Hannity: Snow Storms ‘Seem To Contradict Al Gore’s Hysterical Global Warming Theories’
Hannity: Snow Storms ‘Seem To Contradict Al Gore’s Hysterical Global Warming Theories’
Last night on his Fox News show, Sean Hannity claimed that the recent spate of winter snow storms in the Washington, D.C. region clearly means that the planet isn’t warming. He then attacked Vice President Gore, calling his anti-global warming advocacy “hysterical”:
HANNITY: And tonight’s “Meltdown” is brought to you by the D.C. snow storm, you know, the storm that dumped about two feet of snow on the Washington area over the weekend causing thousands of power outages and keeping many people home from work today. And it’s the most severe winter storm in years, which would seem to contradict Al Gore’s hysterical global warming theories. [...]
Pretty unbelievable. I bet the snow even kept Al Gore’s jet from taking off.
Watch it:
Because of the recent snow storms in the Northeast, many conservatives like Hannity have taken the opportunity to take cheap shots at Gore. Sen. Jim Inhofe (R-OK) and his family mocked the former Vice President by building an igloo on the National Mall and calling it “Al Gore’s new home.” And Sen. Jim DeMint (R-SC) joined in as well, tweeting today that, “It’s going to keep snowing in DC until Al Gore cries ‘uncle.’”
As the Wonk Room’s Brad Johnson has explained, “winter snows do not invalidate the reality that the planet just experienced the hottest decade on record. Scientists have been warning for decades that global warming would increase the severity of winter storms.” And a recent National Wildlife Federation report has found that winter storms are getting fiercer even as the season gets warmer.
Climate expert Dr. Jeff Masters notes, “It’s not hard at all to get temperatures cold enough for snow in a world experiencing global warming. … Global warming theory predicts that global precipitation will increase, and that heavy precipitation events…will also increase,” he said, adding that this “occurs because as the climate warms, evaporation of moisture from the oceans increases, resulting in more water vapor in the air.” Indeed, the IPCC has said that atmospheric moisture has increased 5 percent over the last century.
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February 9th, 2010 at 8:13 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Sean Hannity’s “scientific concept = guy who used to be VP” theory is about the fruitiest thing I’ve ever heard.
What next, Sean Hannity – Holocaust Denialism?
February 9th, 2010 at 8:16 pmGlobal warming theory predicts that global precipitation will increase, and that heavy precipitation events…will also increase,” he said, adding that this “occurs because as the climate warms, evaporation of moisture from the oceans increases, resulting in more water vapor in the air.”
Very clear and concise — but trollkind will still fail to understand it, because it’s cold in winter.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:16 pmTold ya…
February 9th, 2010 at 8:17 pmTim Vaculik
February 9th, 2010 at 8:17 pmWhy is it that the Catholic Church disagrees with your weird attempt to discount climate science by virtue of a snowstorm?
Tim Vaculik says:
Do you have any proof from the reality based universe to backup the claim.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:18 pmAre you aware that the first decade of the 21st century was the warmest one ever documented since records of been kept?
Don’t the icecaps get some of the least snow due to frigid temperatures? I think I recall seeing that the closer you get to freezing, the more possibility of snow falling, and that the probability of snow lessens as the temperature falls.
In other words, slightly warmer temperatures produces higher probabilities of a heavier snowfall? Or something like that?
February 9th, 2010 at 8:19 pmIncreased precipitation is a sign of global warming.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:19 pmsimple indeed, mr. john.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:19 pmHi Big John.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:20 pmAt this time I would like to point out that I think you are a lame ass pretender and that you are here in an insincere attempt to be a childish annoyance and that is all.
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Purple State is sponsored by GlaxoSmithKline says:
In other words, slightly warmer temperatures produces higher probabilities of a heavier snowfall? Or something like that?
In frigid temps, it either doesn’t snow or the snow is very fine and “dusty.” It’s often true that “it has to warm up to snow.”
February 9th, 2010 at 8:22 pmTim Vaculik:
February 9th, 2010 at 8:22 pmWhy is there lead in fish?
(evidently, tim’s been boning up by watching some discovery channel…)
February 9th, 2010 at 8:22 pmSo NASA no longer has the “right stuff” I suppose…
February 9th, 2010 at 8:23 pmFact-free Timmeh. *yawn*
February 9th, 2010 at 8:24 pm“the earth is one of 9 planets (or 8 planets and one pseudo-planet) that orbits our “star”, called “the sun”"
gosh – thanks tim.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:24 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
“Sean Hannity claimed that the recent spate of winter snow storms in the Washington, D.C. region clearly means that the planet isn’t warming.”
February 9th, 2010 at 8:24 pmOnly if you are a totally ignorant moron like Hannity. And isn’t it just more proof of the right-wing propaganda at Fox that it’s Gore they dishonestly attack for this– not the scientists around the globe who agree with Gore? Including the fact that climate change/global warming will result in much more severe winter storms? Liar Hannity missed that, did he?
And did lying, stupid Hannity miss the news in the last day or two that the ice packs are disappearing at an alarming rate, much faster than originally predicted?
Hannity is a lying, Repub propaganda-spewing fool. And isn’t it completely revolting that lying, stupid, ignorant, hateful, racist idiots like Hannity can be paid millions to spout their drivel & hatred? Something is very wrong with the media in the U.S., and the corporations – Fox being the worst- that not only allow this sort of garbage to be broadcast, but also promote it blatantly and pay liars to feed their lies to (apparently) a very stupid public.
In any event, it is the height of arrogance to suggest that mankind would be able to change the natural course of these periods.
Ignorance is bliss. I guess.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:25 pmThe Southern hemisphere had the warmest temperatures on record for 2009. Here on the West Coast, it’s been pretty warm. I don’t always bother to turn on the one little heater we have, and I don’t leave it on at night. It also seems to be raining much less than usual. It should go without saying that the North Eastern United States is not the world.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:25 pmLink-free Timmeh. *bigger yawn*
February 9th, 2010 at 8:25 pmI get my best news from unnamed sources who are highly placed in major Canadian print media
February 9th, 2010 at 8:26 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Tim Vaculik says:
Our planet has always had periods of warming AND cooling. Anyone here ever heard of the last mini-ice age?
So…if we were to undergo the next ice age, the temperatures would have to be falling everywhere. If that was the case, as Zooey and I discussed before, there would be very little snow, or that snow would be a very powdery snow.
Right?
So all of this heavy wet snow…does it mean the climate is warming or cooling, Mr. Wizard?
February 9th, 2010 at 8:26 pmI never attribute credibility to someone who got a degree in logic from a box of Cracker Jack.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:27 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
hey tim – you should totally contact those PhD’s at the IPCC –
February 9th, 2010 at 8:28 pmthey’ve probably never heard that there have been warming and cooling cycles in large periods of earth history, and stuff like that.
Here’s a question for you
February 9th, 2010 at 8:28 pm–
Why are you climate geniuses laughed at by the established scientific community?
If increased precip. comes along as a result of warmer temps and/or El Nino, why does it turn to snow?
tick tock tick tock tick tock…
That’s one stupid comment. A doozy!
February 9th, 2010 at 8:29 pmTim Vaculik says:
If increased precip. comes along as a result of warmer temps and/or El Nino, why does it turn to snow?
These imbecile is in serious need of a few episodes of Bill Nye the Science Guy.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:29 pmTim Vaculik says:
Here’s the reality:
While it’s true that the globe has experienced higher temperatures up until recently, it has now entered into a period of cooling.
If we are “entering” a period of cooling, how do you know that? Do you have data that extends over a period long enough to determine a trend? Really? Could you share that data with the rest of us?
If your “period of cooling” only started in, oh, December, it’s not much of a trend, timmeh.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:29 pmThe movie the Great Global Warming Swindle is shot down in this video. It shows how the deniers manipulate data, take quotes out of context and cherry pick papers to discredit climate change proponents.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:30 pmBill Nye the Science Guy
February 9th, 2010 at 8:31 pm—
I thought he died in that massive vinegar and baking soda explosion
Tim Vaculik says:
If increased precip. comes along as a result of warmer temps and/or El Nino, why does it turn to snow?
Because…it’s winter?
Seriously, global warming doesn’t turn winter into summer and summer into mega-ultra-hot summer.
It’s progressive, something conservatives likely don’t get.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:32 pmdbadass says:
I thought he died in that massive vinegar and baking soda explosion
Ah, but what a way to go, right?
February 9th, 2010 at 8:32 pmSo Hannity is a science professor, now?
February 9th, 2010 at 8:33 pmTim = Olby Sucks
Seriously, guys, it’s ALL THE SAME GUY, and Tim telling us otherwise isn’t proof.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:33 pmwell, duu-uhhh – angels blow on it, silly.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:34 pmTimmy:
February 9th, 2010 at 8:34 pm“It’s cold. So there’s no Climate Change”
Like being ejected from the churning bowels of the earth….
February 9th, 2010 at 8:34 pmHi mosswright
February 9th, 2010 at 8:35 pmTim Vaculik says:
Here’s a question for you folks:
If increased precip. comes along as a result of warmer temps and/or El Nino, why does it turn to snow?
tick tock tick tock tick tock…
Because it’s winter?
Was that supposed to be a trick question?
Would it also be too much to keep in mind that it is only winter in one half of the planet. Is it snowing in Australia right now?
Not too surprisingly, the deniers, like most Right Wingers, simply can’t grasp the whole “global” thing. If it’s not happening right there in downtown Cowville, it doesn’t count.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:35 pmPurple State is sponsored by GlaxoSmithKline says:
Seriously, guys, it’s ALL THE SAME GUY, and Tim telling us otherwise isn’t proof.
I consider all trolls as one troll. None of them has ever had an original thought anyway…
February 9th, 2010 at 8:35 pmAbove the Clouds says:
So Hannity is a science professor, now?
On Fox everyone gets to play “Let’s pretend.” Some of them pretend to be journalists.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:36 pmYou know, every time “Big John. Big man.” comes up, it ought to scream the obvious…
February 9th, 2010 at 8:36 pmdbadass says:
Hi mosswright
mosswright sounds suspiciously like a different troll name that was around earlier. Could it be the troll logged in with the wrong browser window?
February 9th, 2010 at 8:36 pmAbove the Clouds says:
So Hannity is a science professor, now?
Noting Hannity’s distaste with education and intelligence and add to the fact that he is a college dropout, the thought of him touting himself as an expert on anything is laughable.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:37 pmDoes anyone remember BossMoss?
February 9th, 2010 at 8:37 pmSimple-minded, yes.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:39 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Right Sean, and the fact you wake up every morning in the same body and narrow head means you’ll never die.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:41 pmFaith-based climate science, obviously.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:41 pmI wonder if Timmeh’s mommy cuts his peanut butter and grape jelly sandwiches vertically, horizontally, or diagonally? Two sections or four?
February 9th, 2010 at 8:41 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
I feel left out…
February 9th, 2010 at 8:43 pmTim Vaculik says:
Here’s the reality:
While it’s true that the globe has experienced higher temperatures up until recently, it has now entered into a period of cooling.
Yeah, it’s called “winter.”
February 9th, 2010 at 8:43 pmJesus! Has anyone on Faux News every read the data on Global Warming? Don’t they realize that the last decade was the hottest? The droughts and wild weather and hurricanes are getting worse. Don’t these as*holes read anything other than Propaganda?
February 9th, 2010 at 8:43 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Right now, I’m expacting at least a foot of snow. A record. The data includes info how Global Warming can produce record moisture levels and heavy snow. WTF?
February 9th, 2010 at 8:44 pmMy turn to get dinner, Tim. Calling me names won’t get you anything from me.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:44 pmgummitch — this space for rent says:
He’s actually patterned his handle after Mose Wright, the great uncle of Emmitt Till, a 15 year old African American boy that was murdered for talking to a white woman in the town of Money, Mississippi.
Mose Wright stood in court and had the guts to identify the two white racists who were responsible for his nephew’s murder. Mose Wright was a very courageous man.
That his name should be twisted and used by a racist troll is offensive.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:44 pm@62, Why do you want to know Zooey’s age? That’s odd.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:45 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
It was 42 degrees here in Maine today. Sunny all day and there’s hardly any snow on the ground thanks to all the melting days we’ve had. Did I mention it was February in Maine?
February 9th, 2010 at 8:46 pmWhy do the freaks thing Al Gore is like some sort of SuperHero or some such shit? I don’t get it…
February 9th, 2010 at 8:46 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
The Winter Olympics in Canada is making snow because there isn’t any. What gives?
February 9th, 2010 at 8:47 pmAt 8:27, timmeh claimed he was going to get something to eat.
Tim Vaculik says:
Purple grape,
Look, either I’m a little slow here after a few glasses of wine, or your question needs restating. So help me out will ya?
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13 minutes later, timmeh is back, having had “a few glasses of wine.” Back away from the Thunderbird, timmeh, and you won’t have to chug your wine.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:47 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
why doesn’t it just RAIN?
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February 9th, 2010 at 8:48 pmTim is thinking a very linear sort of thing for you?
The Global Warming Theory clearly says, on page 27, “There will never be snowstorms.”
February 9th, 2010 at 8:48 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Kay@71, LOL! I’m getting over a foot of snow tonight. Maybe as much as 20 inches.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:48 pmMeanwhile – in Vancouver, B.C. they are having to truck and helicopter snow in to try to get enough snow on the mountains for the Olympics. These idiots are in denial for one simple reason – they are totally self-absorbed and don’t give a rats ass about the planet or anyone else on it besides themselves. I wish we could just ship them off to some OTHER planet where they would be fighting each other within a couple of weeks.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:49 pmmuzz@78, They can have my snow. We have tons of it.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:49 pmJeez, is that idiot Tim Vaculik back?
February 9th, 2010 at 8:49 pmTim Vaculik says:
Geez, I thoight I was slow…
And you’re right, for a change. You are very slow.
My point with the precip comment is this:
Why are we experiencing more and incresingly sever snow events this winter?
