at 5:30 pmExpert Advice @ 164,
Simply put, why is it any skin off your a&& if a person is gay. Really, who died and left you in charge!
just saying, flight
December 21st, 2009 at 5:31 pm.
Dear Expert,
This thread is about G.WORST Bush…
… NOT about your fear of teh gays.
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December 21st, 2009 at 5:31 pmDecember 21st, 2009 at 5:31 pm
USCKitty,
December 21st, 2009 at 5:32 pmYou forgot the “Praisssse Teh Lord!” part.
So we have expert advice that fertility is the standard for humanity. If you can’t breed, what good are you?
December 21st, 2009 at 5:32 pmI have to take back the part about the stupid trolls leaving. I think I just read something refering to “the liberal media.”
December 21st, 2009 at 5:33 pmLevi, does that mean we can’t tweek the noses of the nonbelievers in passing? Just for fun?
December 21st, 2009 at 5:33 pmUSCKitty,
You forgot the “Praisssse Teh Lord!” part.
See my mind has decayed because of TEH HOMO VIRUS…Blame the virus!
December 21st, 2009 at 5:33 pmExpert Advice says:
I would like to see an unbiased source that says 10% of the world is homosexual. Not that I don’t believe that, since homosexuality is on the rise now that it is mainstream in the liberal owned media.
It’d like to see an unbiased source that says homosexuality is on the rise now–rather than having been a constant for centuries. Maybe it just looks that way to you because people have less reason to hide their sexuality these days. Or maybe you’re just afraid.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:33 pmExpert Advice babbles:
Animals also eat their young and lay in their own feces, should we do that too? Retard.
If “natural” is a bad thing, then we shouldn’t do anything that is “normal” -and since being gay is not “normal” (per your post) then being gay is ok.
And if “natural” is good, then it’s also ok to be gay.
Either way, you just painted yourself in a corner.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:34 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Hoodathunk says:
I think you just gave some pro-life organization it’s new motto.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:34 pmflight says:
I don’t think you are being fair. The Bush Legacy has given us “American Exceptionalism”.
This is the stupidest term they’ve come out with lately. Apparently it’s taken to mean it doesn’t matter how low our quality-of-life rankings are, how low our health care rankings are, or how much we’re paying for it. Doesn’t matter how poorly the economy responds to tax cuts for the rich, doesn’t matter how much the middle class is shrinking or how many people are becoming unemployed and homeless. Just ignore all of the objective measurable attributes that say we’ve been on the wrong track, we’re still the greatest at everything anyway! Just because we’re us! We’re “exceptional!”
This reminds me strongly of the Soviet Union’s policy of criminalizing those who would admit that the country ever failed at anything, or that they could do better. That didn’t work out either.
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Expert Advice says:
since homosexuality is on the rise now that it is mainstream in the liberal owned media.
Conservatives own most of the media.
So you’re saying that more people are choosing to be gay? When did you choose to be straight, and how hard is that choice for you to maintain?
December 21st, 2009 at 5:35 pmShit I step out and the “gay agenda” appears. Damn what will be next? The imaginary War on Christmas?
December 21st, 2009 at 5:35 pmCan the super secret Al Jaseera decoder ring decode the gay sub-signal broadcast 24/7 by the liberal media?
December 21st, 2009 at 5:35 pmExpert Advice says:
Flight, I am not comfortable around gays. The majority of them are mental nutcases and cannot control themselves in social situations. I also do not want children growing up with 2 dads or 2 mothers.
I’m not comfortable around stupid bigots. Please go away.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:36 pmFlight, I am not comfortable around gays. The majority of them are mental nutcases and cannot control themselves in social situations.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:36 pm—
Care to back this up? Oh and did you ever answer the are you a stand up guy question?
I also do not want children growing up with 2 dads or 2 mothers.
Much better to be in an abusive heterosexual family, right.
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Expert Advice babbles:
I also do not want children growing up with 2 dads or 2 mothers.
Maybe you should mind your own bloody business, Mr. Peeping Tom.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:37 pmfrom ‘Pete’ during a debate about the whether ‘10% of the population is gay’ is accurate:
Not sure, but I know for a fact the percentage goes up on weekends after happy hour.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:37 pmThe majority of them are mental nutcases and cannot control themselves in social situations.
Translation: he once was propositioned at a party, and now he hates all gays.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:38 pm.
#202,
Your problem.
