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CNN’s Crowley Suggests Democrats Debated Afghanistan Exit Strategy To ‘Make The Massa Story Go Away’

Today, the House of Representatives is debating H. Con Res. 248, a privileged resolution brought to the floor by Reps. Dennis Kucinich (D-OH), Walter Jones (R-NC), and others that required Congress to debate whether or not to continue the war in Afghanistan.

During one point in the debate, Rep. Patrick Kennedy (D-RI) delivered an impassioned speech against escalating in Afghanistan and condemned the media for its wall-to-wall coverage of the scandal surrounding former Rep. Eric Massa while ignoring the Afghanistan debate in Congress:

KENNEDY: What is shameful is our policy that puts them in harm’s way when they don’t need to be … Finally, if anyone wants to know where citizens are, there’s two pres people in this gallery. We’re talking about Eric Massa 24-7 on the TV, we’re talking about war and peace, $3 billion, 1,000 lives and no press, you want to know why the American public is fit? They’re fit because they’re not seeing their Congress do the work they’re sent to do. It’s because the press, the press of the United States is not covering the most significant issue of national importance and that’s the laying of lives down in the nation for the service of our country. It’s despicable, the national press corps right now!

Watch it:

Soon after the speech, CNN host Rick Sanchez asked State of the Union host Candy Crowley to comment on Kennedy’s media complaint. Crowley mused that it could be argued “one way or another” whether the Massa scandal was as important as debating the war in Afghanistan, and even suggested that Kennedy made his speech because “the Democrats in particular and certainly…Kennedy would like the Massa story to go away“:

CROWLEY: I think think it is one that — what he is arguing — is that it is one of perspective and [he] obviously believes that Massa’s been given too much attention where the war in Afghanistan is not. You know, we could argue one way or the other, but it is very clear that he –the Democrats in particular and certainly Congressman Kennedy in specific would like the Massa story to go away.

Watch it:

Given that 895 American soldiers have died in combat in Afghanistan and the U.S. is spending $101 million a day on the war — which has lasted longer that World War II — there are plenty of good reasons for Congressional Democrats to be debating an exit strategy from Afghanistan other than to distract from a minor scandal.

Update The resolution failed 65-356. The full roll call of the vote is here.


265 Responses to “CNN’s Crowley Suggests Democrats Debated Afghanistan Exit Strategy To ‘Make The Massa Story Go Away’”

  1. P.D. says:

    I remember back in 2006 before the elections, Crowley had a segment about the Democrats and how they are. CNN should be called Faux News Lite.


  2. P.D. says:

    @1, Oops. I meant how the Democrats are losers. My Bad!


  3. Chicano2nd says:

    These people pull this crap out of their asses and we are supposed to be impressed? I think not! What a waste of financial resources. What poor performers and work ethic in the good Ole U.S. of Amerryka.


  4. Mr. Evil says:

    Oh yes, ass tweaking and tickling by an arrogant jerk must stay in the news. Death, destruction and billions of dollars wasted must stay out of the news. Go figure.


  5. noseeum, et al... says:

    Got any Fuzzy Slippers, Crenshaw?


  6. Bozo The Neoclown says:

    “Today is the part of women’s festival”

    if it’s anything like the “wombmyn’s” festivals they have around here they surely don’t want any men hanging around, gift or no gift.


  7. glogrrl says:

    I wish debating the exit strategy in Afghanistan would make Crowley go away.


  8. Mr. Evil says:

    Let’s have a fashion show in Afghanistan. Then the media might finally give a shit and go there. They’d actually only give a shit about the fashion show but, at least they’d go there.


  9. 5th Estate says:

    1) the Massa story has ‘gone away’ because he resigned and confessed within 48 hours of the news breaking—unlike Foley, Craig, Sanford, Ensign, Vitter who all continued to deny and dissemble for weeks and with very public support from Hastert and other Republicans.

    2) Eff you, you stupid venal bit(h.


  10. pags2 says:

    Kennedy is correct that the media is ignoring the debate which is more important than Massa. No doubt the Dems prefer the debate be ignored for fear that Republicans will rant about defense and security. It is impossible for the Dems to have a rational debate on these issues when Republicans use the issues for campaigns. It is time for us to exit Afghanistan. The people are loyal to no one and no matter how much money we pour into the country, the people are no better off. Corruption exists at all levels of the government and the people can be easily bought. We are wasting lives and money there.


  11. dbadass says:

    men have a gift you ready?

    Why yes, yes I do… Now I don’t mean to be rude but what the heck is wrong with you Crenshaw? Everyday is part of the festival of women at my place….


  12. dixie blood (sponsored by The Party Stop Stores) says:

    We all know Candy is bad for your health.


  13. mariah10carey88 says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  14. Badmoodman says:

    Crowley: “but it is very clear that he –the Democrats in particular and certainly Congressman Kennedy in specific would like the Massa story to go away.”

    – - Massa made his own bed and now he can lie in it and grope himself. Massa “Palin’d” his congressional seat and the if the Democrats want this story to go away it’s only because it’s puerile and insignificant.


  15. Bozo The Neoclown says:

    “and a huge shift of Independant support away from the Democratic Party.”

    yes, because studies have shown americans are aligned with teabagging tards such as yourself.


  16. Mr.Duke says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  17. Rab says:

    mariah10carey88 says:

    I’m laughing at the name, she is batshit crazy and so you too ………


  18. Rab says:

    Mr. Duke : Your cup of urine is ready


  19. dbadass says:

    I will drink to that …

    —-
    to what? The Kennedy’s or to impassioned speaking?


  20. 5th Estate says:

    P.D. says: I remember back in 2006 before the elections, Crowley had a segment about the Democrats and how they are. CNN should be called Faux News Lite.

    Or Fox News Lame.

    CNN is blatantly Christian, conservative and corporatist, just like FOX, but lacks FOX’s stable of demagogues, the level of fake outrage, and the prudish moralizing whilst they interview Hooters babes and run stripper/bikini footage regardless of the the content or topic at hand.

    And I guess that difference makes all the difference to CNN.

    BTW, the BBC really should sue CNN about their corporate identity—”the most trusted name in news”, and ‘international news leader’, my a$$!


  21. Bozo The Neoclown says:

    “I will drink to that …”

    mr puke,
    you drink it up everyday when fatass limpballs blows his load of talking points down your throat


  22. dixie blood (sponsored by The Party Stop Stores) says:

    mariah10carey88 says:

    ——————————————————————————–

    The left is going to target Candy Crowley now?

    Yes. And any other MSM morons who can’t keep their shit straight.

    Sorry, but not every TV anchor is going to be Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow.

    Well they should at least try.

    i thought the left sunk to an all time low when they started going after chris matthews…

    Tweety Bird Matthews is a loud mouth blow hard.

    This kind of whiny crap from these blogs that I used to visit regularly is what is polarizing us and going to lead to a huge GOP takeover and a huge shift of Independant support away from the Democratic Party.

    Whaaa…whaaa….whaaaaa!


  23. bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:

    5th Estate,
    I agree.
    CNN sucks…it’s been transformed into a corporate whore and Christian Right network. It’s not news, its hardly even entertainment anymore…its Fox News Light.


  24. 5th Estate says:

    hiya pags2.

    And now with a little editing….

    No matter how much money we pour into the country [...] the people are no better off. Corruption exists at all levels of the government and the people can be easily bought. We are wasting lives and money.

    Scary, ain’t it? :D


  25. Mr.Duke says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  26. Zooey, Mother Superior, Church of Perpetual Whoopie says:

    Crowley mused that it could be argued “one way or another” whether the Massa scandal was as important as debating the war in Afghanistan…

    Really? It could be argued one way or the other that a story about an idiot member of congress who sexually harasses his staff, was just as important as a war in which more and more of our troops are killed every year.

    Is that really how you want to roll with this, Ms Crowley?

    You unforgivable b!tch.


  27. candide says:

    Crowley is a wind sock. She and the crappy american press are nothing but scandalmongers. I thought the b.s. about the thug homos in the airport johns was b.s., too. The american people don’t care that they are killing thousands abroad with their little motorized, pilotless aircraft. No, what is important is who is suc*ing the president’s co*k and whether some douchbag minor league congressman grabbed somebody’s crotch when he was drunk at a party. America is a 4th class country inhabited by rednecks and know-nothings. Time to give up on it.


