Health Insurance Lobby Leaves The Door Open To Supporting A GOP Repeal Of Health Reform
Health Insurance Lobby Leaves The Door Open To Supporting A GOP Repeal Of Health Reform
America’s Health Insurance Plans (AHIP), the lobbying juggernaut for the health insurance industry, hosted its annual conference at the Ritz Carlton this week. As a vote on health legislation nears, the industry announced yesterday that it is funding a new round of national ads aimed at killing reform. The insurance industry has attacked every version of health reform thus far, from the Senate Finance bill, to the bill that passed the House already, to measures proposed by the White House. On a call with investors, Goldman Sachs detailed how health insurers would benefit the most from not passing any health reform all.
Even if reform passes, political attack groups funded by big business, like the Club for Growth, and Republicans are promising to repeal health legislation, rescinding coverage for over 30 million Americans and perpetuating widespread industry abuses. In addition to leaders like Newt Gingrich (who is funded by AHIP and other insurers), National Republican Senatorial Committee chairman Sen. John Cornyn (R-TX) and dozens of GOP House and Senate leaders have pledged to repeal health reform if they are successful in the midterm elections.
ThinkProgress caught up with Robert Zirkelbach, the spokesman for AHIP, after a press briefing at the conference to ask about the GOP effort to repeal health reform. Zirkelbach carefully dodged the question directly, but left the door open to possibly supporting such an effort in the future:
TP: Let’s say the current reform bills you’ve registered disapproval with, let’s say they pass in their current form. Would you support a Republican effort, the Republican campaign promise to repeal some or all of the bill?
ZIRKELBACH: I’m not going to speculate about health reform legislation, what’s going to happen after, when we haven’t seen the current bill. I think we’re a ways a way [crosstalk] I’m not going to begin to speculate about whats going to happen.
Watch it:
Yesterday at the AHIP conference, Steve ErkenBrack, a health insurance executive from Colorado, mused about what it would take for political leaders to stop the “demonization” of insurers. He then suggested that insurance company executives had to simply “wait until November [elections] get passed,” presumably when the GOP either retakes Congress or a large number of seats. Listen here:
As ThinkProgress has documented, AHIP has waged a two-faced campaign to kill reform. Understanding that health insurers are unpopular, AHIP has tried to defray potential criticism by telling the administration and the public that “this time” the industry will fully support health reform. However, insurers have quietly been working behind closed doors to kill health reform, secretly funding $20 million plus in attack ads, orchestrating a far right effort to declare reform unconstitutional, and directing employees to attend rowdy anti-health reform protests.
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Looks like the health insurance industry will be throwing gzillions of premiums paid to support Republicans in November instead of providing health care with the money.
March 10th, 2010 at 4:15 pmAren’t they just awesome?
March 10th, 2010 at 4:19 pmOk so now I know where my mom and dad’s premium increases are going…
March 10th, 2010 at 4:20 pmWhat a bunch of scum bastards, this industry is…
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I guess this means that they realize that hcr is going to pass and are putting up their last stand..I heard Hannity on talk radio today just going completely nutso and saying that the Democrats have “ignored the will of the American people” and all sorts of distortions about the bill being debated right now.
March 10th, 2010 at 4:24 pmThe health insurance cartel only wants to insure the healthiest people. The rest of us can just suck it. They need to STOP calling it health reform and begin calling it health insurance reform.
P.S. What if everyone just said fcukit and stopped sending them their money for a while?
March 10th, 2010 at 4:25 pmThe Country is in debt up to its elbows
March 10th, 2010 at 4:25 pm—
So let’s raise some taxes and pay some bills.
Kenneth says:
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The Country is at near 10% unemployment. The Country is in debt up to its elbows and the President is out there still selling Obamacare when the Country doesn’t want it. What’s up with that?
*facepalm* Oh sweet Jeebus..ObamaCare? WTF are you smoking?
March 10th, 2010 at 4:25 pmDbadass @9
March 10th, 2010 at 4:27 pmCareful, righties don’t like hearing the words “tax increase”!
I know they are cheap pricks…
March 10th, 2010 at 4:28 pmdbadass says:
March 10th, 2010 at 4:29 pmThe Country is in debt up to its elbows
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So let’s raise some taxes and pay some bills.
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Tea-bagger trolls: “NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! That would be socialism…and fascism…and communism…and a bunch of other isms that would attack capitalism when Obama re-distributes the wealth. Plus we just hate paying for the shit we use.”
Yo kennth i could also send you some web sites on being deprogrammed for a cult. I think you and Patrick5 can compete for a leadership roll in deprogramming.
March 10th, 2010 at 4:29 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
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Have we reached that level, as a nation, where it’s become a virtual guarantee — a fundamental truth — that virtually anything stated, any position taken, by both the corporate world and the GOP (include, for the moment, teabaggers and neocons under that umbrella) is faux, is anti we the people? Where everything they say is either a full out lie, or lie-based?
If so, whereto from here for those of us who still believe the country has a shot at retaining/regaining the shred of its heritage which is both altruistic and honorable? Or, must we simply prepare and agree to succumb to the protofacists — those who would turn our entire destiny over to the interests of corporate greed and political lust for power?
Questions, questions, questions.
March 10th, 2010 at 4:31 pmKenneth
The plain fact is you are just too stupid and brainwashed to be taken seriously. As you spew out the talking points Rush TOLD you to believe and regurgitate doesnt it make you sad to think how pathetic you are? You are like a chatty Kathy doll. Programmed by Rush, too stupid to think for yourself. Regurgitating old, boring BS, we have heard and dismissed before along with stupidity too mind numbing to even deal with. Dont you think it is time you stop humiliating yourself and just STFU?
March 10th, 2010 at 4:32 pm@15
March 10th, 2010 at 4:32 pm*facepalm*
Kenneth says:
WE the People! NOT, I the President!
We the people elected Obama. He is going to be president for the next 3 years so get used to it. Obama is still personally popular.