If we had higher than average temps, why doesn’t it just RAIN?
Because it’s STILL FKCING WINTER, ya knothead.
Higher temperatures don’t turn winter into summer!
You’re just like the evolution deniers: “if things are changing from one species to another, why can’t I see it happening?”
February 9th, 2010 at 8:49 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
I had the wine first, before dinner
February 9th, 2010 at 8:50 pm–
So what was the entree and the major side?
Because he holds himself out to BE one, my friend!
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February 9th, 2010 at 8:51 pmHow so?
Tim Vacuous says:
Yes, you are slow. And stupid. Like the rest of the Trolls here.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:51 pmHas Beck noted when the record was made ? You know, about 100 years ago ?
Funny how the deny-ers can’t deal with variations / chaos theory in data.
Kind of like the TV weathermen who say, the temperature yesterday was 29, below the average temperature of 30. Oh wow ! 1 degree. Wonder what the standard deviation was ?
February 9th, 2010 at 8:51 pmLet’s all ask these people about global warming again once it gets out of the MIDDLE OF WINTER and there is some awful heat wave across the country and temps hit 100 and people die. What would that be?
http://www.sunstateactivist.org/ssablog
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Philadelphia is expected to get as much as 20 inches. On top of the 28 inches they get just a few days ago. The trolls argument that snow shouldn’t exist because of Global Warming is ridiculous. It’s friggin winter! As Jon Stewart famously said, ‘So I guess in the winter it’s not supposed to get cold?’
February 9th, 2010 at 8:53 pm81. Gummitch,
may I add that here in Missouri, the temperature was extremely warm (as compared to historical norms) in October and November.
No one was claiming that proved global cooling!
In fact, on the NOAA web page was a map showing the expected effects of our current position in the el Nino / la Nina cycle.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:54 pmWhen you prove something, get back to me!
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February 9th, 2010 at 8:55 pmSort of like that crazy shit about two of everything on a boat and talking snake and some chick that gets knocked up by some sort of f ucked up human parathenogenesis shit like some sort of lizard and all…
dbadass says:
I had the wine first, before dinner
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So what was the entree and the major side?
I’m guessing turkey tv dinner, so the major side would be “mashed potato”.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:55 pmHey Timmy:
Say goodbye to some more of your denialists astro-turf talking points. Electric cars may actually help lower home electricity costs without the need to build additional new plants.
Don’t believe it? Plug-in Hybrids: Renewable Energy Solution of the Month Watch this video
February 9th, 2010 at 8:56 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
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Hurricane Katrina, the tsunami in Asia, these awful snowstorms — all are signals of a drastically changing climate. Climate, which is different from weather. Guess Hannity failed ninth-grade general science and also failed to note than this January was the warmest in many a year.
February 9th, 2010 at 8:57 pmfixed it 4 u
February 9th, 2010 at 8:57 pmTim Vacuous says;
February 9th, 2010 at 8:58 pmNothing, as usual. No citations, no proof, no nothin.
How does Al Gore relate to the global consensus of concern? Do you whacks really see Al Gore as some sort of global elitist puppet master? That is so fuc kin zany….
February 9th, 2010 at 8:59 pmWhat about those that are actually scientists?
February 9th, 2010 at 9:00 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
What a useless little sh!t. The Consevative movement pays him well to spout this crap, because this is what they really value – the willingness to tell bald-faced lies.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:01 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Kenneth – I’m not sure if you are a troll or not – right now you’re at a (-1), but you are right about the weather in the rockies. Snowpack here in Colorado is down, and while we’ve had a few good years in between, the weather, especially up in the mountains is changing. If any of you ever drive through rocky Mountain National Park (northwest of Denver), you would be shocked at how the pine beetles have destroyed that forest. It’s happened because it doesn’t get cold enough and stay that way during the winter anymore, and the little bastards just won’t die – just like the rescumicans and their little trolls.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:01 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Kenneth says:
ElBruce, owned and operated by NewsCorp, Inc. says:
Increased precipitation is a sign of global warming
Explain to me then why the snow-pack in the Rockies has been down the last 10 years or so? Skiing has been horrible in places.
I dunno, maybe it melted.
And, once again, the “global” aspect flies high above the troll consciousness.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:02 pmI get my news down at the corner of Common & Sense. Not over on the other side of town near Propaganda & Bull Street.
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February 9th, 2010 at 9:02 pmCool. Be sure to tip the gal with the coffee….Can I borrow some duct tape and plastic sheeting?
Damnit.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:02 pmThat is the second time in the last hour that comments have entered and exited that time spece continuum thing….
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gummitch — this space for rent says:
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Tim Vaculik says:
Here’s the reality:
While it’s true that the globe has experienced higher temperatures up until recently, it has now entered into a period of cooling.
If we are “entering” a period of cooling, how do you know that? Do you have data that extends over a period long enough to determine a trend? Really? Could you share that data with the rest of us?
If your “period of cooling” only started in, oh, December, it’s not much of a trend, timmeh.
Guumitch, this idiot sounds an awful lot like my dad.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:03 pmAnd trust me, that’s not a good thing.
My dad wears his ignorance about global warming on his sleeve proudly.
dbad@110, LOL! It’s happened to me too.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:03 pmOnly a teabagging hick would be surprised that it snows in February. Conservatives really should attempt to possess a college degree. The experience of facts and reality would really benefit their pathetic lives.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:04 pmNo, the problem is that so many gullible people actually BELIEVE what he has to say on the subject.
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February 9th, 2010 at 9:05 pmYou mean those NASA folk, and those people over at NMF, and at NOAA, and at ETA, and those circumpolar indigenous people, and those south pacific islanders, and those folks moving vessels throught the NW Passage? And most interestingly most clergy… Are you telling me Al Gore has the power to exert this level of global control?
Using teabagging hick “logic”, since no women in my family ever had breast cancer, then breast cancer really is not a problem.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:05 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Tim Vaculik says:
Actually, no. My personality type is “Intuitive Thinker” on the MBTI test.
The MBTI is very generous, in that it assumes most people are “thinkers.” If I cared, I’d wonder how you came out on the neuroticism scale.
We should keep in mind that the MBTI is a self-report test, so naturally Timmeh would answer it in such a way that made him look as good as possible.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:06 pm@116, WTF does that mean.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:06 pmDr Hussein Matt says;
To first attempt to obtain a college degree they need to graduate from High School.
Never mind.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:07 pmpezmiztix says:
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even the new york times was quoting pachuri apologizing for ‘errors’. here you have the agw god admitting data gathering protocols.
im just wondering how long will it take for the entire agw scam to be exposed? of course, criminal charges should be pursued.
One scientist adknowledging some mistakes does not merit your claim that global warming is a “fraud”.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:07 pmAll science makes mistakes occasionally.
Why the heck do you think that scientists have to get their findings peer-reviewed before they publish them?
Geez, go back to science class or something!
Trollkind have such a low level of critical thinking skills, that they think because they assert something confidently, that makes it true. No scientific data needed to back up confidence!
February 9th, 2010 at 9:08 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
pezmiztix
February 9th, 2010 at 9:09 pmDo you have any experience with any natural systems in any deep meaningful way?
Also, stormie…The New York Times, really?
February 9th, 2010 at 9:10 pmYou do know that they are very right-leaning?
Remember Insannity dropped out of Community College and is not very bright or educated. His target market must be a bunch of loons who will buy this non-sense. It is Climate change, wingnuts. It is getting colder where it gets cold and it is getting hotter where it gets hot.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:10 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Tim Vaculik says:
My final comment on the subject is this:
Bye.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:10 pmDamn, it’s troll central in here. ‘Teh gay’ and Global Warming brings them out in droves.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:10 pmYou final comment lacks any basis for the reader to want to embrace it. You offer no evidences and simply make asilly declaritive. If you wanna take your ball and go home whatever but don’t pretend that anyone cares…
February 9th, 2010 at 9:11 pmso just stifle
February 9th, 2010 at 9:11 pm–
Flo was no believer in Jung’s ideas as to learning style…
Tim Vaculik says:
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My final comment on the subject is this:
The entire house of cards called “man-made” global warming (or climate change if you prefer) is falling down right in front of our eyes, but inevitably some will choose to cover them so they won’t SEE!
The only people walking around with their eyes covered are those that try to deny that climate change is happening and in the process, ignore the hundreds of studies/experts who say that it is happening.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:13 pm@130, ‘Stifle’? How old are YOU buddy? That’s a term that hasn’t been used since Archie used to deride Edith.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:13 pmAt the risk of conflating climate and weather. Relatively warm, moist, air during winter makes for bigger snowstorms. Warm, moist, air from the tropics mixes with the cold, dry, air from the poles and creates snowstorms.
BTW. January, 2010 is the warmest January ever recorded and Inshannity is a pathological liar.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:14 pmNight Kay…
February 9th, 2010 at 9:15 pmpete:
February 9th, 2010 at 9:15 pmWe should have a deep base of snow yet we have bare ground and have most of the winter. Few winter birds have shifted into this region as they have had no need.
Howie Carr of right wing radio in Boston is always saying, “It’s 25 degrees here today! Global warming isn’t real! It’s a hoax!”, because according to Howie in Boston it’s never cold in the winter (untrue) or in Maine (untrue), so he bases GLOBAL warming on the city of Boston temperature.
Do you know why there isn’t any natural snow at the Winter Olympics in Canada this year? And I don’t want to hear, “But Kay! It’s February! It’s always nice and warm in February in Canada for crying out loud!”.
Okay, going to bed. Night all! :-)
February 9th, 2010 at 9:15 pmSo Al Gore is not to be believed because he is a celebrity and not a scientist, but college drop-out Sean Hannity is a scientist in what field exactly? And the same clowns that believe Hannity without question are calling folks gullible?
February 9th, 2010 at 9:16 pmWhere were you Climate Change denying idiots when Florida was going through three straight weeks of records highs in the months of November and December.
Oooooh, it is cold during winter! Hey morons snow has nothing to do with global temperature, it is precipitation. You know that thing called water that falls from the sky. NOAA has the most accurate numbers on the steady increase of temperatures over the years.
One last point conservative relgio-fascists, if we are wrong what do we have a whole new Energy Technology industry to move our country forward, but what if YOU are wrong? The catastrophic condition we will find the World and especially our great Nation will be behind forever.
Because the Chinese aren’t waiting, they are investing in Clean Energy Technology to the tune of billions of dollars. Most of the rest of the World believes that E.T. is going to be the next industry like I.T. has been over the last 50+ years. But we are having to fight with people like you that wish to preach Creationism in science class, ops I mean teach.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:16 pmTim Vaculik says:
Zoo,
Do yourself a favor and refrain from commenting on subjects you know absolutely NOTHING about (the MBTI test for example)
Once again demonstrating your ignorance. Really, you don’t have to keep proving it — we believe you!
Best take your own advice.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:16 pmNight Kay!
February 9th, 2010 at 9:17 pmFlat lander, creationists, don’t believe in science. Go figure the wingnuts.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:17 pmTroll boy? Are you there?
February 9th, 2010 at 9:18 pmHey troll, I have a question. Do you believe in Evolution? How about how old the Earth is? I’m curious.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:18 pmdbadass,
We’ve had plenty of snow but it’s split up with layers of ice from the unseasonable temperatures and even rain. Also, ice fisherman have been dropping vehicles through the ice in record numbers. I already told you about the robins that have decided to stay for the winter.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:20 pmP.D.,
February 9th, 2010 at 9:20 pmI don’t think it’s a good idea to ask any of our trolls any questions that involve thinking.
Their heads will explode..
I don’t know about you, but troll brains are yucky!
After spending a little time over a youtube I found that most global warming deniers don’t actually dislike the science. They in fact only have a love of pollution. There were many people volunteering to live in toxic waste dumps and drink slurry. The whole global warming issue would be moot if we just promised all the pro-pollution folk that we could just pump toxic waste directly into their children’s bedrooms.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:22 pmThe simplistic “thinking” of the Timmeh troll is absolutely stunning, and yet he confidently stakes out his ridiculous position and holds firm.
Dude must be a teabagger as well.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:22 pmlinz@149, I noticed troll boy as left. Maybe he doesn’t want us to know he thinks the Earth is flat and Noah had dinosuars on his Ark perhaps?
February 9th, 2010 at 9:23 pmIt’s just too hard for them to grasp. They choose to be willfully ignorant on the science of this, even as it is being played out before their eyes.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:23 pmP.D. @152
February 9th, 2010 at 9:24 pmI think you must’ve scared him/her off with your smartness..
P.D.
I’ll take this one. The stupid trolls Believe anyone who tells them they are not congenital idiots. Every “idea” they try to sell to those of us who know better is straight from SaudiFAUX and/or hate-radio. It’s been bad for decades but it’s gotten bloody ridiculous since we elected a President who is not entirely Caucasian. I think it severed any tenuous connection with reality they may have once possessed.
It’s been said that “dreams die hard”. I might add that they die even harder when those dreams are founded on falsehoods.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:26 pmYeah, for Hannity and the Reich Wing, science is just something else to politicize. Pretty soon they’ll be telling us that Republican shit doesn’t stink.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:26 pmBig John
February 9th, 2010 at 9:27 pmYour leg? Shit I can piss in your mouth if I wish and do you know why?
Big John, I see you’re unable to refute one single point. Here is a question… Have you ever won an argument using words?
February 9th, 2010 at 9:28 pmJust take it from Hannity the everything and everyday’s expert in climate, terrorism, military, law and courts,and anything you think of, Hannity will try to show us that he can handle on his nightly show at Fox.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:28 pmHe and Ann Coulter sometimes put on shows in an attempt to show viewers some stupid expertise about Moslem and Arabic culture,sometimes chinese culture,if not Indian culture,blacks,whites and even the budget.etc.. ..etc.
All delivered to you under-Fair and Balanced- slogan.
Any surprise that Hannity takes on weather and climate..?
The ‘know it all’ Hannity always there to deliver his B.S. talk,and he is not shy about what he says.