  28. Bozo The Neoclown says:

    and i suppose you can provide a credible link to prove your racist rant, right mr puke?


  29. dixie blood (sponsored by The Party Stop Stores) says:

    mariah10carey88 says:

    ——————————————————————————–

    [...] This kind of whiny crap from these blogs that I used to visit regularly is what is polarizing us and going to lead to a huge GOP takeover and a huge shift of Independant support away from the Democratic Party.

    True progressives stand on principle and not the fear of the next election cycle.

    That’s what makes us different from useless, dumbphuck, corporate-whore RePugniScums.

    Of course, if you don’t like this blog you can STFU and go away.



  30. bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:

    Its f***ing insane that the CNN anchors would rather focus on some trivial political scandal and not how we plan on getting out of this seemingly endless war.

    What else should I expect from the station that reported that the Discovery space shuttle traveled at 18 times speed the light during liftoff?


  31. questioneverything says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  32. Fred ♪♫♪ says:

    Mr.Duke just can’t miss a chance to be a racist.

    how’s that impeachment coming? Don’t hear much about it in the real world.


  33. dbadass says:

    Honeydew is your real money melon…


  34. MCMetal says:

    Candy Crowley is such a GOP water carrying idiot ; there are numerous examples of her pro-GOP behavior , it’s ridiculous.

    From making excuses for McCrappyPilot’s entire campaign lying about everything to excusing Bobby Piyush Brady Jindal’s godawful response to Obama’s address to Congress , she is ALWAYS on the side of the horseshit GOP ………………

    She has all the credibility of a She-Yawn Insanity and/or a Glennda Speck ; NONE …………..


  35. Zooey, Mother Superior, Church of Perpetual Whoopie says:

    mariah10carey88 says:
    The left is going to target Candy Crowley now? Sorry, but not every TV anchor is going to be Keith Olbermann and Rachel Maddow.

    Rest assured, I will go after Keith or Rachel just the same way if they ever pull such a bone-headed stunt. Unlike O’Reilly clones, ditto heads, and Beck fans who hear “gospel truth” every time their favorite liar speaks.

    Learn the difference.


  36. Zooey, Mother Superior, Church of Perpetual Whoopie says:

    questioneverything says:
    Can I make more as a liberal blogger on a crappy right wing site than some you make here?

    Probably not. Soros pay pretty well.


  37. Mr.Duke says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  38. Mr.Duke says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  39. 5th Estate says:

    mariah10carey88 says: The left is going to target… i thought the left sunk to an all time low….This kind of whiny crap… is what is polarizing us and going to lead to a huge GOP takeover and a huge shift of Independant support away from the Democratic Party.”

    Towards what? The GOP, that ruined the economy and destroyed the middle class and took us to war on lies? Or some other party? —In which case what’s the platform and who will the candidates be? Or will the “independents” just refuse to participate? I’m just asking…


  40. Bozo The Neoclown says:

    mr puke considers “newsbuster” a credible source
    BBBBWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.
    what an assclown


  41. What the GOP REALLY means ... says:

    Mr.Duke says:

    Failing to sell Watermelon isn’t an impeachable offense.

    WAAAAH! The wibs are going to call me racist! WAAAAH! What did uh doo hoo?


  42. MCMetal says:

    Mr.Duke says:

    ——————————————————————————–

    Failing to sell Watermelon isn’t an impeachable offense.
    March 10th, 2010 at 7:58 pm

    But revealing the identity of a covert CIA officer is ; and that’s whom you continue to apologize and excuse-make for , you anti-American skid mark ………


  43. Fred ♪♫♪ says:

    Mr.Duke says:
    Failing to sell Watermelon isn’t an impeachable offense.

    any racist worth his salt would do more than make racial remarks on a liberal blog.

    are you yellow?


  44. Mr.Duke says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  45. Bozo The Neoclown says:

    “Fred ♪♫♪ says:

    Mr.Duke
    are you yellow?”

    only when his methwhore mom pisses the bed at night


  46. Mr.Duke says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  47. What the GOP REALLY means ... says:

    A stupid remark to a staffer should take down what the democratic party spent years working to achieve. Impotent republicans say so. Power is their viagra.


  48. dbadass says:

    can do you buy watermelon with your taxpayer funded food stamps? …

    Have you asked Scott Brown’s mother?


  49. Bozo The Neoclown says:

    oohhhhhh, i must have hit a nerve with mr. puke. notice his use of bold.

    speaking of “welfare” i wonder what bristol palin, unwed welfare queen’s been up to these days>?


  50. bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:

    Zooey, Mother Superior, Church of Perpetual Whoopie says:
    questioneverything says:
    Can I make more as a liberal blogger on a crappy right wing site than some you make here?

    Probably not. Soros pay pretty well.

    I guess I owe Mr. Soros a phone call then.

    “Where’s my damn paycheck? I slave over a hot keyboard all day… What… You really can re-distribute the wealth? I’ll take a few of McCain’s mansions and we’ll call it even!”


  51. Bozo The Neoclown says:

    “Yeah, Bozo can do you buy watermelon with your taxpayer funded food stamps?”
    let ask joe the plumber. he’s been on the dole. myself, never.


  52. What the GOP REALLY means ... says:

    Mr.Duke says:

    Yeah, Bozo can do you buy watermelon with your taxpayer funded food stamps? …

    Food stamps are hardly taboo anymore, given that eight years of your economic policies have created significant dependence on aid programs. We republicans reap what we sow, troll boy.


  53. dbadass says:

    joe the plumber
    —Whatever happen to Mr. Still Finding Myself? Average my ass. That is my age bracket and I know no contempories that still haven’t figured out what they wanna be when they grow up….


  54. What the GOP REALLY means ... says:

    George Soros is the f a c e of EVIL!


  55. Bozo The Neoclown says:

    leave it to those palin women to work the system like true welfare queens

    “Tripp’s grandfather Todd is a descendant of the Yup’ik Eskimo, and thus, his children and grandchildren are registered with the Curyung Tribal Council, part of the Bristol Bay Native Association. Further, this means they are eligible for government-run health insurance through the Indian Health Service.”
    http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.action?articleId=281474978063541


  56. bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:

    What the GOP REALLY means … says:
    Mr.Duke says:
    Yeah, Bozo can do you buy watermelon with your taxpayer funded food stamps? …

    Food stamps are hardly taboo anymore, given that eight years of your economic policies have created significant dependence on aid programs. We republicans reap what we sow, troll boy.


    Or instead let’s just keep f***king over everyone we’ve already f***ed over by giving money to the rich so they can get even richer. It will trickle down to us any day now. Like when a rich guy gives a homeless guy a quarter for washing his windows./snark


  57. What the GOP REALLY means ... says:

    bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:

    Or instead let’s just keep f***king over everyone we’ve already f***ed over by giving money to the rich so they can get even richer. It will trickle down to us any day now. Like when a rich guy gives a homeless guy a quarter for washing his windows./snark

    Oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah that’s what iii’m talkin’ about!!!!!!!!!!!

    Every American can become a millionaire if they get off their butts and set some goals ™.


  58. 5th Estate says:

    No surprise that Res.248 failed.

    Of course as Afghanistan was never a declared war, Congress as a whole could claim that as they didn’t start it they don;t have to end it.

    But if they want to be fiscally responsible, they should end it.
    OR
    they should commit more resources to alter status quo there and treat the whole project as a humanitarian and developmental mission FIRST and FOREMOST, not some magical WAR that will provide some magical benefit as soon as it is ‘won’.

    Of course it’s all a hell of a lot easier, having nonetheless authorized the invasion and occupation for 9 years, to just pretend it has nothing to do with them and that it’s strictly Obama’s problem.

    Hell, it;s not like Congress gets denied affordable health care, or has any of its other tax-payer funded benefits downsized, or its wages cut because Afghanistan somehow matters more to the US than it;s own people.


  59. 5th Estate says:

    questioneverything….determine nothing, and solve nothing.