Further, do not presume that the majority of people are against health care reform or that you speak them. That is a Republican/Fox talking point from their own selected polls. There are enough polls to indicate that people support the reforms. This is borne out by the number of Senators and Representatives who have voted in favor of reform.
March 10th, 2010 at 4:32 pmKenneth
Are YOU the brainwashed, retarded pile of pigshit? Wait…of COURSE you are
March 10th, 2010 at 4:33 pmNo I am the full head of haired responsible adult
March 10th, 2010 at 4:33 pmKenneth says:
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dbadass says:
The Country is in debt up to its elbows
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So let’s raise some taxes and pay some bills.
Are you The Bald Communist?
Are you the stupid teabagger?
March 10th, 2010 at 4:35 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
dbadass says:
The Country is in debt up to its elbows
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So let’s raise some taxes and pay some bills.
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And let’s cut the warmongering budget by fifty percent per annum and pay a lot MORE bills!
March 10th, 2010 at 4:36 pmThe republican/conservative solution to dealing with the debt:
CUT SOCIAL PROGRAMS!!
March 10th, 2010 at 4:36 pmOld, sick, infirm, poor, who cares about them..
Sure.
They’re going to repeal HCR right after they abolish Social Security and Medicare. Right after the next GOP/Teabag President is inaugurated.
And the GOP will ride to victory on old Karl Rove/George W. Bush talking points, crimes, deficits, no-bid contracts, etc. THAT’S when the GOP/Teabaggers will seat their next President.
Right after the Twelfth of Never.
March 10th, 2010 at 4:38 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
But increase the military/defense budget and start more wars to increase revenue!!
March 10th, 2010 at 4:38 pmWell at least Kenneth’s trying to use other terms than commie, look how close he got to calling someone Lenin.
Since we’re in tea-bagger fantasy land who gets to play Rasputin?
March 10th, 2010 at 4:39 pmThe insurance industry is airing their anti-reform commercials like crazy. Last night I had a phone call soliciting my help to fight Government run health insurance. I told the lady I already have government run insurance since I receive VA insurance (she didn’t like that).
I also told her that since I’m retired, I aslo enjoy another government program…social security.
She got very quiet, so I told her to find someone else to bother and hung up.
I live in Central Texas…home of a lot of wing nuts.
March 10th, 2010 at 4:39 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
Kenneth
You are a teabag TRAITOR. A brainwashed MORON. A pigignorant pile of dogshit. That on your best day
March 10th, 2010 at 4:41 pmKenneth says:
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Are you the stupid teabagger?
NO! Just a Patriotic American who knows how the
Founding Fathers designed this Country. Read your History and get de-programmed
You mean the ones who wrote the Constitution with the idea of “liberty and justice for all” as well as the rule of law, and despising the idea of creating a “landed aristocracy”, those guys?
March 10th, 2010 at 4:41 pmNo legitimate economist thinks the debt can be cleared by spending cuts alone. Why can’t these cheap prick pussy mother f uckers stand up and pay the bills like real men?
March 10th, 2010 at 4:42 pmI’m so old, I remember when conservatives were PROUD to pay their taxes. They proclaimed it loudly.
Now, they’re all tax CHEATS, or tax LIARS.
Bring back the Eisenhower Era 90% top bracket taxes. And then try to call HIM a Nazi, a Commie or a Fascist.
March 10th, 2010 at 4:42 pmKenneth says
Lets keep doing the exact things that caused all the problems. That is just how stupid, pathetic, and brainwashed Kenneth is. Economic theory is religious dogma to Kenneth. It doesnt matter how often something is PROVEN to be disasterous. It fits his delusional fantasies so he is CERTAIN it will work if we just try it again. It is dogma given him by GOD
March 10th, 2010 at 4:43 pmdbadass says:
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No legitimate economist thinks the debt can be cleared by spending cuts alone. Why can’t these cheap prick pussy mother f uckers stand up and pay the bills like real men?
Because they’re really 8-year-olds in adult bodies..
March 10th, 2010 at 4:43 pmWait a Minute…. IF a bill to repeal health care reform actually passes, and ends up on Obama’s desk…
I’m pretty sure he would VETO it. Then it would take a SUPERMAJORITY to pass the bill.
Karma.
March 10th, 2010 at 4:44 pmKenneth says:
“Just a Patriotic American who knows how the
Founding Fathers designed this Country.”
Somehow you sound like a Teapartier…
March 10th, 2010 at 4:45 pmI seriously doubt your supposed constitutional knowledge.
You’re a knee-jerk reactionary who believes what hate radio spews at you.
Oh and sorry Lindsey ( or is it Lyndsey). There are plenty of responsible women who aren’t afraid to pay for the actual functioning of the country. I just prefer to point out that Kenneth is far less of a man than I. It bugs him…
March 10th, 2010 at 4:45 pmThe Republicans would have to have huge majorities to overrule a veto. That is not likely in November. The Dems will lose some seats but not anywhere near what the GOP needs to repeal health care. Even if Republicans control Congress, the Dems have the filibuster and that will stop the Republicans. Then the fun will begin when Republicans complain about the same tactics they are using.
March 10th, 2010 at 4:46 pmA simple suggestion: “So let’s raise some taxes and pay some bills.”
Kenneth’s response: “Are you The Bald Communist?”
One more time… our top marginal rate was 91% during the 50’s. A Republican was in charge, business was booming and unemployment was low. Ike was bald, but he was hardly a communist.
JFK lowered the top marginal rate to about 76% I think. 76% – again, not a communist.
Now, evidently because someone wants to let the top marginal two rates return to where they were in the booming 90’s, about 3% higher than the current 35%, you think they’re a “communist.”
Does that really make sense to you?
March 10th, 2010 at 4:46 pmCall their bluff. I would like to see them campaign on repealing health reform…..lol. I’m sure that will go over about as well as supporting Palin for Prez.
March 10th, 2010 at 4:46 pmThis comment has been voted down. Click to read.
The very idea that Congress or any future President would repeal HCR–or any other ’socialist’ program currently in place here–is a circle jerk. A handjob. A fantasy for Teabaggers.