@155, I think you are pissing on your own leg. My advice? Lay off the meth.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:28 pmBig John says:
Don’t go pissing on my leg and telling me it’s global warming TP.
Dude, we’re not pissing on your leg; we’re pissing on your head.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:28 pmJust another mental midget showing off his 4th grade science education.
Unusual weather phenomena and extreme storms are totally consistent with the climate change model.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:29 pmlinz@154, That’s very flattering. But outwitting trolls isn’t hard to do, they make it easy by being a*holes.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:29 pmIf only Hannity could wish it away!
February 9th, 2010 at 9:29 pmI just checked the Weather Channel radar loop for Willingboro, NJ. That”s where my folks live. A lot of snow coming down. This is not normal for them. Even if I didn’t accept the reality of Global Warming and it attendant affect of Climate Change, I’d be worried.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:30 pmBy contrast, we have had a lousy winter here in the central rockies of Colorado. It’s going to be a long summer if its a repeat of 2002. We burned that summer. Literally.
Birthers, deathers, teabaggers and climate change deniers all have one thing in common…..breath taking stupidity. What they always fail to explain is what possible reason is there to cook up a global warming? And heres something else these clowns fail to address. In all the other times the earth went through warming and cooling trends, there was no such thing as fossil fuels belching factories, grease oozing fast food joints and autos spewing filth. Idiots of the highest order.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:30 pmHannity sure is stupid. was he once a Republican?
February 9th, 2010 at 9:31 pmdbadass says:
Who told you about Mark Koldys feish with the trolls during their role playing sessions?
February 9th, 2010 at 9:31 pmfetish
February 9th, 2010 at 9:31 pmpete@156, LOL! They certainly elevate stupid don’t they? Look at Queen Sarah. She’s dumber than a bag of hammers.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:31 pmlabman57,
I must disagree. They have no education of any grade level, only indoctrination. From the time their parents first told the phucking retards they were “smart”, they have been impervious to logic and reason.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:32 pm@171
February 9th, 2010 at 9:32 pmCareful, you’ll insult bags of hammers by comparing them to Bimbostein.
Hammers are tools that we need.
Bimbostien is just a tool in general.
Here we go again. The trolls troting out blogs that are meaningless instead of debating. These guys are SOO predictable.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:34 pmPredicable, yes. sophomoric, yes.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:35 pmBig John seems unsure of Big John’s self…I wonder why…
February 9th, 2010 at 9:37 pmGood analysis. I cannot understand why proponents of action for the environment have allowed a broad range of problems to be regrouped under a catch phrase like “climate change” or “global warming”. The world is experiencing a global environmental crisis. Based solely on proven scientific fact and witnessed events, all intelligent beings, which of course excludes people like Hannity, will agree on four basic points concerning the environment. The world’s ressources are finite and we have used up a large portion of the available supply. Emissions of pollutants do not help the atmosphere and contribute to the green house effect. The planet offers a limited ammount of space and basic neccessities and cannot support an ever increasing and uncontrolled population. There will be a new national security question on the near horizon, that of mass migration. Pundits and experts that know that we need to take action in these four aforementioned domains should change the rhetoric from trying to prove that a catch phrase such as “global warming” exists, and speak of the problem as a whole. There is an excellent book, written by Jean Marc Jancovici, a French guy, that explains the global environmental situation. In his book “three days to save the planet” (trois jours pour sauver le monde), Jancovici uses metaphores and allegories that even an ignoramus like Hannity could,(could being the operative word) understand. This cretin proffesses to be a man of God. Bullshit! According to Hannity’s God,(not unlike his America),the planet is God’s creation. If the planet is God’s creation then is it not a sin for a pious believer like Hannity to promote Earth’s ruin ? Hannity’s America is an America where obese bigots selfishly rape the planet and pillage her ressources. The whole idea behind preying on the fears of the simple minded, is that it steers public opinion away from the real problems. Hannity has children, he should be ashamed of himself.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:38 pmElBruce, owned and operated by NewsCorp, Inc. says:
Increased precipitation is a sign of global warming.
And that fact has been presented over and over and over….for how long now? And the nay sayer idiots still refuse to acknowledge it. This goes beyond all boundaries of stupidity.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:39 pmHannity experise in climate probably came from ‘palm reader’ Sarah Palin.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:40 pmI reckon George Will is due for another AGW denial column about now.
By the way, it’s nearly 100 degrees F in Adelaide Australia
February 9th, 2010 at 9:40 pmtoday. Of course, it is summer down here.
Big John says:
Actually I was pissing in your mouth, but that’s only ’cause you teabaggers never shut them no matter how ignorant and uniformed you are patsy… ;)
February 9th, 2010 at 9:44 pmfull of hopes and dreams… wishes and aspirations…
February 9th, 2010 at 9:47 pmBig John is a little person inside….
February 9th, 2010 at 9:47 pmO/T a little:
February 9th, 2010 at 9:47 pmAnyone know if the Kennedy’s wrote a book last year that said that “The Washington D.C. area will never see snow again”?
I’m just asking because my mom and younger sis (conservatards) were talking about it and laughing..
Then again, they are party of the Hannity-ish crowd who think that global warming isn’t real just because it’s snowing outside.
That’s it… No more two part jokes if you are going to insist on inverting them….
February 9th, 2010 at 9:48 pmBig John says:
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182, I know how to throw a hand grenade. You don’t.
Sure you do. Careful kid, don’t blow your arm off or something!
February 9th, 2010 at 9:50 pmBlowJob:
February 9th, 2010 at 9:51 pmDo you ever think for yourself?
Or do you let Hannity, Flush Limpballs, et al do all your talking for you?
Tim, #2, only a slobbering idiot like you could call this “one of the coldest winters on record,” since nothing more exotic than actually looking at that record suffices to conclusively demonstrate that this is not even remotely that cold.
On a related note, perhaps you could enlighten us all on just how exactly a human being comes to be as stupid as you are? You obviously weren’t born this way else no one would have ever bothered putting you in a crib: they’d have simply stuck you in a clay pot and watered you three times a week.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:51 pmBig John says:
Ah, now we know who you are!
February 9th, 2010 at 9:51 pmHello, Lt. Laura Cameltosucker!
Oh noes, it’s the dreaded Lt Cameltoesucker!!
February 9th, 2010 at 9:53 pmGot any poop to throw today?
Don’t worry, my umbrella is ready and waiting.
Yeah, I get all my scientific info from the F’in Hannitys and a dude named Big John who likes fart jokes.
sure.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:55 pmAre BlowJob and Lt Cameltoesucker really the same troll?
February 9th, 2010 at 9:57 pmInquiring minds want to know..
155. Big John says:
Yes, but we’ve already determined that you are incredibly stupid and useless.
Let’s face it, BJ — I hope you don’t mind me calling you “BJ” — the only thing you are capable of doing is sitting around in gaping, slack-jawed stupefaction swallowing (by the bye, BJ, there might be an incidental pun there) wholesale whatever infantile lie is shovelled down your gaping gullet by the paid professional liars at Faux Noise, which you dutifully gulp down without so much as a first, much less a second thought.
February 9th, 2010 at 9:59 pmlinzloo08 says;
I think they are. The grenade throwing reference gave it away. The Trolls aren’t too bright. Especially this one.
February 9th, 2010 at 10:00 pm@197
February 9th, 2010 at 10:01 pmI thought so.
They sounded equally stupid.
Anyone here seen LiberalSlayer or kwsventures?
February 9th, 2010 at 10:03 pmI miss watching them get their butts handed to them on a regular basis?
It’s very entertaining.
Good night my fellow TPers, see you on the morn…
February 9th, 2010 at 10:03 pmI can make a hand grenade. I can reload ammo, including loads with mixed propellants. I can figure out just how much fertilizer and diesel fuel are needed to achieve a desired explosive yield. I can calculate the yield necessary to achieve a desired result. Given enough funds, I could assemble a nuclear bomb and predict it’s yield within a few percent.
Merely throwing a hand grenade, a construct of scientists like myself, only proves that one has an ability to count to a very small number and enough coordination to propel a weight away from one’s body. The only expertise required to throw a grenade is the bare minimum needed to find cover before that small number is reached.
Smart people make grenades. Stupid people throw them.
February 9th, 2010 at 10:04 pmI heard kwsventures was looking to invest heavily in green technologies and applications…
February 9th, 2010 at 10:05 pmKenneth says:
Explain to me then why the snow-pack in the Rockies has been down the last 10 years or so? Skiing has been horrible in places.
For one thing, the effects of global warming aren’t the same everywhere. The Rockies are nowhere near a major body of water to turn thermal energy into Winter blizzards. Furthermore, it appears the measured yearly snowpack there is decreasing due to the fact that Spring is coming earlier and earlier to that region every year.
So, thanks for asking.
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Tim Vaculik says:
O.K., after reading all the posts and counter posts about winter, I think it’s safe to say that you can’t read too much into the fact that there is MORE or LESS snow.
I agree. That’s what we mean when we keep pointing out the difference between climate and weather. What can be predicted by global warming however, is rapid changes in weather from year to year in a great number of places around the world. Put more energy in a system, and the system becomes increasingly variable.
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Tim Vaculik says:
We quote things that support our point of view here because it takes too much time to delve into any subject too deeply. This is especially true when it comes to science.
We’ve delved into it. It’s not that terribly hard. The problem is… here, let me summarize the history of the argument:
1. Climate scientists notice the world cycling hotter and hotter over a five year trend, with no natural explanation.
2. Climate scientists notice atmospheric CO2 cycling greater and greater over the same period, with no natural explanation.
3. Climate scientists posit that the increase in CO2, a greenhouse gas, is causing the increase in mean global temperature.
4. Climate scientists and others note that the increase in atmospheric CO2 matches the increase in human industrial activity.
5. It is also pointed out that humans have been burning vast quantities of various stuff for the last 150 years.
6. Wingnuts start screaming that all of the above has been faked!
In being concerned about this, we don’t have any ulterior motive. You’re the ones with the agenda here. I’d be perfectly happy if it turned out that the Earth’s atmosphere had some method of absorbing and/or neutralizing the increased CO2 that we’ve been dumping into the atmosphere since the Victorian Age. That’d be great! But you draw no distinction between what is the case and what you hope is the case, and there is no amount of evidence that could be presented which would change your mind.
That’s how everybody can tell you’re wrong.
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Kenneth says:
I get my news down at the corner of Common & Sense.
In other words, you make it up.
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pezmiztix says:
the himalayan fraud also exposed. why do progressives cherry pick their data?
Let’s see what you’re talking about:
OK, so the Himalayan glaciers will all be gone in 2050-2060 instead of 2035. How does that support your position at all?
February 9th, 2010 at 10:07 pmSee ya P.D.! Have a good night. It was fun to chat today.
February 9th, 2010 at 10:08 pmdbadass says:
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I heard kwsventures was looking to invest heavily in green technologies and applications…
But, but green technology doesn’t work.
February 9th, 2010 at 10:09 pmMy leader, Flush Limpballs said so!
/snark.
On a serious note:
February 9th, 2010 at 10:09 pmGood for kws.
I hope it goes well.
How about you, stupid troll whose brain and genitalia need threats to mitigate their subnormal size and decay due to atrophy? I bet you can’t even describe the difference between an explosive and a propellant. I’m equally sure that, if you actually tried to blow something up, you would be just as successful as the “underwear bomber”.
Though I suppose it’s possible that someone who actually understands the science might be able to impart enough knowledge to make you dangerous, every word you’ve posted indicates an intellect, or lack thereof, that would be incapable of figuring out a way to blow up a freakin’ balloon.
February 9th, 2010 at 10:14 pmRepubican says:
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Why is it that the Catholic Church disagrees with your weird attempt to discount climate science by virtue of a snowstorm?
Why is it that you would care what the Catholic Church has to say?
Because they happen to be one of the most influential institutions on earth besides the United Nations..
February 9th, 2010 at 10:15 pmSheesh, you really need to get out more, don’t you?
Hey, Repubicon where’s big John?
February 9th, 2010 at 10:16 pmWhy is it that you would care what the Catholic Church has to say?
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February 9th, 2010 at 10:17 pmWell mostly because although I am not catholic many people around the world are and the Pope represents their God’s view of how things are. Now when I include that with the ideas of most other mainstream churches and those of the scientific community I am sort of forced to think that the climate hoaxers are how shall we say…. GOOBERS?
where’s big John?
February 9th, 2010 at 10:19 pm–
If you must know he is licking my ‘taint…
dbadass says:
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where’s big John?
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If you must know he is licking my ‘taint…
Or are you guys teabagging each other?
February 9th, 2010 at 10:21 pmTo be continued….
On 2nd thought, the idea of dbadass being teabagged by a slug is gross!
February 9th, 2010 at 10:22 pmI hadn’t caught that bit of bullshit, El Bruce. I can’t claim a perfect understanding of global climate but my training makes it fairly simple to digest the data on my own. As soon as someone says, “no one can understand”, it’s time to drop any pretense of reasonable debate.
I understand the science. Thousands of other scientists, including a great many with doctorates in climate science, can explain it better than a devoted amateur like myself can hope for.
But? Any objective observer will soon realize that those who think global warming is a “hoax” don’t have a single reputable scientist on their side. If you want to examine the merits of the “sides” it’s very simple.
Thousands of scientists are past debating the existence and causes of global warming. That’s “our side”. The other side has profoundly ignorant people like Inshannity and Jimmy Inhofe.
February 9th, 2010 at 10:22 pmdrhunt says:
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Big John? Big man.
Big man= small weiner.
February 9th, 2010 at 10:25 pmThat took awhile, doc… slowin’ down in yer old age?
February 9th, 2010 at 10:26 pmdrhunt says:
#312 angels-I never claimed I was a doctor…it was assumed from my alias for weeks.
drhunt says:
February 9th, 2010 at 10:27 pmAs a doctor myself, I can assure you Tiller was a hack, and NO physician I know has an ounce of respect for what he did. I can’t even believe his wife could live with the man, knowing full well how he “practiced” medicine.