And besides, your “diagnosis” of their mental acuity really is a testament to irony. GO F_CK YOURSELF! Who are you to authorize who can and can not have children?
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December 21st, 2009 at 5:38 pmSTORM says:
Good, that tells us that liberal policies never work regardless of what side of the isle they come from.
Get a napkin around your chin, you’re drooling again.
And, dopey, it’s “aisle”. Unless you live on an island, of course.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:38 pmSTORM says:
Good, that tells us that liberal policies never work regardless of what side of the isle they come from.
You forgot to mention that Bush was TEH HOMO-SEX-YOU-ALL LIBRUL MOLE sent by TEH HOMO OVERLORDS to “prove” that “conservatism failed…”
December 21st, 2009 at 5:38 pmSTORM says:
Good, that tells us that liberal policies never work regardless of what side of the isle they come from.
Especially those liberal tax cuts! Damn those liberals!
December 21st, 2009 at 5:39 pmNow now America is known for some insanity. Look backward as the GOP did the same things during FDR days. Yes the GOP did the spin/blame/lies and fought tooth and deal to make sure FDR’s New Deal and Social Security failed. Americans stepped up to support the President’s effords. We see even today the then young/unborn yet GOP and their supporters are benefitting from the FDR Plan. People often complain about having relatives that are wing nuts. We do know when Leaders work against the interest of Americans it will fail.
Americans can’t blame BushCheney/GOP/Dems for all the corrupt and mess done over our History making 8 years. We the American people took our eye off the ball and allowed this wackos to run wild. We allowed two elections to be stolen by corruption and we did nothing about it. We allowed the Media/Press to continue to spread propaganda. We knew Bush/Cheney had lied and did nothing. We watched with proof from our soldiers the torture of Foreign innocent men/woman/children. We have to take some responsiblity and learn to never allow it to happen again. We see President Obama answering to the American people which is something that hasn’t happen in 8 years. We see Teabagger marching blindly to the lies by the GOP. Our country has struggled with the ignorant/uneducated/corrupt/Mafia since the beginning. Just think of how far we’ve come in 233 years while fighting for a better country. Law Makers today would still not slaves free, Equality for all, Woman’s Rights, Equal Rights and other Bills that has made our country great. We here the GOP spill racism/hate as we should minority soldiers putting their lives on the line for all Americans. Bodies of our dead soldiers come home in all colors while some Americans/TV host/Law Makers spread racism and hate for their supporters to follow.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:39 pmI am not comfortable around gays. The majority of them are mental nutcases and cannot control themselves in social situations
This from the clown who babbles about how bad the gays are on a public blog? Tell me, Expert, when was the last time you were questioned in public about your sexual beliefs? And when was the only time you heard teh gay rant about your sexual preferences in public?
December 21st, 2009 at 5:39 pmFlight, “I am not comfortable around gays. The majority of them are mental nutcases and cannot control themselves in social situations.”
That’s incredible. I’ve never known anyone like that. Well, unless you count republicans who couldn’t control their racism before and after Obama got elected.
I can’t tell you how surprised I was to hear so many n*** jokes from people I would have considered “normal” prior to the election.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:39 pmAnd they weren’t even counting you.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:39 pmand he did such a great job in fooling you trolls for eight long years that he was a conservative when he was TEH HOMO LIBRUL all along…Funny how slow you conservatives are…it only took approval ratings in the 20%s and McCain’s loss to President Obama to make you see the light…but it’s too late. TEH HOMO OVERLORDS are taking over…
December 21st, 2009 at 5:40 pmHere we see another fascist spreading his hatred towards drug users. John Harwood of CNBC did the same thing covered on another thread today.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:41 pmExpert Advice:
December 21st, 2009 at 5:41 pmWhat exactly are you an expert on? So about this gay thing… What do you think the root causes of this gender preference thing are?
barfly,
I’d say he’s gay, propositioned someone and was turned down.
In his shame, he’s turned against himself.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:41 pmNot sure, but I know for a fact the percentage goes up on weekends after happy hour.
And in airport washrooms.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:42 pmExpert Advice says:
Flight, I am not comfortable around gays.
Having a hard time trusting yourself around them? Worried they could “convert” you?
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Expert Advice says:
I also do not want children growing up with 2 dads or 2 mothers.
Why not? I don’t want children being raised by evil bigots, I don’t have the right to prevent it.
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STORM says:
Good, that tells us that liberal policies never work regardless of what side of the isle they come from.
