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Liz Cheney Falsely Claims Her ‘Al Qaeda 7’ Smear Ad ‘Doesn’t Question Anybody’s Loyalty’

As ThinkProgress has noted, Liz Cheney and Bill Kristol’s Keep America Safe organization released a web ad on Monday targeting yet-to-be named Justice Department lawyers who had worked on Guantanamo detainee issues as the “al Qaeda 7.” “Whose values do they share?” asked the ad over an image of seven silhouettes juxtaposed with images of Arabic men. When Politico’s Ben Smith first reported on the attack ad, he noted that it “questions the loyalties of Justice Department lawyers.”

But in an interview today on the Washington Times’ “America’s Morning News” radio show, Cheney denied that the ad questioned “anybody’s loyalty”:

HOLMES: Liz, good morning. So you released a fairly provocative ad, I have to say. And you ask the question “whose values” [does] Eric Holder share? In your view, whose values does he share?

CHENEY: Well, what the ad does — and actually it doesn’t question anybody’s loyalty. What the ad does is it says that there are nine lawyers in the Justice Department who used to represent al Qaeda terrorists and the Attorney General will only tell us who two of them are and we want the American people to have the right to know who the others are.

Guest host Amy Holmes continued to press Cheney on the point, repeating her question. “But your ad does raise the question ‘whose values’ does Eric Holder share. Who would you say?” Cheney dodged the question, stating that she thinks Holder “believes that you can defeat terror, you can win this war we’re engaged in by treating terrorism like law enforcement.” Listen here:

Cheney is simply lying. Not only does the ad suggest that the lawyers might “share” the “values” of al Qaeda, but it also flashes an image of a headline from the far right Investor’s Business Daily asking if the Justice Department was the “Department of Jihad?” “Just whose side are they on?” asked the editorial.

When Politico’s Smith first reported on the ad, Keep America Safe spokesman Michael Goldfarb gave him a quote that essentially accused the lawyers of treason, saying that they “did far more than represent criminals.” “They have propagandized on behalf of our enemies, engaging in a worldwide smear campaign against the CIA, the U.S. military and the United States itself while we are at war,” said Goldfarb. On Tuesday, Keep America Safe released a fundraising letter in Cheney’s name that used the exact same language:

Keep America Safe e-mail solicitation from 3/2/2010

Former Bush administration officials have pushed back against the ad. “While it’s legitimate for the public to inquire about the past work of DOJ political appointees, we need to recognize that our judicial system cannot function without pro bono counsel, and it doesn’t make a lawyer less patriotic just because he or she has represented a criminal or terrorist suspect,” former U.S. attorney and homeland security adviser Kenneth Wainstein told the Washington Post. “It’s beyond a cheap shot to suggest that a lawyer is an al-Qaeda sympathizer because he advocates a detainee’s position in the Supreme Court,” said former Bush White House lawyer Reginald Brown.

For more on Cheney’s smearing of the Justice Department lawyers, read today’s Progress Report.

Update American Bar Association President Carolyn Lamm told TPMmuckraker's Justin Elliott today that Keep America Safe's ad is "a divisive and diversionary tactic" to impugn "the character of lawyers who have sought to protect the fundamental rights of unpopular clients."
Update The American Prospect's Adam Serwer points out that Keep America Safe Spokesman Aaron Harison struggled in an interview with Main Justice to say that the group wasn't claiming the lawyers are sympathetic to al Qaeda:
Harison said that private attorneys advocating for detainees raised a lot of questions because “sometimes you can’t make the distinction” between representation and being “soft on terror.” Harison also said the organization was more concerned that the DOJ lawyers are soft on terror than that they hold sympathetic views about al Qaeda.
Update Former Bush administration official Peter D. Keisler told the New York Times today that the attack on the Justice Department lawyers who defended detainees is "wrong" because "there is a longstanding and very honorable tradition of lawyers representing unpopular or controversial clients." "It’s wrong to suggest that people who took that position are somehow sympathetic to Al Qaeda," said Keisler.
Update John Bellinger III, a former legal adviser to Secretary of State Condoleeza Rice, is also defending the DoJ lawyers who formerly worked on behalf of detainees. “I think it’s unfortunate that these individuals are being criticized for their past representation, it reflects the politicization and the polarization of terrorism issues," Bellinger said. "Neither Republicans nor Democrats should be attacking officials in each other’s administration’s based solely on the clients they have represented in the past.”