February 1st, 2010 at 12:35 am
ElBruce says@ 203
Quite true Elbruce. I live in Glenwood Springs and I can tell you, we are going to have a problem this summer. Snowpack is down significantly from last year and is well off the historic average as well. Couple that with the pine beetle epidemic and we could be looking at a very bad fire season here. And it could start sooner than ever if the weather doesn’t change soon.
February 9th, 2010 at 10:27 pmdrhunt says:
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Big John? Big man.
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The good news is that we really only have one troll infesting the blog. One troll and many puppets.
February 9th, 2010 at 10:27 pm*Squirts Dr Hunt with can of Raid*
February 9th, 2010 at 10:28 pmOops it looks like there’s a little pest control problem here.
It is sort of like Dobbie…
February 9th, 2010 at 10:29 pmsuch a small john-son on our very own big John.
pity.
February 9th, 2010 at 10:29 pmHeyyy don’t insult one of my fave Harry Potter characters by comparing the trolls to him!
February 9th, 2010 at 10:32 pmThey’re nowhere near as funny as Dobby is.
dbadass says:
It is sort of like Dobbie…
Srsly, don’t go there. :|
February 9th, 2010 at 10:33 pmWho really wants global warming to happen?
February 9th, 2010 at 10:35 pmHello there, Dr Hunt
February 9th, 2010 at 10:36 pmBring any rocks or snowballs to sling at us?
We’re ready and waiting..
Who really wants global warming to happen?
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February 9th, 2010 at 10:36 pmSatanists?
What’s up doc?
Care to explain another one of your blatant lies?
You claimed you were posting here for “weeks” before you pretended to be an MD. The googles told me you were only posting here since the 23rd of January.
Why do you tell so many lies?
February 9th, 2010 at 10:37 pmReggie, sponsored by Brawndo ™ says:
Why do you tell so many lies?
Because if he told the truth — even to himself — he’d never stop crying.
February 9th, 2010 at 10:40 pmWhy would someone show themselves to be a fraud yet pretend to have opinions worthy of respect?
February 9th, 2010 at 10:41 pmZooey (sponsored by Planned Parenthood) says:
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Reggie, sponsored by Brawndo ™ says:
Why do you tell so many lies?
Because if he told the truth — even to himself — he’d never stop crying.
*Cue in the Glenn Beck-ish “crocodile tears”*
February 9th, 2010 at 10:43 pmReggie,
People who can’t balance what they observe with what they Believe are often reduced to lies, bluster, and insane ranting. It’s not us they rail against. It’s the testimony of there own senses.
February 9th, 2010 at 10:43 pmJonah Goldberg made a similarly idiotic statement today in his editorial in the LA Times. “Boy, look at all that snow, so much for Global Warming. Ha-Ha!”
It really is getting wearisome, but they are winning. “Belief” in Global Warming by those who are so intellectually challenged that they think it is a “belief” is dropping rapidly, thanks in no small part to this constant drum beat from the right.
February 9th, 2010 at 10:44 pmOk seriously Dr Hunt, do I have to call an exterminator to solve “this problem” once and for all?
February 9th, 2010 at 10:47 pmOlby Sucker is back. *yawn*
February 9th, 2010 at 10:47 pmIn regards to zooey or reggie?
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February 9th, 2010 at 10:47 pmThat would only work if both had been shown to be fraudulant in any way
awwweeeee… new guys. Welcome to TP, BBB and KD.
new guys.
February 9th, 2010 at 10:48 pmLooks like we have two new sock puppets to play with. And who might you two be btw?
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kassandrasduplex says:
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I see you losers are still at it.
Project much?
February 9th, 2010 at 10:49 pmHi kassandrasduplex
February 9th, 2010 at 10:49 pmWould you like to know what is really happening?
Would that be 4 names in one day, KD?
Shallow.
February 9th, 2010 at 10:50 pmkassandrasduplex says:
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Oh I got a message for you, linzloo08.
Are you ready?
2 words: Bring it!
February 9th, 2010 at 10:51 pmkassandrasduplex says:
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I see dbadass is still talking to himself. Sad.
Well, you can tell when someone’s talking to themselves; you do that all of the time, right?
February 9th, 2010 at 10:51 pmalpuz3 says:
You’re right. What was I thinking? These two new ones are just BJ’s new “friends.” Having a sybil type personality makes it easy to create them. Its also what happens when you spend most of you’re adult life living in Mommy’s basement.
February 9th, 2010 at 10:53 pmSomeone who truly can not stand up for themselves changes their name. Pathetic.
February 9th, 2010 at 10:54 pmkassandrasduplex says:
Forgot the period, loser.
If you’re not kind to yourself, how can you expect others to be kind to you?
February 9th, 2010 at 10:54 pmI see that all the “new” sockpuppets are here. I still find it noteworthy that they all appear within a couple minutes of each other and never before the drive-thru closes.
February 9th, 2010 at 10:55 pmkassandrasduplex says:
J. D. Hayworth.
The teabagger thinks we care?
February 9th, 2010 at 10:55 pmJim,
This one has been doing this for years. Think about that. Pretending to be someone else for hours and days at a time on a web-site…
How freakin’ nutz does one have to be?
Poor bastard.
February 9th, 2010 at 10:56 pmIf it talks like a Nazi and thinks like a Nazi…
February 9th, 2010 at 10:58 pmAwwww, I must have hurt the poor trollie’s feelings while it was in some other incarnation.
Is the teabagger troll now going to complain that I called it a name?
February 9th, 2010 at 11:00 pmDefine ‘far left” loon…
February 9th, 2010 at 11:01 pm248 Jeffy Bovine says:
The Doctor says you’ll need years of therapy?
February 9th, 2010 at 11:01 pm256, the only thing these far left loons care about is Fox News.
February 9th, 2010 at 11:02 pm—
I don’t have tv but I do care about human decency and shared responsibility…
Okay gang! Time to sign off for the night. See all my TP Peeps tomorrow!
February 9th, 2010 at 11:02 pmGoodnight, JimWolf.
Don’t forget to collect your Soros Bucks before you leave.
February 9th, 2010 at 11:04 pmKayInMaine says:
Do you know why there isn’t any natural snow at the Winter Olympics in Canada this year? And I don’t want to hear, “But Kay! It’s February! It’s always nice and warm in February in Canada for crying out loud!”.
Well actually, there is plenty of natural snow in Whistler. The problem is with Cypress Mountain in North Vancouver. It’s not that unusual for the snow there to disappear due to the incessant rain that Vancouver gets. It’s seems to me to be a mistake to put events there.
February 9th, 2010 at 11:05 pmAnyone know where our new troll friends are?
February 9th, 2010 at 11:08 pmI still wanna rip them up and tear them to pieces…
linzloo08,
I think they made a run to the convenience store for Cheetos and Red Bull — shoplifting, of course. Their moms no longer give them money.
February 9th, 2010 at 11:09 pmDoes anyone know how Borgen’s Haitian effort is going? I asked at the Privacy center but jess was unsure…
February 9th, 2010 at 11:10 pmToo bad the stinky VDT doesn’t have more friends. One of its biggest goals in life is to vote one of us into oblivion.
February 9th, 2010 at 11:14 pmI think they made a run to the convenience store for Cheetos and Red Bull — shoplifting, of course. Their moms no longer give them money.
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February 9th, 2010 at 11:14 pmWere they wearing the same hoodie they had on all week and a cap with a straight brim?
dbadass says:
Were they wearing the same hoodie they had on all week and a cap with a straight brim?
Yep, as well as girl jeans, dirty non-descript colored hair, and at least one facial piercing (bottom lip or eyebrow).
February 9th, 2010 at 11:17 pmdbadass says:
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I think they made a run to the convenience store for Cheetos and Red Bull — shoplifting, of course. Their moms no longer give them money.
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Were they wearing the same hoodie they had on all week and a cap with a straight brim?
Yup it’s them, all right.
February 9th, 2010 at 11:17 pmWhere did u see them?
February 9th, 2010 at 11:22 pmWhere did u see them?
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February 9th, 2010 at 11:24 pmI have heard they are known to congregate near “food courts”
olbermannwatch… heh.
This is what you do?
poor bastard.
February 9th, 2010 at 11:24 pmIs ByeByeBiden another one of our resident trolls?
February 9th, 2010 at 11:25 pmYeah, I gotta agree; linking to OlbermannWatch is pretty fu(king pathetic.
February 9th, 2010 at 11:26 pmByeByeBiden says:
One word: Pathetic.
You’re right patsy. That one word describes you and the rest of the “teabagger loons as O’Reilly calls you”. Pathetic…
February 9th, 2010 at 11:26 pmIt must be so painful not to be able to understand facts or other similar concepts, so one must focus on Keith Olbermann or Al Gore as a source of all troubles.
The troll is right; it’s pathetic.
February 9th, 2010 at 11:26 pm276
I thought you like Mark Koldys. Why are you calling him pathetic?
February 9th, 2010 at 11:26 pmgrown man. Weird I tell you….
February 9th, 2010 at 11:26 pmlinzloo08 brought to you by Kaiser Permanente says:
Is ByeByeBiden another one of our resident trolls?
Prolly “OlbySucks” or some other clone.
February 9th, 2010 at 11:27 pmZooey (sponsored by Planned Parenthood) says:
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linzloo08 brought to you by Kaiser Permanente says:
Is ByeByeBiden another one of our resident trolls?
Prolly “OlbySucks” or some other clone.
Figures.
February 9th, 2010 at 11:27 pmpete:
Our fine doctor is an old adversary who in spite of his new clean sock still has that same old troll stench.
There may be a surprise in store for the proprietor of Troll Central and one of his financial backers, a few days after the start of spring.
Revenge is a dish best served cold.
February 9th, 2010 at 11:27 pmgrown man?
February 9th, 2010 at 11:28 pmSnow Storms ‘Seem To Contradict Al Gore’s Hysterical Global Warming Theories’
That’s true. It seems.
That is, assuming you are sufficiently misinformed, ignorant of the issue at hand, or flat-out stupid.
Sort of like the deniers in this thread (hello, Big John!).
February 9th, 2010 at 11:29 pmByeByeBiden says:
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No wonder olbermann is sinking like a lead balloon. Hand puppetry is “news?” LOL!
Nope you got it backwards, kid. Your idol, Glenn Beck, is the puppetmaster who’s sinking faster than the Titanic.
February 9th, 2010 at 11:30 pm285 Scathing video.
Yes. It was pretty damn funny watching Moose Boogers make a fool of herself while the cameras were taping her.
February 9th, 2010 at 11:30 pmByeByeBiden
February 9th, 2010 at 11:31 pmYou look foolish. Why not just get a good night’s sleep….
Umm dbadass, I don’t think a good night’s sleep is going to help ByeByeBiden, unless he can learn through osmosis or something like that.
February 9th, 2010 at 11:32 pmByeByeBiden says:
Hand puppetry is “news?”
It’s mockery. Do try to keep up.
You never miss Countdown, do you? :-D
February 9th, 2010 at 11:33 pmSean Hannity claimed that the recent spate of winter snow storms in the Washington, D.C. region clearly means that the planet isn’t warming.
Wow, Sean has really put in the time doing the research.
He takes the weather in one week from one location of all the locations on the entire planet…and walla, there’s no global warming
What a fuc**** dunce…or maybe he just thinks his viewers are dunces.
February 9th, 2010 at 11:33 pmwhy bother, this one’s gone… real gone.
poor bastard.
February 9th, 2010 at 11:33 pmThat’s nice, Pat. Now run along…
February 9th, 2010 at 11:34 pmActually, revenge is a dish best served repeatedly.
February 9th, 2010 at 11:34 pmByeByeBiden says:
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Becks ratings have more than tripled. Olbermanns has 1/3 Becks audience. LOL!
Sources please.
February 9th, 2010 at 11:35 pmNo wonder Algore is getting rich on this scam.
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February 9th, 2010 at 11:35 pmpatrick5:
How does the pope fit in? What about the NWS?
This comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Can you imagine if the part of your day that you looked forward to is the part where you act like a dick online…
February 9th, 2010 at 11:37 pmHow do these losers end up like this?
BBB@300… you keep saying that, like it means something.
why?
Why is that important?
February 9th, 2010 at 11:38 pmTim43 says:
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Al Gore loves his useful idiots. They continue to help line his pockets with gold while he produces one of the biggest carbon footprints of any individual in the United States.
http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/national_world&id=5072659
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/nov/24/hiding-evidence-of-global-cooling/
Really TinyTim? U do realize that the Washington Times is very slanted to the right?
February 9th, 2010 at 11:38 pmCan you please give me evidence to back up your claim of “global cooling” from a reliable source?
300 Jeffy Bovine
And Beck is exactly what?
What does that say about morons like you and Mark Koldys who jack off nightly with the “all important demo” and Keith Olbermann’s pictures?
February 9th, 2010 at 11:39 pmByeByeBiden says:
Olbermanns has 1/3 Becks audience.
You watch Countdown repeatedly online, don’t you?
Your desk area must be an encrusted DNA nightmare…
February 9th, 2010 at 11:39 pmBBB has ODS.
February 9th, 2010 at 11:40 pmGlobal=U.S. to the geographically challenged deniers.
pffft..
Hope all this precipitation causes a landslide taking InsHannitys home away… poetic
February 9th, 2010 at 11:41 pmpatrick5 says:
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What is funny is how Think Progress sites the error filled IPCC.
Obviously this religion needs a reformation.
Ok if you are so sure that it’s “filled with errors” , can you please be so kind and point out some examples for me?
February 9th, 2010 at 11:41 pmBBB,
February 9th, 2010 at 11:42 pmJeffyB honey, why you trying to hide from me sugarplum?
Come give us some oh that sweet slurpin lovin baby!
patrick5 says:
What is funny is how Think Progress sites the error filled IPCC.