Raise your hands, who ever heard one conservative say a word against any of Bush’s policies or decisions prior to 2008, when the consequences of those decisions all came crashing down around us?
*crickets chirping*
Yeah, that’s what I thought too.
Conservative when convenient.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:43 pmBush is no conservative, he accidently furthered the conservative agenda, of tax cuts, and shoveling money to faith-based institutions – he must be a communist!
December 21st, 2009 at 5:43 pmWell I certainly know that my retirement funds in the market grew like gangbusters under Clinton, but then lost 30% under Bush. Under Obama, they have taken back 20% in just the last year.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:44 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Raise your hands, who ever heard one conservative say a word against any of Bush’s policies or decisions prior to 2008,
Buckley was the only one – and they treated him like dirt, because of it.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:47 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
So Expert Advice is the newest incarnation of that dipshit I have belittle oh so many times? Dude did you ever get that skank the dental work she needs?
December 21st, 2009 at 5:47 pmExpert Advice says:
Dbadass, conservatism is a mental disorder.
Fixed it for you. Gratis.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:48 pmWhat happens to homosexuals when they reach adulthood that prevents them from reproducing? Please provide a link.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:48 pmIt is amazing how many right-wing homophobes are experts on homosexuality. I wonder how they come by their expertize.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:48 pmMapleStreet says:
Well I certainly know that my retirement funds in the market grew like gangbusters under Clinton, but then lost 30% under Bush. Under Obama, they have taken back 20% in just the last year.
Yeah, but mathematics has a known liberal bias.
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Expert Advice says:
Dbadass, homosexuality is a mental disorder
[CITATION FCUKING NEEDED]
December 21st, 2009 at 5:48 pmWhat’s your point STORM?
December 21st, 2009 at 5:49 pmStorm, that was a bit of TMI. If you have a thing for dead ducks, talk to your therapist.
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STORM says:
Animals rape and practice Necrophilia.
And that’s relevent to this thread because… why?
December 21st, 2009 at 5:49 pmSTORM says:
Animals rape and practice Necrophilia. See the link below
Yep, the notion that there’s such a thing as “natural” sexuality is a myth. Thanks for demonstrating that.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:50 pmSo, both trolls have taken the position that nature is unnatural.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:50 pmSoon George W. Bush will be with his MASTER Satan.
And TRAITOR Ronnie Reagan.
As to his SUPPORTERS,
may God have mercy on your soul, you supporters of EVIL.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:50 pmExpert Advice says:
December 21st, 2009 at 5:51 pmDbadass, homosexuality is a mental disorder And I know because my Xtian therapist told me so and I hate myself because of it.
I would rate the Bush Years as – The most horrid years of my life at 56 years old.
Before Bush – Retirement looking good 900K in properties, 400K in 401K was making with my wife 160K a year.
After Bush – Retirement not possible, lost my home, 1 rental, 401K wiped out, living in one of my two remaining rentals, just got laid off after 25 years at the same job, which makes my wife the bread winner, no health insurance, everything went to complete crap because of Bush policies, I totally hate the scumbag criminal fck.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:51 pmSTORM says:
Animals rape and practice Necrophilia. See the link below
YEAH PREACH IT STORMY! After all, that is the TRUE meaning of TEH HOMO AGENDA…
December 21st, 2009 at 5:51 pmExpert Advice says:
Wow, only a progressive would compare homosexuality to being left handed. I hope that’s a troll.
Perhaps, EA, I can remind you that your soul brothers of the Inquisition back in the Middle Ages thought left-handed people were witches and/or possessed by demons. That’s where the word ’sinister’ came from, you know; ’sin’ means left.
Obviously, you and your mentally stunted brethren haven’t changed much in the last 800 or so years…
December 21st, 2009 at 5:52 pmshoeless,
Trolls today:
nature is unnatural, conservatism is good, bush was the greatest, and don’t look at me I’m not gay!
December 21st, 2009 at 5:52 pmI think they are trying to tell us that liberals are causing abnormal behavior in animals.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:52 pmI guess it’s easier to post anti-gay rhetoric, than to debate how bad a president Bush was.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:52 pmYou only get punished if you fail to tweak their noses.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:53 pmSTORM says:
Looks like we have a good case to legalize this type of behavior. If we apply the liberal logic of course.