  60. Xisithrus says:

    Didnt Beck apologize for wasting Americas time with the Massa interview?
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    OT but interesting photos over Norway:
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1234430/Mystery-spiral-blue-light-display-hovers-Norway.html


  61. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Mr.Duke says:

    Yeah, Bozo can do you buy watermelon with your taxpayer funded food stamps? …

    Oh yeeeeeeaaaah..

    Nothing quite like a stale, trite cliche to say “I have no idea what I’m talking about… none what so ever… no real point… nothing substantive in the least…”


  62. mausium says:

    @15

    mariah10carey88 says:

    Get bent and go away, you concern troll. The people we’re going after were never progressives/liberals. I don’t know if someone’s paying your salary or not, but you’re transparently not interested in discussion. Go away.


  63. dbadass says:

    Was there a Nordic Death Metal show going on anywhere nearby?


  64. tiredofit10 says:

    You guys on this board do realize that Massa was a republican before he turned democrat, correct? So let the CONS have him back.


  65. Fred ♪♫♪ says:

    mr duke likes crackers


  66. mausium says:

    I’m not very concerned with what Mr Duke has to say, I’m more curious why his account hasn’t been banned yet. He’s obviously not interested in discussion, so what’s the point to letting him crap all over the site?


  67. Fred ♪♫♪ says:

    the thing that makes me laugh at racists like duke is that the white race in America in very nearly a minority.

    What will they say about minority rights then?

    You guessed it.


  68. Xisithrus says:

    Was there a Nordic Death Metal show going on anywhere nearby? -=DBA=-

    Heh


  69. MapleStreet says:

    Oh yes. I think that Massa leaving (with some possible T+A) is definitely important enough to close down the entire federal government and stop working on the problems that are there. Sure thing.

    /snark

    and may I add that I’m shocked that the repubs find the Massa story important enough to suspend the all encompasing war on ter-rah!!!


  70. e_to_the_p says:

    How do I find out who the brave 65 were?


  71. Fred ♪♫♪ says:

    Mr.Duke says:
    with your taxpayer funded food stamps? …

    does the racist not understand that 75% of welfare recipiants are single white women with one child?


  72. Zaid Jilani says:

    Click the roll call vote link.


  73. bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:

    What the GOP REALLY means … says:

    bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:

    Or instead let’s just keep f***king over everyone we’ve already f***ed over by giving money to the rich so they can get even richer. It will trickle down to us any day now. Like when a rich guy gives a homeless guy a quarter for washing his windows./snark

    Oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah that’s what iii’m talkin’ about!!!!!!!!!!!

    Every American can become a millionaire if they get off their butts and set some goals ™.

    1) Get good paying job.
    2) Win lottery.

    dbadass says:
    Was there a Nordic Death Metal show going on anywhere nearby?

    The Rapture Ready Death Cult Hot Wind Ensemble would make for a great death metal band.


  74. e_to_the_p says:

    DOH didnt see it sorry zaid thanks


  75. mausium says:

    @76

    does the racist not understand that 75% of welfare recipiants are single white women with one child?

    He doesn’t care anything, he’s just trying to get a rise out of you guys.


  76. Xisithrus says:

    …not understand that 75% of welfare recipiants are single white women with one child? -=Fred=-

    He was only for it before they actually gave birth.


  77. Zaid Jilani says:

  78. dbadass says:

    The Rapture Ready Death Cult Hot Wind Ensemble would make for a great death metal band.

    They can join my guild….


  79. weewoods says:

    This comment has been voted down. Click to read.


  80. dbadass says:

    I am about to feed the losers formally known as the Privacy Center to the Borgens…


  81. Xisithrus says:

    Know what Candy Crowley is missing? A chyron with a question marks,


  82. 5th Estate says:

    Xisithrus says: spiral lights over Norway,

    Old news, buddy. Those are Russian science/test rocket stages falling back into the atmosphere–they tell the Norwegians when they are going to launch, no mystery at all.


  83. dbadass says:

    87
    You might wanna take that up with Mr. Duke…


  84. bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:

    dbadass says:
    I am about to feed the losers formally known as the Privacy Center to the Borgens…

    Good. :D

    The first things that come up when you google Privacy Center are tutorials on how to remove it and how to fix what it did to your computer. What a shitty program.


  85. bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:

    dbadass says:
    The Rapture Ready Death Cult Hot Wind Ensemble would make for a great death metal band.

    They can join my guild….

    Careful now these fundie death metal bands are serious musicians. Please don’t ask them to cover Stryper’s To Hell With The Devil…that song might as well be satanic.

    Yes I almost laughed while writing this.


  86. P.D. says:

    What is up with weewee? What an inane ass.


  87. AaronQ of Maine says:

    This is what happens when profits are more important than news. I wish people would just turn off TV news completely.


  88. dbadass says:

    Yet you will piss and moan if your taxes are raised… What a puppy…


  89. dbadass says:

    Still not a peep about the cost of ill advised wars. Sure they care about deficits…..


  90. dbadass says:

    You couldn’t possibly raise taxes enough to cover such spending. Impossible.

    Nor could you cut spending enough to resolve the deficit….


  91. P.D. says:

    Troll boy seems to forget about Bush’s legacy of deficits. And his use of RECONCILIATION to pass tax breaks for the ultra wealthy. Funny how they seem to be suffering from short term memory…..


  92. Oval12345678 aka James K. Sayre says:

    Crowley is just another worthless lying overpaid corporate pig. The bizarre convoluted corporate BS just keeps on flowing out of their rancid minds…

    just read that only 15% percent (65 members) of the House of Representatives supported the Dennis Kucinich resolution to immediately end our imperial occupation of The Republic of Afghanistan. The other 85% of these so-called “Representatives” are just worthless lying war pigs…
    Phooey…

    o/t:
    I have been so disgusted with Obama and the big dog Dems push for the vile Senate health care deform bill that I even stopped watching Ed, Keith and Rachel on MSNBC. Thank god for Sponge Bob and Turner Classic Movies (TCM). Big Ed Schultz has always been an imperialist in foreign policy, now he has sold out to the corporate insurance pigs, saying the progressive House Dems should “trust” the Senate Dems to do “the right thing”… The hell with that crap… Apparently Markos M. on his Daily Kos has also taken this same corporatist line… Vile…


  93. krazeeinjun says:

    Candy Crowley epitomizes the utter worthlessness and depraved state of the mainstream media in this country today. Crowley has incredibly admitted on national television that the vapid, tabloid antics of a nutty congressman is a more important news story than an obscenely costly war that Americans are fighting and dying in every day! What more proof is needed that the 4th estate has completely abdicated it’s responsibilities to ensuring an enduring democracy?

    Just saying . . .


  94. P.D. says:

    @103, You tell the old geezers to give up their S.S. and Medicare. I dare you. Old folks love those programs. If the Repugs try to dismantle them, they are toast.


  95. Mefungu says:

    Why should anyone care what Crowley says? She’s a self-important moron who doesn’t have enough sense to wipe the bread crumbs off her dress before she goes on the air.


  96. dbadass says:

    So we just keep spending on failed programs?

    Can I get a list of these failed programs? Thanks


  97. Xisithrus says:

    So we just keep spending on failed programs?

    Halliburton doesnt seem to mind.


  98. P.D. says:

    Dear Lord, I think I am surrounded by men. LOL! I think I’ll make hubby’s lunch.


  99. dbadass says:

    You want the whole list or a partial?


    Either way. I list of successful programs would be nice.


  100. dbadass says:

    Failed would be all the others.

    like the National Parks.


  101. dbadass says:

    Why should National Parks make money?


  102. had enough says:

    OT: 41 Dem senators have now signed onto or made a commitment to the public health option.

    Also, I have heard other senators claim on progressive radio that there is at least 50 senators on board with public option, but for various reasons they will not sign the Bennett letter.

    Will public option be ignored or passed over via catering to the corporate masters?


  103. What the GOP REALLY means ... says:

    Deficits don’t matter. Don’t you dare counter Cheenee and Ronald Reagan, you liberal f ucker!


  104. What the GOP REALLY means ... says:

    Barrack says:

    No other president has ever run such deficits.

    You don’t have to prove that. You are a walking empirical shithead!


  105. had enough says:

    #
    #
    Barrack says:

    No other president has ever run such deficits.

    very true… Bush and Reagan ran up huge deficits


  106. linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:

    Barrack says:

    ——————————————————————————–

    220 billion dollar MONTHLY deficits matter.