125 Responses to “Liz Cheney Falsely Claims Her ‘Al Qaeda 7’ Smear Ad ‘Doesn’t Question Anybody’s Loyalty’”

  1. EnnuiDivine (a registered trademark of Molten Boron. Nobody Does It Like Molten Boron!) says:

    I couldn’t give less of a shit what Liz Cheney (or her war criminal father) has to say about homeland security, law, or ethics.

    If they want to talk about how they support marriage equality so they can see Mary get married, I’ll listen.

    Anything else, they have zero credibility. They are a stain on our national character and should be relegated to the ash heap of history.


  2. TheVeritableBuddhist says:

    Apparently they know our resident troll.
    How does it feel to know criminals?


  3. F**k the Army(brought to you by the US Army) says:

    ” I have here, in my hand, a list of known subversives…”
    I’ve seen THIS movie before.


  4. PatrioticLiberalChristian says:

    “Al Qaeda 7″ ? Aren’t there more members of PNAC than seven?


  5. dixie blood (sponsored by The Party Stop Stores) says:

    Dear Daughter of Dickhead,

    STFU. DD. May you rot in hell lying on top of Dickhead’s body.


  6. Bullsmith says:

    Well there’s no need to question Liz Cheney’s loyalty. She clearly places the wellfare of her country far far below gaining political advantage. The Constitution is the core enemy with her, chip off the old block that she is.


  7. Dave N, sponsored by Dewey, Cheatem, and Howe says:

    “While it’s legitimate for the public to inquire about the past work of DOJ political appointees, we need to recognize that our judicial system cannot function without pro bono counsel, and it doesn’t make a lawyer less patriotic just because he or she has represented a criminal or terrorist suspect.”

    Correct. They’re lawyers. They’re doing their jobs. Sometimes you have to represent the bad guy, since The Constitution guarantees everyone accused of committing a crime in this country the right to a fair trial.


  8. bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:

    Liz Cheney should just lay off political commentary and see if she can get her day job back. A job which she got because her daddy lined up a desk job for her in the State Department. A job for which she wasn’t qualified. After Bush went back to Texas and Obama took the oval office Liz Cheney and her father started popping up on Sunday morning (usually on Fox…to hide behind those who wouldn’t dare question the Cheney’s. Month after month of the same old empty lines of attack: “Obama insults our nation and the C.I.A. by questioning earlier policies involving torture and Guantanamo Bay.” While the entire civilized world feels differently that the right, as well as a majority of the American people who handed the Republican party it’s ass electorally in the last election, these bitter neo-cons can’t accept the reality that their policies have failed.


  9. MCMetal says:

    Liz Cheney is about as relevant as a bread crumb at an all-you-can-eat buffet ………..


  10. mike from Arlington says:

    KAS = Keep America Scared

    Just like that RNC power point slide.

    It’s all about milking the poor scared donors.

    A bunch of money hungry power grabbing jerks.


  11. Pilotshark Sponsored by Beoing says:

    its the dicklizzz cheney talking out one of her cracks again.

    so liz you ever though of going on with a real Journalist like maybe Maddow?

    someone who will not let you coward away behined some wall of BS.


  12. J. Fred Smug says:

    Bush / Cheney / Rove = All Fear, All Smear, ALL THE TIME


  13. TerrytheTurtle, brought to you by Exlax says:

    Liz Cheney would prefer a pre-1215 justice system.


  14. zxbe says:

    Yep. She’s a Cheney all right. Unfortunately.


  15. bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:

    Pilotshark Sponsored by Beoing says:
    its the dicklizzz cheney talking out one of her cracks again.

    so liz you ever though of going on with a real Journalist like maybe Maddow?

    someone who will not let you coward away behined some wall of BS.

    There should be a new rule in the MSM. If a pundit or a politician (regardless of what letter is next to their name) is going to act like a jack-ass in the political media and force them to go on the Daily Show. Consider it equality in the political media. :D


  16. Xisithrus says:

    When is Liz going to figger out that she isnt credible in many peoples books.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Papal aide, Vatican men’s choir in gay prostitution ring.


  17. MapleStreet says:

    So why does Liz not trust the American Justice System ?

    Why does she want to rig the trial so there is no defense ?