List the errors — specifically. With links, of course.
February 9th, 2010 at 11:42 pmZooey,
The VDT does make one wonder about TP’s registration system. If it were really that simple to log in under multiple identities? It would only seem logical (yes I know applying logic to stupid trolls is a trap) that the VDT would find a way to vote various posts into oblivion. And yet? They never seem to be able to mange more than two down votes on any particular post.
This state of affairs leads me to the conclusion that TP could effectively ban certain IPs but they choose not to. It’s really pissing me off.
February 9th, 2010 at 11:42 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
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Got to hand it to Al “Carbon Footprint” Gore. He has created the hysteria of Global Warming and then positioned himself to profit from it.
Gore Invests In Carbon Credit Company, Will Media Care?
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/06/04/gore-invests-carbon-credit-company-will-media-care
Tiny Tim grows a third head: Does anyone care?
February 9th, 2010 at 11:43 pmpatrick5 says:
Let’s see if we can keep this faux religion of the left straight. A lot of snow, global warming. No snow, global warming. Cat 5 hurricane, global warming. No hurricanes, global warming. Mild winter, global warming. Bad winter, global warming.
Earthquake, global warming. Tsunami, global warming.
No wonder Algore is getting rich on this scam.
You’re a little off track there genius.
Analyze the TWO words: Global warming,
Do you see the word snow, or hurricane or winter or Al Gore in those words?
Here, I’ll help you out, little fella.
1. Global means pertaining to the entire planet or globe.
2. Warming means an increase in temperature
Hence global warming would be an increase in temperature over the entire planet.
For the next lesson we’ll discuss long term vs short term…and no, when it gets cooler after the sun goes down, that does not necessarily disprove global warming either.
You should have stayed in school.
February 9th, 2010 at 11:44 pmOn our 43rd sock puppet ehh Timmeh?
Pathetic LOSER
February 9th, 2010 at 11:44 pmpatrick5:
Pattycakes:
You are going down with Odom and you have got that promise in writing!
It took me 11 months to finally collect that elusive final piece of the puzzle. Three years of patiently collecting little things here and there is over.
This years April Fools day is going to take on a whole new meaning.
February 9th, 2010 at 11:48 pm295. linzloo08 brought to you by Kaiser Permanente says:
Well, BBBalls is vegetatively stupid, so it might work …
February 9th, 2010 at 11:49 pmJust goes to sho what a dumb shit that guy is. Snow is a form of precipitation, not a temperature. If he wants to make accurate conclusions, he should seek facts, not moronic observations.
February 9th, 2010 at 11:50 pmRandomChaos (Lobbyist for Spews Corp) says:
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On our 43rd sock puppet ehh Timmeh?
Pathetic LOSER
February 9th, 2010 at 11:44 pm
That’s actually his IQ …On an incredibly good day ….
February 9th, 2010 at 11:51 pm319. linzloo08 brought to you by Kaiser Permanente says:
Linz, TT does not have even ONE head.
February 9th, 2010 at 11:56 pmpatrick5 says:
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February 9th, 2010 at 11:52 pm
Post a legitimate source/link , pudlicker …
February 9th, 2010 at 11:56 pmSay, Pat. You gotta link to the Nat’l Enquire too?
February 9th, 2010 at 11:56 pmpete:
It won’t work, the little buggers are using a proxy. I do have a couple of ideas that will make the trolls current tactic all but futile.
February 9th, 2010 at 11:57 pmThe first thing that has to be done is to allow readers not logged in to see the up-down votes.
My house isn’t burning, so I don’t believe in fire.
February 9th, 2010 at 11:57 pmpatrick5 says:
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Errors in IPCC Report. Here is a start on your education.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/environment/climatechange/7177230/New-errors-in-IPCC-climate-change-report.html
http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/world-news/ipccs-report-on-himalayan-glaciers-could-have-more-errors-admits-pachauri_100308454.html
Sooo they made some mistakes.. Doesn’t take away the main point of the eperiment though. Climate change is happening.
February 9th, 2010 at 11:57 pmScientists do that occasionally. Why do you think that their research has to be peer-reviewed or tested before being published?
Two citations — from the thousands of climate research studies in the IPCC. Hey, the IPCC is being honest about admitting these errors — unlike the climate deniers who lie about everything.
**pats patty5 on the head**
February 9th, 2010 at 11:58 pmIt’s hilarious how pattingcock and TimVacusuck look to a (moronic) high school drop-out for their “scientific facts” ……
February 9th, 2010 at 11:58 pmpatrick5 says:
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New York Times.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/02/09/science/earth/09climate.html
A credible source, peppermint patty.
February 9th, 2010 at 11:59 pmAl Gore’s movie, and the IPCC report for that matter, are attempts to explain science to the scientifically illiterate. As such, sacrifices must be made in the hope that some idiot will have an epiphany.
The oft imagined “revolution of the scientists” is looking like a better idea with each passing day.
February 9th, 2010 at 11:59 pm**pats patty5 on the head**
Yes… why must we pat Pat on the head?
poor Bastard.
February 10th, 2010 at 12:02 amTim43 says:
Got to hand it to Al “Carbon Footprint” Gore. He has created the hysteria of Global Warming and then positioned himself to profit from it.
Gore Invests In Carbon Credit Company, Will Media Care?
Considering he inherited significant stakes in coal and oil interests, the fact that he’s investing his own money in clean energy would suggest he really believes in it. If his motive was financial, it would be more efficient to keep his stake in petrochemicals and deny global warming, as your masters do.
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patrick5 says:
Errors in IPCC Report. Here is a start on your education.
Already dealt with back in post 203.
http://www.prlog.org/10501056-himalayan-climate-change-controversy.html
OK, so the Himalayan glaciers will all be gone in 2050-2060 instead of 2035. How does that support your position at all?
February 10th, 2010 at 12:02 amSome excerpts:
“Several of the recent accusations have proved to be half-truths …. The panel, in reviewing complaints about possible errors in its report, has so far found that one was justified and another was “baseless.” The general consensus among mainstream scientists is that the errors are in any case minor and do not undermine the report’s conclusions.”
““These people want to distort the picture for their own ends,” Dr. Pachauri said, noting that the report was released two years ago and that the criticisms were only now coming into the limelight.”
etc.
February 10th, 2010 at 12:03 amA couple of errors in the WG2 &/or WG3 reports does not qualify as “error riddled,” a fact which even someone as grotesguely stupid as TT ought to know, but is clearly too cognitively vacuous to even try to understand.
One discussion by actual scientists can be found here:
http://www.realclimate.org/index.php/archives/2010/01/the-ipcc-is-not-infallible-shock/
A point to keep in mind is that the WG2 and WG3 committees were expressly permitted to incorporate “gray” literature into their reports. The scientific basic committee, WG1, was permitted no such latitude.
Again, as everyone who is not a slobbering imbecile long ago figured out (and hence, remains a complete mystery to the likes of TT, BBBalls and their vapid, pathetic ilk) the presence of a couple of inconsequential errors that amount to nothing more than single paragraphs in publications that come to many hundreds of pages bears no significant weight WRT the overall report, the conclusions of which have not only been proven to be consistently, but overwhelmingly conservative in the light of accumulating empirical evidence.
February 10th, 2010 at 12:04 amPattycakes,
You need some BASIC Reading and Comprehension training sweety.
” The general consensus among mainstream scientists is that the errors are in any case minor and do not undermine the report’s conclusions.”-NY Times
until then.. STFU
February 10th, 2010 at 12:04 amyou can argue about Gore all you want BUT to interpret recent snow fall in the northern hemisphere as evidence that “climate change” is a hoax or a joke is either intellectually dishonest or just plain stupid
Either way Hannity, his followers and believers are jusr plain idiots
February 10th, 2010 at 12:04 am@336 I accidentally clicked on the vote up button.
February 10th, 2010 at 12:04 amSorry about that.
patrick5 says:
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Is that why India rejected this fool completely and have set up their own Himalayan study group? Over a typo?
Prove it.
February 10th, 2010 at 12:06 amPattycakes:
Did you read the article you linked?
Thanks for playing.
February 10th, 2010 at 12:07 am336. patrick5 says:
As I just noted, the errors that are most prominent are the ones where the IPCC substantially underestimated the speed and devastation of the oncoming anthropogenic climate forcings. As people who — unlike you — are actually capable of some infinitessimal scintilla of cognitive activity can easily figure out for themselves, the main problem with the IPCC AR4 is that it understated the problems of AGW.
February 10th, 2010 at 12:12 ampatrick5 says:
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Is that why India rejected this fool completely and have set up their own Himalayan study group? Over a typo?
February 10th, 2010 at 12:06 am
Please post any link that claims your moronic assh0le self , that jerkoff She-Yawn Insanity , or FOX “News” are even semi-legitimate or are even remotely credible , jackass ..
February 10th, 2010 at 12:13 amThis is the same way that creationists go after evolution. They hold that any gap in the information, any mistake made by anyone, any paradigm change and any malfeasance on anybody’s part constitutes proof that all of the mass of evidence collected by everybody must be false. Then they cry “it’s just a theory!” Then they claim it was all invented by a vast global conspiracy.
February 10th, 2010 at 12:15 amI cannot tell if it is at TP’s end or mine, but the ability to post has all but disappeared. That being the case, I might as well do likewise.
February 10th, 2010 at 12:17 ampatrick5 says:
How many mistakes does a scientific study have to have before it is called BS?
Clearly, you do not understand what the IPCC is. Here’s a hint: It’s not ONE study.
Consequently, you cannot call “BS” on something about which you haven’t a clue.
February 10th, 2010 at 12:20 amMaybe Hannity should ask the people of Vancouver, BC about global warming. They are having to truck in massive amounts of snow for the winter Olympics because the weather has been too warm and dry.
Both events are typical of El-Nino.
There are trends within trends. That is what we are seeing this year. El-Nino within global warming equals increase snow in the lower 48 and this year exactly fits that pattern.
February 10th, 2010 at 12:20 amPatty5,
Prove that every single study in the IPCC was funded with government money.
You assume everyone is dishonest because you know YOU are not to be trusted. Pathetic.
February 10th, 2010 at 12:26 amReggie,
I get the whole proxy server thing. However, I’m not so sure that the stupid trolls have what it takes to really game the system. I think that a better tactic would be to automatically ban any identity that gets two posts voted into oblivion.
My observations lead me to the conclusion that stupid people are inherently lazy. A few days of being forced to create a new username every few minutes would serve as a deterrent to all but the most committed trolls. It’s not like we can’t recognize the voice behind the innumerable sockpuppets. They really needn’t enter a name at all.
February 10th, 2010 at 12:30 amPattycakes:
Tell Ms Mark Koldys not to be jealous of O’Reilly and Odom.
There will be a special surprise for her too.
February 10th, 2010 at 12:32 am“dr” let’s remind everyone how ‘truthful’ and “genius” you truly are:
drhunt says:
#391 Zooey-you should KNOW how bad it is to edit comments to fit your agenda…it just makes you look stupid…don’t you think?
“I only affirmed the conjecture, but only after much delay”.
Shall I explain to the uneducated what that means?…
February 3rd, 2010 at 9:41 pm
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Zooey linked to – YOUR WORDS:
drhunt says:
As a doctor myself, I can assure you Tiller was a hack, and NO physician I know has an ounce of respect for what he did. I can’t even believe his wife could live with the man, knowing full well how he “practiced” medicine.
February 1st, 2010 at 12:35 am
February 3rd, 2010 at 9:59 pm
February 10th, 2010 at 12:45 ampatrick5 says:
I hold that when “scientists” take government money to tell the government what it wants to hear…
Which government? And why would they want to hear that?
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patrick5 says:
I’m in agreement with the government of India on IPCC, it is a religous cult.
Please cite where they said it is a religious cult, thx.
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patrick5 says:
Recap of the bogus IPCC report’s recent woes.
Are you going to address any of the specific debunkings of your claims presented? Particularly that of Reggie at 349?
You’re just repeating yourself here. If you can’t respond to the responses to your claims, then repeating them isn’t going to provide any further support for them.
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drhunt says:
Now it appears that the NOAA and even NASA were complicit in “cooking” the global warming statistics?
Does it? Cite, please.
By the way, what about all of the other hundreds of independent studies compiled by thousands of independent researchers for scores of independent organizations?
February 10th, 2010 at 12:46 amdrhunt:
Give it a break, nobody is listening to you anymore, you’re a pompous twit, as well as a pathological liar.
Did you know that Gore has donated 100% of his earnings of his academy award winning movie and his Nobel Prize money to an organization that is going to use the money to further advance public awareness of the danger of climate change, as well as promote green technology?
February 10th, 2010 at 12:46 amFor anybody who’s starting to get confused by the wingnuts’ campaign to confuse everybody, here’s a nice overview of the situation regarding this IPCC report
So what was the error? For the third time in this thread, here:
The only error here was regarding when the Himalayan glaciers will have vanished, not whether they will or what’s causing it. That’s it. That’s what patrick5 is using to howl that global warming is a hoax.
February 10th, 2010 at 12:51 amIt isnt any suprise that MORONS like hunt, Pathetic Patrick, Timmeh and Hannity are too stupid to know the difference between weather and climate. It is also not suprising they are so brainwashed they repeat such idiocy long after they have been debunked. What is really suprising is they have so little self respect they are PROUD of their abject stupidity
February 10th, 2010 at 12:52 amNo El Bruce Pathetic Patrick will NOT address any debunkings of his idiotic recycled propaganda. He is far too stupid and addressing them would require higher brain function which is frankly beyond his wildest dreams. He wont address them until Rush TELLS him what to think about them
February 10th, 2010 at 12:55 amWhat is it about Global Warming threads that bring out the most demented of trollkind?
February 10th, 2010 at 12:58 ampete says:
They have dozens if not hundreds of new identities already registered. They are not exactly what they appear to be, unfortunately I can’t explain it to you at this venue.
