Rep. King Justifies Suicide Attack On IRS: Sympathizes With Hatred Of IRS, Hopes For Its Destruction
Rep. King Justifies Suicide Attack On IRS: Sympathizes With Hatred Of IRS, Hopes For Its Destruction
On Thursday, a man flew a plane into a Texas federal building in an apparent domestic terrorist attack. The suicide bomber, identified as Joseph Andrew Stack, was allegedly a right wing extremist who wrote on a website that violence “is the only answer” and expressed anger at the IRS, the federal government, and health care reform. Some on the fringe right have declared Stack a hero.
ThinkProgress caught up with Rep. Steve King (R-IA) at CPAC to talk about the attack in Texas. Asked if the right-wing anti-tax rhetoric might have motivated the attack, King implicitly agreed, noting that he had been a leading opponent of the IRS for some time. He noted that although the attack was “sad,” “by the same token,” it was justified because once the the right succeeds at abolishing the IRS, “it’s going to be a happy day for America.” He sidestepped the question of the legitimacy of the terrorists’ grievances, but sympathized by saying that “I’ve had a sense of ‘why is the IRS in my kitchen.’ Why do they have their thumb in the middle of my back”:
TP: Do you think this attack, this terrorist attack, was motivated at all by a lot of the anti-tax rhetoric that’s popular in America right now?
KING: I think if we’d abolished the IRS back when I first advocated it, he wouldn’t have a target for his airplane. And I’m still for abolishing the IRS, I’ve been for it for thirty years and I’m for a national sales tax. [...] It’s sad the incident in Texas happened, but by the same token, it’s an agency that is unnecessary and when the day comes when that is over and we abolish the IRS, it’s going to be a happy day for America.
TP: So some of his grievances were legitimate?
KING: I don’t know if his grievances were legitimate, I’ve read part of the material. I can tell you I’ve been audited by the IRS and I’ve had the sense of ‘why is the IRS in my kitchen.’ Why do they have their thumb in the middle of my back. … It is intrusive and we can do a better job without them entirely.
Watch it:
Last week, Sen. Scott Brown (R-MA), despite his long history of inflamed rhetoric about terrorism and domestic security, essentially disregarded the attack. As ThinkProgress’ Max Bergmann observed, “It is naive for Brown to think the dangers of right wing terrorism aren’t real. Last year, the Department of Homeland Security released a report warning of the dangers of rising right wing extremism, as was evidenced by the shooting at the Holocaust museum in D.C. and by a Pittsburgh killer who was partially inspired by Glenn Beck.”
Indeed, it’s not only hate radio personalities encouraging violence against the government. Far right members of Congress, like Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-MN), have called for people to get “armed and dangerous” against the administration’s clean energy policies. King’s quasi-embrace of the Texas terrorist’s grievances is similarly dangerous.
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There’s going to be more domestic terrorism from these teabaggers…count on it – they’re violent.
February 22nd, 2010 at 5:32 pm…domestic terrorists.
Plain and simple.
February 22nd, 2010 at 5:33 pmOh…and traitors to the United States.
February 22nd, 2010 at 5:33 pmProof that King is a terrorist sympathizer.
February 22nd, 2010 at 5:35 pmWait a minute. This guy is justfing a terrorist attack? WTF is going on here? First the pilot’s daughter calls him a hero, and now this jack-ass is condoning an attack on a Government Institution? These people are criminally insane.
February 22nd, 2010 at 5:35 pmAnd it wasn’t the pilot of the plane…
February 22nd, 2010 at 5:37 pmTeabaggers = terrorists.
February 22nd, 2010 at 5:37 pms. king…an innocent person died in the terroristic attack..
February 22nd, 2010 at 5:37 pmViolence completes the partial mind.
February 22nd, 2010 at 5:38 pmThe land of the half-wits welcomes you, Mr. King.
Be happy guys, if it’s so bad for the right that they have to stoop so low, we must be doing something right.
February 22nd, 2010 at 5:39 pmIsn’t this illegal? Didn’t he break some law or code here? He is a Congressman for God’s sake! To say anything like this should cost him his job.
February 22nd, 2010 at 5:40 pmI want to know WHY he is supporting a murdering terrorist?
CONTACT him here:
http://steveking.house.gov/index.cfm?FuseAction=ContactUs.ContactForm
Washington D.C.
February 22nd, 2010 at 5:40 pm1131 Longworth Office Building
Washington, DC 20515
Phone: 202.225.4426
Fax: 202.225.3193
Conservatism = Terrorism.
February 22nd, 2010 at 5:44 pmApparently terrorism is fine if one shares the terrorist’s grievance.
February 22nd, 2010 at 5:48 pmThe repugniscum party is not going to even attempt to stop this – not only are teapartiers threatening, but the hate-radio hosts like Beck and Linbaugh, representatives at CPAC, and legitimate members of the party like this jerk are given free rein to say anything without fear of repercussion, neither from the party nor from the law.
They have freedom of speech to incite riots and violence.
But anti-war tee-shirts can get a Democrat arrested.
February 22nd, 2010 at 5:50 pmIt amazes me that this sort of vile comment isn’t automatically a career-ending move for a politician.
February 22nd, 2010 at 5:51 pmYou can always count on Rep. Steve King (Retard-IA) to say something monumentally stupid and on cue , like he’s the (semi) human version of Old Faithful ………….
February 22nd, 2010 at 5:51 pmGranted, Rep. King didn’t say yes or no and could have stopped at “I don’t know”, but he’s leaning in agreement that the IRS is more at fault.
I sympathize for the guy, Mr. Stack took an incorrect approach. Resorting to senseless violence in this day and age won’t solve things.
February 22nd, 2010 at 5:51 pmIsn’t it ironic that Rep. King, who was also audited by the IRS, justifies Stack’s attack on the IRS building but didn’t choose to react violently to his own audit?
Hypocrisy in action, on full display.
February 22nd, 2010 at 5:52 pmDoes king really not understand that without taxes he won’t get paid?
February 22nd, 2010 at 5:52 pmT^he young lady who answered the phone at Repl. King’s office defended his comments, saying he knows the frustration of dealing with the IRS, and he would like to see it go away, and his remarks were taken out of context.
I finished her sentence for her – that’s what they all say – they are taken out of context.
February 22nd, 2010 at 5:53 pmI can’t believe he said this after it was known there was a victim. What about the victims family Rep. King? Do you think they feel it is justified to have a maniac kill a loved one?
February 22nd, 2010 at 5:54 pmI am astonished that Rep. King is willing and prepared to implicitly condone murder if the political cause matches his own views. I would call such an attitude outrageous, but as others have noted, it is very close to criminal. His “by the same token” comments is an insult to the American people, and I’m not even American.
February 22nd, 2010 at 5:56 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
So what’s the big difference that mandates that Hasan be called a terrorist and not Stack? The only reason I can think of is that Hasan is a Muslim and Stack does not seem to be.
February 22nd, 2010 at 5:59 pmWhat’s that legal term again….
something about inciting, or …
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:01 pmaccessory after the fact???
The man who died was a Viet Nam Veteran and worked at the IRS to help people resolve their problems. But he’s not the hero. The terrorist that killed him is. Why? Because the victim is black and the terrorist is white.
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:02 pmRUCerious,
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:02 pmElements of Accessory (legal term) and use in the US.
RUCerious Brought to you by MalWart your source for cheap plastic crap says:
What’s that legal term again….
something about inciting, or …
accessory after the fact???
I believe it’s “providing aid and comfort.” But those apply too.
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:03 pmbiz@27, You got that right. MSM BURIED this story. If it was a Muslim man, MSM would still be reporting it. There is no doubt in my mind. I haven’t heard anything about Joeseph Stack today. His daughter had a brief mention in the MSM because of her unbelievable comment, but they dropped Stack like a stone.
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:03 pmzxbe says:
It amazes me that this sort of vile comment isn’t automatically a career-ending move for a politician.
He hails from Siouxland.
‘Nuff said.
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:04 pmRemember folks, someone crashed a plane into the Whitehouse during President Clinton’s term in office. There will be more right wing terror. We need to call them out now, so they can’t say later “No one could have predicted…”
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:05 pmElements of Accessory (legal term)
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:06 pmAnd I’m still for abolishing the IRS, I’ve been for it for thirty years and I’m for a national sales tax.
He’s for shoveling middle-class tax dollars to the rich. A national sales tax wouldn’t make enough to fund our military.
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:06 pmP.D. says:
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:06 pmbiz@27, You got that right. MSM BURIED this story. If it was a Muslim man, MSM would still be reporting it. There is no doubt in my mind. I haven’t heard anything about Joeseph Stack today. His daughter had a brief mention in the MSM because of her unbelievable comment, but they dropped Stack like a stone.
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And yet the gave more coverage to that Bishop lady even going far enough to use the fact that her brother was on the far left of the political spectrum to slander liberals. Double f***ing standard!
Agree fully that it is insane that a Congress Critter is justifying terrorism !
Once the IRS is abolished life will be better ? So who will collect taxes ? Has the “good” Congressman figured out that he will have to resort to asking for tips to pay his salary ?
Has he figured out that the IRS doesn’t make up the tax code. They just enforce what ***HE*** has enacted ?
And how many roads can you pave on voluntary contributions ?
Admittedly, I don’t like paying taxes. But taxes are what a govt uses to make a better world.
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:07 pmSo what’s the big difference that mandates that Hasan be called a terrorist and not Stack? The only reason I can think of is that Hasan is a Muslim and Stack does not seem to be.
Hasan supposedly connected to larger network with greater intent to do harm than a “lone wolf”.
Wordplay to justify their maniacal bullshit, nothing more.
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:08 pmIsn’t he one of those idiots that goes around painting mustaches on the President’s picture. People actually vote for him…if the Democrats can’t convert this congressman into political roadkill….I question their commitment.
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:08 pmKing should be put in the stocks and stoned …within an inch of his life.
The IRS has certainly become a bloated entity but attacking people who work there isnt a solution. Furthermore the other person killed in this air-rage was a guy that served two tours in Vietnam.
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:08 pmHe may not like the IRS in his kitchen but I don’t like the Republicans in my doctor’s office, but that is changing the subject.
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:09 pmHe, like all Republicans want a national sales tax because it hits everyone at the same rate, it is not progressive (yes, I know it’s a dirty word-like retard) which makes those of us who can afford to pay more do so, or should.
Terrorism is when foreigners use violence to express dissatisfaction over the status quo. Americans are merely exercising Constitutional rights of protest when they use violence to do the same.
Brown guys crash planes into buildings=foreign wars
White guy crashes plane into building= folk hero.
Quite simple actually.
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:10 pmRep. St. Steve of King has just crossed that imaginary line of reason thinking he would have saved lives if only people did what he wanted.
It must be just wonderful being so f-ing oblivious and getting a hefty paycheck and the best health care for it.
Censure this fool now or throw him in the gallows with Bill “Tax Revolt” O’Reilly!
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:11 pmThis congressman is batsh*t crazy. If anyone has ever watched him rant on cSPAN they will know that he is crazy and that says a whole lot about the people in the red state that elected him.
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:13 pmThe democratic majority should move his offices into the IRS building. That way he can see first hand the effects of any future teabagging terrorism. Or should we call it “tearrorism” now?
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:14 pmConservatives are so deranged, that they think of themselves as patriots, not terrorists. I think Obama will have to crack down on domestic terrorists. You know, he must show himself to be tough on domestic terrorism as well as foreign. Tea-baggers, keep talking, keep inciting, and we will have massive job growth in prison construction in the near future.
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:16 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Rep. King and his GOP friends have no problem with the IRS collecting taxes to pay their salaries and Health Care Benfits. But Rep. King does speak for the voters of Iowa who put him in office and that says alot.
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:18 pmThe GOP is the U.S. political arm of Al Qaeda. They seek to justify violent acts in order to serve their political agenda.
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:18 pmbizzarobrain, you’re right, unfortunately that will play into their paranoid delusions and inspire more violence. Just like David Corresh inspired Tim McVie. I’m not saying it’s not necessary, but it will not end well. I only hope that this time, those who are firing up the mob will be held accountable as well.
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:19 pmElBruce, owned and operated by NewsCorp, Inc. says:
RUCerious Brought to you by MalWart your source for cheap plastic crap says:
What’s that legal term again….
something about inciting, or …
accessory after the fact???