    And the coy, “I’m not implying that….” For example: Well I know for a fact that someone likes goats but I won’t say who it is. Yeah, right. I’m sure no jury could put the pieces together to convict for libel / slander.


  18. linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:

    *facepalm*
    What does she want? Cowboy-style justice where you “shoot first, ask questions later”? We are a country bound by the rule of law which means that we believe in “innocent until proven guilty”..


  19. MCMetal says:

    The daughter of the most lawless , dishonest , secretive and despicable VP in US history is questioning the loyalty and values of Justice Department lawyers ?

    Are you fu(king kidding me ? Gimme’ a break …….


  20. 5th Estate says:

    EnnuiDivine (a registered trademark of Molten Boron. Nobody Does It Like Molten Boron!) says: Anything else, they have zero credibility.

    Sadly, you are wrong, Ennui.

    Liz Cheney earns a good living from saying such things, and others do the same. They are all paid by corporations who have a stake in undermining Democratic and democratic government, and there are enough ignorant and similarly twisted people who do actually find them credible and who collectively can affect elections and plocies.


  21. Mitchell S. says:

    And she lies so easily.


  22. P.D. says:

    Liz and her father Darth Cheney have no credibility anymore, and I think Liz is starting to realize that. She goes on talk shows and lies through her teeth and gets busted for it every time. I think this is more of her trying to protect dear old Dad then to actually trying to prove any inane argument. Is she scared perhaps with all the talk questioning of all of Bush and Cheney’s aids in Europe?


  23. Badmoodman says:

    Liz Cheney Falsely Claims Her ‘Al Qaeda 7’ Smear Ad ‘Doesn’t Question Anybody’s Loyalty’

    – - Is there another reason for the ad?


  24. linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:

    Dude,Liz Cheney’s nose just grew another inch today!!


  25. hellinabucket says:

    She has learned the way of the Sith lord well. The Dick is proud.


  26. bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:

    Mitchell S. says:
    And she lies so easily.

    Another thing that is embedded in Cheney families genetic code besides the trademark evil sneer.


  27. linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:

    I think she’ll poke someone’s eyes out at the rate her nose keeps growing…


  28. bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:

    linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:
    I think she’ll poke someone’s eyes out at the rate her nose keeps growing…

    I hope Fox films it.


  29. pags2 says:

    The ad is merely one of many that will come out between now and November trying say the Dems are soft on terrorism. This is going to be an election theme. Dems need to show that Obama has captured and killed more terrorists than the Bush administration, in the US, Afghanistan and Pakistan. The MSM should challenge these claims when any Republican asserts the contrary. The content of the ad is just a fund raising device for money which is going to be steered to Republicans up for reelection.


  30. lm945 says:

    Liz Cheney actively supports and defends a confessed war criminal.

    I think we all know where her loyalties lie.


  31. Bob says:

    One thing this neo-McCarthyism does is spotlight those who have so little faith or understanding in the Constitution.


  32. Dave N, sponsored by Dewey, Cheatem, and Howe says:

    pags2 says:

    The MSM should challenge these claims when any Republican asserts the contrary.

    But we know they won’t.


  33. dixie blood (sponsored by The Party Stop Stores) says:

    Imprecatory prayers are appropriate for Dickhead and his hateful, stupid daughter.


  34. linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:

    bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:

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    linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:
    I think she’ll poke someone’s eyes out at the rate her nose keeps growing…

    I hope Fox films it.

    Ooh ooh, James O’Keefe should be the cameraman!!


  35. J. Fred Smug says:

    I have to believe that the Evil Concubine of Dick / Mother of Liz, Lynne Cheney, is behind a lot of this. Years ago, she wrote clearly lesbian fiction (to be clear: not that’s there anything wrong with that) yet continues to deny any homosexual plot. She is the definition of Whack Job.


  36. EnnuiDivine (a registered trademark of Molten Boron. Nobody Does It Like Molten Boron!) says:

    5th Estate says:

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    EnnuiDivine (a registered trademark of Molten Boron. Nobody Does It Like Molten Boron!) says: Anything else, they have zero credibility.

    Sadly, you are wrong, Ennui.

    Liz Cheney earns a good living from saying such things, and others do the same. They are all paid by corporations who have a stake in undermining Democratic and democratic government, and there are enough ignorant and similarly twisted people who do actually find them credible and who collectively can affect elections and plocies.

