South Dakota legislators tell schools to teach ‘astrological’ explanation for global warming.
South Dakota legislators tell schools to teach ‘astrological’ explanation for global warming.
Last week, the South Dakota House of Representatives passed a resolution to “urge” public schools to teach astrology. By a 36-30 vote, the legislators passed House Concurrent Resolution 1009, “Calling for balanced teaching of global warming in the public schools of South Dakota.” After repeating long-debunked denier myths and calling carbon dioxide “the gas of life,” the resolution concludes that public schools should teach that “global warming is a scientific theory rather than a proven fact”:
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, by the House of Representatives of the Eighty-fifth Legislature of the State of South Dakota, the Senate concurring therein, that the South Dakota Legislature urges that instruction in the public schools relating to global warming include the following:
(1) That global warming is a scientific theory rather than a proven fact;
(2) That there are a variety of climatological, meteorological, astrological, thermological, cosmological, and ecological dynamics that can effect [sic] world weather phenomena and that the significance and interrelativity of these factors is largely speculative; and
(3) That the debate on global warming has subsumed political and philosophical viewpoints which have complicated and prejudiced the scientific investigation of global warming phenomena; andBE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that the Legislature urges that all instruction on the theory of global warming be appropriate to the age and academic development of the student and to the prevailing classroom circumstances.
Yesterday, the South Dakota Senate passed by a vote of 18-17 an amended version of the resolution which eliminates most of the anti-science conspiracy theories, but still asserts that the “global warming debate” has “prejudiced the scientific investigation of global climatic change phenomena.” The amended version now “returns to the House for approval.” (HT: Thoughts From Kansas)
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Right wingers are proof of devolution.
February 25th, 2010 at 1:53 pmAstrology = astronomy
Explains everything you need to know about these anti-science fact f**k*rs.
February 25th, 2010 at 1:54 pm‘balanced teaching’…
They teach the Old Testament AND the New Testament, both! Fair and balanced.
February 25th, 2010 at 1:55 pmWell, according to Glenn Beck, conservatives don’t want to evolve. I guess that the South Dakotan legislature agrees with him. Why don’t they just call this legislation the “Let’s Get Stupid” law. Jebus!
February 25th, 2010 at 1:55 pmThey are gonna blame it on the Libra’tarians again.
February 25th, 2010 at 1:56 pmOklahoma is so pissed off that SD upstaged their crazy.
Any word on the theory of evolution?
All hail the Flying Spaghetti Monster!
February 25th, 2010 at 1:57 pmWhat about palmistry? (insert Palin Joke here)
February 25th, 2010 at 1:57 pmYes. They’re spectacularly stupid and in our system, every stupid citizen in their state gets hundreds of times more representation in Congress than the average citizen in California or New York.
Just another reason to re-think those filibuster rules.
February 25th, 2010 at 1:58 pm“Thermological?”
OK, Mr Smarty pants.
February 25th, 2010 at 1:58 pmstewarjt,
February 25th, 2010 at 1:58 pmI agree. Republicans seem to yearn for a retrogression of current progressive American political and social mores. No wonder it’s so f***ing difficult to get anything done.
Another WTF moment.
…products from the All Children Left Behind plan.
February 25th, 2010 at 1:58 pm.
All God fearing socialist Government Run public schools know…
… If it’s in the Bible, teach it!
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February 25th, 2010 at 1:59 pm.
And of course, all God fearing socialist Government Run Legislators know…
… If science proves the Bible wrong, Mandate it!
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February 25th, 2010 at 1:59 pmMaybe the resolution was written by a Home Skooler.
February 25th, 2010 at 2:00 pmWhy do they seem so resentful of global warming?
They really do seem to resent it, don’t they?
February 25th, 2010 at 2:01 pmSomeone should investigate, using the tools of chirology.
February 25th, 2010 at 2:03 pmgravity?
February 25th, 2010 at 2:03 pmNow all South Dakota children can learn that global warming is the result of Apollo piloting his sun chariot closer to the surface of the planet. Need more sacrifice to the sun god!
February 25th, 2010 at 2:05 pmWhoever wrote that must be a Pisces or a Gemini. They’ll all kind of ditzy.
February 25th, 2010 at 2:05 pmYou spelled Scholer wrong
February 25th, 2010 at 2:06 pmWere they Roman?
February 25th, 2010 at 2:07 pm“When the moon is in the Seventh House
And Jupiter aligns with Mars
Then peace will guide the planets
And love will steer the stars”
Oh yeah South Dakota, let’s go with the astrological. But will you allow the nude scenes?