Once it’s in place, it’s there forever–because it’s a GOOD IDEA. And it’s simply hard to believe as many people are this stupid. I keep seeing them on my tee vee, yes, and that should convince me, but it’s still very hard to believe the crap flying about is taken seriously and not laughed out of town.
March 10th, 2010 at 4:47 pmKenneth see the deprogramming stuff only works on cult trolls like you.
talking about reading history, you should give it a try and use different books then the ones your got home schooled with. cause as you can see they lied to you. along with your parents which should be placed in jail for child abuse.
But if you like we can get you those web sites on cult deprogramming.
March 10th, 2010 at 4:47 pmHell look at stormy he came out of the closet and he did not even start a deprogramming plan. So come to think of it you might want to hurry up and get with a deprogramming plan so you could be a real leader.
#32 cut taxes…Groan. Do you realize that Bushs’ tax cuts are partially responsible for the mess we’re in?
Your illegal war in Iraq is another 800 billion…you don’t here this on Fox do you, you moron.
March 10th, 2010 at 4:49 pmKenneth: “Just a Patriotic American who knows how the
Founding Fathers designed this Country.”
Maybe it’s time for you to review the first paragraph of Article I, Section 8.
March 10th, 2010 at 4:49 pmJust a Patriotic American who knows how the
Founding Fathers designed this Country.”
Im a hundred times more patriotic and real than you.
March 10th, 2010 at 4:51 pmninerfan
Why would he bother. He knows he is too stupid to understand it
March 10th, 2010 at 4:51 pmKenneth says:
Cut some taxes and let the Free Market work!
March 10th, 2010 at 4:40 pm
From this mornings ThinkFast (emphasis mine):
March 10th, 2010 at 4:53 pm
Yo kennth you do realize that a real or true Patriotic American believe in them self and ALL of there fellow country men(women as well). Also try`s to peruse the best for ALL of his country.
March 10th, 2010 at 4:54 pmHow to pay for shit:
March 10th, 2010 at 4:56 pmCut the military budget, raise taxes and set up a stupidity tax on the GOP.
Kenneth says that he’s “Just a Patriotic American who knows how the Founding Fathers designed this Country.”
Did they pre-design it to turn into the pile of shit that Bush left behind? The even larger pile of shit the GOP envisions and fights to achieve even as we speak here? The corporate-owned and operated powerful monstrosity that would have been the envy of last century’s European fascists?
Kenneth, a simple question for you: What are the first three words of the Constitution?
March 10th, 2010 at 4:57 pmThat free market voodoo is gonna kick in any day now.
Laff of the Day. They’ll be riding that one until it drops dead. Or much longer, come to think of it…
March 10th, 2010 at 4:57 pmKenneth says:
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Are you the stupid teabagger?
NO! Just a Patriotic American who knows how the
Founding Fathers designed this Country. Read your History and get de-programmed.
March 10th, 2010 at 4:38 pm
The Founding Fathers who were majority Deist and overwhelmingly liberals ?
Those Founding Fathers , cancervative tool ?
March 10th, 2010 at 5:00 pmpatrick5 says:
Looks like there won’t be anything to repeal.
Joe Donnelly, Indiana Democrat, has switched from “yes” to “no.”
March 10th, 2010 at 5:02 pm–
All because of the abortion language.
Yes, Representative Joe Donnelly.
(Note: he’s not a Senator.)
March 10th, 2010 at 5:02 pmpatrick5 says:
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Looks like there won’t be anything to repeal.
Joe Donnelly, Indiana Democrat, has switched from “yes” to “no.”
March 10th, 2010 at 4:58 pm
And your “proof/link” of or to this is what ?
www . imagopbullshitter . com ?
March 10th, 2010 at 5:02 pmWhy do people insist that the remedies for our economic problems is to deregulate and cut taxes when, in fact, those remedies got us into this trouble? There is no respectable economist that is defending trickle down Reaganomics. Now that Greenspan, the chief architect of trickle down, has jumped ship on Reaganomics, the Republicans have to find someone or anyone who will go along with more Reaganomics. It is time for the GOP to get a new message.
March 10th, 2010 at 5:03 pmAnd? How many are for Obama’s plan, Olby Sucks?
March 10th, 2010 at 5:04 pmThe Three Most Significant Income Tax Reductions in the US
There were three significant periods in US History where income taxes were reduced to forge an economic recovery:
1. The Harding income tax cuts that were initiated in1921 and continued by President Coolidge,
2. The JFK income tax reductions of the mid-1960’s and,
3. The Reagan income tax cuts of the 1980’s.
Harding — The results were impressive: unemployment plummeted from its high in 1921 of 20% to an average of 3.3% for the remainder of the decade.
Reagan – During the four years prior to the Reagan cuts government tax revenue was declining on average annual rate of 2.6% whereas after the cuts the tax revenue increased at an average annual rate of 3.5%.
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/16082
Progressives NEED a little History Lesson!
March 10th, 2010 at 5:06 pmHarding/Coolidge then the GREAT DEPRESSION.
Raygun saw the government income DROP the first two years and the economy SUCKED for the next twelve years.
Kenneth LOVES him some tax cuts because he was TOLD to love them. That they keep destroying the economy means NOTHING to him. He wants MORE because it is religious dogma to him and REALITY be damned. Kenneth is pitifully stupid and brainwashed
March 10th, 2010 at 5:10 pmProgressives NEED a little History Lesson!
March 10th, 2010 at 5:11 pm–
Conservatives need to find better sources if they’re gonna link Canada Free Press (basically the Canadian WND)!
patrick5 says:
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Here dummy.
http://hotlineoncall.nationaljournal.com/archives/2010/03/updating_the_he_1.php
March 10th, 2010 at 5:04 pm
Dipshit
It cites 4 or 5 various sources , along with numerous politicians in a particular column , yet place “Undecided” by various names ; that’s your “proof” ?
You’re a friggin’ retard ………..