    I wouldn’t call that credibility per se, just a great deal of gullibility on the part of the schmucks who agree with her.


  37. bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:

    linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:
    Ooh ooh, James O’Keefe should be the cameraman!!

    Is he supposed to wear the pimp suit while and the pimp hat filming this?


  38. linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:

    Liz honey, we already had “cowboy-style” justice a few years ago, when Bush was in charge, and it only increased the amount of terrorist activity here in the U.S. The terrorists used our “brutality” as a recruiting tool…


  39. P.D. says:

    Ever since Dick has been released from the hospital, he has been silent. I, like many other Americans, asked myself ‘What if my loved one had FIVE heart attacks? Would they still be alive?’ Dick gets the best medical care OUR money can buy for him. We minions? We would have been long gone.


  40. Pilotshark Sponsored by Beoing says:

    So I wonder if liz was dicks favor daughter to molest, and if she enjoyed it enough to now be helping her criminal father?

    not say that dick or lynn did not also like f-ing with Mary either.


  41. EnnuiDivine (a registered trademark of Molten Boron. Nobody Does It Like Molten Boron!) says:

    O/T

    Dawn Johnsen nomination approved by Senate Judiciary

    She’ll provide the much needed disinfectant to a position disgraced by Jay Bybee and Stephen Bradbury.

    You know, assuming the damn GOP allows an up-or-down vote this time


  42. linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:

    bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:

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    linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:
    Ooh ooh, James O’Keefe should be the cameraman!!

    Is he supposed to wear the pimp suit while and the pimp hat filming this?

    Sure..Nothing says “idiot” like wearing a flashy outfit and an ugly hat!


  43. lokidog-brought to you by Zig Zag® rolling papers says:

    Think of the hit job these US Constitution hating scumbags would have done on that ‘traitor’ John Adams for defending the British.

    Right, Liz?


  44. linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:

    lokidog-brought to you by Zig Zag® rolling papers says:

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    Think of the hit job these US Constitution hating scumbags would have done on that ‘traitor’ John Adams for defending the British.

    Right, Liz?

    Sadly, I think they would have hung him..


  45. P.D. says:

    We have ourselves a VDT.


  46. P.D. says:

    And he is a quick SOB.


  47. lux (brought to you by The Truth (c)) says:

    OT

    everyone.. I was just on the phone with Annabel Park.. founder of the Coffee Party!

    sent her my email… gonna see about whether I can be useful blogging with them.. or how they can use my particular set of..’talents’.. if you can call them that =)

    I know it’s not like I was talking to someone famous.. but to me it’s just as exciting.. she’s been on CNN and I think she’s really going places – the movement has really taken off – over 80,000 members in less than a week..


  48. linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:

    P.D. says:

    ——————————————————————————–

    We have ourselves a VDT.

    Ooh ooh where? I wanna go and rip ‘em to shreds!!


  49. Fritz (God Told Me To Hate Conservatives) says:

    Is al qaeda 7 lurking? Come on out, coward.


  50. gummitch -- this space for rent says:

    CHENEY: Well, what the ad does — and actually it doesn’t question anybody’s loyalty.

    Yeah, that big header that asks “Who Are the Al Qaeda 7?” doesn’t imply anything at all…


  51. dbadass says:

    Imagine the mind of someone that dicks around online as a vote down baby… These freaks intrigue me… Cyber pussy is a whole new phenom…


  52. Pilotshark Sponsored by Beoing says:

    lux (brought to you by The Truth (c)) says:
    over 80,000 members in less than a week.

    Well thats kwel>>>> hell in one week they beat the tea party’s biggest turn out. and its only a week.


  53. SWBob says:

    Liz, how about focusing on the names, home addresses and phone numbers of the Wall Street bankers who took our tax payer money for bonuses which they didn’t deserve. Ops, they are your pa’s friends? Sorry. . . !


  54. Pilotshark Sponsored by Beoing says:

    lux (brought to you by The Truth (c)) says:
    OT

    everyone.. I was just on the phone with Annabel Park.. founder of the Coffee Party!

    and oh you have done well for them already as i did not know there was a Coffee party

    any more info?


  55. bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:

    Lefty Liberal says:
    bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:

    linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:
    Ooh ooh, James O’Keefe should be the cameraman!!