February 25th, 2010 at 2:07 pmThey should contact the spirit of Ronald Reagan in school wide seances. Find out what the gipper really thinks.
February 25th, 2010 at 2:09 pmThis is one of those small population states that gets its way because of the antiquated rules discouraging majority rules in the Senate. Look at where the Senators come from when they try to obstruct Congressional business. They are similarly situated and just as crazy.
A small population state that’s half-idiots. I guess it could be worse; it could be heavily populated and half-idiocy.
February 25th, 2010 at 2:09 pmSoaring Eagle says:
Praise God we’re going back to that old time religion. It was good enough for the little Malonites and it’s good enough for me!
Wanna’ buy a used hairshirt?
February 25th, 2010 at 2:10 pmIt’s funny and sad at the same time isn’t it?
February 25th, 2010 at 2:11 pmYou know your state is run by asshats and liars when they have to steal talking points from creationists.
February 25th, 2010 at 2:11 pmHow about a like-new scourge? Can’t show the lord your commitment, without a good scourge.
February 25th, 2010 at 2:12 pmDid a Leo draft that bill? They always wanna be in the limelight…
February 25th, 2010 at 2:13 pmFor sore beagle:
R E S P E C T
god loves homosexuals
February 25th, 2010 at 2:16 pmSo let me get this straight… the legislature is objecting to ‘political’ viewpoints ‘complicat[ing] and prejudic[ing] the scientific investigation’ into climate change and there response is a political resolution to tell science teachers how to teach the science???
Really?
February 25th, 2010 at 2:16 pmThis is why are students perform so poorly compared to the rest of the World. Instead of teaching facts, they are determined to set an agenda a Religious Dogma. Religion does not belong in the classroom. It belongs in Church.
February 25th, 2010 at 2:17 pmIdiocracy…
Speaking of right-wing idiots:
Who is Trigg’s real mommie?
Who is Trigg’s real daddie?
February 25th, 2010 at 2:17 pmNo.
Very reasonably priced. Hair like Donald Trump. You’d love it.
February 25th, 2010 at 2:17 pmI’m assuming they mean astronomy. There’s a big difference between the two. Are they that dumb?
February 25th, 2010 at 2:17 pm22 Soaring Eagle says:
…the little Malonites and it’s good enough for me!
Specify: Malonites
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Wikipedia.com:
February 25th, 2010 at 2:17 pmThere were no results matching the query.
dammit!
February 25th, 2010 at 2:17 pms/b *their response…
Are they that dumb?
Rhetorical question?
February 25th, 2010 at 2:18 pmWhat about Terra Cards? They should be valid also…right?
Those Righties are sure a sharp…LoL!!!
February 25th, 2010 at 2:18 pmThe only “theory” these goobers believe, was Bishop Usher’s theory about the beginning of the world.
February 25th, 2010 at 2:18 pmAhhh, South Dakota legislature’s view of global warming is sure to be featured in all scientific journals around the world and be added to the curriculum of all clown colleges.
February 25th, 2010 at 2:19 pmIn how many other subjects has the South Dakota House of Representatives inserted itself and its judgment into the educational process?
Is this a standard area of interest for this body?
February 25th, 2010 at 2:20 pmWhy is the legislature involved in the school curriculum when that is best handled by the educators? Any time politicians get involved with these type of issues, it is because people are using education as a football to be tossed between opposing sides. We cannot afford to let education become a political battleground. Only the students will get hurt.
February 25th, 2010 at 2:23 pmNext up, they’ll begin teaching that our world is just six thousand years old, and our ancestors kept dinosaurs as pets.
February 25th, 2010 at 2:24 pmSo if they want to teach about alignment of the stars they should remember the Great Old Ones.
February 25th, 2010 at 2:25 pmThey were not composed altogether of flesh and blood. They had shape…but that shape was not made of matter. When the stars were right, They could plunge from world to world through the sky; but when the stars were wrong, They could not live. But although They no longer lived, They would never really die. They all lay in stone houses in Their great city of R’lyeh, preserved by the spells of mighty Cthulhu for a glorious resurrection when the stars and the earth might once more be ready for Them.
It is sort of interesting how the bill sites all of these ‘logical’ aspects while their intent denies them. Maybe they are just waiting for the Mayans to weigh in on the subject. After all, they are talking a deluge for Xmas in 2012.
February 25th, 2010 at 2:26 pm1) These people don’t know what a theory is.
2) These people think that apparently whether or not Earth is a Libra determines climate.
3) These people seem to be under the false assumption that because THEY are too political to look at fact and see reality that scientists are as well.