March 10th, 2010 at 5:11 pmKenneth says:
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March 10th, 2010 at 5:06 pm
The Ronnie Retard tax cuts of the ’80’s were certainly “significant” , all right ; coupled with Assh0le Ronnie’s (over)spending , they led to the biggest deficit in US history until Chimpy McChucklehead came along ……..
March 10th, 2010 at 5:14 pmPatheticPatrick
Those tax cuts didnt give us any roaring economy you MORONS keep telling us they will. Just FOAD punkass troll
March 10th, 2010 at 5:15 pmPilotshark Sponsored by Boeing,
I’m being home-schooled right now! YOU ought to read my current homework assignment. – “A Patriot’s History of the United State”
YOU might learn something!
March 10th, 2010 at 5:15 pmpatrick5 says:
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The depression was not caused by tax cuts, rolling eyes……
March 10th, 2010 at 5:12 pm
Signed , The Bush Administration ……….
March 10th, 2010 at 5:15 pmpee5 or kennth or any one cult troll wanting to become a leader and well just wants to get back to reality and real life.
Cult Deprogramming and Cult Exit Counseling
Discusses deprogramming of cult members versus exit-counseling.
http://www.freeminds.org/psych/deprog.htm
so here i helped you out this is a good start. do not be afraid ok i understand that the GnoP cult party has told you to be afraid but be a man and stand for once ok on your own.
March 10th, 2010 at 5:17 pmKenneth says:
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Pilotshark Sponsored by Boeing,
I’m being home-schooled right now! YOU ought to read my current homework assignment. – “A Patriot’s History of the United State”
YOU might learn something!
March 10th, 2010 at 5:15 pm
Yeah …….How to write a book using fabricated bullshit and get the most gullible Americans (GOP backers) , to believe it ……
March 10th, 2010 at 5:18 pmDuring the four years prior to the Reagan cuts government tax revenue was declining on average annual rate of 2.6% whereas after the cuts the tax revenue increased at an average annual rate of 3.5%.
Revenues from income taxes continued to decline… they were offset by the TAX INCREASES, most notably the FICA increases (especially on the self-employed) that occurred throughout Reagan’s Presidency and INFLATION.
Oops.
March 10th, 2010 at 5:18 pmMCMetal says:
I have a theory that Republicans intentionally spend us into a large hole so that the next president will be forced to cut social spending. Except this time the plan backfired when we came close to another great depression. Obama is being forced to spend billions to keep the country from sliding into large scale unemployment.
March 10th, 2010 at 5:19 pmCut Taxes…Deregulate the Economy…Release the Free Market to create Prosperity.
That’s the BUSH PLAN…a 8 year experiment that ended in disaster.
Ever since Reagan started with this TAX CUTS for the Upper Income Taxpayers, the Deficit has SOARED.
The only Respite was the Clinton years, when the Budget WAS Balanced after Modest TAX INCREASES on the WEALTHY.
March 10th, 2010 at 5:19 pmKenneth says:
Pilotshark Sponsored by Boeing,
I’m being home-schooled right now! YOU ought to read my current homework assignment. – “A Patriot’s History of the United State”
YOU might learn something!
March 10th, 2010 at 5:19 pm–
Kenneth? Have you ever heard that line “laughter makes you live longer?” Maybe I should keep you around and try for immortality.
@76 really??? LOL could not have guessed
so who wrote this crap? “A Patriot’s History of the United State”
March 10th, 2010 at 5:20 pmKenneth says:
“I’m being home-schooled right now! YOU ought to read my current homework assignment. – “A Patriot’s History of the United State””
So all that stuff you told us months ago about your successful life was just adolescent imaginations?
Go back to your Play Station History of the United States.
March 10th, 2010 at 5:21 pmJFK’s tax cuts were a Keynesian measure… http://www.slate.com/id/2093947/
Double OOPS.
March 10th, 2010 at 5:21 pmKenneth
Pilotshark MIGHT even reading the sort of ignorant propaganda YOU would enjoy. YOU on the other hand are so stupid it is clear you will never learn ANTYING even if you read a REAL history book like Zinns Peoples History of the United States. You are a lost cause. Too stupid, too brainwashed, too pathetic. You will always be a burden on decent human beings
March 10th, 2010 at 5:21 pmpags2 says:
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MCMetal says:
I have a theory that Republicans intentionally spend us into a large hole so that the next president will be forced to cut social spending. Except this time the plan backfired when we came close to another great depression. Obama is being forced to spend billions to keep the country from sliding into large scale unemployment.
March 10th, 2010 at 5:19 pm
(In)Famous Republican saying : “Deficits don’t matter” …..
At least until a Dem takes office ; right GOP and their imbecilic tools ?
March 10th, 2010 at 5:22 pmpatrick5 says:
Looks like there won’t be anything to repeal.
Joe Donnelly, Indiana Democrat, has switched from “yes” to “no.”
Wonder if Raum is going to meet him naked in the Congressional shower?
March 10th, 2010 at 5:24 pmKenneth: “2. The JFK income tax reductions of the mid-1960’s”
Sorry, but JFK didn’t make it to the “mid-1960’s”. In the early 60’s, he lowered the top marginal rate from 91% to 76% but also took away a bunch of tax-avoidance schemes.
Reagan? Please. After that initial slashing of the top rates, he raised taxes I think five times over the next 8 years. And, he helped push though the biggest tax increase in history – doubling the Social Security tax.
Harding? This is a new right-wing meme. You can see some short-term success in the early 20’s, but this guy’s policies would lead right up to Black Monday in ‘29. Come on!
March 10th, 2010 at 5:26 pmKenneth says:
patrick5 says:
Looks like there won’t be anything to repeal.
Joe Donnelly, Indiana Democrat, has switched from “yes” to “no.”
Wonder if Raum is going to meet him naked in the Congressional shower?
March 10th, 2010 at 5:26 pm–
First you sickos are dreaming about Rush and now showering Democrats? Is there something you need to tell the class?
First STORM exposes himself, now Kenneth admits he is a teenaged homeschooler.