I believe it’s “providing aid and comfort.” But those apply too.
The Tea Klux Klan calls crashing planes into buildings a exaggerated form or protest, when they do it. No matter if their inspiration comes the History Channel or Fox News, they can’t tell the difference between fiction or reality. Just as long as they get to spray the quote of “The Tree of Liberty must be….” in an attempt to prove they are well read.
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:19 pmAs mentioned previously by cd it is tax money that pay for this @sshat’s salary AND socialist healthcare. I thought that Congresscritters took some kind of oath to defend Our Constitution and protect Our Nation’s laws. As a Congressman you would think that somewhere along the way he would have heard that taxation is LEGAL. Then again these same @ssholes have aided in trying to justify the murder of abortion doctors with full knowlege of the legality of abortion as well. I guess what I’m saying is that I fully agree with the sentiment that the Republican Party is willing to support, foment and apologize for domestic terrorism…as long as it’s THEIR base doing the terrorin’! Abetted by a resounding silence from our “librul media”, despite the Bush Administration’s report from Homeland Security on the threat posed to our Nation from those on the far right. The report was dead-on, recent history has sadly proven the case…yet what do we hear from the right side of the aisle and our esteamed media? The right cheer the baggorists on and the MSM trip over themselves to stick a microphone in front of tards like Rep. King.
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:23 pmBob, Johnsonville, the best brat, wurst says:
bizzarobrain, you’re right, unfortunately that will play into their paranoid delusions and inspire more violence. Just like David Corresh inspired Tim McVie. I’m not saying it’s not necessary, but it will not end well. I only hope that this time, those who are firing up the mob will be held accountable as well.
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I think you’re right…this may happen again before it gets recognition in the MSM.
To be fair, not all conservatives are wack jobs, some are just confused or afraid but we should treat the dangerous ones like we would dangerous people on the left or foreign terrorists.
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:28 pmiberalSlayer says:
The guy who attacked the IRS building was not a tea party activist.
No, he was just a right wing nutjob who committed an act of terrorism. He just as easily could have been carrying a semiautomatic rifle around any democratic townhall meeting this past summer….
He was just a mentally off-kilter guy who went over the edge.
Aren’t you all? If you doubt it, take a look at all the Ben Franklin impersonators at your meetings…
Most of us hate the IRS, they are an out-of-control, abusive arm of the the incompetent federal government. Adults realize that things like roads and the military cost money. Quit being such a selfish crybaby and pay up loser.
You can “understand” how someone went off the deep end and did something like this without condoning it.
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:28 pmActually no, I don’t “understand” how someone with a 3000 dollar tax bill can burn down a 300,000 dollar house and fly his own plane into a building, killing himself and an innocent man. If you “understand” that, you are a sick person.
But keep on with your lies and propaganda, moonbats.
You not liking facts or having the manhood to own your problems does not make something a lie or propoganda. trig.
And Faux News is the media arm of the GOP.
The Saudi connection makes so much sense now.
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:29 pmThe republicans and al-Qaeda are exactly alike.
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:30 pmLarry Mondello says:
Joe Stack was welcomed into heaven by Washington and Coolidge.
He’s currently writhing on Satan’s grill, plumping nicely, like a Johnsonville Brat! When you die, you’ll wind up as a side of baked beans, if your breath is any indication…
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:31 pmKayInMaine says:
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:33 pmThe republicans and al-Qaeda are exactly alike.
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Yup. The jihadists and the right-wingers are like the pigs and the humans at the end of Orwell’s Animal Farm. It’s getting damn near impossible to tell them apart.
bizzarobrain says:
To be fair, not all conservatives are wack jobs, some are just confused or afraid but we should treat the dangerous ones like we would dangerous people on the left or foreign terrorists.
True, but law enforcement should still be profiling them, if they have nothing to hide then they won’t mind, it’s for the good of the country after all. Unless of course they want to admit they’re just being racist when they say the same thing about people from the middle east…
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:34 pmThe real hero in all of this is Vernon Hunter who, after serving 2 terms in Vietnam years ago, was viciously attacked and killed on American soil by Joe Stack after Stack smashed his airplane into the building Vernon was working in (you know, working and paying taxes like the rest of us!).
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:34 pmLarry Mondello says:
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Joe Stack was welcomed into heaven by Washington and Coolidge.
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:26 pm
Martha Washington , perhaps ……..And if Coolidge is in heaven (if it even exists) , it sure wasn’t because of his stellar job as president ; typically , like almost all Republicans , he sucked ass ……..
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:36 pmLarry Mondello says:
Joe Stack was welcomed into heaven by Washington and Coolidge.
Timothy McVeigh and Jerry Falwell are getting Joe used to the warmth of the Christian global warming aka Hell. People like Glenn Beck can expect to vacation here permanently when they cut their own tether.
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:36 pmKayInMaine says:
The republicans and al-Qaeda are exactly alike.
“Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we.”
GWB
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:37 pmtheir thumb in the middle of my back.
jeesh… if nothing else, would they please just
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:38 pmget the metaphors straight!
Bingo!!!!!
Here’s what a right wing troll said to me on my blog the other day: “By the way, Kay, how does it feel knowing you’ll die in a country where conservatives are again running the show?”
The right wing fringe of America are demons. The End.
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:38 pmBob, Johnsonville, the best brat, wurst says:
bizzarobrain says:
To be fair, not all conservatives are wack jobs, some are just confused or afraid but we should treat the dangerous ones like we would dangerous people on the left or foreign terrorists.
True, but law enforcement should still be profiling them, if they have nothing to hide then they won’t mind, it’s for the good of the country after all. Unless of course they want to admit they’re just being racist when they say the same thing about people from the middle east…
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Good point. I can’t say I would want to profile anyone…I realize that would be the easy thing to do, however we would be acting just like them and be giving into our fears. Rational thought and fear never fit.
Maybe we need to work on making the media more rational because the current sense of panic has been because of right-wing fear-mongering that has become a key part of Republican political strategy.
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:39 pmREMINDER: According to the right wing fringe, Joe Stack is not a terrorist because he has white skin. He’s a freedom fighter! Spit.
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:41 pmLots of rightie, wingnut, teabagging nutjobs are going to one-up Joseph Stack now. Just wait for it. Now that they know that they have the (perceived) approval of the likes of Rep. Steve King, my guess is that it won’t be long before another witless zombie, super right wing automaton will try his or her hand at martyrdom.
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:41 pmGeorge Carlin to Larry King: “This country is done.”
America has gone absolutely Stark raving mad. When the daughter of this TERRORIST calls her father a hero (HERO!) from her home in Norway, of all places, where the healthcare system is similar in some ways to that of France, and calls the death of IRS worker Vernon Hunter “inappropriate,” I have to scream. Inappropriate? How about MURDER? Her father is a criminal and a terrorist, but the fact that he was Caucasian and hated the IRS earns him a pass in the GOP playbook. It’s OK to fly planes into buildings if you’re a Republican. Anyone else, and you’re a terrorist. I feel for the family of victim Vernon Hunter, who served two tours of duty in Vietnam, which I imagine Stark got out of somehow. So sad he had to die at the hands of this madman.
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:41 pmThe lovely little interview Stack’s daughter gave this morning was all the proof I needed to know that ole Joey talked politics with his family for years. His daughter is brainwashed and would have applauded daddy if daddy had killed thousands of babies in a daycare to make his point!
Joe Stack is a domestic terrorist. Too bad he’s dead, because I would have liked to have spit in his face!
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:42 pmIs Steve King sort of harboring terrorists here? What do we do with people who harbor terrorists again?
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:44 pmI love the IRS, I actually enjoy filing my 1040ES so I can enjoy myself 4 times a year.
Someone likes licking his own butt.
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:46 pmI bet Rep. King knows how to find al-Qaeda’s website!
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:46 pmFuzzyGOPBallsLicker™ A Solid F- says:
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February 22nd, 2010 at 6:44 pm
Your mom helping you figure out your paper route income doesn’t qualify as an “accountant” , jackass ……
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:46 pmKayInMaine says:
bizarrobrain (Sponsored by Tysons chicken in a tube!) says:
KayInMaine says:
The republicans and al-Qaeda are exactly alike.
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Yup. The jihadists and the right-wingers are like the pigs and the humans at the end of Orwell’s Animal Farm. It’s getting damn near impossible to tell them apart.
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:33 pm
Bingo!!!!!
Here’s what a right wing troll said to me on my blog the other day: “By the way, Kay, how does it feel knowing you’ll die in a country where conservatives are again running the show?”
The right wing fringe of America are demons. The End.
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Some of them are absolutely pathetic. It’s people like them that will eventually drive this country to the ground. I’d love to see the tea-baggers on a street corner in South Central Los Angeles shouting their mouths off, I’d give them thirty seconds before they are either stomped on or shot at. Sometimes you wish the end of the world would come just that little bit quicker so you don’t have to breathe the same air as these wastes of semen.
Sigh. Remember: “Be optimistic…all the people you hate are eventually going to die.” Sigh.
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:47 pmRepugs just don’t want to pay for anything, they want everyone else to pay. Repugs and trolls, leave the country!
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:47 pmFuzzy, if you file ES and do it 4 times a year you are the only person who does. The folks at the IRS probably laugh at you. Like we do.
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:48 pmyeaaah… about the daughter, thinks her terrorist dad is a hero…
she lives where, in what very “socialist” european country?
i heard her interview on abc this morning… she actually said that she gets more services for her tax dollars there…
wonder what terrorist sympathizer king thinks about that factoid…
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:49 pmFuzzydildo is having a bad day getting pummeled on TP
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:50 pmKayInMaine, Vernon Hunter is a black man so of course his death is of little concern to the whitewing media.
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:50 pmIf you scanned all terrorists i bet you’d find the same brain patterns regardless of their specific “cause of the day”, or ethnicity. It does not make it any more right when a Retardican does it!
I know that the Republican doesn’t practice or respect political correctness, so they won’t mind if i call them Retardicans.
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:51 pmFuzzyGOPBallsLicker™ A Solid F- says:
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Ape-Man says:
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Is Steve King sort of harboring terrorists here? What do we do with people who harbor terrorists again?
Well, if you’re Barrack Hussein Obama, you send drone missiles into their civilian populations.
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:49 pm
And if you’re Chimpy McFlightsuit or one of his moronic apologist tools like the shithead above , you illegally and stupidly invade and occupy a sovereign nation that doesn’t have any of them living with 100 miles of their country ………
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:52 pmOh, sure. THAT stupid rhetoric will solve the problem of more than 50% of the budget going to military spending.
Furthermore, King Klown, California sales tax hoovers around 10% plus California Income Taxes and Federal (IRS) taxes.
Also a VAT (national sales tax, in King Klown lingo) can be and usually is increased to make up for decreases in income or excess expending, without much intervention of the citizenry. Oh, did I mention California already?
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:55 pmBreaking… Scott Brown (R-MA) will break from GOP to support jobs bill. LOL! So trolls, how do you like the ‘Tea-Bag’ Candidate now?
February 22nd, 2010 at 6:57 pmExactly Shayne at #84. Of course, the right wingers are all over the fact that the Boston Herald claimed in one sentence that Amy Bishop, who gunned down her colleagues at the U. of Alabama, was an “extreme leftist who was obsessed with President Obama”. The “funniest” part? The white supremacist stormfront.org posted the pictures of the 3 people Bishop killed and guess what? They’re dark skinned! So, stormfront.org loves Amy Bishop. *sigh*
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:02 pmKing–this man flew a plane into a building full of innocent people. This guy is a murderer, plain and simple. A domestic terrorist too. MY GOD. Words fail me on how evil this man and his cult is. KING-YOUR CULT HAS DRIVEN THE DEVIL INTO MY COUNTRY. A COUNTRY FULL OF INNOCENT PEOPLE.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:02 pmLarry Mondello says:
Coolidge
WTF? You might as well wax poetic about Polk or something.
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Fuzzy Slippers™ A Solid B+ says:
Even the audits are fun, sometimes they are right and sometimes my accountant was right.
I got a letter from the IRS one time saying they had audited me. While a cold shiver ran down my spine, it went on to explain that I had overpaid and they’d enclosed a check for the difference. Just a little anecdote there, not trying to make a point or anything.