Conclusion – these people are too stupid to be telling anyone how or what to teach to children.
February 25th, 2010 at 2:27 pm.
I’m waiting for the socialist Government Run Legislators to mandate that man and dinosaurs co-existed.
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February 25th, 2010 at 2:28 pmI’m working on “Let The Eagle Soar, Part ll
If your eagle is sore, try an ointment. Or a beer.
February 25th, 2010 at 2:28 pmhttp://thinkprogress.org/2010/02/25/puppet-cleavage/#comment-6038036
February 25th, 2010 at 2:28 pmif they meant astronomy, that’s just pathetic…
If they really meant astrology, well THE BIBLE has something to say about that…
February 25th, 2010 at 2:29 pmSoaring Eagle says:
Dear readers,
I’m working on “Let The Eagle Soar, Part ll”, I’ll let you know when it’s ready.
Shouldn’t you be worried about the word TEH and TEH GAY AGENDA?
February 25th, 2010 at 2:29 pmCHP says:
February 25th, 2010 at 2:30 pmNext up, they’ll begin teaching that our world is just six thousand years old, and our ancestors kept dinosaurs as pets.
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And the T-rex was a vegetarian, banana’s are proof of God and disprove evolution and that Kirk Cameron is a good actor. *shivers*
Has anyone noticed their comments going back in time?
February 25th, 2010 at 2:30 pm*raises hand*
I have, USCKitty. It causes some problems when you’re trying to respond to a post and suddenly your post shows up before the one to which you were replying.
February 25th, 2010 at 2:31 pm#57 USCKitty,
You mean that the Star of Bethlehem was a demonic sign, NO?
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February 25th, 2010 at 2:32 pmUSCKitty =^..^= the official oracle of the Most Holy Chloe says:
Has anyone noticed their comments going back in time?
Yes, I’ve noticed it.
February 25th, 2010 at 2:32 pmSoaring Eagle says:
I’m working on “Let The Eagle Soar, Part ll”, I’ll let you know when it’s ready
I would rather you ANSWER my previous question Beagle.
22 Soaring Eagle says:
…the little Malonites and it’s good enough for me!
Specify: Malonites
Dictionary.com:
No results found for malonites
Wikipedia.com:
February 25th, 2010 at 2:33 pmThere were no results matching the query
the rethugs…..keep em’ dumb and voting red.
February 25th, 2010 at 2:33 pmSoaring Eagle says:
Dear readers,
I’m working on “Let The Eagle Soar, Part ll”, I’ll let you know when it’s ready.
February 25th, 2010 at 2:34 pm–
Don’t you know that equals usually suck more than the original. In this case the original was bad enough…how can you make it any worse?
Pay no attention to the time travel aspect of postings. TP is working on finding a stargate that will allow trolls to return to Bedrock.
Either that or it is an interesting glitch in the system.
February 25th, 2010 at 2:34 pmNOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, by the House of Representatives of the Eighty-fifth Legislature of the State of South Dakota, the Senate concurring therein, that the South Dakota Legislature urges that instruction in the public schools relating to the value of pi include the following:
(1) That the value of pi is an irrational number rather than a proven fact;
February 25th, 2010 at 2:35 pm(2) It is also a transcendental number, which implies, among other things, that no finite sequence of algebraic operations on integers (powers, roots, sums, etc.) can be equal to its value; and
(3) It’s really complicated and makes multiplication and geometry and stuff really hard; and
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that the Legislature urges that all instruction on the value of pi to be equal to the number “3.”
43. Lefty Liberal says:
(Sorry for the OT, but I actually wrote my dissertation on this subject, and later published a book.)
Actually, it has broken down at cosmological distances as well. The structure of galaxies cannot be explained within the Standard Model, which is why they invented “dark matter.” But “dark matter” has consistently defied detection. So there are currently several broad families of scientifically legitimate alternatives (that is, real theories representing real research, published in the peer-reviewed literature) that are currently on the table:
MOND: Modified Newtonian Dynamic
Bimetric: vs. Einstein’s “monometric” theory, the latter collapsing the contingent relations of physics into the necessary ones of geometry, the former holding these two separate. It is worth noting that MOND and bimetric theories overlap each other quite a bit.
TeVeS: Tensor-Vector-Scalar theories
February 25th, 2010 at 2:37 pmScience by the cafeteria plan.
February 25th, 2010 at 2:38 pmThat’s the way they approach all truth… pick what you like and pass by the rest.
It’s all those damned Pisces causing Global Climate Disruption.