Stress will peel away the layers.
Does your mom make you put your head down on the table when you need a time out Kenny?
March 10th, 2010 at 5:27 pmKenneth says:
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patrick5 says:
Looks like there won’t be anything to repeal.
Joe Donnelly, Indiana Democrat, has switched from “yes” to “no.”
Wonder if Raum is going to meet him naked in the Congressional shower?
March 10th, 2010 at 5:24 pm
Least Rahm would only be in there to confront/threaten them ; unlike Rove , Foley , Craig , Gannon or you , who’d proposition them , skid mark ……..
March 10th, 2010 at 5:27 pmKenneth
I wonder if you are ever going to say anything OTHER than ignorant punkass trollturds. I wonder if you have a brain at all. I wonder how disgusting and stupid you are going to get before you just begin to cry about how pathetic you are. I wonder if you ever even had a clue what the word decency means much less HAVE any. I wonder why you dont just kill yourself since you such a miserable, pathetic piece of shit
March 10th, 2010 at 5:28 pmLefty Liberal says:
Guys, he is right. If we read this piece of trash, we just might find out his is a bigger moron than what we currently think. We just MIGHT learn something!
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I’ll pass.
But to be fair…like most books made by republicans (provided they haven’t been “over-fapped” by their tea-bagger fans) are good for starting fires in the fire-place. Not as cheap as their newspapers though.
March 10th, 2010 at 5:30 pmSo the party of wingnuts that has not won a general election since 2004 and whose ratings in the polls are not gaining even though the democrats are suffering are going to run on abolishing legislation the people want overwhelmingly, even the republicans want reform. What are the idiots in the media smoking?
March 10th, 2010 at 5:33 pmProgressives must have studied Revisionist History 101 and How to hate your fellow American 201.
I don’t feel the Love guys!
March 10th, 2010 at 5:36 pmI had thought Kenneth’s wish he could find a way to make golf carts go through the snow better was very odd.
Now it makes sense.
He’s not old enough to drive a car.
March 10th, 2010 at 5:36 pmLefty Liberal says:
bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:
Lefty Liberal says:
Guys, he is right. If we read this piece of trash, we just might find out his is a bigger moron than what we currently think. We just MIGHT learn something!
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I’ll pass.
But to be fair…like most books made by republicans (provided they haven’t been “over-fapped” by their tea-bagger fans) are good for starting fires in the fire-place. Not as cheap as their newspapers though.
Shouldn’t burning these right-wing pieces of trash amount to air pollution?
March 10th, 2010 at 5:37 pm–
Haha.
Maybe we could kill both air and noise pollution at once: lock the Fox crew and Rush (if he’ll fit) inside of my fire-place and light it up.
The Historical Lessons of Lower Tax Rates
http://www.heritage.org/research/taxes/wm327.cfm
March 10th, 2010 at 5:39 pmKenneth says:
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Progressives must have studied Revisionist History 101 and How to hate your fellow American 201.
I don’t feel the Love guys!
We progressives love America. Why else would we be trying to make it better?
March 10th, 2010 at 5:39 pmKenneth
No we studied ACTUAL history not the fantasies you MORONS love. There is no love for you. Simply put you are too stupid and pathetic for anyone to feel anything for you but pity
March 10th, 2010 at 5:40 pmKenneth says:
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The Historical Lessons of Lower Tax Rates
http://www.heritage.org/research/taxes/wm327.cfm
Poor Kenny doesn’t know that the Heritage Foundation is basically a right-wing think tank..
March 10th, 2010 at 5:41 pmDo you have a date yet for the prom Kenny?
Oh, wait, your a home schooler…
lol
Go pop a zit.
March 10th, 2010 at 5:42 pmKenneth the pathetic MORON
Why not go whole hog and just link to the Limborg homepage? If you cant come up with a reasonably impartial website then just STFU and stop humiliating yourself. It isnt like we dont already KNOW how stupid you are
March 10th, 2010 at 5:42 pmLefty Liberal says:
bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:
Lefty Liberal says:
bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:
Lefty Liberal says:
Guys, he is right. If we read this piece of trash, we just might find out his is a bigger moron than what we currently think. We just MIGHT learn something!
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I’ll pass.
But to be fair…like most books made by republicans (provided they haven’t been “over-fapped” by their tea-bagger fans) are good for starting fires in the fire-place. Not as cheap as their newspapers though.
Shouldn’t burning these right-wing pieces of trash amount to air pollution?
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Haha.
Maybe we could kill both air and noise pollution at once: lock the Fox crew and Rush (if he’ll fit) inside of my fire-place and light it up.
You are a braver man than I! I wouldn’t want to clean up the mess left over from Limpballs. That would be a greasy, nasty mess…[shudders]
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March 10th, 2010 at 5:44 pmOh god I didn’t even think of the mess! I wonder if Costco delivers bulk packs of cleaning supplies, beer. And I would need to find a place that both disposes of waste and would provide me with a hazmat suit for my hazmat suit.
3. The Reagan income tax cuts of the 1980’s. -=Kenneth=-
Reagans tax cuts were mooted by excessive spending. “Trickle-down economics,”[19] due to the significant cuts in the upper tax brackets. There was a massive increase in Cold War related defense spending that caused large budget deficits,[20] the U.S. trade deficit expansion,[20] and contributed to the Savings and Loan crisis,[21] In order to cover new federal budget deficits, the United States borrowed heavily both domestically and abroad, raising the national debt from $700 billion to $3 trillion,[22] -Wiki
March 10th, 2010 at 5:45 pmlinzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:
We progressives love America. Why else would we be trying to make it better?
Your ideas are a little warped.
“Give a man a fish and feed him for a day. Teach him how to fish and feed him for a lifetime.”
March 10th, 2010 at 5:45 pmThis is the ultimate in scare tactics. Just like the Repubs threatened to repeal Medicare……I guess they’ve underestimated the American people’s wanting of health reform!!