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Fuzzy Slippers™ A Solid B+ says:
Well, if you’re Barrack Hussein Obama, you send drone missiles into their civilian populations.
Civilian death toll down in Afghanistan
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pezmiztix says:
why does this guy think the plane crash is an example of right wing terrorism?
I notice you make it sound like an accident. “The plane crash” indeed.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:03 pmif that statement wasn’t giving aid and comfort to terrorists, i don’t know what is? what will it take to perp walk one of these cancervaturds ginning up the hatred? another 9-11?
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the plane did crash, did it not?
just wondering why this guy thinks it was an act of right wing extremism?
i haven’t read anything about it being a right wing extremist attack – of course, except in here.
Nobody in their right mind flies an airplane into a building with people inside and kills someone.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:10 pmAnyone, including King, who can’t [won't] see what our country is currently facing with domestic terrorism is either blind or a fool. The primary reason domestic terrorism has occurred is because these folks think it’s simply UNAMERICAN to have a Black president, [they have NO RESPECT for him and the more they contemplate it, the more anger and violence they harbor], and because of this, we should realize those chickens are coming home to roost! and we don’t know who will be caught in the cross-hairs.
All the while, with dumb-asses like King, [including most all the repugnicans esp. Faux Noise], they continue to ‘incite’ people who are on the edge and what we have left is a country dominated by anarchy, ’shootin it up’ so they can ‘have their country back’ [whatever that means]! No one ‘likes’ to pay taxes, but if we want the police, fire, teachers, and other social services, someone has to pay for them – with taxes. Yet they feel entitled but would prefer to die than pay their fair share. King talks about a sales tax which means the poor and middle-class must pay the same rate as the rich – that’s NOT going to work, so they better get used to the IRS. BTW I’d rather pay a little more and know it was going to universal health care, than to have none!
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:10 pmhhhmmmmmmm, nitwittix
what other group of terrorists hates the government in general and the IRS in particular?
that’s right….teabagging filth.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:10 pmKING: It’s sad the incident in Texas happened, but…
No need to read anything after the “but.” King doesn’t think it’s sad at all. I suits his purposes.
I’m sure that’s a great comfort to the families of Stack’s victims.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:11 pmEven the reporters were shocked when the investigator said it was a ‘Criminal Act’ and not an act of ‘Domestic Terrorism’. If it were an person of the Middle East it WOULD have been labeled a Terrorist attack, and all of us here know it.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:11 pmYes, what on earth could this event have to do with conservatives? Other than the fact that all hysterical anti-tax rhetoric and all anti IRS hate emanates from right-wing blow holes, they’ve got nothing to do with it.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:12 pmAnd just think, King would have been screaming “Bloody Murder” if one of us “liberals” had pulled a stunt like this when Bush was in charge..Anyone wanna revive the part of the Bush doctrine that got you in trouble for wearing a critical t-shirt or carrying a sign that was critical of the President?
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:12 pmWas King a supporter of the war on terror? Just wondering.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:12 pmthe plane did crash, did it not?
Sort of like the planes that crashed into the WTC. No biggie.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:13 pmHow about that? pez describes the 9/11 attacks as “a couple of plane crashes”.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:13 pmBy embracing Stack as a hero who attacked the IRS, the rightwing now owns him and his deeds.
They are welcome to him. Personally, I don’t care what Stack’s political leanings are. He’s an extremist murderer who committed an act of domestic terror.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:14 pmI think we have enough information to categorize this incident as a case of domestic right wing terrorism. This is what Rep King is saying, he is in effect taking, no claiming, responsibility for the attack. This is no different from when Al Qaida claims responsibility for an attack. King has claimed responsiblity for the attack by the radical right.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:14 pmDammit, Hooda! I owe you a coke.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:14 pmAnd to think King would have been screaming bloody murder if it had been a “brown person” who did it!!
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:16 pmAnd we should respond just as quietly as we did to that other plane crash. After all, planes crash all the time. It doesn’t matter that the pilots deliberately caused said crashes for political purposes. No biggie.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:17 pmAccording to pez, I guess we will be invading Texas soon.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:18 pmpezmiztix says:
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so he’s a right wing extremist???
what then do you make of his mentioning of GM bailouts?
or his comments about taxation with representation?
or his anti-capitalism rant?
or his hatred of bush?
or his communist creed usage?
does this mean he was a progressive since he shared the same views as progressives? of course not, so why do you say he’s a right wing?
Right now the only people who seem to be having a problem with the IRS would be the teabaggers. Does that answer your question, PezDispenser?
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:18 pmKing and Bachmann are the “king” and “queen” of the teabagger ball. Bachmann has got nothing on this loon.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:20 pmpezmiztix says:
i haven’t read anything about it being a right wing extremist attack – of course, except in here.
That’s probably because you can’t read.
In any case:
1. He did it as a political act, per his own note. That makes it terrorism.
2. He hates the IRS (right wing trope)
3. On the other hand, he also hates corporate welfare (left wing trope)
But it’s not really about what he thought, it’s about which people are going to agree with what he said and did, if anybody. That is to say, it’s not whether he joined your side, but whether your side is going to join him. So far, it sounds like y’all are going there.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:20 pmSorry, pez, I mispoke. By your logic and that of your hero we should invade Alabama. He attacked Texas.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:21 pmpezmiztix says:
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enough info to declare it a case of ‘right wing extremism’?
really, that’s a bit of a stretch.
The only thing that’s a stretch for you is to understand all the information..
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:21 pmpezmiztix says:
does this mean he was a progressive since he shared the same views as progressives? of course not, so why do you say he’s a right wing?
Since you have no social skills, no one knows who you’re talking to. But I’ll take a swing at it.
It doesn’t matter what his politics were, he flew an airplane into a building killing and wounding people.
The rightwing lunatics have embraced his actions, so he now belongs to you.
Do you understand?
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:22 pmThey should round up the leaders of this right wing domestic terrorist movement and send them down to Gitmo. Isn’t that what the radical right expects? Isn’t that what they think Obama will do because they think he is a Nazi/socialist/Communist/facist? Should they be heading for the hills, living off the land? Why are they still here?
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:22 pmWhy would a progressive attack the IRS? Most progressives and liberals have never had issues with taxes. His political affiliation may not have caused him to attack the building but the only people cheering for him are those on the right.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:22 pmso, nitwittix,
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:23 pmhypothetically, if someone charshed a plane into mooonie central wiping out the CPUNK convention that would be a-ok under your logic because no one like cancervatards?
I can’t remember, pez… were you one of the trolls here who insisted that Amy Bishop was a “liberal extremist” terrorist?
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:23 pm110 peeswhilesits
Uh, that sounds pretty much like the sht flinging Baboon Beck.
The Baboon took a monumental dump on Mc5th choice, who basically promised to be the Chimperor Bush’s third term.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:23 pmTERRORIST SYMPATHIZER!
Gotta love that GOP hypocrisy, better than fine wine.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:23 pm“I have sent a check in the amount of five dollars to help erect a memorial statue of Joe Stack in Washington D.C”
cheapskate. for that amount, your “monument” will be crafted out of dogshit and nitwitpix the sculptor.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:24 pmI find it difficult to believe that someone in Iowa has not started a recall petition on King.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:24 pmpoliticscorner says:
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King and Bachmann are the “king” and “queen” of the teabagger ball. Bachmann has got nothing on this loon.
But, but you forgot Glen Bleech and Flush Rumpballs!!
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:24 pmI know, I know Bleech can be the court jester..And Rumpballs can be..oh, I don’t know.
I was just observing your tendency to minimize a premediatated attack using an aircraft as a missile by describing it as a “plane crash”.
Does your characterization of the Joe Stack attack not describe just as well the 9/11 attacks, except for the number of planes?
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:26 pmCan we go ahead and invade Iowa now, pleeeease?
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:26 pmbenji85 says:
TERRORIST SYMPATHIZER!
Gotta love that GOP hypocrisy, better than fine wine.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:27 pm–
Or a dark German ale. :D
mmm… beer….
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:27 pmLarry Mondello says:
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I have sent a check in the amount of five dollars to help erect a memorial statue of Joe Stack in Washington D.C. It is our hope that it can be built near the Iwo Jima Memorial of the U.S. flag being raised on Mount Suribachi. Semper Fi Joe.
And those poor veterans would be spinning in their graves if they knew what crap was going to be put next to their solemn memorial..
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:28 pmI’m having a hard time with this. Crazy Arabs took airplanes and deliberately crashed them into a building and it is an act of terrorism.
Crazy American takes an airplane and crashes it into a building and it isn’t an act of terrorism.
Its only terrifying if a brown person decides to crash an airplane?
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:28 pmso, nitwitpix@130,
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:28 pmyou admit it was an act of terrorism. it is logical given that statement rep. king is guilty of giving aid and comfort to terrorists. when should he be called upon to step out and read his miranda rights? or would you prefer military tribunal?
I would like to speculate if Joseph Andrew Stack was in the hole with the IRS. Stacks flew his “plane” into an IRS office.
This guy was not in the average income league if he had access to a plane. This entire episode stinks of money.
Stacks was no hero but a bastard who had so little concern for his fellow man that the possibility of destroying life was secondary to his financial crisis.
Some hero but very befitting the right wing to have a hero as such! A selfish self absorbed narcissist. How the right wing seems to attract this kind of animal? It appears they have the following of a cult.
The Republicans deserve their following and I am proud to be on the opposite side of the political divide.
My heart felt sympathies to the family of the IRS agent who was killed, this is the real tragedy.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:28 pmRalph, we really have to quit meeting like this.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:29 pmGee,who does Stack remind me of? Hmmm, let’s see…I don’t know…could it be…Timothy McVeigh?? Yes, indeed; another domestic terrorist. And King is a terrorist sympathizer.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:29 pmHoodathunk(sponsored by Take Back Our Blog, Inc.)) says:
I’m having a hard time with this. Crazy Arabs took airplanes and deliberately crashed them into a building and it is an act of terrorism.
Crazy American takes an airplane and crashes it into a building and it isn’t an act of terrorism.
Its only terrifying if a brown person decides to crash an airplane?
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I’ve been wondering that for years. We seem to completely ignore domestic terrorism unless they are of a different culture or skin color…i.e. not white or christian. It’s a major double standard.
Terrorists/extremists of all kinds should be imprisoned.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:30 pmAnd to think that those veterans died so people like Stack could practice their rights to be totally stupid, not to mention cowardly..It’s like he’s spitting on their graves or something.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:31 pmralph the wonder llama, official spokesllama for the Llama Milk Council® says:
bizarrobrain (Sponsored by Tysons chicken in a tube!) says:
benji85 says:
TERRORIST SYMPATHIZER!
Gotta love that GOP hypocrisy, better than fine wine.
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Or a dark German ale. :D
mmm… beer….
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:31 pm–
Haha. *toast*
*waving to Dumbo the Elephant Pez Dispenser*
Ummm, pez? You do realize that there were many REPUBLICANS WHO FELT ALL OF THE ABOVE AND VOTED FOR OBAMA, BECAUSE OBAMA WASN’T BUSH OR A REPUBLICAN….
Hell, listen to Glenn Beck rant against the republicans on a daily basis! Seriously, get your head out of your arse please ’cause you’re embarrassing yourself! Here’s what he said at CPAC on Saturday:
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:32 pm‘Hello, my name is the Republican Party, and I’ve got a problem. I’m addicted to spending and big government…I’m addicted to spending and I just don’t want to spend today.’
Or if your a wingnut, like FuzzyBrain,
you cheer when an innocent nation gets invaded and this is what you get:
http://www.iraqbodycount.org/
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:33 pmWho wants to bet for this year’s Thanksgiving King will have Samantha Bell (Stack’s daughter) over as a dinner guest?
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:33 pmYou’re correct., I should have said your willingness to characterize a premeditated attack on a public building using an airplane as a missile as a simple “plane crash”.
I made the connection between the two acts (Austin and 9/11), since one fits your description as well as the other.
Better?
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:34 pmBah hahahahaha! Off topic:
Orly Taitz’ lawyer misspells President Obama’s name in their latest lame-o charge against him:
http://www.scribd.com/doc/27277636/Immediate-Release-February-22-2010
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:35 pm…I see pizzabrain is still here…
Don’t forget, Vote Down, Report and Ignore.