Pisces – Feb. 25, 2010
A change of profession may be in the stars for you, Pisces, or a change of hobby at the very least. The latest technological advances have really captured your interest. Making films, in particular, gets your creative juices flowing. Perhaps it’s time to sign up for a weekend workshop or splurge on that video camera you’ve been eyeing. The diversion will do you a world of good.
February 25th, 2010 at 2:40 pmLefty Liberal says:
bizarrobrain (Sponsored by Tysons chicken in a tube!) says:
Soaring Eagle says:
Dear readers,
I’m working on “Let The Eagle Soar, Part ll”, I’ll let you know when it’s ready.
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Don’t you know that equals usually suck more than the original. In this case the original was bad enough…how can you make it any worse?
Well one difference is that (and I hate the fact that I am saying anything nice about John Asscroft) is that he had a halfway decent voice for an amateur.
February 25th, 2010 at 2:40 pm–
I guess so…I watched the video once and that was enough for me. That was four shockingly awful minutes of listening to his frighteningly jingoistic ditty delivered straight from the podium to the stunned crowd and CNN cameras, terrifying small children and animals and causing yet another bout of global wincing. Sad.
They can’t even tell the difference between “affect” and “effect,” yet the South Dakota House of Representatives wants to tell teachers what science to teach. Amazing.
February 25th, 2010 at 2:42 pmThe GOP
Building a Bridge
to the
11th Century!!
February 25th, 2010 at 2:43 pmAnd no mention of required reading of the Quatrains of Nostradamus???
February 25th, 2010 at 2:45 pmLefty Liberal says:
February 25th, 2010 at 2:50 pmYou think that four minutes was bad, you should have lived in Missouri when he was Attorney General, Governor, and the US Senator! Gives a whole new meaning of the term “Mizzery” (actually with him, it doesn’t…)
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True. But it’s bad enough the man ramrodded the USA Patriot Act down the nation’s throat, blithely butchering our civil liberties and scanning our email and indefinitely detaining immigrants while openly stating that if you oppose any of his all-American draconian laws you are clearly a Communist terrorist sympathizer and should be shot and perhaps sodomized by leprous cannibalistic agnostics on the spot. Completely true. Except for maybe the lepers thing. And he used eight grand of our tax money to cover up those statues because he has a deep fear of sex and large aluminum nipples.
They also don’t know the difference between astrological and astronomical.
February 25th, 2010 at 2:57 pm78. Lefty Liberal says:
First two attempts to post this failed; hopefully it won’t come up twice. It appears my attempts to post a URL is being blocked.
But two places to look are the Alternative Cosmology Group’s newsletter at
www DOT cosmology DOT info SLASH newsletter SLASH index.html
The papers referenced in it all are research papers, online at the arXiv.org website.
Another site would be “the Mond Pages”. Since I can’t seem to post a message with more than one link in it I’ll simply observe that when I plug the above literal into Google, it is the first link that comes up.
I would add that this really is not OT; after all, what could be more appropriate than comparing a REAL scientific controversy with the pretensions of one as fabricated by the anti-science deniers and their ilk?
February 25th, 2010 at 2:59 pmA question for South Dakota and our weirdo trolls. If your religious beliefs and desire for theocratic rule is so cool, why are there no theocracies in the supposedly Christian nations of the world? Why has every civilized country that claims Christianity as a base religion decided to keep it out of their government?
Including the US.
February 25th, 2010 at 3:03 pmSoaring Eagle says:
I’m working on “Let The Eagle Soar, Part ll”, I’ll let you know when it’s ready.
Please-No more trite prose. There ought to be a law against gross abuse of the English language.
February 25th, 2010 at 3:03 pmThere is an astrological explanation for global warming? Damn. Good thing I’m a Pisces.
February 25th, 2010 at 3:06 pmAny quick witted lawyer could have this tossed because it requires the impossible:
That teachers explain how a noun (ecological dynamics) can noun (effect) something else. This cannot be done, and is tantamount to requiring that one possess pot in order to acquire the tax stamp that makes the possession of the pot legal. It places a set of circumstances that cannot be fulfilled into law. There is no way to abide by the law as written.
Were it me, I would go a step further in the deserved embarrassment that I was handing the legislature and ask the court for clarification on whether they are referring to the 12 or 13 sign Zodiac when teaching the “astrological” effects on climate.
I’d also like them to clarify whether they are referring to climate change, as is indicated by use of the out-of-date term “global warming” in the preamble of the bill, or weather, which is mentioned in section two. These are two wildly different topics, and if the teachers are to adhere to this law, they should make clear which subject they would like to dictate.