March 10th, 2010 at 5:46 pmHey Kenneth, you pathetic troll, did heritage tell you that Ronnie Raygun was a fraud and a failure like everyone who has lived through his legacy knows? You gullible wingnuts believe anything that supports your ignorance.
March 10th, 2010 at 5:48 pmKenneth says:
linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:
We progressives love America. Why else would we be trying to make it better?
Your ideas are a little warped.
“Give a man a fish and feed him for a day. Teach him how to fish and feed him for a lifetime.”
March 10th, 2010 at 5:48 pm–
Or at least until that man gets sick or even dies from eating the fish that has been swimming in all the crap conservatives want to pump into our water. Mmm…mmmm.
Kenneth
You are such a brainwashed LIAR. That argument would hold so much more wieght if the same selfish punks like YOU that TALK about teaching a man to fish are always AGAINST jobs programs. No what selfish pricks like you REALLY mean is teach a man to fish and you feed him for a day. Set him on FIRE and you keep him warm the rest of his life
March 10th, 2010 at 5:49 pmKenneth says: @67
“The Three Most Significant Income Tax Reductions in the US”
Didn’t I see these tax statistics on the 3 minutes of hate I watched on Glenn Beck (all I could stand to watch) where he started with Woodrow Wilson and proceeded to outline the “Progressive conspiracy” he’s currently touting?
BTW, I almost ROFL when Glenn underlined (with a meaningful leer) the word “Progressive” where he had written the sinister words “Progressive Tax” on his little chalkboard.
March 10th, 2010 at 5:49 pmKenneth: “The Historical Lessons of Lower Tax Rates”
Right. Over at the Heritage Institute they’ve been saying this for years. If you lower the rate, you bring in more money! To a critical thinker, that might beg the question, “then what is the optimum rate?” If it’s true that you get more when you lower the rate, would you collect infinite taxes if the rate were zero?
March 10th, 2010 at 5:49 pmNotice Dubya did the same thing, cut taxes and spent more on war, adding to budget deficits and likely contributed to the financial crisis of 2008.
Its like deja vu all over again.
March 10th, 2010 at 5:50 pmCutting taxes doesnt create jobs it goes to wall street and by the magic of usury just creates profits without the creation of jobs.
March 10th, 2010 at 5:52 pmLefty Liberal says:
Well if they don’t carry the hazmat suits you might want to check this out.
[all right, I admit it, I have a twisted sense of humor...]
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Haha. It works…and they do ship to Washington! And the fact that the coffin is called “God’s Care casket” is funny as hell…if God gave a damn, why would I need a casket?
That coffin is almost as awesome as these.
March 10th, 2010 at 5:52 pmRightwing morons LOVE to be brainwashed with bumper sticker sophistry. Like the simplistic teach a man to fish adage. Of course you also have to assure he can be transported to a lake river or the ocean, that he has the EQUIPMENT to fish AND if it takes more than one day to teach him for goodness sake give the guy a FISH. Such nuances are Kryptonite to cons. They are far too stupid to ever look under the surface of such sophistry. They are TOLD to think it. It sounds good. They repeat it. Thus has it always been. The congenitally stupid like Kenneth are eternally pitiful
March 10th, 2010 at 5:53 pmYour ideas are a little warped. -Kenneth
Your ideas havent changed since Reagan. Cut taxes for the wealthy then borrow from foreign countries to pay for military excess.
March 10th, 2010 at 5:54 pmFeel Free Lefty. I forgot where I stole it. If I say it its in the public domain.
March 10th, 2010 at 5:55 pmlinzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:
The republican/conservative solution to dealing with the debt:
CUT SOCIAL PROGRAMS!!
Old, sick, infirm, poor, who cares about them..
or UGG’s solution: leave them out in front of caves for bears and tigers to eat…
March 10th, 2010 at 5:58 pmShorter Kenneth: I want the government to indebt me to forign countries cause Im a patriot fo freedomb!!
March 10th, 2010 at 5:59 pmLefty
I approve wholeheartedly
March 10th, 2010 at 6:00 pmwhat it would take for political leaders to stop the “demonization” of insurers???????????????????????
Oh, I don’t know. Doctors hate dealing with their tactics. Clients hate dealing with their tactics. Most folk can’t figure out why the execs get record salaries while there is a depression going on.
March 10th, 2010 at 6:02 pmUSCKitty =^..^= yes, my name really IS Kitty…well at least to my students… says:
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linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:
The republican/conservative solution to dealing with the debt:
CUT SOCIAL PROGRAMS!!
Old, sick, infirm, poor, who cares about them..
or UGG’s solution: leave them out in front of caves for bears and tigers to eat
That kinda reminds me of a story that I had to read for my American lit class named “The Law of Nature” by Jack London..Except it was wolves in the story, not bears or tigers…
March 10th, 2010 at 6:04 pmLefty Liberal says:
bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:
Lefty Liberal says:
Well if they don’t carry the hazmat suits you might want to check this out.
[all right, I admit it, I have a twisted sense of humor...]
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Haha. It works…and they do ship to Washington! And the fact that the coffin is called “God’s Care casket” is funny as hell…if God gave a damn, why would I need a casket?
That coffin is almost as awesome as these.
that is why I chose that particular model.
I want to be buried in a pineapple coffin! :)
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Haha…if I was placed in that…I’m not sure I would want to be buried. A chance to show off even though you’re dead already. :D
What would be really cool to do: set up solar panels above ground which are wired to a killer surround sound system (and some kind of iPod/mp3 system set on random) inside the coffin…then have the base of the coffin contain sub-woofers. Either have it set on a timer to play or an above ground hidden motion detectors would be even funnier.
March 10th, 2010 at 6:05 pmLefty Liberal says:
bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:
Lefty Liberal says:
bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:
Lefty Liberal says:
Well if they don’t carry the hazmat suits you might want to check this out.
[all right, I admit it, I have a twisted sense of humor...]
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Haha. It works…and they do ship to Washington! And the fact that the coffin is called “God’s Care casket” is funny as hell…if God gave a damn, why would I need a casket?