    Is he supposed to wear the pimp suit while and the pimp hat filming this?

    wouldn’t work any other way…

    True. And Beck should dress up in what appears to be a Soviet uniform (like he did on the cover of one of his his books.

    linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:
    bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:
    ——————————————————————————–
    linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:
    Ooh ooh, James O’Keefe should be the cameraman!!

    Is he supposed to wear the pimp suit while and the pimp hat filming this?

    Sure..Nothing says “idiot” like wearing a flashy outfit and an ugly hat!

    Oddly enough, I bet a pimp would fit in just fine over at Fox.


  56. linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:

    Liz, can you and your dad please crawl back to your bunkers and leave the rest of us alone?


  57. P.D. says:

    Don’t these trolls ahve any balls?


  58. linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:

    And please, Lizzie dear, stfu..You have no credibility whatsoever!


  59. Fritz (God Told Me To Hate Conservatives) says:

    bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:

    Oddly enough, I bet a pimp would fit in just fine over at Fox.

    They don’t dress the part so much, but EVERYONE at Fux is a pimp.


  60. Wiz says:

    Republicans think that they can behave in such an undemocratic manner because they think they are best able to protect democracy, ironic isn’t it? You see it in every aspect of their dishonesty and hypocrisy. They claim to love America, but can’t stand the idea of letting democracy work.


  61. lux (brought to you by The Truth (c)) says:

    Pilotshark.. and I’m getting in with the Coffee Party hopefully at the ground level – I’m just happy because I’ve been looking for a venue that I can have some type of measurable political effect… and now I might have it!


  62. Fritz (God Told Me To Hate Conservatives) says:

    P.D. says:

    Don’t these trolls ahve any balls?

    No. They are cowards.


  63. P.D. says:

    LOL! I meant HAVE, not ahve. My bad. My typing skills suck. Add the fact the letters on my key board are worn away.


  64. LizCoro says:

    Why does Cheney Family hate our Constitution?

    A criminal defendant’s right to an attorney is found in the Sixth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, which requires the “assistance of counsel” for the accused “in all criminal prosecutions.” This means that a defendant has a constitutional right to be represented by an attorney during trial.

    [BTW Liz, our gov't. employs 10,000 Ass't U.S. Attorneys]


  65. linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:

    You and your dear daddy lost whatever credibility that you guys had when daddy dearest went around promoting water-boarding..


  66. Fritz (God Told Me To Hate Conservatives) says:

    Wiz says:

    They claim to love America, but can’t stand the idea of letting democracy work.

    That’s because they DON’T love America, they HATE America and Americans.


  67. linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:

    And clamoring for more “terrorist” blood in Iraq..


  68. TerrytheTurtle, brought to you by Exlax says:

    “Cyber pussy is a whole new phenom…” – no it’s not, I have a friend who… sometimes.. goes to those sites…


  69. lux (brought to you by The Truth (c)) says:

  70. bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:

    Fritz (God Told Me To Hate Conservatives) says:
    bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:
    Oddly enough, I bet a pimp would fit in just fine over at Fox.

    They don’t dress the part so much, but EVERYONE at Fux is a pimp.

    They’re also the whores (whore as in a venal/unscrupulous person, not the sexual kind).


  71. Pilotshark Sponsored by Beoing says:

    P.D. says:
    Don’t these trolls ahve any balls?

    Smiles>> well they do… but they do not belong to them.

    if they did have any they have to give them back to the person they was licking on.

    most of the troll think you can buy 40lbs of them at a blue light special at a K-mart.


  72. Fritz (God Told Me To Hate Conservatives) says:

    TerrytheTurtle, brought to you by Exlax says:

    “Cyber pussy is a whole new phenom…” – no it’s not, I have a friend who… sometimes.. goes to those sites…

    Heh. A “friend”, eh?



  73. Pilotshark Sponsored by Beoing says:

    Lux @70

    Thanks I will check them out maybe we could get it to 80k plus one smiles.


  74. pags2 says:

    Wiz says:
    Republicans think that they can behave in such an undemocratic manner…

    They think the White House, Supreme Court and Congress are wholly owned subsidiaries of the Republican party.


  75. Fritz (God Told Me To Hate Conservatives) says:

    Lefty Liberal says:

    Not everyone, they have to have whores too.

    True. Failin’ Palin (R-Quitter) for one*.

    *Whore as in a venal/unscrupulous person, not the sexual kind.