My final point would be for the legislature to provide a definition for the word “thermological.” This appears to be a made up word, and is not included in the dictionary. It is, therefore, necessary that they clarify this term.
Any lawyer worth his salt would have the entire body looking like the complete idiots that they are within 5 minutes of stepping in front of the judge.
February 25th, 2010 at 3:09 pmCthulu R’yleh Mgluweh ‘Fthtagan! Beware the Great Old Ones, for soon the stars will be right!
February 25th, 2010 at 3:10 pmSoapBox says:
Soaring Eagle says:
I’m working on “Let The Eagle Soar, Part ll”, I’ll let you know when it’s ready
I would rather you ANSWER my previous question Beagle.
22 Soaring Eagle says:
…the little Malonites and it’s good enough for me!
Specify: Malonites
Dictionary.com:
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Wikipedia.com:
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Try SoapBox says:
Soaring Eagle says:
I’m working on “Let The Eagle Soar, Part ll”, I’ll let you know when it’s ready
I would rather you ANSWER my previous question Beagle.
22 Soaring Eagle says:
…the little Malonites and it’s good enough for me!
Specify: Malonites
Dictionary.com:
No results found for malonites
Wikipedia.com:
There were no results matching the query
Try SoapBox says:
Soaring Eagle says:
I’m working on “Let The Eagle Soar, Part ll”, I’ll let you know when it’s ready
I would rather you ANSWER my previous question Beagle.
22 Soaring Eagle says:
…the little Malonites and it’s good enough for me!
Specify: Malonites
Dictionary.com:
No results found for malonites
Wikipedia.com:
There were no results matching the query
Cenabites may be what you’re looking for. Google it. Watch it.
February 25th, 2010 at 3:10 pmI’m quite sure Cenabites are actually living in South Dakota.
Sorry about redundancy in 91…
Cenabites, of course, are what emerged in the Hellraiser movies.
February 25th, 2010 at 3:13 pmCenabites may be what you’re looking for.
I think he means Cinnabites.
Those things are the bomb.
February 25th, 2010 at 3:13 pmI live next door to these weirdos, prarie life must be tough for them.
February 25th, 2010 at 3:15 pmWhat’s the best thing to ever come out of South Dakota?
I-29.
February 25th, 2010 at 3:18 pmYa-know, Gravity is still “Just a Theory” so why don’t these wingnuts go disavow it and jump off a cliff?
February 25th, 2010 at 3:24 pmyou should have lived in Missouri when he was Attorney General, Governor, and the US Senator!
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#82 Lefty Liberal . .
Didn’t Asscroft lose to a dead guy??
February 25th, 2010 at 3:24 pmWe, the Illuminati, are the Masters of He who is both the Gate and the Key, Nyalrathotep! Our Secret Temples (232 South Main Street, Gettysburg, Pennsylvania) and our Secret Rites (Necronomicon, Chapters 1 thru 8, inclusive) and our Ancient Rituals (Unspreiklicht Kulten, Von Westerhagen translation) will soon enable us to Rule the World. Do not, however, ask what time this will take place at, for it is a Most Grave Secret!
February 25th, 2010 at 3:27 pmWow; South Dakotans proudly extorting their commitment to excellence in education well into the 18th century.
Talk about aiming low.
February 25th, 2010 at 3:27 pmSomeone should mention to the people of South Dakota that gravity is also a theory. I have not been there since I was a kid but I do not remember stuff floating around. I do not know, has gravity failed this northerly state?
February 25th, 2010 at 5:08 pmoh holy mother of goddamn … Astrological? oh shit oh dear…
Please wipe the tears from my face after I pick myself up from ROFLMAO…
cretins. fracking cretins.
February 25th, 2010 at 5:09 pmThe new Lord’s Prayer for S. Dakota. “Our Father, who art in the Star Charts, Reagan be Thy Name.” Since Ronnie and Nancy depended on Astrology to guide the destiny of America the rightwingnuts have decided that it is a legitimate science, which stands above all others. Therefore, it will be the final word in any arguement concerning scientific matters.
LizCoro @#97, yes, he did lose his senate race to a dead guy. What was even funnier was when, as Attorney General, he spent taxpayer money to cover up the statue of Blind Justice, because he objected to the nudity. When he held a press conference in front of the draped statue some wag suggested that he had covered up the wrong boob.