    Well then, did you complain about this during the Bush years?


  107. What the GOP REALLY means ... says:

    Barrack says:

    220 billion dollar MONTHLY deficits matter.

    Deficits do not matter. How many times must I repeat myself, illiterate subordinate? Do not counter Ronald Reagan and Dick Cheney.


  108. Ape-Man says:

    It’s bad. CNN is scaraping for a way to keep the old way of doing things. Trying to keep the old tooling. it’s not working.


  109. P.D. says:

    Lefty@116, LOL! It’s always the trolls, my friend. They always seem to be male, white and Middle Aged. I have no prob with male members of TP. The trolls hate women. Some of them target women. I sure you noticed.


  110. linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:

    What the GOP REALLY means … says:

    ——————————————————————————–

    Barrack says:

    220 billion dollar MONTHLY deficits matter.

    Deficits do not matter. How many times must I repeat myself, illiterate subordinate? Do not counter Ronald Reagan and Dick Cheney.

    HAHAHAHAHA!!


  111. P.D. says:

    Lefty@140. Touche! They hate anyone who isn’t male and white. LOL! There was report out today that pointed out there are more minority births than white births. The ‘Big tent’ these as*wipes used to have is getting much, MUCH smaller.


  112. linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:

    @141
    Since you’re so concerned about the defecit, then do you have a exit strategy for Iraq and Afghanistan and are you also willing to pony up more money like a grown-up and pay a modest tax increase? Didn’t think so..


  113. What the GOP REALLY means ... says:

    My party is for limited government in the sense that it benefits the Halliburtons of the world and nothing else.


  114. P.D. says:

    @141, We have already tired of you. You can take your leave now. I don’t even read your comments. I see your tag and move on. I suggest my TP brethern do the same.


  115. linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:

    Why do the defecit hawks only come out when there’s a Democrat in the White House?


  116. P.D. says:

    Lefty@147, LOL! We can only hope! Micheal Steele is an embarrassment. But, then again, so is Palin, Jindal, Inhofe, Santorum…. The list goes on and on…


  117. linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:

    @153 I stand corrected..


  118. Marie says:

    Candy Crowley is not a journalist – she is a propagandist for the republican party!
    How dare she denigrate the seriousness of the war in Afghanistan by saying that the Democrats (Kennedy) want the Massa story to go away, so they are angry that we aren’t covering the war.
    Kennedy said the press is despicable — Crowley confirmed that.


  119. What the GOP REALLY means ... says:

    We need a limited government that takes care of its own instead of poor, black, disabled people. The America I Used To Know ™ directed government spending toward the plaid-shirt apple-pie eating flag-waving nuclear families of the land. I Want My Country Back! ™. That is the republican viewpoint with a republican flavor with a republican tinge and I am proud to provide it.


  120. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Barrack says:

    You can’t tax enough to get out of a 220 billion a month hole.

    Nooooooooooooo… you can’t.

    Buuuuuuuuuut… it sure would help, wouldn’t?

    ***eyes roll…***

    You’re not very bright, are you?


  121. What the GOP REALLY means ... says:

    Lefty Liberal, it’s pretty safe to say the national banks are the Halliburtons of the world, too.


  122. What the GOP REALLY means ... says:

    I say that while wearing my respectable republican cloth.


  123. What the GOP REALLY means ... says:

    It’s too bad he can’t run on it. It’s not like it’s a 100% flat tax, it’s a return to the progressive structure of the glorious 50s. Unfortunately, as economic conditions have declined and destabilized with the unaffordable tax cuts, too many folks remain stuck on the notion that a cigar-chomping baldie is going to save their home and get them a good paying job.


  124. linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:

    O/T sort of, but did anyone hear Hannity this afternoon? He was going off on a tangent about how the Democrats “targeted” Massa because he was a “no” vote on the hcr bill and how “corrupt” the DEmocrats were, yadda yadda yadda..


  125. What the GOP REALLY means ... says:

    I choose to ignore that fact and INSIST that apple-pie is an AMERICAN dish because I have a narrative to save! Don’t bring up Costa Rica either!


  126. linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:

    Poor Hannity..He was also spouting the usual lies about HCR..”Medicare being cut” “Premiums going up” “Taxes going up”, blah blah blah…


  127. Xisithrus says:

    Reagan and Cheney said deficits dont matter.


  128. linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:

    Hannity was also praising the tea party movement, calling it a “grassroots” movement..Ha!


  129. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Xisithrus says:

    Reagan and Cheney said deficits dont matter.

    I find it truly astonishing at how many ‘fiscal conservatives’ never batted an eye whilst the Retarded Texan™ started two wars he couldn’t finish and CUT TAXES at the same time, and incidentally also grew the Fed govt at the greatest rate since WW II…

    While setting a Personal Best™ for POTUSes for vacation time, to boot…

    And now? Nothing but nonstop Chilled… White… Whine…


  130. Xisithrus says:

    Political opponents chided his policies as “Trickle-down economics,”[19] due to the significant cuts in the upper tax brackets. There was a massive increase in Cold War related defense spending that caused large budget deficits,[20] the U.S. trade deficit expansion,[20] and contributed to the Savings and Loan crisis,[21] In order to cover new federal budget deficits, the United States borrowed heavily both domestically and abroad, raising the national debt from $700 billion to $3 trillion,[22] and the United States moved from being the world’s largest international creditor to the world’s largest debtor nation

    Chew on that for a minute “Barack”


  131. What the GOP REALLY means ... says:

    I was hoping you wouldn’t find it. It’s been their best month in sales yet, the order I placed for my trolls’ uniforms and all.


  132. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Liberals will spend all the money you bring in in taxes and another few hundred billion a month on top of that.

    And yet Republican Presidents are responsible for the overwhelming percentage of the current Federal debt.

    Try again…


  133. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Lefty Liberal says:

    You are a f**king jackass.

    He knows that.

    He’s not interesterd in the truth, or solutions.

    He’s either a blind ideologue, a paid shill, or a mindless tweaker.

    Serious about politics… not so much.

    I vote for mindless tweaker…


  134. Xisithrus says:

    The fact of the matter ‘Barack’ is the problem we face today began some time ago with debt based economics. The deficits, of course, are piling up. I dont know who or what party is responsible for the inane idea that we could somehow borrow money indefinitely. I would think its the financial wise guys who came up with this innovative ‘risk averse’ crap for maximum profits which robs the wealth of the people. I do know your comments dont offer any solutions and are just, as pundits do, laying blame for political purposes.


  135. Xisithrus says:

    Barrack says: The truth is we are running 220 billion dollar a month deficits and that is without socialized medicine.

    BS. The private insurance folks already get subisidies for high risk [read rescission] insuance pools.


  136. What the GOP REALLY means ... says:

    ‘Barack’ is doing his Karl Rove math again. We all have to climb his mountain. The whiny brat says it’s $220 billion and no fact-checking will change it.

    Just to put it out there (again), Republicans love to spend just as much as democrats, in fact they spend more. It’s comes down to a battle of priorities, and the fact that republicans don’t care to see it in the context of a severe recession of their making because we’re just a nation of whiners, after all.


  137. linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:

    @187 How? And please don’t say “tort reform”..
    I’ve heard that nonstop from my family and frankly, it’s getting really annoying.


  138. linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:

  139. P.D. says:

    Dear Lord, there is nothing worse than a troll who spouts out Limpballs talking points. Hey, if we are lucky, the troll will flee the Country with Rushbo when the Bill passes!


  140. What the GOP REALLY means ... says:

    Grow the economy by not spending.

    Hmm ..

    Quick, everyone throw away their wallets!


  141. Xisithrus says:

    Barrack says: You can reform health insurance without nationalizing healthcare.

    The reform is about insurance not about nationalizing health care. I really wish people would stop swallowing the Luntzian framing here.