  76. Chicano2nd says:

    These people are on the verge of treason. They embolden our enemies by making them think the Administration is weak in the face of internal criticisms by nutcases without repercussion.

    They need to be arrested, found guilty without assistance of counsel and executed by firing squad. If the squad accidently goes above the shoulder with Lizzy, it might verify she is an airhead without the need for an autopsy.


  77. LizCoro says:

    Interesting to see Debra Burlingame’s name linked w/Cheney . .

    Remember how Cindy Sheehan was trashed by republicans?

    Cinday Sheehan was cashing in on her son’s death and Burlingame is doing, what?

    Hypocracy at its finest . .


  78. linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:

    “I pledge allegiance to flag of the Corporate states of America, and to our oligarchy, from which it stands,
    One corporation, under the dollar, with destruction and profits for all”!


  79. Pilotshark Sponsored by Beoing says:

    lux (brought to you by The Truth (c)) says: @62

    Thats way kwel.


  80. linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:

    You can’t possibly believe that most of the female (and even male) news readers got their jobs based on talent do you?

    It wouldn’t surprise me to find out most got their jobs on their backs.

    Especially since they lack brains or intellect..


  81. Zimzone says:

    Of the 4 Cheneys, I prefer the Lesbian in the bunch.

    She’s better looking, keeps her mouth shut & isn’t trying to kill or torture anyone.


  82. bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:

    Lefty Liberal says:
    You can’t possibly believe that most of the female (and even male) news readers got their jobs based on talent do you?

    It wouldn’t surprise me to find out most got their jobs on their backs.

    It’s possible. I just don’t need to imagine the horrible things that these people did to get where they are now. We know some major facts about where these people came from and how they rose through the right-wing media ranks to end up working for Rupert Murdoch and Saudi Arabia.


  83. linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:

    In today’s economy, you have to take best advantage of your “ASSets”

    Lol.


  84. P.D. says:

    Zim@85, LOL! Agreed. The other Cheney girl keeps out of sight. She’s the smart one, I guess. Liz will always be known as the scum-bag who defends torture. Not a nice legacy,


  85. linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:

    Isn’t that how Palin got the job at Faux Snooze? By showing her boobies to Murdoch and Ailes?


  86. Pilotshark Sponsored by Beoing says:

    WOW>>> 88 post and not a pond scum sucking cowardly troll any where>>>>>>>>>>yet>>>>>>>.


  87. Chicano2nd says:

    lux (brought to you by The Truth (c)) says:

    oh… Pilotshark

    Coffee Party Website

    Coffee Party on Facebook

    Coffee Party on Twitter

    Thank you, thank you, thank you. It makes sense. I’v always believed coffee is the elixir of life (and I acknowledge my addiction) but an answer to the T-Baggers too!

    This is great!


  88. P.D. says:

    Pilot@92, Oh, he is lurking. We had a few Vd’s a while ago. I find it odd. Trolls LOVE tortue, I expected them to be here en masse.


  89. bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:

    Lefty Liberal says:
    That is what is wrong with corporate amerikkka, people get ahead, not by being good, but by being good in bed (or at least being willing to go to bed).

    The higher and higher up one gets on the so-called “corporate ladder), the more one has to compromise their own integrity to remain there. Then once your integrity is dead and eventally (as certain people in the MSM and the most if not all of the GOP have proven) your morals start dying too.


  90. linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:

    Yeah, it must have either been al-qaeda 7 or Dr Demented..


  91. linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:

    Dr Demented just got his butt whipped in another thread…


  92. Pilotshark Sponsored by Beoing says:

    P.D. says:
    Pilot@92, Oh, he is lurking. We had a few Vd’s a while ago. I find it odd. Trolls LOVE tortue, I expected them to be here en masse.

    Yes i did as well,, thats why i mention the PSSCT (Pond Scum Sucking Cowardly Trolls).

    guess liz dont hold as high a place as the cuda from waszilla


  93. P.D. says:

    Lefty@97, Me too. There arguments are so inane and they are getting boring. We had a troll the other day posting the same thing over and over again. The worst are the ones who claim they have a great link, and it’s a friggin righite site. Losers.


  94. linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:

    So the poor VDT is busy nursing a bruised ego and is probably still pretty testy..


  95. Mathazar says:

    Why just the lawyers ?