February 25th, 2010 at 5:18 pmSo do the legislators have a “theory” as to how global warming is an astrological result? The theory of global warming? I have a theory of my own I would like to present. People who live in low population densities get dumber the further away they are from large cities. Just look at a map of GOP stupidity, would really explain why Palin is very dumb. Yes, in fact there is no large cities in far eastern Russia. Oh, who is watching the Russians now with Palin collecting speech money?
February 25th, 2010 at 5:21 pm@ 23. Fred ♪♫♪ says: … Were they Roman? February 25th, 2010 at 2:07 pm
Dang, Fred ♪♫♪, ya think? Could be. Some of those villages in Iberia go back earlier than the Romans though. Could go back to Celtic times (in which case, maybe they’d be Maloneys rather than Malonites). Could also be Basque; in fact, there’s perhaps a real high probability for that, since the village is in Basque country.
February 25th, 2010 at 5:23 pmAmericans love their stupidity more than just about anything in the world.
February 25th, 2010 at 5:23 pmHere’s the really sad part. This is all false information. SD House Concurrent Resolution actually endorses the federal homeowners and bank protection act. No global warming involved. I checked the entire listing of bills, resolutions, and concurrent resolutions for both the SD House and Senate. No such legislation exists. I don’t know where the author of this story got his information, but we South Dakotans really aren’t as ignorant as he would lead you all to believe. Perhaps a little fact checking would have been useful!!
February 25th, 2010 at 5:50 pmI’m upset that it’s all a lie!
February 25th, 2010 at 5:56 pmAn iceberg the size of Luxembourg knocked loose from the Antarctic continent earlier this month could disrupt the ocean currents driving weather patterns around the globe, researchers said Thursday.
February 25th, 2010 at 5:59 pmWhile the impact would not be felt for decades or longer, a slowdown in the production of colder, dense water could result in less temperate winters in the north Atlantic, they said.
The 2550 square-kilometre (985 square-mile) block broke off on February 12 or 13 from the Mertz Glacier Tongue, a 160-kilometer spit of floating ice protruding into the Southern Ocean from East Antarctica due south of Melbourne, researchers said.
http://www.physorg.com/news186339017.html
Also, South Dakota is currently in it’s 84th legislative year, not 85th. If you’re going to make up a story, st least get something right.
February 25th, 2010 at 6:01 pmhttp://legis.state.sd.us/sessions/2010/Amendment.aspx?Amend=amdc1009tb.htm
moved that HCR 1009 be amended as follows:
On page 1 of the printed resolution, delete lines 1 to 13, inclusive, and insert:
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A CONCURRENT RESOLUTION, Calling for a balanced approach for instruction in the public schools relating to global climatic change.
WHEREAS, evidence relating to global climatic change is complex and subject to varying scientific interpretations; and
WHEREAS, there are a variety of climatological and meteorological dynamics that can affect world weather phenomena, and the significance and interrelativity of these factors remain unresolved; and
WHEREAS, the debate on global warming has subsumed political and philosophical viewpoints, which has complicated and prejudiced the scientific investigation of global climatic change phenomena:
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, by the House of Representatives of the Eighty-fifth Legislature of the State of South Dakota, the Senate concurring therein, that the South Dakota Legislature urges that all instruction in the public schools relating to global climatic change be presented in a balanced and objective manner and be appropriate to the age and academic development of the student and to the prevailing classroom circumstances.”.
Seems to all be there to me Holly J. Even that its the 85th legislature…
February 25th, 2010 at 6:03 pmThis is what happens when politicians who are scientifically illiterate attempt to create public policy based on ignorance of the science that they are attempting to legislate.
February 25th, 2010 at 6:22 pmThey don’t feel comfortable seeking advice from real scientists — they use too many big words, after all — so they wing it by drawing upon their own 5th grade science education.
Bible-humping boors should be barred from public office.
February 25th, 2010 at 6:31 pm@ 106. Hollyjean …
You’re wrong, Holly. HCR 1009 does call for teaching regarding the astrological aspects, among others of climate change; the concurrent SD Senate bill strips out the astrological silliness and some other language.
Here’s the text of the House resolution, as of 2/16 (and I’ve provided a link to the official SD House page of the bill);
HCR 1009. Calling for a balanced approach for instruction in the public schools relating to global climatic change.
A CONCURRENT RESOLUTION, Calling for balanced teaching of global warming in the public schools of South Dakota.