And the reason I’m here…off topic,
Dick Cheney Hospitalized
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:35 pmhttp://www.thepoliticalcarnival.net/2010/02/former-us-vp-dick-cheney-hospitalized.html
Why do you want him to be a left winger?
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:35 pmKing should be removed from office for this and other remarks, as should Bachmann.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:36 pmnitwitpix seems to ignore the glaringly obvious.
dude flew his plane into the IRS building.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:36 pmBecause right-wing extremists are flocking to his banner. See King, Steve.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:36 pm“Dick Cheney Hospitalized”
so?
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:37 pmpezmiztix says:
i never said it wasn’t an act of domestic terrorism.
however, to link it to right wing extremism is a bit dishonest and a stretch at that.
Right wing extremism is linking itself to him. Geddit?
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Wiz says:
This is what Rep King is saying, he is in effect taking, no claiming, responsibility for the attack. This is no different from when Al Qaida claims responsibility for an attack. King has claimed responsiblity for the attack by the radical right.
Exactly this. Thank you.
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bizarrobrain (Sponsored by Tysons chicken in a tube!) says:
I’ve been wondering that for years. We seem to completely ignore domestic terrorism unless they are of a different culture or skin color…i.e. not white or christian. It’s a major double standard.
Wingnuts are even more afraid of brown people than they are of actual death. It doesn’t make any sense, but that’s the only explanation. They’re freaking terrified of anybody who’s different than them, regardless of any actual level of risk or threat.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:37 pmso why, i ask, then are you so sure he with a right wing extremist?
I never called him that. I inferred he was a terrorist. And I will state flat out that he was. He used violence (the exact same kind as the nasty Arab terrorists) to attack an entity he felt was evil and destructive. I could care less if he was right, left or moth wing. He was a terrorist murderer.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:38 pmKayInMaine says:
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Who wants to bet for this year’s Thanksgiving King will have Samantha Bell (Stack’s daughter) over as a dinner guest?
Ooh sounds like a “National Lampoon”-style Thanksgiving!
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:38 pmAll it needs to be complete is a senile old lady who mixes up the blessing with the Pledge of Allegiance..
Will they cook the turkey for too long like in “Natl Lampoon’s Xmas Vaca.?”
When is someone going to look into the soulless empty eyes of these blobs of toxic amoeba and tell them to their ugly faces that they are totally full of crap, dangerous and unAmerican to boot. A grateful nation will applaud. Someone, PLEASE, do it. I would myself, if I could penetrate the miasma of sulfur that protects these putrid excuses of “leader”.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:39 pmLarry Mondello says:
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Joe had courage. Militia courage.
And you have a brain. A pea brain…
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:40 pmIntersting that our pez dispenser asserts that the manifesto “makes no mention of anything other than sounding like a man who is at the end of his rope” yet in the next sentence describes things other than “a man who is at the end of his rope”. Only thing is, pez only notes those things that can be loosely characterized as “left-wing” ideals (if you hold a cartoon vision of the left, as pez apparently does).
No mention of his hatred for the IRS which, as many have observed, is a teabagger’s mantra, nor for the government in general, which is a libertarian’s mating call, and would firmly establish the author as a right-winger, has pez been able to make out those particular passages.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:40 pmLarry Mondello says:
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Scott Brown: Traitor.
Only if you are a teabagger.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:41 pmLarry Mondello says:
“Joe had courage.”
Oh c’mon , suicide is the greatest example of cowardice there is.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:41 pmIt’s sad the incident in Texas happened, but by the same token, it’s an agency that is unnecessary and when the day comes when that is over and we abolish the IRS, it’s going to be a happy day for America.
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There are only two possible ways to explain these comments from King:
1) He was using some sort of extremely powerful recreational intoxicants that day
AND/OR
2) He’s flat-out insane.
Aside from the fact that King is condoning politically-motivated violence (AKA terrorism), how in the name of all that’s sacred does King think that the federal government could have a prayer of supporting defense spending — never mind anything else — without the IRS? According to the Tax Policy Center, individual income taxes and payroll taxes currently account for eighty percent of federal revenues — and the individual income tax has been the largest single source of federal revenue since 1950. I know that many Republicans claim (emphasis intended!) to be in favor of smaller government and can only conclude that King would probably be in favor of eliminating most social programs as well as the IRS since the federal budget deficit would inevitably take a quantum leap if they were continued (since federal revenues would almost certainly shrink significantly). However, even though it’s quite true that nobody likes paying taxes, they are to some extent a necessary evil for the benefit of society at large. If the IRS were eliminated completely, it seems very likely that this country would also see the complete elimination of the middle class — and that’s probably one of the best case scenarios! Without safety nets such as unemployment or food stamps, it would be extremely easy for job loss to send a middle-class family spiraling into poverty or possibly even homelessness.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:42 pmnitwitpix and larry mondello
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:43 pmyou both owe janet napoletano an apology. she was right. now man up and say you’re sorry.
“it’s a sad day for this country when the parties are arguing whose ideology is more responsible for an act.”
that rich, shitstain. coming from an ideology which trotted out bill ayers.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:43 pmHey Larry, can you show us your courage by flying your airplane into the ground? Thanks pal! We look forward to watching your spectacularnous!
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:43 pmand anyone who does not understand that what happened in Austin was a terrorist act that involved killing US citizens and tries to portray it as anything else is a deluded piece of bagger crap who should be deported to Somalia.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:44 pmIf the IRS were eliminated completely, it seems very likely that this country would also see the complete elimination of the middle class — and that’s probably one of the best case scenarios! Without safety nets such as unemployment or food stamps, it would be extremely easy for job loss to send a middle-class family spiraling into poverty or possibly even homelessness.
And this was one of Paul’s saner ideas..No wonder he lost the 2008 Presidential Primary!
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:45 pmpezmiztix says:
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owe janet an apology?
okay, i’ll get right on that letter.
And don’t forget to make it legible, okay?
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:45 pm“Dick Cheney Hospitalized”
Looks like the “demon rum” might have finally gotten the best of the old boy. Anyone see his CPAC speech? He was totally sloshed. I hope this will be his last hospitalization. The world will be a better place without him. Now that the walls are closing in on him and a war crimes charge is imminent, I think he’s pulling a “Ken Lay”.
Anyone know where the family intends to plant his carcass? I want to be first in line to p!ss on his grave.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:45 pmAs well as gramatically correct!
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:45 pmLarry Mondello says:@161
Scott Brown: Opportunist.
Fixed
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:46 pmpezmiztix says:
“unfortunately, it looks like it’s going to take something awful to happen to reignite the individuals in this country.”
You really are an ignorant phuck.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:47 pmAll we have any more is individuals thinking me, me, me.
What’s innit for me.
nitwitpix,
i thought you skidmarks prided yourself on “personal responsibility”. now you clown don’t want to calim resposibility for ginning up hatred of the governement resulting in an act of terrorism?
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:47 pmDick Cheney Hospitalized”
the old turd has a government run health care plan. i’m sure he won’t be denied care…
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:48 pmbizarrobrain (Sponsored by Tysons chicken in a tube!) says:
I’ve been wondering that for years. We seem to completely ignore domestic terrorism unless they are of a different culture or skin color…i.e. not white or christian. It’s a major double standard.
Wingnuts are even more afraid of brown people than they are of actual death. It doesn’t make any sense, but that’s the only explanation. They’re freaking terrified of anybody who’s different than them, regardless of any actual level of risk or threat.
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Actually from an observers POV it makes quite a lot of sense, like you said: they’re just scared shit-less of anything the steps away from what is “normal.” Even worse is when these “Real Christians” have to shit on other cultures. I mean…theirs is better, right? God said so, so it must obviously be true.
Ow, it hurts to even type that crap.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:48 pmHoodathunk(sponsored by Take Back Our Blog, Inc.)) says:
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and anyone who does not understand that what happened in Austin was a terrorist act that involved killing US citizens and tries to portray it as anything else is a deluded piece of bagger crap who should be deported to Somalia.
Forget Somalia! These wastes of space need to be sent to Gitmo and waterboarded!
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:48 pmTom says:
“Dick Cheney Hospitalized”
Anyone know where the family intends to plant his carcass? I want to be first in line to p!ss on his grave.
Ok you got shotgun for urine. I want shotgun for a steaming corn and brat turd that I can pick up and smear into the name on his gravestone…
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:48 pmHere’s another pez dispenser I’d like to kick across the room…
http://politicalhumor.about.com/library/graphics/bush_lies_pez.jpg
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:48 pm169 peeswhilesits
Now you are starting to sound like the sht flinging Baboon Beck.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:49 pm177 tom says:
I want to be first in line to p!ss on his grave.
…I’ll race you.
Anyone else? Hands?
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:50 pmConservatives are some sick demented bastards.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:50 pmPezDispenser
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:50 pmWhat point are you trying to make?
All I’m getting from you is you saying “Look at me, I’m a moron!”…
KING-Jesus hung around with tax collectors all the time, and even ate with them, and was roundly condemned and threatened by the GOP of Jesus’ day–the Pharisees. Jesus would say you and your party sound very familiar. He also said to watch out for those who would say they are of Him, but warned that they are not. Jesus also said to see what kind of fruit someone bears–King, you are rotten fruit. Sorry about the religion, but the GOP have appropriated Jesus as the de facto head of their cult, AND I, OBJECT. I am not perfect, but I am angry.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:51 pmSoapBox says:
177 tom says:
I want to be first in line to p!ss on his grave.
…I’ll race you.
Anyone else? Hands?
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:51 pm–
Hold on.
*Chugs two liter of Mountain Dew*
Ready! :)
Well, you were willing to describe the attack as a simple “plane crash”, were you not?
Willingness.
In fact, you repeated it when challenged.
Not willingness?
No incorrect assumption. Actually a perfectly justifiable one, given the text of your comments.
You described what was clearly an attack using an airplane as a weapon to affect political change as a “plane crash”. When challenged, you made it clear that you stood by that description.
I simply took your description and applied it to another attack of similar design and intent. There is nothing obvious in your use of the term “plane crash” to disqualify it from the application I employed. In order to object, one would have to compare the two attacks in terms of degree rather than kind, and since you made no mention of the severity of the attack (wisely, too I might add) there was no reason for me to presume that severity (or lack of it) was the motivation for your rather prosaic description of a simple “plane crash”.
I hope this clears up our little misunderstanding..
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:52 pmpezmiztix says:
it’s a sad day for this country when the parties are arguing whose ideology is more responsible for an act. in political arenas, the individual has truly lost it’s identity.
unfortunately, it looks like it’s going to take something awful to happen to reignite the individuals in this country.
something awful did happen trigdispenser, 911? And what did you people do? You started a an necessary war in iraq ignored the people who attacked us in Afghanistan, gave away the treasury to your crony buddies, wiped your ass with the constitution, and questioned the patriotism of anyone who spoke up. I hope the next wingnut crashes a plane into your home.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:52 pmpezmiztix says:
What do you make of Rep. King’s comments, pez?
I’ve listened to them and it sounds to me like he’s dismissing the attack on a Federal Building.
Disgusting, yes?
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:52 pmI wonder what the right wing fringe will resort to next? Huh. I wonder. Who wants to bet Dick Cheney will call Fort Detrick from his hospital bed to demand anthrax be sent out again to liberals?
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:53 pmCan we please just send King’s sorry butt to Gitmo or any of our secret prisons in Eastern Europe? I really wanna waterboard him now, cause it looks effin awesome!
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:53 pmGood thing you won’t be because your spelling is atrocious! I can see Janet now saying to her secretary, “Are you sure this letter didn’t come from Track Palin?”.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:55 pmWell, pez, if you attribute any and all disagreements between us to intellectual dishonesty on my part, then I’m afraid I have to call you out for intellectual cowardice.
I may be taking liberties with the use of “intellectual” but I’m just following your lead, so that maybe you’ll get the point.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:55 pmpezmiztix says:
“it’s an act of domestic terrorism.
period. end of story.”
imagine that, you skidmarks weren’t so flippant when it was a muslim man at ft hood.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:55 pmpezmiztix says:
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it’s an act of domestic terrorism.
period. end of story.
Finally, we’re getting somewhere..
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:56 pmpezmiztix says:
Thoughts on Rep. King’s comments, pez?
I think they’re disgusting, you?