    As a long-time Anthem Blue Cross customer, my insurance increased 400 percent since 2000. For 15 years, my wife and I jockeyed our budget to afford the increases. Neither of us have serious medical problems; we’re in good health and rarely go to the doctor. -=Don Monkerud=-

    400% percent in 10 years ‘Barack’ What was inflation last year -04%? The average inflation I think is about 4% +-


  142. linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:

    drhunt1 says:

    ——————————————————————————–

    #188 Lefty-so the Greek economic demise has nothing to do with the Unions and over-bloated spending? Is that what you’re suggesting?

    Oh sweet Jeebus..The only reason that Greece is doing so badly right now is because they listened to Goldman Sachs and made a ton of risky loans..Unions and “over-bloated” spending have absolutely nothing to do with their present situation.


  143. What the GOP REALLY means ... says:

    Where’s you track record, subordinates? For all your confident voodoo talk, you’ve yet to match a democratic administration in job growth, the stock market, etc.


  144. Xisithrus says:

    Barrack says: Greece is where the U.S will be after another two years of this leftwing stupidity.

    Your good at talking points but as I posted above we became a debtor nation decades ago [Reagans time] and what you should stop doing is looking at things financial thru left and right blinders as it obfuscates the issue and provides cover for continuing the same failed ‘borrow and debt’ foolishness.


  145. What the GOP REALLY means ... says:

  146. linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:

    @204
    HSA’s? Jeebus, not very many employers offer them..Also higher income earners will naturally be able to set aside more money in their accounts for health expenses..Also HSA’s are an effin pain in the butt, because not only do you have to keep track of your health-related expenses, you have to file them at the end of the year and claim the entire amount in your account, otherwise it’s counted as taxable income..


  147. glamourdammerung says:

    What exactly does “dr”hunt’s uninformed opinion about Greece have to do with Afghanistan, Massa, or anything in the topic?


  148. Fred ♪♫♪ says:

    #197 Lefty wrote:”The only people that tort reform helps are the grossly incompetent doctors and the insurance companies that insure them.”

    drhunt1 says:
    I nominate this post as the most ignorant of the day…truly an academy award winning performance in the head/sand/stick category.

    I nominate your response to it for that honor.

    Why would a free market person suggest such socialist pracitices as this?

    For that is all it is, a way out of responsibility.

    The court system is established as the American way to resolve these problems.

    If doctors did not allow the same doctors to committ repeated offenses on patients, thier insurance and lawsuits would be reduced.

    personal responsiblitly baby.


  149. What the GOP REALLY means ... says:

    Lefty Liberal, with your insults against mine and my trolls’ fashion, you are getting on my last republican nerve. I will call you a buttface before the end of tonight’s session if you keep this up.


  150. P.D. says:

    @206, Don’t flatter yourself, pal. I would NEVER listen to Limpballs. I get my news from all different sources. I would rather put a gun to head then listen to Rushbo or Becky. I wouldn’t want to melt my brain.


  151. Xisithrus says:

    Barrack says: You run health insurance the way you run car insurance. No limits on the number of companies that can sell insurance in states.

    Thats what we have been saying for a long time there is not enough competition.


  152. linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:

    @212
    I think he’s clueless about more than just insurance..


  153. Fred ♪♫♪ says:

    drhunt1 says:
    Sound familiar…too much spending…too big a government…too many union workers on the dole…

    Thier mistake was following America’s lead into speculation and money made by paper changing hands and no work or production. Nothing more.

    Same problem Italy is having with the collapse of it’s pension program after they privitized it along the lines of what bush suggested for America.

    Thank dog Americans rejected that ridiculous notion.


  154. Xisithrus says:

    I doubt the workforce that are unions are more than 3-5% in Greece.


  155. What the GOP REALLY means ... says:

    drhunt, the largest single government department in the country is the U.S. Department of Defense. Greece what?


  156. Fred ♪♫♪ says:

    drhunt1 says:
    What?! ROFLMAO! No….you couldn’t POSSIBLY be serious about that…could you? OMG…

    The proven liar, dr runt seems to have devolved into a puddle of ignorant. He has been proven to be a liar and yet he persists.

    Only a fool would think he would ever again be taken seriously.

    I don’t. I find him to be amusing in his hyena stage.


  157. Xisithrus says:

    Did yall read where the FDIC wants pension funds to buy failed banks? Terrible idea. Especially after many pension funds lost many millions by investing in toxic SIV crap wall street peddled.


  158. What the GOP REALLY means ... says:

    : /

    My last republican nerve, Lefty Liberal.


  159. Fred ♪♫♪ says:

    drhunt1 says:
    so if you never listen to Rush, then how do you know I’m mimicking his talking points?

    Because you are a liar. It’s really simple.


  160. Fred ♪♫♪ says:

    Barrack says:
    So how long to we have to wait before Obama gets the monthly deficit down to 100 billion?

    Here’s another cutie pie, walking around the room with his camo panties around his ankles begging someone to finger him.

    If you slept through the spending spree of the bush admin, why don’t you just go back to sleep honey?


  161. Xisithrus says:

    Barrack says: So how long to we have to wait before Obama gets the monthly deficit down to 100 billion

    Your not worth debating with, to me, if you cant get that partisan log out of your eye. Google Free Republic and enjoy your time there.


  162. What the GOP REALLY means ... says:

    It’ll happen when you red staters are prepared to make some sacrifices, since you’re the greatest beneficiaries of federal spending.


  163. Fred ♪♫♪ says:

    oh great, runt links to a right wing business op ed piece as if it meant anything in the real world.

    runt, why don’t you just read the funny papers? You would be just as well informed honey.


  164. What the GOP REALLY means ... says:

    I betcha junk medical lawsuits ™ are causing so many banruptices in the U.S.


  165. Fred ♪♫♪ says:

    Barrack seems to think that spending money on Americans is the same as pouring it down a rat hole called halliburton.

    what the right fears is the inevitable return of the economy to positive numbers and it’s already headed in that direction.

    be afraid righties, you lose if we succeed and we will.


  166. glamourdammerung says:

    #241 reported for non-topic spam by previously banned user.

    Comment about how I am ignorant since I do not caring about random guy on the internet’s blog in 3…2..


  167. Fred ♪♫♪ says:

    The Medical Malpractice Myth
    http://www.slate.com/id/2145400/

    harvard study:
    http://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/press-releases/2006-releases/press05102006.html
    The researchers analyzed past malpractice claims to judge the volume of meritless lawsuits and determine their outcomes. Their findings suggest that portraits of a malpractice system riddled with frivolous lawsuits are overblown.

    Yes, overblown and for a reason. So they can justify raping Americans.


  168. Fred ♪♫♪ says:

    U.S. has the most new medicines in world, spends more of GDP on medicine than any other nation, and yet has the highest rates of cancers for at least 10 cancer types and the highest infant mortality rate of all developed nations.


  169. Xisithrus says:

    Mish didnt divulge the number of union workers in Greece doc. And I dont really blame the workers as this austerity is being pushed by the bankers. They are being punished for agreements the government made IE loans in return for airport landing fees and other such revenue.


  170. Right Wing Dystopia says:

    (62% of bankruptcies have a medical cause, according to the American Journal of Medicine.)

    Tort reform. Stupid.

    Same thing


  171. What the GOP REALLY means ... says:

    I’ve got plenty of sympathy for George Bush because he didn’t grow government by the larget percentage since WWII. He didn’t bail the banks out by $3 trillion either. He simply saved our money and cleared our brush. By all means prop up George Bush’s legacy on the campaign trail!


  172. HighPlainsJoker says:

    Lots of blasts at CNN, but some of you are missing one of the finest telejouralists, or whatever we want to call then, in Fareed Zarkaria. He asks very pertinent questions, does not back away from hard followup questions, and is intellectual, in any number of way that you want to describe it. GPS, listen to him…


  173. Xisithrus says:

    > > > Look, over there Freeperville > > > Run!


  174. linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:

    @256
    Here’s one way to end malpractice lawsuits- take away the licenses of incompetent doctors!


  175. The Republic of Stupidity says:

    Fred ♪♫♪ says:

    U.S. has the most new medicines in world, spends more of GDP on medicine than any other nation, and yet has the highest rates of cancers for at least 10 cancer types and the highest infant mortality rate of all developed nations.

    Woo hoo!!!

    In your face, the rest of the world!!!

    We’re no 1! We’re no 1! We’re no 1! We’re no 1!

    Uh… waitaminite… uh… higest rates of cancer?