That coffin is almost as awesome as these.
that is why I chose that particular model.
I want to be buried in a pineapple coffin! :)
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Haha…if I was placed in that…I’m not sure I would want to be buried. A chance to show off even though you’re dead already. :D
What would be really cool to do: set up solar panels above ground which are wired to a killer surround sound system (and some kind of iPod/mp3 system set on random) inside the coffin…then have the base of the coffin contain sub-woofers. Either have it set on a timer to play or an above ground hidden motion detectors would be even funnier.
Instead of music, I want quotes from my bible translation project to be spoken!
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Haha. If that’s the case we would probably want to bury you in a more conservative area. And turn up the volume. Hell we’ll hide speakers in the bushes and trees.
BB-Coffin Planners: We Help You Piss People Off After You’ve Been Offed.
March 10th, 2010 at 6:10 pmAs that old, crazy liberal, Dan Rather, told Chris “I get a tingle up my leg with Obama speaks” Matthews, “Obama can’t sell watermelons if he had the state troopers pulling over passersby.” Now that is funny. Who know the old lefty was such a big joker?
March 10th, 2010 at 6:11 pmMr.Duke,
March 10th, 2010 at 6:12 pmLink or GTFO.
Oh hi, Mr Pukestain!
March 10th, 2010 at 6:14 pmHow are you?
Mr Duke
I guess you KNOW you are too stupid to actually contribute so you have devolved into PURE TROLL. My GOD you are so pathetic it make me sick. Go FCUK yourself punk. Got any of your trademark ignorance to spew about the actual TOPIC? NO? You are a punk
March 10th, 2010 at 6:14 pmI’ve noticed a trend here. Troll or trolls show up, do nothing but repeat wingnut precepts and platitudes, and then the discussion goes out the window, replaced by not much. I, frankly, would welcome opposition discussion, but tend to look the other way once we sink into the back-and-forth abyss of insult (and yes, I plead guilty to sometime engaging). Might I suggest that in the future, trolls simply be ignored with no comment at all, and let intelligent discussion proceed? Seems to me that when they disrupt intelligent discussion, they’ve accomplished their purpose, their goals have been met.
Why should we allow them that? They’re empty-headed, shit-citing morons who know nothing about anything, and yet there they stand, highlighted. Doesn’t make much sense. How about simply voting them down without comment an into oblivion, not acknowledging their presence in any other way?
March 10th, 2010 at 6:14 pmHandle the trolls however you want I am gone
March 10th, 2010 at 6:17 pmLefty Liberal says:
bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:
Lefty Liberal says:
bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:
Lefty Liberal says:
bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:
Lefty Liberal says:
Well if they don’t carry the hazmat suits you might want to check this out.
[all right, I admit it, I have a twisted sense of humor...]
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Haha. It works…and they do ship to Washington! And the fact that the coffin is called “God’s Care casket” is funny as hell…if God gave a damn, why would I need a casket?
That coffin is almost as awesome as these.
that is why I chose that particular model.
I want to be buried in a pineapple coffin! :)
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Haha…if I was placed in that…I’m not sure I would want to be buried. A chance to show off even though you’re dead already. :D
What would be really cool to do: set up solar panels above ground which are wired to a killer surround sound system (and some kind of iPod/mp3 system set on random) inside the coffin…then have the base of the coffin contain sub-woofers. Either have it set on a timer to play or an above ground hidden motion detectors would be even funnier.
Instead of music, I want quotes from my bible translation project to be spoken!
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Haha. If that’s the case we would probably want to bury you in a more conservative area. And turn up the volume. Hell we’ll hide speakers in the bushes and trees.
BB-Coffin Planners: We Help You Piss People Off After You’ve Been Offed.
Here is the first draft of the first 6 chapters of Exodus 3 from my bible translation:
1 Now Moses kept the flock of Jethro, his father in law, the priest of Midian: and he used the backside of the flock in the desert for his own gratification, and came upon a mountain of Herbs the size of God.
2 And the angel of the Lord appeared unto him with a flame of fire and a bush of hemp; and he looked, and beheld the bush burned with fire, and the bush was being consumed in a cloud of smoke.
3 And Moses said, I will now breathe deep, and see this great sight, why the bush is being consumed in a cloud of smoke.
4 And when the Lord saw that he turned aside to see, God called unto him out of the midst of the smoke, and said, Moses, Moses, and he said, dude, here am I.
5 And he said, Draw a high, kick off your shoes, and put your feet up, for this is holy ground.
6 Moreover he said, I am the God of thy father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob. And Moses hid his face; for he was getting stoned.
Do you think that would go over in a conservative area, or would my grave be desecrated?
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*cough* *cough* …Hell yeah. *cough* *cough* I’ll admit that I like the idea of God (or at least the other characters in the bible being stoned other than them just being pissed a fair amount of the time). Seriously explains a lot if God is a stoner: why else would he tried to wipe out the gays with Katrina but end up getting everybody else? Word of advice to God: Say no to smokin and smitin.
Well there’s two options we can go through with for the burial:
1) Go with a more burial site in a more liberal area.
2) Stay and set-up motion sensor triggered anti-personnel machine guns around the perimeter of the grave site. Projectile stun guns are fine too.
Speaking of pot and religion: the first poster on this thread is high as hell and he practically invents a pot religion.
March 10th, 2010 at 6:26 pmFrugalchariot says:
I’ve noticed a trend here. Troll or trolls show up, do nothing but repeat wingnut precepts and platitudes, and then the discussion goes out the window, replaced by not much. I, frankly, would welcome opposition discussion, but tend to look the other way once we sink into the back-and-forth abyss of insult (and yes, I plead guilty to sometime engaging). Might I suggest that in the future, trolls simply be ignored with no comment at all, and let intelligent discussion proceed? Seems to me that when they disrupt intelligent discussion, they’ve accomplished their purpose, their goals have been met.
The fact is: You Libtards can’t stop reacting. Your thinking part of your brain is attached to your emotional segment and you can’t resist.
Nice Try!