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:57 pmAnd wasn’t Rimballs the one who said that waterboarding was just like a “fraternity hazing thing”? Hmm maybe he should get sent away and waterboarded just to prove it.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:57 pmEXCLUSIVE: Stack’s Daughter Retracts ‘Hero’ Statement ABC News
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ha! cat’s outta THAT bag, chicky.
all 3,426 news articles »
i did see a picture, CSMonitor i think, of the wreckage…
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:57 pmlooks to me like he hit the retaining wall – not through the windows
as i’d thought… … commendable…?
i could be mistaken…
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Semper Fi? Are you under the impression that Stack was a vet?
Vernon Hunt, the man he killed was a vet; Stack was not. Or do you believe Stack was a hero deserving of a monument?
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I do have to agree with the posters who objected to characterizing Stack as right-wing – or left-wing, for that matter. I personally couldn’t determine a specific political leaning from what he wrote.
That doesn’t mean I give Rep. King a pass on his idiotic remarks.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:58 pm“you guys are a hateful, albeit delusional, bunch”
project much, tard?
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:58 pmpezmiztix says:
it’s an act of domestic terrorism.
period. end of story.
The next time Obama has a town hall that brings all the crazies out, some goon will try to fly a remote controlled flyer into the building as a joke. It’ll be hilarious to Fox News.
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:59 pmWow. And here I thought you were interested in a meaningful dialogue.
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… Dog, I knew I wouldn’t be able to keep a straight face!
February 22nd, 2010 at 7:59 pmIf Jesus landed in a red aircraft in Texas with the words “I Luv Republicans!” written on the side of it, the republicans would kill Jesus because of his skin color and the way he looked. See?
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:00 pmpezmiztix,
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:00 pmDid I condemn or attack you on this thread? No. I practically agreed with you @121.
Stack was probably a Libertarian.
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:00 pmmy only hope is the department of homeland security is keeping a close eye on these teabagging terrorist filth, putting them on no-fly lists, tapping their phone lines, monitoring their behavior. there’s no knowing when and where another one of their sleeper cells will pop up.
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:02 pmSpeaking of Rumpballs,
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:02 pmAnyone know how he spun this attack on his radio show? Did he try to portray Stack as an American “Patriot”..
207 peeswhilesits
DEFINITE Baboon Beck material.
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:02 pmpezmiztix says:
you guys are a hateful, albeit delusional, bunch.
Glenn Beck’s chalk board has all of us beat before we even take off our pajamas. “A Ugly Mind” is what Glenn should call his next entry into cinema.
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:02 pmGlenn Beck’s chalk board has all of us beat before we even take off our pajamas. “A Ugly Mind” is what Glenn should call his next entry into cinema.
And it’s gonna be a blockbuster like his previous movie, right?
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:03 pmI’m with pezmiztix. I was going to ask if anyone has actually taken the time to read the Stack letter. I find it hard to believe right-wingers would be so eager to call him a hero representing their cause if they knew he denounced capitalism and seemingly embraced communism at the end of his letter:
That doesn’t sound like a right-wing diatribe to me. I wish people would actually take the time to research things and not take the word of “pundits” and talking/ditto heads as gospel. But sadly, that is our reality now. Everything that is said by the likes of Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin, Bill O’Reilly, etc. is Gospel. It is the truth – regardless of how untrue it all is.
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:03 pm“he denounced capitalism and seemingly embraced communism at the end of his letter:”
the guy rattled on about the evil government and the IRS for seven pages, flew his private owned cessna into an irs building, he quotes one line from the communist manifesto and viola…instant commie.
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:04 pmpezmiztix says:
“good luck, and if not enjoy eternal ignorance.”
Are you really departing this time, or is this just another feint?
Are you trying to make me feel bad?
A couple of weeks or so ago you expressed how you hated coming here to post, and that you were leaving soon.
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:04 pmI think underneath all of your nonsense you are a narcissistic
asshat who craves attention, and has never learned how to attain it in a positive form.
That doesn’t sound like a right-wing diatribe to me. I wish people would actually take the time to research things and not take the word of “pundits” and talking/ditto heads as gospel. But sadly, that is our reality now. Everything that is said by the likes of Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin, Bill O’Reilly, etc. is Gospel. It is the truth – regardless of how untrue it all is.
Nope it’s not gospel..Especially anything coming out of palin’s mouth besides food particles.
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:05 pmThe Communist Creed? Are you out of your effin mind?
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:08 pmWhat commie would take their private plane and fly it into a government building? What are we, the Soviet Union or something?
If he was a diehard Communist, he wouldn’t have owned a private airplane. Communists don’t believe in private property, dingbat!
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:10 pmI’d like to share with you a ‘letter to the editor’ published today in the NY Daily News, from someone called Chris Prato:
Can you imagine if someone had suggested crashing a plane into the Pentagon in the run-up to the invasion of Iraq? Would they have even published such a letter?
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:10 pmzianger says:
I’m with pezmiztix. I was going to ask if anyone has actually taken the time to read the Stack letter. I find it hard to believe right-wingers would be so eager to call him a hero representing their cause if they knew he denounced capitalism and seemingly embraced communism at the end of his letter:
“The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.”
“The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed.”
That doesn’t sound like a right-wing diatribe to me. I wish people would actually take the time to research things and not take the word of “pundits” and talking/ditto heads as gospel. But sadly, that is our reality now. Everything that is said by the likes of Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, Sarah Palin, Bill O’Reilly, etc. is Gospel. It is the truth – regardless of how untrue it all is.
People who are against the IRS and form anti-tax groups are historically GOP or libertarian in-nature. Some even branch into fringe militia elements and go outside of society because they think society does not listen to them anymore.
How much more do you need this explained to you that the lone wolf mentality that acts against the government is not a left-wing thing in practicality? This isn’t environmental terrorism, which is historically left-wing.
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:11 pmmary lacewing says:
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I’d like to share with you a ‘letter to the editor’ published today in the NY Daily News, from someone called Chris Prato:
Your headline labeled Joseph Stack, the man who crashed his plane into the IRS building, as a “maniac”. He is no crazier than American revolutionaries like Patrick Henry and Thomas Paine, for whom violence was sometimes necessary in confronting tyranny. Stack is a hero.
Can you imagine if someone had suggested crashing a plane into the Pentagon in the run-up to the invasion of Iraq? Would they have even published such a letter?
Yeah, Bush would’ve probably had the Secret Service go over to the letter writer’s house just to pay them a visit and then maybe arrest them later…
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:12 pmLimbaugh: Joe Stack “sounds just like any liberal Democrat,” writings “almost word for word” like Obama, Pelosi, Reid
http://mediamatters.org/search/index?qstring=Stack&x=13&y=10
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:15 pmThe new Mother Jones this month on the traitors in the military joining the “Oath Keepers.” These people need to have their guns taken away and thrown out of the military
Unfortunately, I see us having another Oklahoma City in our future, these people hate America and let’s call a racist a racist, it comes down to a black man in the Oval Office.
http://motherjones.com/politics/2010/03/oath-keepers
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:15 pmthis just in..
Cheney hospitalized with chest pains..
you know.. the guy has had 4 heart attacks – when he goes.. I hope the progressive sites try to contain themselves.. try. I know I won’t shed a tear..he’s a fanatical war criminal mastermind of the last administrations destruction of the nation and the constitution itself.. but none the less – please folks.. if he bites it – try to be remotely respectful.. or we just end up being like the ones we argue against..
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:17 pmas time goes on, you’ll see the folly in your opinions and just how sad they really were. i wonder if you’re arrogance will allow you to change your opinion staring in the face of logic and reason.
good luck, and if not enjoy eternal ignorance.
I would actually be inclined to agree with pez-head’s comment above . . . if he were directing it toward the minority party in Congress these days.
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:17 pmThey’re condoning violence now. Against their own government.
KING: I think if we’d abolished the IRS back when I first advocated it, he wouldn’t have a target for his airplane. And I’m still for abolishing the IRS, I’ve been for it for thirty years and I’m for a national sales tax.
What would prevent these people from then just turning their anger towards the “National Sales Tax Department”?
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:18 pmpezmiztix says:
it’s a sad day for this country when the parties are arguing whose ideology is more responsible for an act.
Indeed. Less than five minutes after it happened, wingnut trolls were already calling the dude a commie or something.
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Larry Mondello says:
Scott Brown: Traitor.
Already? Wow, that was quick.
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:19 pmmary lacewing says:
I’d like to share with you a ‘letter to the editor’ published today in the NY Daily News, from someone called Chris Prato:
Your headline labeled Joseph Stack, the man who crashed his plane into the IRS building, as a “maniac”. He is no crazier than American revolutionaries like Patrick Henry and Thomas Paine, for whom violence was sometimes necessary in confronting tyranny. Stack is a hero.
Can you imagine if someone had suggested crashing a plane into the Pentagon in the run-up to the invasion of Iraq? Would they have even published such a letter?
These are the people who think fascism is a left-wing creation. These people are ignorant of historical facts and connect the dots via loud opinions and not classrooms or real, factual studies. These are the people who would welcome a totalitarian government if it would keep them safe from all those scary peoples and things, if one more thing went boom.
These are the same patriots who tyrants covet with bits of string and the promise that they’ll give them their own land for their servitude…soon.
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:19 pmblue state bob says:
“The new Mother Jones this month on the traitors in the military joining the “Oath Keepers.””
Thanks for this info and the link.
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:23 pmI was wondering about an encounter, this sheds some light.
Larry mondello says (way up above)
I have sent a check in the amount of five dollars to help erect a memorial statue of Joe Stack in Washington D.C
Now that’s the most asinine thing I’ve read yet… build a memorial in D.C. to the guy that flies his plane into a government agency.. lol…
Your brains simply don’t function — but I’m sure whoever you sent the five bucks.. is five bucks richer.
Conservatism = Terrorism
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:25 pmGlenn Beck’s chalkboard got a standing ovation on Saturday night. LOL I’m not joking! It did.
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:26 pmpezmiztix says:
you guys are a hateful, albeit delusional, bunch.
as time goes on, you’ll see the folly in your opinions and just how sad they really were. i wonder if you’re (sic) arrogance will allow you to change your opinion staring in the face of logic and reason.
Logic and reason? The troll doesn’t even know the definition of those words. And the troll doesn’t have a grasp on hateful, since it flows through his veins — the troll “normal.”
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:29 pmFirst: To some extent I can see the frustration of taxes, but the Bush tax cuts remain and deductions are often abused. The problem is stagnant wages, rising health insurance (let alone care), rising housing prices, and there was significant inflation over the last 10 years. But the only balanced budgets were under dreaded 1990s tax levels, so it’s scary we feel the pain AND pass the bill on, massive cuts would have to be made just to break even.
Tax preparers, unless they’re involved regularly, prepare a snapshot of the year, not an audit (no time). The IRS and states don’t really have time to hassle people or collect taxes that aren’t owed, there are enough cases of ignorance, evasion, and greed that they’re spotted fairly easily.
King of the American Taliban.
It figures he would rail against government, with Interstate 29 and 80 as the main lifelines through western Iowa. Not funded by Iowa income tax, I’ll tell you that. And why would he want the Eisenhower system anyway, no IRS, decimated federal military, just tribes and warlords funded by personal funds.
At best he wants northern Mexico near Juarez, at worst Somalia or his beloved Tora Bora.
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:30 pmLarry mondello says:
I have sent a check in the amount of five dollars to help erect a memorial statue of Joe Stack in Washington D.C
You should send it to me. Seeing as how there’s no group currently accepting donations for such a project, I’ll volunteer to take care of that for ya.
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:33 pmIf you’re an American who flies a plane into a government building, you’re a cult hero and maybe a patriot of some sort in certain, hateful circles of white America.
If one is Arab, an American citizen of Middle Eastern ancestry and just tries to board an airplane, they have to have all kinds of indignities and searches because they could/possibly blow up the plane.
Great country we live in. I can’t see any reason why anyone, anywhere else might hate us!
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:35 pmFrom the Libertarian Party’s platform:
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:35 pm
zianger @ 222,
I get the feeling a tragic comedy is unfolding with Mr. Stacks and it may just flush out some true colors. For the progressives Stacks is the boggy man, proof the right has gone too far with their rhetoric; which they have, but this instance is no example of that (with what we know so far). The conservatives want Stacks as a poster boy for their violent cause against the government (as Mr. King was justifying). So far Stacks doesn’t appear to be the “rightwing warrior” crusading against the government.