    What about the doctors that treat them, and the guards that give them food and water. And what about the Red cross, who does inspections regarding humane treatment ?

    And that’s assuming that if they’re accused of something, they
    must surely be guilty, right ?


  96. linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:

    @103 Republicans can’t fathom that there are other people in and out of the DOJ who treat the “terrorists” humanely!


  97. P.D. says:

    Troll Free! Is this a first?


  98. bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:

    Lefty Liberal says:
    bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:

    Lefty Liberal says:
    That is what is wrong with corporate amerikkka, people get ahead, not by being good, but by being good in bed (or at least being willing to go to bed).

    The higher and higher up one gets on the so-called “corporate ladder), the more one has to compromise their own integrity to remain there. Then once your integrity is dead and eventally (as certain people in the MSM and the most if not all of the GOP have proven) your morals start dying too.

    Which is why I have my own company. I just got tired of putting up with the incompetents getting raises, promotions, and bonuses, yet I was the one that had to keep cleaning up their messes.

    That must be nice to be your own boss. Really cuts down on the BS.

    Even though I’m not my own boss (at least at work)…I still enjoy my job even if all I do all day is:
    1) Fix other people’s f**k ups
    2) Set up computers, monitors and the network to that system (accounts with passwords and all the right programs)
    3) Do the reverse of #2 and take them off the network if somebody leaves or is fired
    4) Answer other’ people’s dumb questions via phone
    5) Take notes in meetings
    6) Use lap-top when things are not busy to visit forums and surf Youtube to kill boredom


  99. Mathazar says:

    Gee, Lizzy missed chance, with Obama being from Chicago, she could have called them… the Chicago Seven.


  100. TerrytheTurtle, brought to you by Exlax says:

    Lefty, I feel for ya. I have this pal, sailed solo around the world, with a disability. Not a problem, safe as could be. Publicity? Nothing or nearly nothing. Then about a month later, this fully able bodied clown had to be pulled out of the Gulf trying to complete his RTW by sailing in non-ideal conditions. Publicity? All over the news…..everyone knows this RTW sailor and his ‘plucky story’.


  101. bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:

    Lefty Liberal says:
    I’m in the IT industry too. The day I decided to start my own company was the day I was at a division wide meeting and they were giving out merit awards.

    One was given to my counterpart in south Florida for a project that was so badly screwed up that the VP was on the phone with the customer once a week for 3 months explaining why the screw up wasn’t as bad as they thought it was.

    At the same time the VP was dealing with that, my project which was 3 times the size in terms of revenue, had one issue that went up to the level of my boss (and I had it resolved before my boss heard of the problem).

    Their justification was that my counterpart pulled the project out of the fire and they went live on the project (just barely and with significant problems). I kept asking why the project was in the fire to begin with, but they refused to acknowledge the fact that my counterpart was a total screw up.

    My counterpart got a monetary merit award, and I got the privilege of applauding from the audience.

    Wow. What a bunch of a**holes. Amazing the f**k ups with shitty attitudes and corrupt morals (like in politics and in business) always get more praise than those who actually are good at their job and take pride in it.

    BTW, I wish you and your business the best of luck in the future. :D


  102. TerrytheTurtle, brought to you by Exlax says:

    Buy a six-pack, kick back and watch Office Space… always helps me.


  103. F**k the Army(brought to you by the US Army) says:

    Lizzie Cheney had an axe
    Gave her mother 40 wacks…

    Liz dreams of resurrecting HUAC.


  104. F**k the Army(brought to you by the US Army) says:

    correction:

    I meant to say that Lizzie WET DREAMS of resurrecting HUAC.
    Sorry, my mistake.


  105. bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:

    Lefty Liberal says:

    bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:

    BTW, I wish you and your business the best of luck in the future. :D

    Thanks, and if you ever are in need of a really good IT Project Manager, or know someone who is, let me know! ;)

    Thank you for the offer. :) And I’ll ask around for you…if they’re interested, I’ll tell them to sign up to TP and look for your SN.

    I’m pretty good where I am. The only thing missing is a health-insurance company that will both accept me because of my epilepsy and actually cover. I’ve talked to fellow WashTech union members and I’m both worried and tempted to take UShealth (my current plan) or one of my past plans like Blue Cross to court to settle things. I’m worried because I don’t know how much that would cost, how long it would take or even if anything positive would come out of it.