    Highest infant mortality rates?

    Hmmmmmmm… gotta go think this over… be back in sec…


  176. Fred ♪♫♪ says:

    Try to take a republicans social security from him. This is what they fear. A program that works. Health care needs to be fixed because it is broken.

    If you think this is over you are sadly mistaken. Every day more Americans are being forced to wake up to the realities while republicans do what they always do, try to take us back to the stone ages.

    Some interesting quotes from the past by doom and gloomer republicans:

    Regarding President Clintons economic stimulus package

    Rep. Robert Michel (R-IL), Los Angeles Times, 5/28/93:
    They will remember who let loose this deadly virus into our economic bloodstream.

    Rep. Newt Gingrich (R-GA), GOP Press Conference, House TV Gallery, 8/5/93: I believe this will lead to a recession next year. This is the Democrat machine’s recession, and each one of them will be held personally accountable.

    Regarding Medicare

    Rep. Tim Lee Carter (R-KY), 4/65: As one of the last country doctors… I ask my colleagues to vote to recommit… a bill which will within a few years cruelly overburden the Social Security System and the young workers with growing families, who will be forced to pay higher Social Security taxes.

    Rep. Durward Hall (R-MO), 4/8/65: …we cannot stand idly by now, as the Nation is urged to embark on an ill-conceived adventure in government medicine, the end of which no one can see, and from which the patient is certain to be the ultimate sufferer.

    Regarding Social Security

    Rep. John Taber (R-NY), 4/19/35: Never in the history of the world has any measure been brought here so insidiously designed as to prevent business recovery, to enslave workers and to prevent any possibility of the employers providing work for the people.

    Rep. Daniel Reed (R-NY), 1935: The lash of the dictator will be felt and 25 million free American citizens will for the first time submit themselves to a fingerprint test.

    Rep. James W. Wadsworth (R-NY), 1935: This bill opens the door and invites the entrance into the political field of a power so vast, so powerful as to threaten the integrity of our institutions and to pull the pillars of the temple down upon the heads of our descendants.


  177. What the GOP REALLY means ... says:

    Goodnight Lefty Liberal the inspirational blogger!


  178. Xisithrus says:

    The new budgetary measures, the third in recent months, include cutting public sector bonuses by 30 per cent, freezing pensions, a new tax on luxury goods, alcohol and cigarettes and increasing consumer taxes – including a 21 per cent sales tax.

    The bankers want to raise taxes and the unions are protesting. Here in America they would be called TEA partiers.


  179. Fred ♪♫♪ says:

    drhunt1 says:
    #250 Fred-ahhh…errrr, uhhh…TORT reform is about pain and suffering judgements by juries, above and beyond the medical malpractice judgement

    uhh..errr, no it’s not. It’s about giving bad doctors a free ride.


  180. linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:

    @258
    *shakes head in bewilderment*


  181. Right Wing Dystopia says:

    Forty states have enacted tort reform laws limiting pain and suffering, restricting joint and severability, etc.

    Most savings that might result from tort reforms have already been felt, according to a letter sent to Orin Hatch in the fall of 2008.

    Tort reform. Lazy.

    Same thing


  182. linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:

    @268
    My state, Virginia is one of the 40 states that have tort limits…It hasn’t really done a whole lot.


  183. Fred ♪♫♪ says:

    Barrack says:

    What’s happening in the developed world today isn’t so very hard to understand:

    and then he goes on a rant about the welfare state being responsible for all that ails any country as if the bush admin had never existed.

    daffy duck, is that you?


  184. Xisithrus says:

    Why isnt the right wing supporting those Greeks facing tax increases?


  185. What the GOP REALLY means ... says:

    linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:

    @256
    Here’s one way to end malpractice lawsuits- take away the licenses of incompetent doctors!

    Snap – that was to the point! I’m sorry I ever called you a buttface!


  186. P.D. says:

    Wow, it’s late my friends. Goodnight my TP Brethren. See you on the morn…


  187. Fred ♪♫♪ says:

    drhunt1 says:
    linzloo-and who is to decide who’s incompetent or not

    We’re not in nazi germany runt. This is America. Jury’s decide based on evidence presented.


  188. Right Wing Dystopia says:

    Greece suffers from eurozone dynamics that go beyond their bloated debt.

    Specifically, some of their neighbors to the north are uniquely exporting countries; Germany and the Netherlands, to name a couple. Southern Euro-States (Italy, Greece, Spain) have few, if any, markets to absorb their production.

    But blaming the unions is the easiest way to pretend one knows what one is talking about.


  189. Fred ♪♫♪ says:

    drhunt1 says:
    Does your doctor know how you feel about this issue? Why don’t you ask him/her if they ever have made a mistake in their careers and do they think they should have had their pants/skirts sued off for that?

    We aren’t talking about first time offenders here honey. They get to do it again and again. That’s where it becomes punitive as well it should.

    If you socialized medicine in America, this problem would go away.


  190. linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:

    Comment 224 flagged for spam.


  191. Fred ♪♫♪ says:

    drhunt1 says:
    Right Wing-the MAIN reason TORT reform isn’t discussed by the Dems, is because the trial lawyers donate to them heavily.

    There are plenty of right wing trial lawyers honey.

    That dog won’t hunt.

    It’s because it’s not justice. Of course you nazi’s aren’t interested in such trivia as that.


  192. Fred ♪♫♪ says:

    Barrack says:
    Austerity programs never work

    See Bill Clinton. He raised taxes on the rich and cut the defense budget. The very definition of an auterity program:

    In economics, austerity is when a government reduces its spending and/or increases user fees


  193. dbadass says:

    and the tree of liberty…


  194. OutstandingInMyField, sponsored by big Ag says:

    It seems to me that tort reform could have been best accomplished by doing something that was suggested in the beginning of the current reform debate, the establishment of guidelines for treatment based on the outcomes experienced by real patients. I think the concept was trashed by those who used it to advance their rationing fears, but if we codified tratment standards based on outcomes, doctors would have an accepted standard to judge their own decisions against. I would think that would make it easier to seperate incompetence from bad luck.


  195. Fred ♪♫♪ says:

    drhunt1 says:
    Fred-you have NO idea what you’re talking about…really. Are you jst throwing stuff out there in order to engage me…

    I’m really just making fun of your ignorance. You bring no facts to the table and are a renouned liar.

    I don’t engage you so much as ridicule you. I find your self-pidgeonholing to be amusing, especially since there is so much crap in your particular hole.


  196. What the GOP REALLY means ... says:

    I’m glad they donate to the democratic party. You think we should be ashamed about a patient’s ability to seek redress if a doctor screws up? Nope. You fail to back your claims as to draw a distinction between frivilous and legit claims. You republicans can have your shoddy doctors.


  197. Right Wing Dystopia says:

    @278

    Forty states have enacted tort reform laws limiting pain and suffering, restricting joint and severability, etc.

    Most savings that might result from tort reforms have already been felt, according to an OMB letter sent to Orin Hatch in the fall of 2008.

    In the aftermath of Texas’ tort reform laws, medical insurance premiums increased YoY at a rate 11% higher than rate increases preceding the reforms.

    The rationale given by some reformistas is that, sure, rates have gone up but more people have access (if you live in an urban area) to care than before because doctors are less reticent to practice.

    Tort reform. Lazy.

    Same thing. Do it. See if I care. It won’t solve a fkn thing.

    But that’s the GOP way. Easy, populist solutions.

    Chicken soup, anyone?


  198. linzloo08 brought to you by I Want My Country Back, Inc.!! says:

    Ok goodnight everybody!
    And a big STFU to dr demented and Bowacko!!


  199. Xisithrus says:

    Its just bizzaro. Over here we have debt and many are calling for tax cuts yet over in Greece they have debt and the same folks here are saying that they in Greece should pay more taxes.

    BiZzZzzZzZzZaro


  200. OutstandingInMyField, sponsored by big Ag says:

    Barrack says:
    Austerity programs never work

    Please tell me this is untrue! My whole family has been on an austerity program ever since the failure of that whole trickle down thing, and we were so counting on that to make it possible for us to pull ourselves up by our own bootstraps.


  201. What the GOP REALLY means ... says:

    You’re always a wonderful crowd! Goodnight!