I get the feeling we have a poor demented bloke at wits end and his irrational action sparked this entire exchange. I am finding it interesting the things being flushed out of the woodwork.
An irrational act by a desperate man I can buy; an act of terrorism by radical right winger I’m not too sure.
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:38 pmBluestocking says: If the IRS were eliminated completely, it seems very likely that this country would also see the complete elimination of the middle class — and that’s probably one of the best case scenarios! Without safety nets such as unemployment or food stamps, it would be extremely easy for job loss to send a middle-class family spiraling into poverty or possibly even homelessness.
And this was one of Paul’s saner ideas..No wonder he lost the 2008 Presidential Primary! — Linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back!!
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And yet Paul (unexpectedly) came out on top in the recent CPAC straw poll. Interesting, isn’t it?
I gather that only about 20% of CPAC attendees answered the straw poll, so it’s possible that this was not a completely random sample…but it makes me wonder if Paul might not have the potential to be a dark horse in 2012. I don’t think he has enough support to win, but this poll plus what we saw in 2008 suggests that he nonetheless has a loyal following — and given how disenchanted many Americans are becoming with both Democrats and Republicans, it strikes me that he could potentially rattle a few cages if he ran as an Independent.
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:38 pmElBruce, owned and operated by NewsCorp, Inc. says:
Larry mondello says:
I have sent a check in the amount of five dollars to help erect a memorial statue of Joe Stack in Washington D.C
You should send it to me. Seeing as how there’s no group currently accepting donations for such a project, I’ll volunteer to take care of that for ya.
We take that $5, buy a cheap Ken doll and set it on fire. A fitting memorial to someone who is now, hopefully burning in Hell.
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:39 pmWe support the passage of a “Balanced Budget Amendment” to the U.S. Constitution, provided that the budget is balanced exclusively by cutting expenditures, and not by raising taxes..
No wonder they keep losing elections..That’s not a winning strategy!
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:41 pmAnd as some have said, it’s directly up to Congress how much the IRS auditors are “in the kitchen” as The tax code is their own creation, and they fund the IRS.
Plus I’m sure you all heard about all the tax evaders with overseas accounts and income who came forward in the past year, so there’s obfuscation, scheming, etc. and it’s hard to say the big bad IRS is blocking out the sun. But King is probably friends with them or just approves breaking the law.
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:42 pmJust ask Ron Paul!!
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:43 pmKayInMaine says:
Mr. Sonia Herecomestheangst says:
pezmiztix says:
you guys are a hateful, albeit delusional, bunch.
Glenn Beck’s chalk board has all of us beat before we even take off our pajamas. “A Ugly Mind” is what Glenn should call his next entry into cinema.
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:02 pm
Glenn Beck’s chalkboard got a standing ovation on Saturday night. LOL I’m not joking! It did.
That is not surprising. CPAC must have the most schizos gathered at one time outside of a major UFO convention. Plus given all the raging hormones in the audience, the chalk board probably did the nasty with Michele Bachmann.
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:45 pmIt bears repeating:
@12, SoapBox says:
Anyone who feels strongly enough to write here, should also write there.
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:46 pmThat is not surprising. CPAC must have the most schizos gathered at one time outside of a major UFO convention. Plus given all the raging hormones in the audience, the chalk board probably did the nasty with Michele Bachmann.
Thanks for putting that gross picture in my head!!
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:46 pmI think I’m gonna go bleach my eyebals now…
Bluestocking says:
Without any safety nets, the country would devolve into chaos. The crime rate would soar as people would be forced to do things just to eat and have shelter. Ron Paul is an idealist who has not thought out the practical effects of what he proposes. He refuses to see any downside to what he proposes.
Paul thinks that the free market will take care of all the problems. He is totally wrong. We had an unregulated market prior to the 1920’s. It brought a lot problems such as monopolies, child labor, swindling on the stock market, etc. Again, this is just merely Paul’s idealist side which refuses to acknowledge past history and the obvious practical effects.
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:47 pmTo be clear, I’ve never heard of pezmiztix before and I’m new here. I like to think of myself as a progressive with an open mind. I’m not trolling for anything or anybody. I wrote the post because I could honestly identify with a lot of what Joe Stack said. I don’t give a rat’s ass WHAT his ideology is. I’m tired of corporations writing legislation that we have to live by. I’m sick that the Supreme Court has basically just ruled that corporations can give unlimited amounts of money to campaigns. I’m tired of paying more taxes – dollar for dollar – that the guys (and women) at the top of my company who own $54 million yachts. I’m tired of taking pay cuts (5% last year) while top execs take huge bonuses. I’m tired of supporting the corruption and greed on Wall Street. I’m tired of having to pay more and more for my health care and getting less and less coverage. I’m tired of calling my congressional representatives in hopes of getting them to act on things and getting no results (although, in all fairness to two of my reps Tom Udall and Martin Heinrich, they have been MUCH more responsive than Bingaman is or Heather Wilson EVER was – for obvious reasons). I’m also incredibly frustrated and tired of all the drivel that perpetuates virtually everywhere! Has anyone ever heard of the tactic called divide and conquer? HELLO! Having both sides at each others throats all the time is EXACTLY what “they” (e.g. OBSTRUCTIONISTS, AKA CPACers, AKA RIGHT-WINGERS) are after! This is what they want! Dick Cheney and Karl Rove have even said so! I’m just terrified that they’ll get what they want.
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:48 pmOh, and to be equally clear – I think what Joe Stack did in response to his depression and anger was horrible!
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:50 pmlinzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:
That is not surprising. CPAC must have the most schizos gathered at one time outside of a major UFO convention. Plus given all the raging hormones in the audience, the chalk board probably did the nasty with Michele Bachmann.
Thanks for putting that gross picture in my head!!
I think I’m gonna go bleach my eyebals now…
Careful. I thought Glenn Beck did that with his whole body. Or he is Bisquick’s best customer.
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:50 pmAs far as the right wing is concerned, Scott Brown has gone from hero to zero in record time. Sweet.
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:50 pmpags2 says:
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Bluestocking says:
Without any safety nets, the country would devolve into chaos. The crime rate would soar as people would be forced to do things just to eat and have shelter. Ron Paul is an idealist who has not thought out the practical effects of what he proposes. He refuses to see any downside to what he proposes.
Paul thinks that the free market will take care of all the problems. He is totally wrong. We had an unregulated market prior to the 1920’s. It brought a lot problems such as monopolies, child labor, swindling on the stock market, etc. Again, this is just merely Paul’s idealist side which refuses to acknowledge past history and the obvious practical effects.
And he’s passed it along to his minions, oops, i mean Pauliacs and teabaggers!!
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:52 pmBluestocking @ 168,
I have the feeling “Good Republican Governance” dictates going out into the world and begging other countries to pay our way. Cut taxes and borrow from the world is their principled approach. It seems simple, if you want a country worth living in you have to pay for it. If you are an American and you are successful you should feel obligate to return to the country part of your success. I believe this philosophy was ingrained in many of our early money makers but conveniently forgotten by the present generation.
What ever happened to the national pride in pay as you go and paying taxes was a patriotic act?
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:53 pmMr. Sonia Herecomestheangst says:
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linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:
That is not surprising. CPAC must have the most schizos gathered at one time outside of a major UFO convention. Plus given all the raging hormones in the audience, the chalk board probably did the nasty with Michele Bachmann.
Thanks for putting that gross picture in my head!!
I think I’m gonna go bleach my eyebals now…
Careful. I thought Glenn Beck did that with his whole body. Or he is Bisquick’s best customer.
Noooo I love Bisquick!
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:53 pmAnd I would call him the Pillsbury Doughboy, but Pillsbury is yummy, unlike Bleech!
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:54 pmWiz says:
As far as the right wing is concerned, Scott Brown has gone from hero to zero in record time. Sweet.
It is hard to do a Mitt Romney that quick, but he is in the right area.
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:55 pmMr. Sonia Herecomestheangst says:
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Wiz says:
As far as the right wing is concerned, Scott Brown has gone from hero to zero in record time. Sweet.
It is hard to do a Mitt Romney that quick, but he is in the right area.
Mitt who? Hehe lol.
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:55 pmWhat ever happened to the national pride in pay as you go and paying taxes was a patriotic act?
It died along with “compassionate conservatism”.
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:56 pmWho is Trigg’s real mommie?
Who is Trigg’s real daddie?
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:56 pmlinzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:
And I would call him the Pillsbury Doughboy, but Pillsbury is yummy, unlike Bleech!
So how about Powder? It’s not product specific.
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:57 pmMr. Sonia Herecomestheangst says:
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linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:
And I would call him the Pillsbury Doughboy, but Pillsbury is yummy, unlike Bleech!
So how about Powder? It’s not product specific.
Ok, sounds good to me.
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:58 pmAnd yet Paul (unexpectedly) came out on top in the recent CPAC straw poll. Interesting, isn’t it?
I gather that only about 20% of CPAC attendees answered the straw poll, so it’s possible that this was not a completely random sample…but it makes me wonder if Paul might not have the potential to be a dark horse in 2012. I don’t think he has enough support to win, but this poll plus what we saw in 2008 suggests that he nonetheless has a loyal following — and given how disenchanted many Americans are becoming with both Democrats and Republicans, it strikes me that he could potentially rattle a few cages if he ran as an Independent.
Pauliacs and teabagger’s aren’t exactly known for their intellectual prowress, silly!..Just look at PezDispenser.
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:58 pmAnd enforcement is to have voluntary compliance, not mandatory compliance. Speed limits aren’t perfect but abolishing them all would be scary and dangerous. Big rigs would break 100, 120…
February 22nd, 2010 at 8:59 pmlinzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:
Mr. Sonia Herecomestheangst says:
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Wiz says:
As far as the right wing is concerned, Scott Brown has gone from hero to zero in record time. Sweet.
It is hard to do a Mitt Romney that quick, but he is in the right area.
Mitt who? Hehe lol.
If you can find Mitt, Michelle Malkin and Ann Coulter are hiding in his shadow. Or so they say.
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:00 pmIt is hard to do a Mitt Romney that quick, but he is in the right area.
Mitt who? Hehe lol.
If you can find Mitt, Michelle Malkin and Ann Coulter are hiding in his shadow. Or so they say.
Yay, groupies!!!
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:01 pmzianger @ 256,
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:03 pmI couldn’t agree with you more. Hopefully this will be the theme of this years election “the voter is sick and tired!”.
linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:
Mr. Sonia Herecomestheangst says:
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linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:
And I would call him the Pillsbury Doughboy, but Pillsbury is yummy, unlike Bleech!
So how about Powder? It’s not product specific.
Ok, sounds good to me.
I was expecting cartwheels or something. I was afraid my comments were going to make your kitchen a neocon spookfest. LOL
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:03 pmIs he a rock star or a politician? Dude, he sounds reaaaally popular with the ladies!
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:03 pmMr. Sonia Herecomestheangst says:
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linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:
Mr. Sonia Herecomestheangst says:
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linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:
And I would call him the Pillsbury Doughboy, but Pillsbury is yummy, unlike Bleech!
So how about Powder? It’s not product specific.
Ok, sounds good to me.
I was expecting cartwheels or something. I was afraid my comments were going to make your kitchen a neocon spookfest. LOL
As long as it involves trashing Beck, I’m all for it!
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:05 pmlinzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:
It is hard to do a Mitt Romney that quick, but he is in the right area.
Mitt who? Hehe lol.
If you can find Mitt, Michelle Malkin and Ann Coulter are hiding in his shadow. Or so they say.
Yay, groupies!!!
I’d say one short of a witches coven, but that’s Mitt’s problem. He chose to guzzle oil and coal.
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:05 pmlinzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:
As long as it involves trashing Beck, I’m all for it!
His mouth helps us thrash himself, so he is the gift that keeps on giving.
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:07 pmIf Joe Stack had used his plane and house for the less fortunate, he would have a tax deduction.
Instead he crashed it into a building rented with tax dollars, federal investigators will have to scope out his friends and family, emergency services were needed, etc. besides the horrible human impact.
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:09 pmHis mouth helps us thrash himself, so he is the gift that keeps on giving.
Just like Palin…I’m suprised she can fit food in her mouth, what with all the times that she’s put her foot in it. All that stretching can’t be good for her jaw.