We are finally getting our first real snow storm of the year this evening. It has been an easy winter here and day time temperatures have been hovering around freezing since January and we’ve had nothing anywhere close to zero so far. I will be pulling out the snow blower for the first time since last March.
February 10th, 2010 at 1:01 amTypical tactics of deniers…
Fabricated quote used to discredit climate scientist
February 10th, 2010 at 1:05 am“A quotation by one of the world’s most eminent climate scientists was supposed to demonstrate the depths to which he and his ilk would stoop to create scare stories exaggerating the threat of global warming.”
Reggie,
I grok. However, I would still like to see those who run TP force them to use those alternate identities at a faster clip. Unless, of course, my suspicions that those who run TP are complicit. Certain recent developments are adding weight to that dark suspicion.
On a more encouraging note, it is amusing to see the frequency of name changes go up when we discuss the trolls’ motives and methods. It’s like watching a centipede trying to cover it’s tracks.
February 10th, 2010 at 1:08 amAnd they will say that all the dams in the USA if safe, no tremors in Yellowstone Park, that volcanoes in Hawaii do not release lava daily. Ha!!
February 10th, 2010 at 1:11 amMajority of todays talk radio host and TV ones, remind me of my shortwave listening days…when the communist spoke badly of the USA.
Developments?
February 10th, 2010 at 1:16 amLaszlo Panaflex says:
Typical tactics of deniers…
Fabricated quote used to discredit climate scientist
“A quotation by one of the world’s most eminent climate scientists was supposed to demonstrate the depths to which he and his ilk would stoop to create scare stories exaggerating the threat of global warming.”
Wow, that’s amazing. To think that literally millions of websites repeated that quote in a the denier echo chamber without a single one of them checking the source to see if it was true.
Which just goes to show the upside-down degree of proof required for each side. According to the wingnuts, climate scientists have to provide 100% perfect information at all times; if any one of them ever makes an error, then the whole thing is a hoax. On the other hand, the deniers themselves are free to be factually incorrect on pretty much a constant basis, and as far as wingnuts are concerned it’s all OK.
It reminds me of the radically shifted goalposts they use in claiming that Sarah Palin is intelligent, but Barack Obama really believes there are 57 states.
February 10th, 2010 at 1:16 amEugene Debs,
I don’t think that the trolls are any more, or less, demented on global warming threads. They just appear more demented because their position requires them to actually deny empirical data rather than just political opinions.
One can say “liberals are bad” and give it a sheen of reason. There are even several “bad” liberals to give such a position some weight. But? They really flail when faced by the simple, and irrefutable, fact that CO2 and global average temperature are going up together. They might as well try to deny that gravity exists and objects only fall because the ground sucks, or Goddidit.
February 10th, 2010 at 1:17 amPete
Thats true and I have to admit they are just as demented and pathological on Birther threads
February 10th, 2010 at 1:20 amPete:
February 10th, 2010 at 1:27 amI will try to catch you online later in the week, I want to bounce a couple thoughts I have about this strange troll behavior.
Good night.
G’night, Reggie.
While I do enjoy the occasional dispassionate discussion of troll behavior, my tolerance is going down. If I get too engaged I feel like soaking my brain in bleach and that’s just not healthy!
February 10th, 2010 at 1:29 amPete – Reggie
I know the stupid Jeffy Bovine “Internet vigilante” and his Mark Koldys boyfriends will read this and think they have hit the gold mine.
Banning IP addresses does not work because now Internet providers assign random IPs addys (within ranges and to their discretion) to thwart cyber attacks through their networks.
In addition, there is the use of proxies.
So, how does one site gets rid of unwanted pests?
- Live moderators.
The problems with moderated commenting are:
1) Slows down the interactivity of the site.
2) Requires a human reading every single post (volunteers or paid employees)
Reggie, you may remember this was one of Twatjies claims to fame.
In my opinion, the current up/down vote system used by Think Progress works pretty well because it leaves to the rest of the community the decision to shut down a comment. Also, it doesn’t take but a few seconds to read a few words and understand the meaning of a post, especially when its author has earned a reputation and is familiar to the rest of the community.
The next step, as Pete mentioned, would be a system allowing the community to ban a given user after a certain number of posts have been voted down.
I suppose that is the purpose of the “flag” feature, which leads to the questions of, does anyone actually use it? Does the TP staff actually read the flag reports?
I think the answer is right there. A combination of “voted down” comments and “flagged” comments.
We all know the moron trolls don’t have the numbers.
If a troll accumulates a certain number of “voted down” comments it should be equal to a number of “flags” within a thread, then the clown and its moniker will be expelled by the system. No live moderation required.
Reggie,
Please keep in mind the Olbermann stalker site is a creation of and supposedly run by Robert Cox. He also has another blog, Media Bloggers Association where he is “president.”
Mark Koldys writes plenty of tripe for OlbyWatch and his own site. They both have professional legal backgrounds. They both are Fox gNOpig wanna-be’s. Twatjie was listed as a “contributor” to Olby Watch, which means jack in light of his handy work elsewhere.
The connection between Robert Cox and Mark Koldys is undeniable, but I don’t know of any way to connect them to Eric Odom. Double check your work.
February 10th, 2010 at 1:40 am.
Shorter (ins)Hannity:
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February 10th, 2010 at 1:52 amjohnny dol1ar – Billdo Assistant Minister of Propaganda.
Agreed.
I did use the flagging option and, as nearly as I can tell, there was no effect. The same monikers continued to appear and the shit just got more vile. On the other hand, I have also emailed Faiz directly with specific and flagrant instances of abuse, two death threats and two “namejackings”, and those monikers have not reappeared. The person or persons have been forced to abandon those particular identities.
I realize that it’s impossible, short of holding comments for review, to eliminate the trolls and I don’t advocate that. It would destroy the spontaneity and, probably, force a lot of good people to give up. However, TP could make it more difficult, and frustrating, to willfully abuse the system. If nothing else, I would enjoy the image of a stupid troll, teeth gnashed and face red, being forced to switch identities every few minutes. That could happen, at least during office hours, and it just may drive the “casual trolls” away.
February 10th, 2010 at 2:10 amDon’t woory. We’ll get back at the retard in six months when it’s burning hot outside. Then what’s he going to conclude?
February 10th, 2010 at 2:17 amBTW – i have concluded that Jim DeMint (R-SC), like all the remaining Republicans, is a border-line retard. Funny how retards always try to rule the world isn’t it? Something in their state of arrested development…
February 10th, 2010 at 2:23 amdol1ar,
I utilize the trifecta…
… Vote down, Report/flag with post #/citation/time stamp, and post an alert within the thread for other readers who care.
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February 10th, 2010 at 2:28 amApe-Man,
In six months, (ins)Hannity will still be citing the snowstorm of 2010 as his proof. He doesn’t get that average global temperature is based on the entire GLOBE…
… Not just the Eastern USA.
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February 10th, 2010 at 2:32 amtombaker says:
Sean Hannity’s “scientific concept = guy who used to be VP” theory is about the fruitiest thing I’ve ever heard.
What next, Sean Hannity – Holocaust Denialism?
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I wouldn’t doubt that Hannity denies the holocaust. He does hang out with neo-nazis.
Ape-Man says:
February 10th, 2010 at 2:49 amDon’t woory. We’ll get back at the retard in six months when it’s burning hot outside. Then what’s he going to conclude?
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Maybe he’ll conclude that Al Gore found some way to control the weather?
Has anyone determined how, just how, it is possible to be as stupid as a Republican? I mean with classes on Creationism and a Creationism museum I suppose we can extrapolate, but this is like saying if we had no laws we would have no crime. it’s just a fundamentally brain damaged thing to say and is so wrong that “wrong” isn’t a strong enough word to describe it.
Republicans have taken “stupid” to new depths.
February 10th, 2010 at 2:59 ambizarrobrain (Sponsored by Tysons chicken in a tube!) says:
I wouldn’t doubt that Hannity denies the holocaust. He does hang out with neo-nazis.
Citation provided.
February 10th, 2010 at 3:01 amElBruce,
Thank you for providing a citation :)
scytherius,
February 10th, 2010 at 3:12 amThere is more than one Creationist museum, there is one in Kentucky and one in Texas. From the images that I have seen it’s like Jurassic Park for idiots. They have people riding T-rex’s (which Ken Ham from Answers in Genesis claims is a vegetarian). These people are nuts.
You mean where Sarah “The Brain Wizard” Palin whores herself out doing tricks with Chris Wallace every night?
February 10th, 2010 at 4:10 amThere’s this massive hoax going on. All the scientists are in on it. But only a few alienated white males can see it…
My Only God is Rahm
February 10th, 2010 at 5:50 amDon’t panic trolls….but….it was cold here in Maine this morning in February! Wow. Isn’t that something? Global warming must be a hoax if it’s cold in Maine in February. Right?
February 10th, 2010 at 7:00 amClimate, health care, the economy…………
all problems that are going to boil over and the republicans are wrong on all of them, just as they always are.
What will it take for the American people to see it?
February 10th, 2010 at 7:04 amEtched in stone and the chrome dome is toast!
February 10th, 2010 at 7:30 amdrhunt says:
Am I the only one struck by the irony of a supposed doctor, crying because science invalidates his viewpoint?
The only difference between Doc Hunt and an aboriginal witchdoctor is a bone through the nose.
February 10th, 2010 at 8:40 amPublic discourse in America these days make kindergarten tantrums look intelligent by comparison. I look at Hannity and wonder “how much stupid vs. how much pure malice” and I’m stumped. He seems to be 100% both.
February 10th, 2010 at 8:54 amHannity is a illiterate, non-educated Northeastern bohunk with a big yap and no brains.
Will progressives ever get their act together and develop news media to challenge these ignoramuses?
February 10th, 2010 at 9:04 amAs someone who has taught middle school children in geography and earth science one of the first things taught to children is the difference between weather and climate. I would hope (I know, I know, that is not popular with the Hannity set.) that we could expect our tv talking heads to at least have the knowledge we expect of a middle school student.
February 10th, 2010 at 9:13 amdrhunt says:
Now it appears that the NOAA and even NASA were complicit in “cooking” the global warming statistics? Whoa! Heads are going to roll. I think Al Gore should give back 2/3rds of the money he received for his falsified book, give back his Oscar, and sneak off into the dead of a wintry, bitterly cold night never to be heard from again. The only “inconvenient truth” is the depths of his balderdash.
Balderdash? Balderdash? WTF? What year is this?
“Donner, party of 3 minus 1 = 2, right this way”
Are you a cannibal? You use words cannibals have used so you must be a cannibal.
(Now I can refer to this post as proof you are a cannibal. You can’t escape the charge because you can’t prove you aren’t a cannibal and, as you can see, I have said you ARE a cannibal. Therefore, I am right: you are a cannibal).
February 10th, 2010 at 9:20 amRupert Murdoch and his energy corporation pals have decided the “news” message for FoxNews concerning any ozone depletion or climate change issues.
They employ non-educated nitwits and dingalings to read this crap.
It is received in homes across the nation by non-educated nitwits and dingalings,
those who when younger always distracted the students who really wanted to learn.
The U.S. of A. = Idiocracy.
February 10th, 2010 at 9:25 amI wonder if history will ever reflect that Jimmy Carter and Al Gore have been right and are intelligent people and that republicans have been wrong all along?
February 10th, 2010 at 9:25 amWTF?
Has the D.C. ’snowtorious’ weather event shut down TP?
We want our Thinkfast thread, please!
February 10th, 2010 at 9:28 amSarah Palin, Sean Hannithy, Gretchen Carlson, Steve Doocy, Glenn Beck and Neil Cavuto are the sort of basement-level “intellect” employed by FoxNews, the public relations firm in full news media drag totally commited to spreading the “Good News” of Corporatism all over the world.
Each one of those clowns would probably flunk a freshman-level world history quiz at a local university.
Why are the militantly stupid rewarded so lavishly in this society?
IDIOCRACY…
February 10th, 2010 at 9:38 amyou want creationists and flat earthers to understand ’science’? that’s like making an infant read…
February 10th, 2010 at 9:41 amAnyone who has taken high school chemistry and physics knows the connection between temperature and water vapor content of air. So Hannity and Fox are conducting this debate at the level of people who are basically uneducated.
February 10th, 2010 at 9:43 amIgnoring the stupidity of people confusing weather with climate, I have found the ideal answer to these dumb comments: simply point out that the Winter Olympics are currently suffering from severe snow shortages and no-one at Fox seems to be connecting this to global warming…
February 10th, 2010 at 9:45 amgpandersen says:
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Ignoring the stupidity of people confusing weather with climate, I have found the ideal answer to these dumb comments: simply point out that the Winter Olympics are currently suffering from severe snow shortages and no-one at Fox seems to be connecting this to global warming…
The funny thing about you progressive elite, you think your just so much smarter than everyone else. RFK jr proclaimed because of global warming Washington DC didn’t get snow storms anymore while lamenting about his childhood and sledding. Yeah right, and now the pointy head know it all’s are say OH wait, its the warming that is causeing the snow because warm air holds more moisture, but OH wait, you have others saying warming has caused shortage or rain in the Amazon. The scientist that proclaimed that the himalayan glaciers are melting admits he has not data to back it up, the whole hoax has been exposed, and now the weather doesn’t cooperate. A wise man is smart enough to know he doesn’t know it all and seeks the truth. You on the left have been stupified by your belief in your own intellegence. Its becomeing very entertaining to watch.
February 10th, 2010 at 10:32 amRandy, you are a retard.
February 10th, 2010 at 10:46 amGlobal warming theory
Remember this everyone.
February 10th, 2010 at 10:51 amevangenital says:
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Randy, you are a retard.
LOL… and your ingnorant response really proves your mental metal there evangenital. Time for you to follow your leader for whatever is the next buggoboo that requires a major ecomomic and social overhaul of our system. Ya’ll are just looking so stupid riding this global warming-climate change pony, but I enjoy it, it means it slows down your progressive evolution because American has not been dumbed down enough yet to buy your nonsense.