March 10th, 2010 at 6:34 pmLefty Liberal says:
bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:
*cough* *cough* …Hell yeah. *cough* *cough* I’ll admit that I like the idea of God (or at least the other characters in the bible being stoned other than them just being pissed a fair amount of the time). Seriously explains a lot if God is a stoner: why else would he tried to wipe out the gays with Katrina but end up getting everybody else? Word of advice to God: Say no to smokin and smitin.
Well there’s two options we can go through with for the burial:
1) Go with a more burial site in a more liberal area.
2) Stay and set-up motion sensor triggered anti-personnel machine guns around the perimeter of the grave site. Projectile stun guns are fine too.
Speaking of pot and religion: the first poster on this thread is high as hell and he practically invents a pot religion.
Who said gawd missed with Katrina? We have only the religious wackos word that he tried to wipe out the gays. Notice that the French Quarter where most of the gay bars are was virtually untouched and the “religious” areas were wiped out. I think that is the real lesson.
My translation isn’t going to be about pot, though it will be there. The parallels with pot and the “burning bush” were just too good not to pass up.
When I get to the New Testament, it will be mostly about how jebus and the 12 wing men were actually gay, and how jebus was really “hung”…
[yep, I'm going to burn...]
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Sorry I could resist taking a shot at the old God has shitty aim by suggesting he was f***ed up when he tried to hit the French Quarter, missed and devastated the churches. It’s only funny when you think about all the idiot preachers who have said stupid shit about the residents of the French Quarter.
And hey if God can’t take satire…f*** him!
March 10th, 2010 at 6:38 pmKenneth says:
March 10th, 2010 at 6:42 pmYour thinking part of your brain is attached to your emotional segment and you can’t resist.
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At least we use our cerebrums and our pre-frontal cortex’s…you conservatives are emotionless robots who couldn’t think your way out of a paper bag. Piss off Kenny.
Lefty Liberal says:
bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:
And hey if God can’t take satire…f*** him!
Amen, brother, Amen. And can I get a Hallelujah?!?
March 10th, 2010 at 6:44 pm–
Hallelujah!
Lefty Liberal says:
bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:
Kenneth says:
Your thinking part of your brain is attached to your emotional segment and you can’t resist.
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At least we use our cerebrums and our pre-frontal cortex’s…you conservatives are emotionless robots who couldn’t think your way out of a paper bag. Piss off Kenny.
I always hate pointing out others typos because I don’t really like it when others do it to me, but in this case I will break my rule. I think what you meant to type was:
Piss ON Kenny. :)
March 10th, 2010 at 6:47 pm–
Haha.
That’s Rush’s job and I’m sure Kenny would like that more.
Kenneth says:
“Your thinking part of your brain is attached to your emotional segment…”
Sez the teenage homeschooler…
Don’t you mean member?
In all seriousness Kenny, I had no idea of your actual age and life situation.
It’s apparent now you are full of book knowledge, and narrow at that, and have no actual experience of the world at large.
I’ll lay off my barbed comments, given you are a minor and that you have a whole life ahead of you to get out and about and see the real world.
Your greatest challenge in life may be to survive your upbringing without permanent damage.
March 10th, 2010 at 6:51 pmBest of luck kid.
Write if you find work.
Crenshaw:
March 10th, 2010 at 7:02 pmPlease send nine $15.00 bikinis to Kenneth.
noseeum, et al… says:
March 10th, 2010 at 7:06 pmCrenshaw:
Please send nine $15.00 bikinis to Kenneth.
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It’s a shame Rush isn’t fleeing the country…Kenny doesn’t have a use for a bikini anymore.
Frugalchariot says:
See what I mean! — You can’t resist reacting!
bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:
Kenneth says:
March 10th, 2010 at 7:10 pmYour thinking part of your brain is attached to your emotional segment and you can’t resist.
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At least we use our cerebrums and our pre-frontal cortex’s…you conservatives are emotionless robots who couldn’t think your way out of a paper bag. Piss off Kenny.
Keep it up Kenny…you’re just making yourself look stupider.
March 10th, 2010 at 7:13 pmWho grades your homework Kenny, your dad?
March 10th, 2010 at 7:14 pmnoseeum, et al… says:
March 10th, 2010 at 7:19 pmWho grades your homework Kenny, your dad?
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If it is his dad who has to read Kenny’s drivel…I feel bad for his dad.
Healthcare “Reform”: the corporatist version
Phase 1: A.)Institute the individual mandate to purchase for-profit wealthcare insurance and include a few weak morsels of pseudo-regulation on the for-profit insurance corporations.
B.) Do not in any way, shape, or form, do anything to either create real competition for the for-profits, or repeal their exemption from anti-monopoly laws. Doing the latter will make it impossible to collude and produce unaffordable premiums for the pre-existing conditioners we will be forced to offer an unaffordable premiums to.
B.)Deny the people the employer mandate, because the intent of the individual mandate is to make it illegal for individuals not to purchase for-profit wealthcare insurance, thus negating the need for employers to provide it, thus shifting the entire cost of the premium directly to the individual.
Phase 2: Repeal only the weak morsels of pseudo-regulation on insurance corporations with the net result a legal mandate to buy and even more expensive, bad for-profit product.
Thank you, Jesus.
March 10th, 2010 at 7:33 pmyour emotional segment
March 10th, 2010 at 7:34 pm–Does he mean the amygdala?
Even the Hannity of progressive talk, Ed Schultz is now drinking the Kool-Aid.
Progressive my buttocks.
March 10th, 2010 at 7:37 pmI just heard the idiot Nancy, The wicked witch of the west, Pelosi say that she has the votes to pass health care today. Ok Nancy why didn’t you have a vote today? Could it be you don’t have the votes?
March 10th, 2010 at 10:00 pmLefty Liberal says:
bizzarobrain:
Speaking of hallelujahs, have you seen this:
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I’m not sure it would have been up to Händel’s tastes had it been performed back in his day but that was very well done. It’s oddly even more of an enjoyable song with the signs.