    Lights out, subordinates. Weekly pantie change occurs in the morn.


  202. Xisithrus says:

    I know lets build lots and lots of houses and skyscapers with millions of feet of office space that always grows the economy…well till it implodes.


  203. dbadass says:

    and huge cuts in government programs to cut the deficit which caused the economic collapse.

    Weren’t you n itching about failed programs earlier and the need to cut them?


  204. Fred ♪♫♪ says:

    runt, he also said it’s not a solution and that’s the problem.

    You can claim a win if you need bragging rights but that’s just you being the child behind the monitor.

    I really don’t give a f uck what you think.

    You’re an idiot who doesn’t have a clue.


  205. Xisithrus says:

    The AAJ is the trial lawyers’ Washington lobbying group, and 90 percent of its $30.7 million in contributions since 1989 went to Democrats

    The conservative federalists on the SCoTuS say its all good.


  206. Fred ♪♫♪ says:

    Barrack says:
    Fred certainly forgets a lot. Clinton economics failed until they cut captial gains taxes in 1995 and passed NAFTA.

    Oh, that must be it……you’re joking or ignorant or in denial.

    Why is it that no republican has ever balanced a budget or reduced the deficit honey? Eva.


  207. glamourdammerung says:

    drhunt1 says:
    you should just call it a night and keep your powder dry for another battle on another topic…as it’s PLAINLY obvious this one isn’t your ‘cup-o-tea’.

    I would say none of the topics that have appeared on this site seem to be your “cup of tea” as I have yet to see you ever be on topic. Instead you just spew random talking points, spam, and general foolishness.


  208. Xisithrus says:

    Weren’t you n itching about failed programs earlier and the need to cut them -=DBA=-

    I think that poster is blind to its own hipocrisy and its why I quit typing to them


  209. dbadass says:

    It is even better if you just give the money to the poets and painters, playwrights, and pianists…


  210. glamourdammerung says:

    Barrack says:

    If you have a sixty year plus welfare state you can’t abolish it in one year. You phase it out by transfering the money wasted on the non producers (government programs)by getting the money into the hands of the producers (job creators).

    I find it odd to consider the work of Halliburton, Blackwater, Enron, Wackenhut, etc. as “successful”.


  211. Fred ♪♫♪ says:

    Barrack says:
    You can cut them if you are transfering the savings to the people through tax cuts. Cutting them and raising taxes at the same time makes no economic sense. It leads to unemployment

    honey, tax cuts didn’t create jobs under bush and lowering taxes on exxon caused them to lay off 60,000 employees the same year they posted a record profit.

    It’s a lie but you flatly refuse to see truth.


  212. dbadass says:

    What is the measure of a man….


  213. Fred ♪♫♪ says:

    Barrack says:
    The GOP congress balanced the budget and reduced the deficit from 1995 to 2000. Dwight Eisenhower had balanced budgets.

    Two lies, back to back. You’re almost as big a liar as dr runt.

    congress doesn’t balance budgets honey and dwight did no such thing.


  214. Xisithrus says:

    So why hasnt all this privatization [giving money to 'producers'], I am wondering to myself, created jobs and reduced deficits over the last decade+?


  215. Fred ♪♫♪ says:

    whoop, you were right about Ike, but by todays standards, he was a democrat.


  216. dbadass says:

    I am wondering to myself, created jobs and reduced deficits over the last decade+?

    Well it is sort of complicated… Oh look a flag pin…


  217. glamourdammerung says:

    Barrack says:
    The GOP congress balanced the budget and reduced the deficit from 1995 to 2000. Dwight Eisenhower had balanced budgets.

    Not quite accurate. Eisenhower had one year of balanced budgets, and Clinton’s were 1998 to 2001.

    I notice you missed LBJ. And that Eisenhower did not want to cut taxes until the budget was balanced (though he still kept the Republican trend of recessions under Republican adminstrations going).


  218. Xisithrus says:

    Why dont anti-tax trolls, I am asking myself, support the anti-tax protestors in Greece?


  219. glamourdammerung says:

    Barrack says:
    Why does Obama want the United States to be like Greece?

    Would you like to moan and cry about Obama’s tepid response to the unicorn threat while you are working on strawmen there?


  220. dbadass says:

    Hey some of those unicorns can get mighty onrey…


  221. OutstandingInMyField, sponsored by big Ag says:

    Barrack says:
    Why does Obama want the United States to be like Greece?

    Well I’ve never heard this before, but if I had to guess I’d say for the classic architecture and that really good cucumber sauce,


  222. dbadass says:

    How come all these folks concerned about defecits won’t poney up a few bucks to make an honest down payment on our debt?


  223. glamourdammerung says:

    Barrack says:
    I wish we had done some privitization over the last eight years. But we didn’t

    You lie.


  224. dbadass says:

    really good cucumber sauce

    tzeeki, tziiki, tizzeeki, how the hell do you spell that?


  225. dbadass says:

    In addition, megachurch televangelists will hold deficit reduction revivals and will not skim a dime.


  226. OutstandingInMyField, sponsored by big Ag says:

    Tzatziki..I know, it does sound a bit like Turkish porn.


  227. dbadass says:

    Just keep whining, an adult at the table will pay the tab and leave a 20% tip. If you wanna split the check go to Friendlys….


  228. ebbAndflow says:

    Plato said it best:

    “Wise men speak because they have something to say; Fools (like “Barrack”, & ‘dr’) because they have to say something.”



  229. just the bleepn facts says:

    patrick5 says:
    That Lilly Scott is one hot hippie chick, right dog?

    You hoping she’s packing a d!ck so you can pretend to be “straight” d**chebag?


  230. DallasNE says:

    Will CNN issue an apology for Crowley’s remarks like they recently had to do for some remarks Wolf Blitzer made. And will CNN tire of these kinds of intemperate remarks and actually do something about it — like bring in some fresh blood that isn’t in the hip pocket of the GOP. I won’t hold my breath.


  231. had enough says:

    Greece’s crisis

    Is America next?

    Could we prevent this by stopping the raping of the corporate masters? In the areas of defense, health care and any other place they can worm their way into?


  232. bizarrobrain (brought to you by The Citadel of Satanic Kitten Worship and Tidy Cat) says:

    had enough says:

    Greece’s crisis

    Is America next?

    Could we prevent this by stopping the raping of the corporate masters? In the areas of defense, health care and any other place they can worm their way into?


    If all Americans thought like the republicans I’d say “no” on cutting off corporate from worming its way into our politics and making the US go from “We the People” to “We the Sponsors.”

    I don’t think America will collapse into financial ruin or chaos tomorrow, or next week or within the next few years. But with attitudes like those from the right, the MSM, the blue dogs, some of the more lazy or self-absorbed democrats, and the big shots in corporate it will defenitly speed things up. We need more democrats who are in favor of regulating/reforming parts of our defense system, health care system, education system, etc. And we need Republicans to either pass legislation or get the f**k of office if they’re only there to obstruct, rant about the inane, lie and grease their palms. This is just a small portion of the stuff that the people of this country and to hear politicians from both sides rallying against either or being lackluster (either because they’re spineless or bought off) in their approach to pass something is just sickening. Is it possible to boot our reps. from office for not doing their jobs like a large portion of the Republicans and some of the Democrats have been doing? Call it a don’t work, don’t show up program.

    And our politicians and the MSM sometimes make it seem like America, as a power has peaked. The climb to the peak has been brisk and relatively speedy. The loss of power and influence, leading to disintegration, can be fast or slow. The British Empire disappeared overnight. Rome declined over about 250 years until she collapsed in the West. The Eastern part of the Roman Empire got fresh wind and lasted until its pitiful remains collapsed in 1453. Its energies had been sapped by religious infighting (we have political infighting that intermixes with religion), the 4th Crusade (kinda like the wars now) and just internal exhaustion (I guess you could call our political discourse).

    Sorry this turned into more of a more of a rant than an economics answer.


  233. delafield says:

    Let’s talk instead about Senator David Vitter (R-Diaperboy), Senator John Ensign (R-Wants to pork all of his coworker’s wives), Governor Mark Sanford (R-Don’t cry for me Argentina), Senator Larry Craig (R-Toe tapper with a wide stance), and right wing preacher Ted Haggard (R-Gay gaybasher).