WHEREAS, the earth has been cooling for the last eight years despite small increases in anthropogenic carbon dioxide; and
WHEREAS, there is no evidence of atmospheric warming in the troposphere where the majority of warming would be taking place; and
WHEREAS, historical climatological data shows without question the earth has gone through trends where the climate was much warmer than in our present age. The Climatic Optimum and Little Climatic Optimum are two examples. During the Little Climatic Optimum, Erik the Red settled Greenland where they farmed and raised dairy cattle. Today, ninety percent of Greenland is covered by massive ice sheets, in many places more than two miles thick; and
WHEREAS, the polar ice cap is subject to shifting warm water currents and the break-up of ice by high wind events. Many oceanographers believe this to be the major cause of melting
polar ice, not atmospheric warming; and
WHEREAS, carbon dioxide is not a pollutant but rather a highly beneficial ingredient for all plant life on earth. Many scientists refer to carbon dioxide as “the gas of life”; and
WHEREAS, more than 31,000 American scientists collectively signed a petition to President Obama stating: “There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, or methane, or other greenhouse gasses is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the earth’s atmosphere and disruption of the earth’s climate. Moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide will produce many beneficial effects on the natural plant and animal environments of the earth”:
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, by the House of Representatives of the Eighty-fifth Legislature of the State of South Dakota, the Senate concurring therein, that the South Dakota Legislature urges that instruction in the public schools relating to global warming include the following:
(1) That global warming is a scientific theory rather than a proven fact;
(2) That there are a variety of climatological, meteorological, astrological, thermological, cosmological, and ecological dynamics that can effect world weather phenomena and that the significance and interrelativity of these factors is largely speculative; and
(3) That the debate on global warming has subsumed political and philosophical viewpoints which have complicated and prejudiced the scientific investigation of global warming phenomena; and
BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that the Legislature urges that all instruction on the theory of global warming be appropriate to the age and academic development of the student and to the prevailing classroom circumstances.
http://legis.state.sd.us/sessions/2010/Bill.aspx?File=HCR1009P.htm
February 25th, 2010 at 6:39 pmGary Herstein @ 85 – it’s this kind of semi-digression and exchange of information that I really enjoy at TP (cause I’m a proud science geek).
February 25th, 2010 at 6:47 pm/facepalm
This shows so astonishingly clueless an understanding of science, and its relationship with “proven fact(s)”, that one wonders if the individual(s) who drafted this daft piece of legislation have ever opened up a science book at all. Their children are highly likely to be dramatically more informed than these legislators, EVEN with horrifically skewed homeschooling turning said kids’ concept of reality into so much mush.
This is sheer lunacy (yet, par for the course). A woefully inadequate understanding of what makes a scientific theory (remarkably) different from a non-scientific theory? Astrology as a scientific pursuit? I would say it’s un-f***ing-believable, but unfortunately it is all-too-f***ing-believable.
February 25th, 2010 at 6:49 pmOh Dog, are there seriously still people out there peddling the theory that the Earth is cooling and that carbon dioxide is good? Teaching this subject in balance is fine with me, as long as they includeboth sides of this issue, not just one side (and yes, I don’t agree too much with schools that teach that global warming is bad; while I agree with that idea, I like to be exposed to new ideas and theories too).
February 25th, 2010 at 6:50 pm*Facepalm*
February 25th, 2010 at 6:52 pmAnd why are these people in public office again?
Woohoo Flying Pidgeon is back!!
February 25th, 2010 at 6:53 pmSoaring Eagle says:
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Let The Eagle Soar ll
You liberals want the eagle to die
Oh why, oh why, oh why, oh why?
You can see she only wants to fly
Higher then any thing in the sky,
And you can’t stop her even if you try.
She’s flying above the godless cities
New York, Chicago and Los Angeles too
She’s dropping her freedom guano on you
It doesn’t matter if your name is Amanda, Farad or Sue.
Oh, she’s got a real good aim
You’re never going to be the same
You liberals are such a bore
It’s time to let the mighty eagle soar once more.
Let the eagle soar,
Just like she soared once before.
From mighty coal mines to
Nuclear power plants galore.
Soar with pulsing muscles in her wings,
As the real Americans below her think:
‘Obama is a Kenyan fink’
Let the mighty eagle soar, once more.
This country’s turned the tide.
It’s too bad Joe Stack died,
The homo and atheist will try.
But they won’t win, do you know why?
Because it’s time for the mighty eagle to fly.
We’ve had Tea Parties to be free
ACORN’s whore house has been exposed for all to see
And Lord knows it hasn’t been easy.
Sean, Rush and yes, Brit too
Have shown us just what to do
Glenn’s blackboard has show us the way
Where will you be on judgement day?
Let the mighty eagle soar, once more.
Let the eagle soar,
Just like she soared once before.