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:10 pmOr opens her mouth..
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:12 pmAlthough, snakes can stretch and unhinhge their jaw..Methinks Palin unhinges more than her jaw when she speaks.
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:12 pmShe and Bachmann are both experts on putting their feet in their mouths. And how to make insanse sounds come out of it…
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:16 pmGlenn Beck’s chalkboard getting a standing ovation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nz2u-xC1FMM&feature=player_embedded
(starts @ 3:42)
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:17 pmKayInMaine says:
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Glenn Beck’s chalkboard getting a standing ovation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nz2u-xC1FMM&feature=player_embedded
(starts @ 3:42)
And Beck got booed, right?
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:21 pm/snark…
They were drooling over him or maybe it was the valium that Rush was handing out like candy..
It’s hard to tell sometimes…
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:22 pmhumbug72 says:
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Limbaugh: Joe Stack “sounds just like any liberal Democrat,” writings “almost word for word” like Obama, Pelosi, Reid
http://mediamatters.org/search/index?qstring=Stack&x=13&y=10
*face palm* ok Limpballs has officially hit a new low…
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:25 pmCan we please please please waterboard him!!!
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:26 pm“We oppose any legal requirements forcing employers to serve as tax collectors.” — KayInMaine
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I realize that you yourself probably don’t believe this but are bringing it up to point out the flaws contained within the Libertarian argument. As I pointed out in an earlier post, one of the problems with this is the fact that the combination of payroll taxes plus individual income taxes currently make up eighty percent of federal revenues — and without programs such as those which help maintain our infrastructure and the safety of the food supply, it’s quite possible that the country would fall into chaos within a few short years (as Pags2 has already mentioned). Americans as a rule appear to have a surprisingly high level of difficulty coping with ambiguity, uncertainty, and nonconformity despite all our supposed love of independence and freedom of choice — and in a Libertarian world, ambiguity and nonconformity would probably be the order of the day.
Actually, I agree in theory with the Jeffersonian ideal that the best government is the one which governs least because the people govern themselves. Unfortunately, as one of my very favorite quotations states, “there is no difference in theory between theory and practice — but in practice, there is.” When you’re talking about human beings, practice hardly ever delivers what theory promises because the vast majority of people regardless of ethical and/or political persuasion choose not to govern themselves. Anyone who doesn’t believe me should take a class in social psychology sometimes as I myself did many years ago as part of my college degree — it will open your eyes, and not in a comforting way.
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:27 pmBluestocking, I posted that part of the Libertarian Party’s platform to show that Joe Stack could very well be a libertarian. That’s all. :-)
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:28 pmIs there really any difference between Libertarians and Conservatives or are they the same thing, just with different names?
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:30 pmSorry, it’s just that their platforms sound awfully similar.
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:34 pmAnyone else agree?
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:35 pm.
Rep. Steve King (R-IA) sympathises with a domestic terrorist!
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February 22nd, 2010 at 9:35 pmGovernment agencies are… agencies, they act as agents. The IRS collects, and for better or worse it’s gone, off to somewhere else. Federal employees are paid by the finance center.
Spending is the main issue, from the good (Pell grants), the bad (KBR contracts), and the ugly (interest payments on the debt).
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:39 pmYeah, I wish they would devote less money to defense and more to social programs here at home. Oh well, they won’t do that if warhawks are in charge!
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:42 pmAnd dude, those Pell Grants are awesome!! Even though I didn’t apply for one last year, because my family made too much ( the cutoff is $50,000 per year; at least it was last year)..I’m waiting to see of there are any grants that I might qualify for to help pay for school ( 2nd year of community college)..
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:45 pmI just hate those stupid FAFSA forms!!
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:46 pmBluestocking says:
Actually, I agree in theory with the Jeffersonian ideal that the best government is the one which governs least because the people govern themselves.
That sentiment by the drafters of the Constitution was directed at matters that are contained in the Bill of Rights. One of the reasons why the Constitution was drafted was because the confederation failed because the federal government had almost no powers to regulate. Republicans extrapolate the Jeffersonian ideal to economic matters and that is not what Jefferson and drafters intended. They wanted a federal government with strong limited powers with the emphasis on those freedoms of the individual. The federal government cannot be hamstrung by literal or strict interpretations of the Constitution with respect to powers delegated by the Constitution to the federal government. For over 200 years the feds and states have done the 10th Amendment dance without any major hiccups like today. In fact, the feds and states were at odds over states rights, to wit, the right to secede. The supremacy of federal law was never a major bone of contention.
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:49 pmShhsh, don’t tell the seccessionistas that!
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:54 pmWhy can’t they just leave the U.S. already and be done with it so we don’t have to continue to listen to their ranting and raving..
February 22nd, 2010 at 9:57 pmlinzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:
Is there really any difference between Libertarians and Conservatives or are they the same thing, just with different names?
Libertarians break with conservatives in that they would be against criminalizing abortion, marijuana, prostitution, etc. and also support less military along with everything else. Conservatives are only libertarian when it comes to helping people – they’re pro-dictatorship on everything else.
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:07 pmlinzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back @ 292,
In Somalia, there are those that ride bicycles and there are those that ride motorcycles.
There is really no big difference between Republicans, Libertarians or Teabaggers.
I would give the Libertarians the edge on sanity and articulation, but not much.
( I give Fred the credit for the Somalia reference from the other night.)
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:08 pmElBruce, owned and operated by NewsCorp, Inc. says:
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linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:
Is there really any difference between Libertarians and Conservatives or are they the same thing, just with different names?
Libertarians break with conservatives in that they would be against criminalizing abortion, marijuana, prostitution, etc. and also support less military along with everything else. Conservatives are only libertarian when it comes to helping people – they’re pro-dictatorship on everything else.
Thanks for clearing that up for me..Dude, they all pretty much start to sound the same after a while…
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:20 pmAre they also opposed to internationalism? I could’ve sworn Paul tried to push a bill through that would’ve withdrawn the U.S. from the United Nations.
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:23 pmLet’s try a simple equation.
terrorist sympathizers=terrorists
teabaggers=terrorist sympathizers
So?
teabaggers=terrorists
I have many problems with domestic spying but, if the federal government is spying on anyone, I sincerely hope that they are spying on avowed teabaggers/terrorists. Judging by the recent rise in overtly violent and revolutionary rhetoric, the entire community at FreeRepublic and similar sites should be placed on a watch list just as a start.
Aside from that, please join me in writing your Representatives, or other Representatives if your District is being misrepresented by the likes of King and Bachmann (InsaneR-Mn.), demanding the censure of those who advocate violent uprisings against the lawful government of our country.
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:25 pmpete says:
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Let’s try a simple equation.
terrorist sympathizers=terrorists
teabaggers=terrorist sympathizers
So?
teabaggers=terrorists
Too bad teabaggers don’t understand logic or reasoning..
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:28 pmI don’t think they understand anything unless they can explain it in like 30-second sound bytes or something!
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:29 pmFuzzy Slippers™ A Solid B+ says:
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Fuzzy, if you file ES and do it 4 times a year you are the only person who does. The folks at the IRS probably laugh at you. Like we do
Not EZ like you minimum wage MORONS, ES ya mongoloid.
Whoa project much?
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:31 pmFuzzyBallSucker:
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:32 pmHoodathunk is intelligent and reasonable..
I just wish I could say the same thing about you.
Fuzzy Slippers™ A Solid B+ says:
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I just hate those stupid FAFSA forms!!
Sure ya do. $3-4000 bucks for about an hour of your time? What a mongoloid.
And about 10 hours to gather all the materials that I need for it like the previous year’s tax returns, bank statements etc.. The filling out part is the easy part.
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:34 pmIt just asks for a ton of information…
I’ve almost finished filling my FAFSA out..I just need my my mom to file her tax return this year so I can finish and submit mine…(I’d get more money if my mom claimed me on her returns than if my dad did, because she makes less than my dad does)…
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:36 pmAhh her return…
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:38 pmGeez I’m dumb sometimes…
Very true, linzloo. That’s why it’s hopeless to make a rational appeal to the teabaggers in, ot out, Congress. However, while they are immune to reason, they do understand things like having their security clearance and committee memberships stripped.
There’s an old saying about being treated like a mushroom “kept in the dark and fed shit”. That’s what should befall any elected official who would dare say such things. The “liberal media” is failing in their duties as watchdogs so We the People need to force the good ones to take public, official, action.
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:39 pmFuzzy Slippers™ A Solid B+ says:
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Fuzzy Slippers™ A Solid B+ says:
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linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:
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I just hate those stupid FAFSA forms!!
Sure ya do. $3-4000 bucks for about an hour of your time? What a mongoloid.
And about 10 hours to gather all the materials that I need for it like the previous year’s tax returns, bank statements etc.. The filling out part is the easy part.
It just asks for a ton of information…
Ohh poor baby, even if it takes YOU that long I doubt you’ll ever make that kind of money in your life again.
Actually as a teacher, I could make $60,000+ after like 10+ years with my local school system..The starting salary is like $40,000..I don’t really care about the money though, I just love helping children learn and working with kids….
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:41 pmSheesh, FuzzyBallSucker is a pain in the rear end tonight!
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:42 pmpete says:
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Very true, linzloo. That’s why it’s hopeless to make a rational appeal to the teabaggers in, ot out, Congress. However, while they are immune to reason, they do understand things like having their security clearance and committee memberships stripped.
There’s an old saying about being treated like a mushroom “kept in the dark and fed shit”. That’s what should befall any elected official who would dare say such things. The “liberal media” is failing in their duties as watchdogs so We the People need to force the good ones to take public, official, action.
Yeah it would be nice if the teabaggers weren’t so effin stupid and the MSM didn’t “legitimize” their movement/MSM did their job.. Geez, where’s Cronkite and Murrow when you need them? Even Stossell has been corrupted by the FauSnooze virus!
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:44 pmAnd I used to respect Stossell too, until he was hired by the GOP propaganda network!!
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:45 pmGood night everybody!
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:54 pmAnd don’t let FuzzyBallSucker get to you!!
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:54 pmlinzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:
Are they also opposed to internationalism?
Yep. They’re still idiots, but at least they’re not also hypocrites.
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Fuzzy Slippers™ A Solid B+ says:
Sure ya do. $3-4000 bucks for about an hour of your time?
Breaking news, wingnut supports overcomplicated government paperwork.
February 22nd, 2010 at 10:58 pmFuzzy Slippers™ A Solid B+ says:
Sure ya do. $3-4000 bucks for about an hour of your time?
Breaking news, wingnut supports overcomplicated government paperwork.
SHOCKER!! Aren’t they supposed to be opposed to bureacracy?
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:24 pm/snarK
Ok goodnight for real this time!
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:26 pmFuzzy Slippers™ A Solid B+ says:
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linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:
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I just hate those stupid FAFSA forms!!
Sure ya do. $3-4000 bucks for about an hour of your time? What a mongoloid.
And about 10 hours to gather all the materials that I need for it like the previous year’s tax returns, bank statements etc.. The filling out part is the easy part.
It just asks for a ton of information…
Ohh poor baby, even if it takes YOU that long I doubt you’ll ever make that kind of money in your life again.
Actually as a teacher, I could make $60,000+ after like 10+ years with my local school system..The starting salary is like $40,000..I don’t really care about the money though, I just love helping children learn and working with kids….
It’s a lot more than what you’ll ever make in your lifetime selling meth…
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:27 pmFuzzyBallSucker,
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:34 pmMust you be a giant buttmunch tonight?
Attn: Lee Fang
I just want to point out to you that you are wrong when you wrote that Joseph Stack was against health care reform.
Stack stated in his long winded babbling rant that our American medical system was a joke and he thought that the drug and insurance companies were murdering and robbing the American people.
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:43 pmThen why is he a teabagger?
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:45 pmAnd no, FuzzyBallSucker, giving blow jobs to crackheads doesn’t count as a job!
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:47 pmHey, Linzloo08…
I can’t claim for this (I wish I could because I happen to think it’s brilliant, not to mention hilarious), but I think you’ll get a charge out of it.
I Am The Very Model Of A Modern Libertarian
(sung to “I Am The Very Model Of A Modern Major-General” from The Pirates Of Penzance)
I am the very model of a modern Libertarian:
I teem with glowing notions for proposals millenarian,
I’ve nothing but contempt for ideologies collectivist
(My own ideas of social good tend more toward the Objectivist).