Interesting point here. No matter how many times we say it, conservatives are congenitally incapable of understanding the concept of “consenting adults.” To them, sex has to be either extremely restricted to the kind that Jehovah approves of, or… anything’s on the table. No matter how many times we point out that sexual relations between consenting adults harms no one, they still have to throw all of their suppressed fantasies into the debate. It’s a concept that they simply cannot grasp.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:54 pmExpert Advice
December 21st, 2009 at 5:54 pmAh the d is lowercase. So about this mental disorder thing. Are you trained in this field? I mean were did you come by this because the thing is that is not the conventional wisdom of real experts in the field and not idiotic attention seeking nobodies on internet sites… Now would you like to discuss the hormone imbalance hypothesis or something like that or can I assume that you are ill equippedf to discuss complex issues
Bush and Cheney were (and ARE)
TRAITORS agains the USA.
And EVIL motherfers, no different than the Saudis, Osama, or Saddam.
Their buddies…
December 21st, 2009 at 5:55 pmBuckie,
I hope that’s not all true. We’re in the same boat. Keep the chin up and try to have a good holiday.
Seriously. Try to relax, this may be the last year I spend in my home too. I’m going to try to make the best of it.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:55 pmWho cares what you want? You are a bigot. What you want means nothing to civilized humans.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:55 pmC’mon Stormy, you must have some thoughts on why Bush’s unconservatism brought about the marginalization of the conservative movement.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:55 pm.
Dear Xpert Advice,
You are an Expert Homophobe that has no credability to Advise anyone on anything. You, sir, are no more an expert on anything than Brownie was an expeert on FEMA.
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December 21st, 2009 at 5:56 pmOr is this “Got Nothing Monday,” at Conservative Troll Central?
December 21st, 2009 at 5:57 pmPUDDLY: Looks like we have a good case to legalize this type of behavior. If we apply the liberal logic of course.
Indeed. Because ducks are people, apparently.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:57 pmrighties’ understanding of the world is right on par with what one would expect of medieval village-dwellers.
serf’s up, righties!!
season’s greetings!
December 21st, 2009 at 5:57 pmBush is the worst President in history for a lot of reasons. The first reason he is the worst is Dick Cheney, allowing Cheney to pick himself for VP.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:58 pmThere is a certain sadness in these trolls who hate themselves and ask us to join in. Personally I will feel sorry for them for their lack of self awareness and their desire to punish themselves. I can see their fear and self contempt and say find help. Whether you have gay tendencies, whether you were abused as a child and are incapable of understanding that was then, you are still human beings. If you can ever choose to be.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:58 pmYes Rich H, it’s all true…but my wife and I are hard working people and we have always seen our way through, it’s going to be tough because there are absolutely NO JOBS in animation and effects right now in Seattle, NONE, NADA…I just hope I can land a few freelance gigs now and then.
And I don’t know of anyone here employeed at the moment in this field.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:59 pmInteresting concept Barfly,
The troll would rather identify himself as a homophobe than defend the policies of Bush.
I’m not sure what that says – other than that’s sick.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:59 pmbraveheart08 says
December 21st, 2009 at 4:24 pm
Things use to be Good when Reagan was in but Bush is just as greedy as any other Democrat, you liberals need to look at yourselves more closely!
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I’m assuming that by “greedy”, you mean “he spends a lot of money”?
If you’re going to use that as your measure of greatness, you need to take a closer look at what happened to the national debt when Reagan was President.
I’ll make it easy for you:
http://911review.org/Media/National_Debt.html
Notice what happened to the national debt during the Reagan-Bush years, during the Clinton administration, and then again during the reign of Dubya.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:59 pmbarfly,
I can’t wait for “Got Nothing TWO’s-day!”
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December 21st, 2009 at 6:00 pmLeftside Annie says:
Obviously, you and your mentally stunted brethren haven’t changed much in the last 800 or so years…
Evil has always been among us. The form it takes may use different catchphrases and wear different clothes today, but its aim is pretty much the same now as ever: vilify the “other,” divide the populace, instill fear, and incite violence.
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Wiz says:
Bush is the worst President in history for a lot of reasons. The first reason he is the worst is Dick Cheney, allowing Cheney to pick himself for VP.
Anybody who would self-select, for any claimed reason, should be disqualified by their obvious lust for power alone.
December 21st, 2009 at 6:00 pmGood luck Buckie,
Keep us posted. I’ll be wishing you full employment (at a good job) for next year.
I’ll be wishing we’re able to hold onto our home for myself.