    We need a public option now!


  106. Buckie Boy says:

    Why is her father not in prison for WAR CRIMES?


  107. Eugene Debs sponsered by the Church of the presumptious assumption says:

    witty

    FOAD troll


  108. What the GOP REALLY means ... says:

    “Donate Now”

    OK! I’ll give you all my money!


  109. What the GOP REALLY means ... says:

    wittynamehere says:

    See you in November!

    In other words, you liberals should just fear us. We don’t have anything to offer in terms of quality governance, we just want you to fear us. Fear the November, nevermore.


  110. bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:

    Lefty Liberal says:
    Well I have two things to think about:
    1) I can’t afford the shit-loads of legal fees that would come my way while fighting for health insurance that will both cover me and my family for an affordable price.
    2) My labor union isn’t really small (they have an office building in Seattle) but sometimes it seems that they are really too tied in the political rhetoric that they are to helping the people. They’re inept basically. I might check-out my local worker union center here in Renton, I’ve heard some good news from them when it comes to legal battles.

    And I would love to have that kind of health-care coverage rather than relying on just using the “family check-ups and MRI’s while worrying about something being terribly wrong with either me or my wife” plan. While praying that those things don’t cost a shit load of money because UShealth covers pretty much jack shit except UShealth’s financial interests. But I’m kinda f***ed as long as the Republican’s still insist on being such dicks and the Democrats decide to drop to their knees in submission of those dicks.


  111. noseeum, et al... says:

    wittynamehere says:
    “See you in November!”

    Is this a goodbye?


  112. noseeum, et al... says:

    Any particular bridge to look under?


  113. What the GOP REALLY means ... says:

    Fear us, I said.


  114. Zooey, Mother Superior, Church of Perpetual Whoopie says:

    Liz Cheney is a traitorous b!tch, and just the sight of her makes me want to throw something — same as her father.

    Disgusting people.


  115. DallasNE says:

    Liz Cheney is engaged in a witch hunt, plain and simple. Dealing with “associations” is exactly what Joseph McCarthy used to smear innocent people. This is sick.


  116. SoapBox says:

    116 witty PARROT name here says:
    See you in November!

    Oh my Polly…will you never learn?

    What’s that?

    SQUAWK…SQUAWK…SQUAWK

    Hungry? I have this for you,

    MISSION ACCOMPLISHED and WMDs!


  117. SoapBox says:

    DallasNE…

    That’s spot on.

    Liz Cheeeeeney = Joe McCarthy

    And that should be enough to terrify every decent American.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_mccarthy

    This is a must read for every Progressive. This CANNOT happen again in America. If LyingLizzie and her terrorists have their way…well, read.


  118. Marie says:

    Hey, everyone
    Catch the rerun of Rachel Maddow tonight — she just did five minutes on this at the end of her show — hilarious!!


  119. womanthereforeliberal says:

    Marie-I saw Rachel’s bit, too! It was great!


  120. linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:

    Jeez, I’m gone for a few hours and not a trace of the VDTs? I wonder where they all went.


  121. Winski says:

    She belongs in Amarillo with their new militia movement down there.. she’d fit right in and daddy could just send money and chicken salad sandwiches along with his personal army at blackwawa…

    Amazingly lame for an American (we assume) …


  122. Robt says:

    As a veteran (unlike your father) Liz, I believe this accusation and constant opposition of a President during war time. You are not hardly loyal let alone patriotic.

    So how does it feel to have your patriotism questioned?

    So Liz prove you love America?

    Certainly you haven’t had any solid ground to stand in your accusations of the President. The image Liz Cheney suggests of herself is that somehow she earned through qualifications her position in the Bush Adm she had was not nepotism because of her 5 deferment father.


  123. buckrogers1965 says:

    “Of course the people don’t want war. But after all, it’s the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it’s always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it’s a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger.”

    – Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials


  124. doktorgizemli says:

    Of course, when conservatives talk about rights, they mean “white-guy rights.”

    Republicans and their ilk love to prattle on about rights. But it’s only the rights that are important to white males–mostly the right to badmouth people and the “right” to brandish guns.

    In winger utopia, white-guy aşk şiirleri rights will be inviolable. But there will be no privacy, especially in sexual matters. Gays will be çiçek constantly watched; women will be forced to have babies; and people will be allowed to criticize only Democrat Presidents.



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