February 10th, 2010 at 10:53 amIt’s not that Shammity and the rest of these clowns don’t get it. They absolutely get it.
February 10th, 2010 at 10:55 amIt’s just that their corporate masters have them on a short leash. When they say jump, the Faux crowd asks “How High”?.
when they say Shit! the crowd asks what color and how high?
So, Randall, Washington state just experienced the WARMEST January on record.
Mere coincidence, right?
February 10th, 2010 at 10:59 amRandy says:
That is simply not true and if you would have taken the time to read the comments in this thread, such as El Bruces comment here, and my comment here, you would have not wasted keystrokes and valuable bandwidth.
Your astroturf spin machine talking points are old and tired. Go back to Troll Central and ask Eric Odom to spin out some new ones that are a little fresher.
February 10th, 2010 at 11:02 amSo, here is the right’s thought process:
-It’s snowing here, so therefore global warming is a hoax.
-I’m not hungry, so therefore there is no world hunger.
-It’s raining here, so therefore no drought exists.
-I’ve not been blown up, so therefore George Bush kept me safe.
-I have health insurance, so therefore no one else needs it.
-I did not do anything wrong, and have nothing to hide, so therefore we don’t need due process.
-I know I was born in America, so I don’t have to prove it, but Obama needs to prove it.
-I don’t have to hear Rush to know everything he says is just humor and satire, but I also don’t have to hear a liberal say the exact same thing to know it’s horrible and offensive.
-I have a job, so therefore no one else needs help finding a job.
-etc.
You get the picture. They’re a bunch of self-centered dullards, with nothing but contempt for others.
February 10th, 2010 at 11:04 amCue the ’so is gravity argument’ in 3…2…1.
February 10th, 2010 at 11:08 amRUCerious Brought to you by MalWart your source for cheap plastic crap says:
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So, Randall, Washington state just experienced the WARMEST January on record.
Mere coincidence, right?
So, which is it, global warming causeing snow storms on the east coast or unusually warm weather in pacific North West? If you would check it out, there is an El Nino (natural occuring) that is effecting the weather in Washington State and lack of snow in Vancouver.
February 10th, 2010 at 11:15 amReggie, I don’t consider you or Elbruce as legitimate sources, and I was not responding to your post. I was respoding to the post I had quoted. But in respect to Himalayan glaciers try this link http://news.discovery.com/earth/himalayas-glaciers-shrink.html, and that is from source that really wants to think global warming is happening. Or try this http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/environment/article6991177.ece
gpandersen says:
Ignoring the stupidity of people confusing weather with climate, I have found the ideal answer to these dumb comments: simply point out that the Winter Olympics are currently suffering from severe snow shortages and no-one at Fox seems to be connecting this to global warming…
As I pointed out earlier in this thread, the snow shortage in Vancouver is not severe in the sense that they haven’t had snow. They have had plenty of snow. Whistler is in great shape. The problem is Cypress Mountain, where moguls will be run (and maybe half-pipe but don’t quote me on this). Cypress Mountain is just north of Vancouver and it does get warmer there than Whistler and it does rain there as well. It is not uncommon for the skiing on Cypress Mountain to go to shit in the middle of winter. I can’t believe they put any events there. They must have known the risks.
Vancouver itself does not get much snow during the year. When it does snow, the snow doesn’t stick around. Also when it snows in Vancouver, be very careful driving because you would think that these people lived in Texas and only see snow once in fifty years. They cannot drive in snow.
This has nothing to do with global climate change in particular.
February 10th, 2010 at 11:17 amrandy:
It really doesn’t matter because you are talking about weather.
We do not the the first decade of the 21st century was the warmest since records have been kept surpassing the record set during the previous decade.
What part of that don’t you understand?
February 10th, 2010 at 11:21 amReggie, I don’t consider you or Elbruce as legitimate sources, and I was not responding to your post. I was respoding to the post I had quoted
Excuse me. but I don’t care who you were responding to, this is a public forum and I have a right to dispute your troll droppings.
February 10th, 2010 at 11:34 amNeither El Bruce or I were the sources in the quotes, we referenced facts from the reality based universe. Since you are too lazy or too stupid to read them, go ahead and keep making a fool of yourself and I will keep pointing out your idiocy.
Live ling at 422: It’s an El Nino year – warner and wetter in the Northwest – by up to 7 F warmer in January.
February 10th, 2010 at 11:38 amI can see why you’d think that, Sean, given that you don’t understand the difference between weather and climate. I bet you couldn’t even say how the water cycle works.
Lord, why is it the most ignorant people have the loudest voices and the biggest platforms?
February 10th, 2010 at 11:42 amWhoah, that’s new: there’s someone arguing against him or herself at the tail of this thread. That’s against the law in some states, Alabama I think for one.
February 10th, 2010 at 11:45 amTerrytheTurtle:
Oops, I screwed up formatting the quote at the top of my last comment, that comment was a response to Randy the troll.
I never argue with myself because I always end up losing.
February 10th, 2010 at 11:51 amTerrytheTurtle, brought to you by Exlax says:
Live ling at 422: It’s an El Nino year – warner and wetter in the Northwest – by up to 7 F warmer in January.
Terry, I’m not saying it’s not warmer and wetter. I’m saying the mountain they are using for some events is prone to weather problems. There have been other El Nino years and I’ll bet Cypress Mountain had trouble in those years.
February 10th, 2010 at 11:55 amlivelong – makes sense what you say, I think they screwed up putting those events up there. Not a fan of the Olympics anyway. Makes you wonder who was watching the El Nino cycle when they put out the bid… wonder if they could have guessed.
February 10th, 2010 at 12:00 pmTerry, oddly enough, Calgary had similar problems in 1988. They created a brand new hill for downhill skiing because they thought all the great hills like Lake Louise and Sunshine Village were too far away (1.5 and 2 hours away). The ski hill they made was on the east side of the rockies – most of the snow falls west of the great divide. They barely got the events in and the ski hill is now not in operation. There was also weather problem that year. Leading up to the games, Calgary had 90 days of above normal temperatures. The bobsleigh and luge track was melting.
I’m a sports junky and a big fan of the Olympics.
February 10th, 2010 at 12:38 pmCo2 a pollutant? LOL
February 10th, 2010 at 12:51 pmthose of extremely narrow focus could just as easily sit and stare at an oak tree for 72 hours and exclaim, without a doubt, that the tree is definately not growing or expanding and anyone who says differently is a communist, socialist, gay baby eater!
February 10th, 2010 at 1:06 pmindia telling the ipcc and fellow pseudo-scientists to take a hike and funding it’s own study.
(Citation needed.)
February 10th, 2010 at 1:19 pmdave121212:
Go ahead and laugh, nobody cares what a tea-bagger troll thinks about greenhouse gases.
February 10th, 2010 at 1:21 pmpezmiztix:
1) Do you have any valid science that shows that the earth is not experiencing warming.
Do you have any valid science that shows that total ice mass of the Himalayan glaciers is not significantly decreasing?
If you don’t, go back to troll central and rejoin the circle jerk
February 10th, 2010 at 1:26 pmEffects of global warming on India
India’s global warming fears
February 10th, 2010 at 1:30 pmWhen does carbon dioxide become a pollutant?
peemistake says:
i will enjoy watching the agw fraud unravel.
Don’t hold your breath waiting for that to happen.
February 10th, 2010 at 1:34 pmpeemistake:
You astro-turf talking point has been debunked FIVE TIMES on this thread alone.
Go get some fresh spin from Eric Odom, the stuff you have now is way past it’s best before date.
February 10th, 2010 at 1:47 pmD.C. Snowstorm: How Global Warming Makes Blizzards Worse
February 10th, 2010 at 1:56 pmpezmiztix says:
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knowing the arrogance of obama, he will continue pushing his climate agenda down this country’s throat despite valid claims of fraud and phony science and further exemplifying what the people of this country are beginning to discover that his ideological driven agenda trumps what’s best for this country.
obama and agw share a commonality – phony.
As opposed to Hannity’s arrogant belief that global warming must not be real because it’s snowing outside?
February 10th, 2010 at 2:07 pmIf Hannity is the person you want to emulate, sheesh kid you have more problems than I thought.
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the only think being debunked right now is agw – on every level.
their claims – false
accepted scientific standards and principals – ignored
hockey stick graph – debunked
himalayans – a claim that was even apologized by pachuri (head of ipcc)
agw – leaked emails show manipulation of data analysis to “hide the decline”
us temps have cooled in 5 of last 7 decades.
no decrease in sea ice over the last 30 years (nsc / noaa)
polar bear population largest ever recorded – 300% increase from 60’s
warmest decade in the usa – 1930 (nasa)
us temps in 2009 – 34th coolest in 115 years.
antarctic sea ice – largest ever recorded 2008
and the beautiful net result….. the chicago climate exchange (ccx) has seen co2 drop from 7 dollars a ton to 10 cents. seems to indicate the future of agw
Prove it, PezDispenser..
February 10th, 2010 at 2:10 pmpeemistake says:
Since when is America the whole world?
February 10th, 2010 at 2:22 pmWho do Conservatives think that the IPCC is the only organization that studies AGW and its effects? There is the EGU (European Geosciences Union), the NOAA (National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration), CMOS (Canadian Meteorological and Oceanographic Society), CFCAS (Canadian Foundation for Climate and Atmospheric Sciences), the Royal Meteorological Society, the Network of African Science Academies and NASA (to an extent) to name a few.
February 10th, 2010 at 2:27 pmpeemistake says:
link please?
Arctic sea ice vanishing faster than ‘our most pessimistic models’: researcher
February 10th, 2010 at 2:29 pm
*typo: why do*
February 10th, 2010 at 2:29 pmPismouth demonstrates once again that his infantile stupidity is exceeded only by his viciously willful hpocrisy.
For example, the claim that Mann’s work on the hockey stick has been “debunked” is a bald-faced lie that anyone possessed of nothing more than the abstract possibility of integrity could easily discover on his own for no more effort than merely looking:
http://www.realclimate.org/wiki/index.php?title=The_hockey_stick_is_broken
In addition, his wild-eyed, childishly hysterical accusations about the IPCC are equally pathetic and baseless:
http://www.ucsusa.org/global_warming/science_and_impacts/global_warming_contrarians/attacks-on-the-ipcc.html?utm_source=fb&utm_medium=fb&utm_campaign=fb
Again, it requires no effort to discover these facts and scarcely any intelligence to understand them. Yet Pismouth as absolutely incapable of doing either, much less both.
February 10th, 2010 at 2:30 pmMyth vs. Fact Regarding the “Hockey Stick”
February 10th, 2010 at 2:33 pmI just may buy 500,000 tons and sit on them, thanks for the tip.
February 10th, 2010 at 2:37 pmSeriously, Pismouth, just how stupid are you?
“Indeed, in the U.S. the warmest decade was the 1930s and the warmest year was 1934. Global temperature, in contrast, had passed 1930s values by 1980 and the world has warmed at a remarkable rate over the last 25 years.” (From the report PM cited, my emphasis.)
In addition, the report is now 11 years old, a decade+ that just witnessed the warmest global temps on record.
February 10th, 2010 at 2:37 pmpeemiztix says:
reggie….
No asswipe, I provided a link to an article that quoted a speech by a scientist who led a study done by 300 scientists who spent a year working in the Arctic. The speech was made last week and the study cost the Canadian Government 156 million dollars.
February 10th, 2010 at 2:42 pmYes, do go to the NSIDC website and discover for yourself how the arctic ice continues its unprecedented collapse:
February 10th, 2010 at 2:43 pmhttp://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/2010/010510.html
2009: Second Warmest Year on Record
February 10th, 2010 at 2:46 pmpeemistix says:
That is because hunting of bears was dramatically reduced starting in the 60’s.
WARMER temperatures and earlier melting of sea ice are causing polar bears to go hungry. The number of undernourished bears has tripled in a 20-year period.
February 10th, 2010 at 2:52 pmpezmiztix says:
why are you more comfortable clinging to your misinformed ideologies than educating yourselves?
denying facts to promote myths is not very progressive.
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February 10th, 2010 at 2:52 pmSo what’s the alternative then? God is unprovable or maybe non-existent and the solar theory of global warming has been debunked.
That just pegged the needle on the irony meter.
February 10th, 2010 at 2:54 pmProject much?
You are way out of your league when you go toe to toe with Gary.
Good luck and may dog have mercy on what you call a soul!
February 10th, 2010 at 2:56 pmReggie, sponsored by Brawndo ™ says:
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randy:
It really doesn’t matter because you are talking about weather.
We do not the the first decade of the 21st century was the warmest since records have been kept surpassing the record set during the previous decade.
What part of that don’t you understand?
Assuming the earth has been around a few million years, how do YOU know that the 21st Century being warmest isn’t anything but a natural cycle. How would you explain the ice age and emergence from the ice age without stimulation by evil capitalist. Just like most research, there is no money in it if there is no pending catastrophe to justify their existence.
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lin…
take responsibility for your own ignorance and research yourself. if you wanted to (and i suspect you won’t because that would mean you would have to change the position your blind ideology supports) you can goolge or visit their websites – ccx, noaa, nasa, nsc. type in pachhuri name along with himalayan on google and you’ll find several articles and even an interview regarding the false claims.
you can certainly choose to disparage nasa, the noaa, and the nsc information.
claim everything i said is a lie – then tell me why the ccx price of c02 has went from $7 to 10 cents??? must mean speculation as to the future of carbon trading isn’t worth a dime. why? because the agw ship is sinking. they say, follow the money…. well the money is running away from agw.
Ok fine, I’ll do some research for myself and then I’ll get back to you on that.
February 10th, 2010 at 4:01 pmFrom the EPA:
Recent Climate Change:
Since the Industrial Revolution (around 1750), human activities have substantially added to the amount of heat-trapping greenhouse gases in the atmosphere. The burning of fossil fuels and biomass (living matter such as vegetation) has also resulted in emissions of aerosols that absorb and emit heat, and reflect light.