How selfish of me.
December 21st, 2009 at 6:02 pmSeems to me conservatives like to draw a very squiggly line around what is “normal” to define it, and exclude any and all things they do not like personally.
Well, sorry, that ain’t the way the world works.
December 21st, 2009 at 6:03 pmLevi the Oracle says
December 21st, 2009 at 5:55 pm
Who cares what you want? You are a bigot. What you want means nothing to civilized humans.
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Fortunately, bigots such as this troll can be marginalized as long as they insist upon putting their ignorance and hatred front and center in the spotlight.
What’s really lost on their kind is that gay couples probably make better parents, on average, than straight couples. Why? Because gay couples have very few unwanted, unplanned pregnancies. In order to have a child, they have to really, really want one, and be prepared to jump through the equivalent of flaming hoops to get one.
And before straight parents jump on me — please note that I said “on average”. There are many, many excellent straight parents, and I don’t mean to disparage them.
December 21st, 2009 at 6:07 pmExpert Advice says:
Flight, I am not comfortable around gays. The majority of them are mental nutcases and cannot control themselves in social situations. I also do not want children growing up with 2 dads or 2 mothers.
So you think it’s just fine and dandy that I grew up with a drunken mother and a stepfather who molested me and regularly chained my brother to his bed…? He also beat the crap out of both of us with whatever he could grab.
I would have given ANYTHING for even ONE loving parent – gay or not. And I’m sure that the thousands of other abused and neglected children in this country feel the same way.
You truly are a sick, bigoted, intolerant sewer of stupidity, EA.
December 21st, 2009 at 6:09 pmmissmolly, you nailed it pretty well. And the gay fearing trolls seem to be the ones who can’t get a dance at prom. From either wallflower gender.
December 21st, 2009 at 6:11 pmLeftside Annie,
Reading that was tough. My heart goes out to you.
December 21st, 2009 at 6:13 pmLeftside Annie says:
I’m sorry you grew up with that and very proud and happy you stand for the end of it.
December 21st, 2009 at 6:14 pmI wonder what George W. Bush is up to these days.
Doesn’t come out in public much.
Maybe he’s following through on his “Bin Laden, get ‘em dead or alive” vow to the American people and is working hard on that day and night since leaving office……
or maybe he’s working on getting to the bottom of those anthrax attacks that took place while he was in office….
…..or maybe he’s sitting at home in a drunken stupor.
December 21st, 2009 at 6:14 pmDrunken or not, I’m sure it’s a stupor.
December 21st, 2009 at 6:15 pmExpert Advice says:
I also do not want children growing up with 2 dads or 2 mothers.
December 21st, 2009 at 5:34 pm
Right, abortion is better.
December 21st, 2009 at 6:24 pm275 and 276 – thanks. I didn’t mean that as a bid for sympathy; it was what it was, I survived and it’s over. And believe me, I’m proud and happy that I’m standing, too. I’m gainfully employed, I don’t do drugs, I’m well-adjusted, and I developed plenty of empathy for other human beings – unlike these evil neocon “Christian” bastards busily passing judgment on their fellow humans…
My little brother didn’t fare as well; he has been on drugs and in-and-out of prison for years. Poor guy.
But, goddamn!! Moronic sanctimonious prating bigots like EA REALLY piss me off.
December 21st, 2009 at 6:29 pmLeftside Annie, it sounds like you could teach those right wing hypocrites something about pulling yourself up by your bootstraps.
You have lots of fans around here and those morons really piss me off too.
December 21st, 2009 at 6:54 pmHey, Shayne – thank you for your kind words. I like you, too. And the same goes for all my fellow insects here. You guys help keep me sane in a very mad world.
Cheers! And a pox on all trolls!
~A
December 21st, 2009 at 7:19 pmsays:
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Expert Advice says:
Flight, I am not comfortable around gays. The majority of them are mental nutcases and cannot control themselves in social situations. I also do not want children growing up with 2 dads or 2 mothers.
So you think it’s just fine and dandy that I grew up with a drunken mother and a stepfather who molested me and regularly chained my brother to his bed…? He also beat the crap out of both of us with whatever he could grab.
I would have given ANYTHING for even ONE loving parent – gay or not. And I’m sure that the thousands of other abused and neglected children in this country feel the same way.
You truly are a sick, bigoted, intolerant sewer of stupidity, EA
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Leftside Annie @ 273,
My comment to Expert Advice was tongue and cheek. I am humbled that in a small way it led to your wonderful comment. You are a real class act in my book and thank you for sharing your struggle.