From mighty coal mines to
Nuclear power plants galore.
Soar with pulsing muscles in her wings,
As the real Americans below her think:
‘Obama is a Kenyan fink’
Let the mighty eagle soar, once more.
Finally, it’s out in the open.
February 25th, 2010 at 6:54 pmFlying Pidgeon,
February 25th, 2010 at 6:55 pmAre you a parody troll or an actual troll?
Astrology?
Do they mean astronomy?
February 25th, 2010 at 7:12 pmZooey, they might.
Doesn’t matter. If this law passes as-is, guess what will be taught in school as science? Astrology.
February 25th, 2010 at 7:19 pmExcuse me, it WAS passed as-is, but is CURRENTLY just a “suggestion”, as opposed to law. Plus, it looks like they might have (finally, well AFTER proof-readers, aides, and legislators themselves should have caught such an insanely obvious screw-up).
My bad.
February 25th, 2010 at 7:24 pmliam says:
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#120, For the record how many stupid pills did you take before you wrote that?
A gazillion!
February 25th, 2010 at 7:34 pmheh, who knows how many stupid pills Flying PidgeonPoop took.. Knowing him/her, it was a lot..
February 25th, 2010 at 7:35 pmsmidget (presented by Blue Cross Blue Shield) says:
Conclusion – these people are too stupid to be telling anyone how or what to teach to children.
Progressive Arrogance knows no bounds!
February 25th, 2010 at 10:45 pmTroll ignorance knows no bounds!
February 25th, 2010 at 11:39 pm#115 Virtual Pebble,
No wonder we’ve been warming…
… We’re in the Dawning of the Age of Aquarius.
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February 26th, 2010 at 1:14 amSmidget @ 89 “Were it me, I would go a step further in the deserved embarrassment that I was handing the legislature and ask the court for clarification on whether they are referring to the 12 or 13 sign Zodiac when teaching the “astrological” effects on climate.”
I agree, Smidget. And further, I would like to know if they’re also including the Fixed Stars and/or the Asteroids.
February 26th, 2010 at 1:43 amThe global warming hoax. … enough already.
http://www.investors.com/NewsAndAnalysis/Article.aspx?id=522005
February 26th, 2010 at 2:37 amMr Duke
No it isnt a hoax. You are just too stupid to understand science or anything else. You however ARE a moron. Enough of your ignorance already
February 26th, 2010 at 4:06 amI have to admit, the equation of global warming denialism to astrology is quite apt.
February 26th, 2010 at 9:30 amEugene, you nitwit. Still showing your ignorance, I see. I always get a good laugh reading what you and your ignorant e-buddies have to say. The AGW scam has been over for almost three months now and you all are still clueless. Can’t you people read? Anyway, you were right about the “hockey stick graph” In my opinion, the libtards on this thread are represented by all the colors except black. LOL
http://pajamasmedia.com/zombie/files/2010/02/AGW_hockey_stick_graph_big.gif
February 26th, 2010 at 9:35 amnofreelunch says:
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Eugene, you nitwit. Still showing your ignorance, I see. I always get a good laugh reading what you and your ignorant e-buddies have to say. The AGW scam has been over for almost three months now and you all are still clueless. Can’t you people read? Anyway, you were right about the “hockey stick graph” In my opinion, the libtards on this thread are represented by all the colors except black. LOL
http://pajamasmedia.com/zombie/files/2010/02/AGW_hockey_stick_graph_big.gif
Seriously, do you still think that AGW is a “scam”? Why do you think so? Can you please give me some credible evidence to back up your statement?
February 26th, 2010 at 1:38 pmthe mildly retarded of South Dakota, leading the mildly retarded who elected them. So good to know that “thought” is alive and well in that part of the country.
February 27th, 2010 at 10:39 amI’m outraged that the South Dakota legislators are hiding the phrenological evidence against global warming. It’s a liberal plot to discredit the science of phrenology, which can be used to illustrate why nofreelunch is such a genius.
February 27th, 2010 at 2:02 pmBush’s pro-life policies might have cost more lives than it “saved” though his views on stem cell research. Here’s a new technology sohbet that showed the most promise since penicillin, yet we were çiçek restricted for nearly a decade because one man thought it was morally the same thing as shooting a five year old in the head.
March 2nd, 2010 at 4:34 amWhy is the legislature involved in the school curriculum when that is best handled by the educators? Any time politicians get involved with these type of issues, it is because people are using education as a football to be tossed between opposing sides. We cannot afford to let education become a political battleground. Only the students will get hurt.
March 3rd, 2010 at 3:47 pm