The addition of greenhouse gases and aerosols has changed the composition of the atmosphere. The changes in the atmosphere have likely influenced temperature, precipitation, storms and sea level (IPCC, 2007). However, these features of the climate also vary naturally, so determining what fraction of climate changes are due to natural variability versus human activities is challenging.
Even the EPA adknowldeges that there is some climate change occuring naturally, dingbat! The thing is, we human are causing it to happen at a much faster rate than it has happened in the past.
February 10th, 2010 at 4:07 pmFrom UNEP ( United Nations Environmental Programme):
The accelerated shrinking of mountain glaciers on every continent, rapid reduction of Arctic sea ice, disintegration of floating ice shelves, and increased melt rates of Earth’s three Ice Sheets –Greenland, West Antarctic, and East Antarctic provide compelling evidence of our changing climate.
There you go, dingbat! Proof that most of the Earth’s ice is melting due to increasing temperatures.
February 10th, 2010 at 4:12 pmPezDispenser,
February 10th, 2010 at 4:21 pmDo you pride yourself on being so incredibly stupid and thick-headed?
also from the UNEP:
So you don’t accuse me of cherry-picking my facts:
Implications of sea-ice loss
The implications of so little multi-year ice in the Arctic are now being investigated.
First-year ice melts more quickly, so larger areas of open water will be exposed to solar radiation earlier in the year, which will increase both sea and atmospheric temperatures. The larger heat transfer from the ocean to the atmosphere—the maritime effect—will help moderate autumn and winter cold temperatures. As ice retreats from shorelines, winds gain a longer fetch over open water, resulting in stronger waves and increased shore erosion.
Satellite measurements of winter multi-year ice cover in the Arctic Ocean between 2004 and 2008, along with the corresponding downward trend in overall winter sea-ice volume, and switch in dominant ice type from multi-year ice to !rst-year ice. Source: Kwok et al. 2009
More serious complications result from the potential release of methane and carbon dioxide that are currently frozen in Arctic soils. The expected rapid soil thaw could also produce a talik—a layer of permanently unfrozen soil sandwiched between the seasonally frozen layer above and the perennially frozen layer below—which in turn creates a more rapid heat build-up in the soil, further accelerating the long-term thaw and release of carbon dioxide (Lawrence et al. 2009, UNEP 2008c, Serreze et al. 2007, Jones et al. 2009, Jones et al. 2008, Mars and Houseknecht 2007).
Understand?
February 10th, 2010 at 4:27 pmPismouth, everyone understands that you wear diapers because you’re too stupid to achieve even elementary (alimentary?) levels of toilet training; unsurprisingly, since the yellow drool is so excessive with you, when there’s no more room for it to come out your rear end, it comes out all of the others.
As anyone coapable of reading at even a third grade level could easily understand by doing nothing more exotic than actually reading — so obviously entirelyt beyond your ability to even imagine — citing a single report on the collapse of arctic sea ice cannot possibly be construed as denying that ice in the antarctic was also under discussion.
At least, not anyone capable of any activity which might, by some reckless stretch of the imagination, ever be construed as at least showing some infinitessimal sign of thought or logic. So of course we understand how it is that you necessasrily cannot understand something that a philodendron could easily grasp.
Also, as anyone possessed of no more integrity than a cockroach could easily figure out for himself, the rebound of polar bear populations was a direct response to changes in human predations. (That last is a fancy word for “hunting” — you know, “shootin’ stuff.”)
Again, this point involves no possible difficulty to either discover or understand, yet you are so pathetically infantile, lazy and just flat-out butt-stupid that even after the fact — the manifestly obvious and irrefutable FACT — has been repeatedly pointed out to you in terms that any “learning disadvantaged” six year old could easily grasp, it continues to just zoom right past whatever the excremental process is that you substitute for cognition.
February 10th, 2010 at 4:47 pm478. pezmiztix says:
Pismouth just presented a comprehensive description of the nearest he ever comes to “method.”
February 10th, 2010 at 4:48 pm476. randy says:
By finding out what the facts are, rather than spending all of our time sitting around in gaping, slack-jawed stupefaction, swallowing wholesale whatever infantle lie is shovelled down our gullet by the paid professional liars at Faux Noise and Whirled Nuts Dully, and swallowing said lies without even a first much less a second thought.
I mean, who do you think you are kidding? It is not as though you have the littlest, little interest in actually learning the facts, because if you did you would long ago have done so. It is not as though the doing so involves any possible difficulty, merely the bare possibility of integrity.
But do, please, prove me wrong; do actually go out and LEARN something. These links are pretty good starting places:
http://www.aip.org/history/climate/index.html
http://www.ipcc.ch/publications_and_data/ar4/wg1/en/ch9.html
February 10th, 2010 at 4:57 pmGary,
February 10th, 2010 at 5:03 pmIs PezDispenser a troll sent here to disrupt an intelligent debate or are they actually interested in debating facts?
487. linzloo08 brought to you by Kaiser Permanente says:
Rhetorical, a bit. But an excuse for me to pontificate:
Reasoned inquiry depends — in decreasing order of abstraction — upon logic, principles, evidence and facts. Ideology tends to reject all of these, and ideology that has turned into Identity must go beyond rejection and necessarily engage in extirpation. Because anything that challenges the (again, necessarily) thoughtless ideology catastrophically undermines the entire basis of the person’s sense of self-identity.
The puling, spineless, gutless wretches that troll here have no interest in discussing ANYTHING, much less honestly engaging logic, principles, evidence or facts at any level. They are here only to confirm their self as their self. Devoid of any shred of genuine personhood, they must go forth as missionaries and martyrs to demonstrate their reality to themselves by the very ruthlessness of their absolute disregard of, and overt contempt for, anything which might even possibly qualify as genuine intellectual honesty.
To anyone possessed of nothing more concrete than the abstract possibility of intellectual integrity it is scarcely imaginable how anyone could ever be so vacuous as to stoop to this sort of behavior. But for the trolls the alternative would actually require that they pass with in some cosmological distance of real self-awareness.
And these pathetic swine will burn the world to cinders before they ever permit such a moment of honesty to occur within their universe.
February 10th, 2010 at 6:08 pmMan Made Global Warming:
February 10th, 2010 at 6:24 pmAll based upon a Ponzi scheme for world order and distribution of money. All the data gathered in this hoax are fudged numbers, biased data of convenient time periods. Regardless of the data, even if the data were true, man made global warming represent only a theory to a few scientist. There is no scientific fact of mand made global warming. No scientific fact that CO2 is a cause or even a pollutant. Again, all theory no facts.
dave121212 basically walks around with a nametag that says, “HI! I’m a Moron! Ask me how!”
But he does rather beautifully demonstrate what I was saying in #488. Does that qualify as irony, or is it just too tediously typical of him and his ilk to rise to even that level?
February 10th, 2010 at 6:38 pmGary has his head up his a$$, take off the blinders Gary. Were at post #491 and not one fact of man made global warming.
February 10th, 2010 at 7:07 pmOnly wishful theories all devised for the cause of money. Follow the trail people.
Only wishful theories all devised for the cause of money.
Oh f(ck! Sounds like you just described organized religion.
February 10th, 2010 at 7:12 pmdave121212 says:
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Gary has his head up his a$$, take off the blinders Gary. Were at post #491 and not one fact of man made global warming.
Only wishful theories all devised for the cause of money. Follow the trail people.
One word: Idiot..
February 10th, 2010 at 7:14 pmdave121212 says:
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Man Made Global Warming:
All based upon a Ponzi scheme for world order and distribution of money. All the data gathered in this hoax are fudged numbers, biased data of convenient time periods. Regardless of the data, even if the data were true, man made global warming represent only a theory to a few scientist. There is no scientific fact of mand made global warming. No scientific fact that CO2 is a cause or even a pollutant. Again, all theory no facts.
There you go with your crazy conspiracy theories.. Did you read any of my posts above. Many legit organizations, such as UNEP, NOAA, and EPA have all documented accelerated global warming.
February 10th, 2010 at 7:18 pm*Swats PezDispenser with a flyswatter*
February 10th, 2010 at 7:20 pmGet away from me, you little pest!
Follow the money trail. linzloo08 provides us with many legit organizations, such as UNEP, NOAA, and EPA all provided with government money.
February 10th, 2010 at 7:28 pmI did notice linzloo08 wrote,”Many legit organizations, such as UNEP, NOAA, and EPA have all documented accelerated global warming”, atleast he didn’t claim man made global warming.
Good job!!!
ave121212 says:
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Follow the money trail. linzloo08 provides us with many legit organizations, such as UNEP, NOAA, and EPA all provided with government money.
I did notice linzloo08 wrote,”Many legit organizations, such as UNEP, NOAA, and EPA have all documented accelerated global warming”, atleast he didn’t claim man made global warming.
Good job!!!
Actually if you read the bottom of what I got from the EPA, it did say that people were accelerating global warming. I see reading comprehension isn’t your strength.
February 10th, 2010 at 7:33 pmAnd yes, the EPA is given governemnt money. For crying out loud, it’s a friggin federal agency!
February 10th, 2010 at 7:35 pmDave, how much do you get paid to be this stupid?
February 10th, 2010 at 7:36 pmgovernemnt=government
February 10th, 2010 at 7:39 pmOops. I seriously need to get my eyes checked.
dave121212 says:
Who are the trail people and why should they be followed?
February 10th, 2010 at 7:47 pmReggie, sponsored by Brawndo ™ says:
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dave121212 says:
Follow the trail people.
Who are the trail people and why should they be followed?
They are his invisible friends tht only he can see.
February 10th, 2010 at 7:50 pm491. dave121212 says:
Is it even possible to imagine what would have to transpire for little davy to be any more willfully stupid or infantile than he already is? I mean to make such a statement as that quoted above in the face of all the facts that have already been linked to above (and which even a slobbering imbecile could easily track to many, many more facts) — it altogether beggars the imagination. My nominally green plastic plants are blushing pink at little davy’s boundlessly infantile moronic nonsense.
Seriously: what degree of contempt could a person possibly heap upon such wildly vicious, willful stupidity as little Davy proudly displays in the above — whether verbal or otherwise — that could even begin to approach the measure of disdain such disgustingly purposeful and childish idiocy genuinely merits?
February 10th, 2010 at 7:58 pmThe Great Global Warming Swindle – Produced by WAGTV
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzSzItt6h-s&feature=related
February 10th, 2010 at 8:00 pm499. linzloo08 brought to you by Kaiser Permanente says:
He’s so stoopid he volunteers to be even stoopider.
(By the bye, little davy has long since sunk past mere “stUpid.”)
February 10th, 2010 at 8:02 pm504. dave121212 says:
Like I said, just flat-out butt-stOOpid: So grotesquely stOOpid, it (calling it a “he” would suggest it was possessed of some shred of human-like intelligence &or integrity) thinks a TV show bought and paid for by paid professional liars somehow qualifies as evidence of anything — other than its own stOOpidity.
February 10th, 2010 at 8:05 pmGary Herstein says:
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504. dave121212 says:
The Great Global Warming Swindle – Produced by WAGTV
Like I said, just flat-out butt-stOOpid: So grotesquely stOOpid, it (calling it a “he” would suggest it was possessed of some shred of human-like intelligence &or integrity) thinks a TV show bought and paid for by paid professional liars somehow qualifies as evidence of anything — other than its own stOOpidity.
Hehe yeah.
February 10th, 2010 at 8:28 pmOnly those whose religion is the environment still believe in AGW. The lying (so-called) scientists who started the idea have been proven to be frauds. They should be put in jail.
Since there is no evidence that man causes global climate change, it is therefore purely a matter of faith.
If it were not a religion, man-made global warming would have been proven empirically with honestly collected data and detailed procedures that were widely peer-reviewed with consistently repeatable results.
I believe that most of the “scientists” knew it was all a fraud but it was their gravy train so they just went along.
Those who still blindly believe, liberal activists and politicians, are delusional, stupid and/or corrupt.
February 10th, 2010 at 10:30 pmIf you looking for a relation to rise and fall of temperatures, you will find better correlation to sun activity then you would with CO2. CO2 has 800 year lag.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VgVDugSuPOo&feature=channel
Again you have no facts to man made global warming or CO2 as a cause. All you have is garbage loony kook theories.
February 11th, 2010 at 12:24 amThe Great Global Warming Swindle has been shown to be a fraud by this greenman video
February 11th, 2010 at 12:25 amReggie,
February 11th, 2010 at 1:12 amWhere are the facts of man made global warming????
I can’t find any facts from NASA, NOAA, NMF,or USGS.
Must be all snake oil.
alfonz says:
Only those whose religion is the environment still believe in AGW.
No, it’s only those whose only faith is science.
Project much?
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dave121212 says:
If you looking for a relation to rise and fall of temperatures, you will find better correlation to sun activity then you would with CO2. CO2 has 800 year lag.
You posted this identical text in another thread. Sun activity does not correlate to global temperatures. CO2 does not have an 800 year lag.
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dave121212 says:
I can’t find any facts from NASA, NOAA, NMF,or USGS.
Well then, please allow me to assist. I have Googles: here are facts from NASA, NOAA, and USGS Which NMF are you talking about?
February 11th, 2010 at 3:24 amOnly those whose religion is the environment still believe in AGW. The lying (so-called) scientists who started the idea have been proven to be frauds. They should be put in jail.
Since there is no evidence that man causes global climate change, it is therefore purely a matter of faith.
No evidence? Just ask the EPA or the people living near the Artic Circle, silly.
If it were not a religion, man-made global warming would have been proven empirically with honestly collected data and detailed procedures that were widely peer-reviewed with consistently repeatable results.
Religion? Are you insane?
I believe that most of the “scientists” knew it was all a fraud but it was their gravy train so they just went along.
Prove it.
Those who still blindly believe, liberal activists and politicians, are delusional, stupid and/or corrupt.
February 11th, 2010 at 8:20 pmAgain, prove it.