You have given a perfect example of the importance of commitment between two people, gay or heterosexual. How could commitment between two people be anything but a positive influence on the society? Your painful testimony about lack of commitment does more to prove this point than any words of mine.
The homophobia exhibited by Expert Advice is a positive influence on society?
You have proven the endurance of the human spirit, Leftside Annie.
humbly, flight
December 21st, 2009 at 10:13 pmBush should be hogtied with that mission accomplished banner and thrown in a prison cell. Just seeing a picture of him or listening to him mangle the english language makes me want to throw up. I hate the ignorant fck.
December 21st, 2009 at 10:20 pmBut the mission was accomplished. There was even a huge banner to proclaim it. So how could we have “lost ground” in so many different areas. Oh, that’s right, it was a false prophet making those claims.
Not mentioned in the lost ground arena was the 8 budget disasters Bush presided over.
December 21st, 2009 at 10:31 pm283 – Flight, thank you so much for your kind – your very kind – words. I like to think that perhaps my experiences have enabled me to make a small difference *somewhere* in this world. If that’s the case, then it will have all been worthwhile.
xoxo
~A
December 21st, 2009 at 10:34 pmbraveheart08/Expert Advice/STORM says:
i am assuming that if you aren’t all the same person you are all the same type of person. Obviously you have a small tent in your pants for reagan and according to you thats not natural. what would be natural would be to admit to yourselves that indeed you do like men and then start contibuting to fixing up the problems your boy bush created.
i named my son Lincoln after the man who freed the slaves, he would only be seen as a tyrant by those who felt that slavery should still exist.
bush/cheney=worst president ever
December 21st, 2009 at 11:08 pmCaption: “This is my Presidentin’ thumb. I just sit on this here and everythin’ goes just fine and dandy.”
December 21st, 2009 at 11:14 pmWhile Bush was in office, the median household income declined, poverty increased, childhood poverty increased even more, and the number of Americans without health insurance spiked.
- 288 comments.. still waiting for the argument that says this isn’t the case -
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:36 amWhat Bush/Cheney got away with is what infuriates me. They trashed the notion of equal justice under law among many other things. The Bush presidency was like an open sore and I don’t think there’s much that can heal this open sore. Except for some justice and that’s not going to happen anytime soon.
December 22nd, 2009 at 2:04 amRE: Purple State @ 135:
But how are they going to be able to afford their PBR and meth for the holidays without their $.05/post?
December 22nd, 2009 at 3:43 amRe: bizarrobrain:
Do get over your bug soon. If it’s available where you’re at, get you some pau d’arco tincture. It knocks out both bacteria and viruses.
I’ve been using it successfully for about a year; ever since I found out about it. You can probably order it online too.
December 22nd, 2009 at 4:04 amRE: missmolly @ 143:
Not to be a quibbler, but Vietnam actually uses the same alphabet that we do; with diacritical marks for specific sounds.
December 22nd, 2009 at 4:09 amRe: Leftside Annie:
Tears came to my eyes after hearing your story. If you want it, I will send you energy to try to make it as much better as I can.
Goddess bless you.
December 22nd, 2009 at 5:11 amAs per Barbara Ehrenreich, “The Worst Years Of Our Lives”?
December 22nd, 2009 at 7:20 amT.H.E.Cat,
December 22nd, 2009 at 10:08 amThank you for both the good tidings and the good advice. I do believe that the health food store down the block might sell it. I hope it works…this is just a winter thing for me, I really hate the cold but the wife loves it. Happy holidays by the way :)
The Bush years: America’s lost decade.
December 22nd, 2009 at 12:10 pmThe Bush years A wonderful time for the Military.
December 22nd, 2009 at 3:46 pmThank you, T.H.E.Cat – please do. And I’m sure it will come back to you. Blessings of the season to you.
xoxo
December 22nd, 2009 at 3:54 pm~A
soldier_girl says:
The Bush years A wonderful time for the Military.
Military Industrial Complex, yup.
Soldiers, no.
Bush and Rummy short-changed them on armor and supplies.
They both need to be dealt with as the TRAITORS they are.
December 22nd, 2009 at 7:22 pmSoldier Girl one hell of a crackwhore
December 23rd, 2009 at 12:19 amThank you for your sharing.!
December 27th, 2009 at 12:27 am