You see, I’ve just discovered, by my intellectual bravery,
That civic obligations are all tantamount to slavery;
And thus that ancient pastime, viz., complaining of tax-a-ti-on,
Assumes the glorious aspect of a war for li-ber-a-ti-on!
[Chorus:]
You really must admit it’s a delightful re-ve-la-ti-on:
To whine about your taxes is to fight for li-ber-a-ti-on!
I bolster up my claims with lucubrations rather risible
About the Founding Fathers and the market’s hand invisible;
In fact, my slight acquaintance with the fountainhead Pierian
Makes me the very model of a modern Libertarian!
[Chorus:]
His very slight acquaintance with the fountainhead Pierian
Makes him the very model of a modern Libertarian!
All “public wealth” is robbery, we never will accede to it;
You have no rights in anything if you can’t show your deed to it.
(But don’t fear repossession by our Amerind minority:
Those treaties aren’t valid—Uncle Sam had no authority!)
We realize whales and wolves and moose find wilderness quite vital,
And we’ll give back their habitats—if they can prove their title.
But people like unspoil-ed lands (we too will say “hooray” for them),
So we have faith that someone else will freely choose to pay for them.
[Chorus:]
Yes, when the parks are auctioned off, ’twill will be a lucky day for them—
We’re confident that someone else will freely choose to pay for them!
We’ll guard the health of nature by self-interest most astute:
Since pollution is destructive, we’re sure no one ever will pollute.
Thus fac-to-ries will safeguard our communities riparian—
I am the very model of a modern Libertarian!
[Chorus:]
Yes, fac-to-ries will safeguard our communities riparian,
He is the very model of a modern Libertarian!
In short, when I can tell why individual consumers
Know best who should approve their drugs and who should treat their tumors;
Why civilized existence in its intricate con-fu-si-on
Will be simple and straightforward, absent government in-tru-si-on;
Why markets cannot err within the system I’ve described,
Why poor folk won’t be bullied and why wealthy people can’t be bribed,
And why all vast inequities of power and po-si-ti-on
Will vanish when I wave my wand and utter “COM-PE-TI-TI-ON!”—
[Chorus:]
He’s so much more exciting than a common po-li-ti-ci-an,
Inequities will vanish when he hollers “Com-pe-ti-ti-on!”
—And why my lofty rhetoric and arguments meticulous
Inspire shouts of laughter and the hearty cry, “Ridiculous!”,
And why my social the-o-ries all seem so pre-Sumerian—
I’ll be the very model of a modern Libertarian!
[Chorus:]
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:58 pmHis novel social the-o-ries all seem so pre-Sumerian—
He is the very model of a modern Libertarian!
“I’ve read part of it….”
The entire lunatic rant takes all of five minutes at most to read, Rep. King but I’ll spare you what was clearly too much of an effort for your limited abilities. Stack was just another one of those dudes who buys into the “you don’t legally have to pay taxes” argument, except clearly more mentally unbalanced than most. Hello? Wesley Snipes? People keep trying it, and they keep going to jail. Maybe he should have sold that Piper Cherokee and house instead of torching the latter, and murdering innocent people with the former.
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:58 pmWell, Fuzzy is a giant buttmunch pretty much every night, so… I’d say yes.
February 22nd, 2010 at 11:59 pmFuzzy Slippers™ A Solid B+ says:
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Is Steve King sort of harboring terrorists here? What do we do with people who harbor terrorists again?
Well, if you’re Barrack Hussein Obama, you send drone missiles into their civilian populations.
Oh yeah, now you’ve seen the light when it comes to civilian casualties? You were CHEERING drone missile attacks on innocent civilians during the Bush administration…by saying, “KILL THEM ALL!”
February 23rd, 2010 at 1:39 amI cant figure out who hates this country more. The Taliban or the “progressives”. You guys are screwed come November. the only way your gonna be able to get any of your ideals put in place going forward is to act like your now tea party people. just like the republicans are doing…the 2 party system in this country is doomed.
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:13 amTo be fair, what could Congress do to stop a rogue President from firing sohbet
February 23rd, 2010 at 5:32 amoff a nuke at some village? The warhead would already be in the air by the time he could çiçek be impeached for his crimes.
For almost a hundred years, Congress has let the IRS take the heat for its actions. Someone has to educate the Teabaggers that Congress writes the tax laws…the service only enforeces those laws as they are legally obligated to do.
February 23rd, 2010 at 8:34 amComments 338 and 339 flagged for spam..
February 23rd, 2010 at 9:15 amwreckingcrew says:
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I cant figure out who hates this country more. The Taliban or the “progressives”. You guys are screwed come November. the only way your gonna be able to get any of your ideals put in place going forward is to act like your now tea party people. just like the republicans are doing…the 2 party system in this country is doomed.
Yep, and us Progressives will be standing on the sidelines laughing as the Republican party self-implodes and goes the way of the dinosaurs…Mwahaha!!!
February 23rd, 2010 at 9:15 ampezmiztix says:
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christmas is coming early this year…
in november.
Sooo you guys want your lump of coal in november instead…
February 23rd, 2010 at 9:30 amHmm interesting, I’ll pass that memo on to Santa!
Let’s stop paying taxes. That way King won’t be able to collect a paycheck and he will lose his Government benefits.
February 23rd, 2010 at 9:32 amPeople taking this terrorist crap way to seriously. It was NOT domestic terrorism. It was a case of one man, fed up with the crap who actually decided to DO something about it!
Jess
February 23rd, 2010 at 9:39 amhttp://www.complete-anonymity.cz.tc
this wanna be has painfully proven that he is unfit to lead. what else would anyone suspect from an empty suit that has NEVER held an executive or even a managerial position in his life. this man couldn’t manage a KFC let alone a country.
Glad to see that you’ve finally seen the light about President Bush!!!
February 23rd, 2010 at 9:53 ampezmiztix says:
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i believe that if Bush was handed a thriving small business, within one year it would close – especially if it was a kfc.
Fixed it for ya..
February 23rd, 2010 at 9:55 amlinzooloonnutjob…
the writing is already on the wall….
this country has given obama enough failures in his first year, no?
Failures? Are you out of your effin mind?
February 23rd, 2010 at 9:56 amSheesh I would type up a list of all that he has accomplished this year, but I reaaly don’t feel like doing all that typing right now!
PezDispenser,
February 23rd, 2010 at 10:17 amYou’re a riot!! Have you ever considered a career as a comedian?
This is just a continuation of right-wing violence which has been brought upon blacks, homosexuals and countries that never attacked them. Very mentally-ill criminals that need to be locked up. Let out all the non-violent potheads and give their cells to these types, including the congressman.
February 23rd, 2010 at 12:29 pmThe country has not forgotten what a wretched job the Republicans did for 8 years. Sorry, freaks. Obama and the Dems have to do much worse than they are for people to fall for that again.
February 23rd, 2010 at 12:30 pmAs I continue to read reports about this incident, and discontent with the IRS (and other government institutions and policies), all references seem to be directed at right wing extremists.
I’ve heard much grumbling from the left as well, and I’m not convinced all the grumbling, whether left or right, is coming from extremists.
February 23rd, 2010 at 12:48 pmWhat is so unique about the IRS that it generates such utter contempt and hostility?
How come we never hear about suicide attacks on city-county-state revenue enforcement agencies?
February 23rd, 2010 at 1:39 pmFor once I agree with a Republican. I’m fighting the IRS right now. I don’t have diddly-squat anymore and they want to take what little I do have. In addition the IRS itself is a sloppily managed institution. They can’t account for millions of missing dollars.
February 23rd, 2010 at 1:54 pmA hypothetical.
Date: 2005, just after a person avowed to “stop the war” rammed his car into a postal building to stop recruitment flyers from goign out the next day and killed two workers and himself in the process.
Democrat representative Jim Yellowstreak: “you know, I can see that the guy…he had a good point and a good cause in his mind when he did that- but um… ya. The act itself was you know. Bad.”
The next day he’s torn to shreds as a terrorist lover.
February 23rd, 2010 at 2:10 pmOh yes. Never question anything! Right. You people probably think 911 was a real terror attack. Oh i get it, anyone one dissents with own his opinion is a terrorist. Read Read read.
February 23rd, 2010 at 2:25 pmNumer 22, cd says:
Does king really not understand that without taxes he won’t get paid?
Actually, he will. A ruthless bastard like Rep. King has his hands open for anyone who needs him. You can bet on it.
February 23rd, 2010 at 2:50 pmWait a minute, in no way did this interviewee wish for the IRS destruction via violence. You are whipping up the choir here in the same way CPAC people do. Nothing in your report substantially supports your headline or your conclusions.
Let’s hope ThinkProgress doesn’t become another diatribe against sleazy Republicans. Be honest and accurate. You’ll be happier and more respected.
February 23rd, 2010 at 3:35 pmPezDispenser,
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:20 pmAre you effin dense or something?
What makes you think that the Cinservatives are gonna make a comeback in November?
^Conservatives
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:22 pmWhy so much resentment of taxes?? If there were no taxes, then no defense, no roads, no parks, no police, etc…
This S*it isn’t free, unless it is the republican policy (Cheney – “deficits don”t matter”) where you spend and just create huge deficits without any idea as to how to pay for it except for the fantasy of tax cuts for the wealthy magically creating jobs (more likely overseas ones) and the hope that increase in corporate tax revenues during strong growth cycles in the economy will somehow magically erase the deficits -of course they will lobby for corporate tax breaks when the economy becomes strong.
There should be more a resentment of loss of wages, jobs and shrinking salaries in relation to rates of inflation/cost of living.
February 23rd, 2010 at 6:39 pmI am Upset, and very SAD. How much longer will this sort of insanity have to continue? All of this, including 911, could have been prevented.
It is past time for Congress to pass an Assault Plane Bill outlawing the private possession and use of any Plane for such purposes. WE NEED A LAW! They knew long before 911 that planes KILL. Is this the future that we desire for our children; and how long will we continue this insane course?
Ask the question: Who is profiting off the manufacture of the replacement planes? Follow the money. Those fascist aeronautic corps are going to destroy the America we hope to leave our children.
It is past time to say “NO PLANES”.
Planes kill you know!
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:13 pmThe IRS bomber wasn’t “Right Wing.” His suicide note railed against big business (among other parties) and he concludes his note criticizing Capitalism while extolling Communism.
This is the SIGN OFF for the last note he wrote on planet Earth:
“The communist creed: From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.
The capitalist creed: From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed.”
Does that sound like a Right Winger to you?
Don’t take my word for it, read it here: http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2010/0218102stack6.html
Also, King clearly did NOT justify the attack. You only need to read his words to understand that. Where exactly does he justify the attack?
If you’re happy putting all of your faith and too much of your money in the hands of the federal government, that’s your sorry opinion, but at least get your facts straight.
February 23rd, 2010 at 7:18 pmRIGHT ON sanderson13!
Let’s not engage in the sort of twisting of facts that we rail against the conservatives for practicing! Folks on the left have been too quick to assume this guy is some right-wing nutjob. He has been labeled a tea-bagger and an ultra conservative. I have seen no evidence of that. Just because he rails against the IRS does not make him a member of the Tea Party. He does talk about some affiliation with an anti-IRS group at a young age, but he never said anything about the Tea Party. AND since when does anti-corporate rhetoric qualify someone as conservative? If so, then the right and left have a lot more in common than anyone is willing to admit.
February 24th, 2010 at 11:35 amThanks, ksliberal.
Honestly, as soon as I saw the headline, “IRS bombing,” I started counting the minutes until Stack would be associated with the Tea Party movement in the media. Didn’t take very long at all.
I am a Conservative. I used to be a Liberal. Regardless, I’ve never been in favor of a biased media.
Stack was obviously mentally unbalanced. Bi-Polar would be my first layman’s guess. Any individual or media outlet which twists the sad story of Stack’s violent act to cynically push their own agenda should be taken to task.
February 24th, 2010 at 1:01 pmThey should round up the leaders of this right wing domestic terrorist movement and send them down to Gitmo. Isn’t that what the radical right expects? Isn’t that what they think Obama will do because they think he is a Nazi/socialist/Communist/facist? Should they be heading for the hills, living off the land? Why are they still here?
February 26th, 2010 at 11:10 am