  234. Quizmos says:

    And where was this pig turned gaunt from CNN when David Vitter, Mark Foley, Ted Haggart, Larry Craig, Mark Sanford, John Ensign, etc., etc. were in the news? Covering Iraq. Support out troops? Not this slob!


  235. Perry logan says:

    I recommend ThinkProgress eliminate the “vote down” option on comments.

    You don’t have to be a psychologist to see that hiding what these folks say only makes everyone curious to see what they said. It’s a guaranteed troll-feeder. Eliminating the option would probably reduce troll traffic by 50%.

    The REAL cause of our problems: Who the Hell’s a Moderate?


  236. vinylspear, sponsored by Sunless Tanning Solutions says:

    I agree Perry.
    It has nothing to do with Karma.
    It’s a troll spite tool and not much more.

    Moderation would be nice too.


  237. vinylspear, sponsored by Sunless Tanning Solutions says:

    A little research shows the “privacy center” crapping all over any board they can get to.
    We are not the sole recipient of its blathering uselessness.

    The address shows a Turks and Caicos islands server.


  238. Pennsylvanianne says:

    Candy Crowley’s comment is about as cynical a comment as I have ever heard from the MSM. No wonder people are disgusted with the media. Kennedy is right: we’re talking about people’s lives and a million dollars a day expended in Afghanistan, and the MSM is more interested in the sex life of an ex-Congressman. The media is more aghast at sex than violence, which is a sad commentary on our times.


  239. Xisithrus says:

    OT: Maybe it will make the TF thread::

    AUSTIN — The Texas Education Agency lashed out Wednesday at the Fox Network for “highly inaccurate” reports about the State Board of Education and its work on social studies curriculum standards.

    The TEA, in a news release, cited a half dozen errors in a March 10 broadcast of Fox & Friends, such as Texas proposing only to teach U.S. history from 1877 to the present.


  240. USNclerk says:

    @342. If only more people would lash out at FOX, they might make a half-assed attempt at telling the truth.


  241. USNclerk says:

    OT: As I read this thread I have to comment, I believe we’re seeing an evolution of “What the GOP really means”.


  242. spiffypants says:

    #210

    We became a debtor nation long before Reagan. 1913 is when the Federal Reserve was enacted. They set the economic policy in this country, not the puppet presidents. If we want to get a grip on the deficit and over spending, the first place to start is to audit the Federal Reserve, the PRIVATE bank that sets our economic policies.

    “Most Americans have no real understanding of the operation of the international money lenders. The accounts of the Federal Reserve System have never been audited. It operates outside the control of Congress and manipulates the credit of the United States” — Sen. Barry Goldwater (Rep. AZ)

    “This [Federal Reserve Act] establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the President[Wilson} signs this bill, the invisible government of the monetary power will be legalized….the worst legislative crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking and currency bill.”
    — Charles A. Lindbergh, Sr. , 1913

    “From now on, depressions will be scientifically created.” — Congressman Charles A. Lindbergh Sr. , 1913

    “The financial system has been turned over to the Federal Reserve Board. That Board administers the finance system by authority of a purely profiteering group. The system is Private, conducted for the sole purpose of obtaining the greatest possible profits from the use of other people’s money” — Charles A. Lindbergh Sr., 1923

    “The Federal Reserve bank buys government bonds without one penny…”
    — Congressman Wright Patman, Congressional Record, Sept 30, 1941


  243. barfly says:

    Your failure to recognize failed economic policies is your undoing…

    The failed economic policies were Bush’s – and you seem to struggle with that fact. If Bush’s policies of low reulation/low taxes had worked, we wouldn’t be in this mess. But your hyperpartisan worldview only allows you to acknowledge democratic failures.

    You never mention Bush’s off budget spending. I wonder why? Not really.


  244. BlaineNelson says:

    Did Democrats debate Afghanistan exit strategy to make the Massa story go away?

    Vote


  245. angels81 says:

    Well, what a wonderful little rant by our fake doctor, full of opinions, but no facts. The fake doctor, using a broad brush to blame all the worlds ills on progressives, is the act of a small uneducated mind, who is to lazy or just plain to stupid to look at the big picture and let facts tell the real story as to how the world economy works or hasn’t worked.

    All the fake doctor has done is push more political propaganda, and has missed what really has happened to the world economy,and who the real players have been.


  246. angels81 says:

    Fake doctor,

    after a quick reading of the Romney post, your arguments were shot down very quickly, there is no need to go over all that again.


  247. angels81 says:

    Fake doctor,

    I don’t come here to educate you or debate you. Like I have said before, you are a proven lair (by your own words)and not man enough to own up to it. Why would I waste my time debating someone like that?


  248. Insidious Prophet says:

    drhunt1/aaronk says:
    ————————————————————
    Do you needed to be schooled again on the FED?

    Republican senator Nelson Aldrich along with republican bankers and wealthy republican businessmen such as Paul Warburg, John Rockefeller, JP Morgan, Abraham Andrew, Frank Vanderlip, Henry Davison, Charles Norton & Benjamin Strong were behind the creation of the Federal Reserve Banking System.

    You dumb asses on the right can fault FDR’s ‘New Deal’ all you want but it helped put this country back on it’s feet while programs like the CCC gave many Americans jobs. So go ahead and blame FDR all you want but don’t forget who were the presidents before the Great Depression hit our country.

    The policies and deregulation pushed by republicans in the mid to late 1920’s are the same type of policies pushed by republicans from 1994-the present.


  249. Insidious Prophet says:

    Dr.Runt/aaronk, if the republicans don’t like medicare why didn’t they get rid of it when they were in power?

    If you want to point fingers as to which party has hurt this country and the American worker look no further than Ronald Reagan.


  250. Insidious Prophet says:

    BlaineNelson says:

    Did Democrats debate Afghanistan exit strategy to make the Massa story go away?
    ———————————————————-
    No they debated the Afghanistan exit strategy because congressman Dennis Kucinich brought a resolution to the floor of the house, something he has been working on for some time.

    Republicans are trying to spin the Massa thing as some sort of evidence to demonize the health care plan and the use of reconciliation by the democrats. As seen on Glen Beck, the Massa story is a big non story.

    EPIC FAIL BY BECK AND THE REPUBLICANS TO TRY AND SPIN THE MASSA STORY!


  251. Insidious Prophet says:

    aaronk, I’m not going to waste anymore time with a piece of sh*t like you who uses multiple names in order to throw tantrums, get a phucking life you worthless piece of crap!


  252. angels81 says:

    Fake doctor,

    hows those degree’s working out that you got at UC@Davis?


  253. angels81 says:

    Fake doctor,

    I have a lot of friends who went to UCDavis, and they want me to ask you, were the hell is UC@Davis? What state is it in?


  254. angels81 says:

    Fake doctor,

    what part of, “I don’t debate lairs” didn’t you get? I’ll make fun of you for the troll you are, but debate you? nah.


  255. rmwarnick says:

    The on-budget cost of the war in Afghanistan is up to $345 billion, not $3 billion. Anyway, didn’t Rep. Kucinich get a chance to speak? Was Kennedy’s attack on the media itself a strategy to divert substantive discussion about the longest war in American history?


  256. spiffypants says:

    367

    Kucinich did get a chance to speak. I am trying to find the transcript.


  257. tarazan says:

    Crowley is a typical CNN reporter…
    That’s why they kept her for a long time.
    Few days ago, while using my remote control I was switching from one tv. channel to another, here I saw Crowley interviewing Tom Delay.
    While he was bashing Democrats, she was just smiling and happy to have him on her show,although Tom Delay is conidered a political history, with shady history,CNN brought him to get his advice on the latest.
    An advice of a guy who was indicted in October of 2005 by a grand jury in Texas.
    Congressman Kennedy was right to scream with regard to the media of today which are avoiding true stories but chasing fluff stories instead ,using enabling reporters like Crowley.


  258. spiffypants says:

    Here’s the final vote. A bipartisan support to kill the resolution. Proving once again that neither party is serious about ending the warfare state and intrusive foreign policy.

    http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2010/roll098.xml


  259. glamourdammerung says:

    drhunt1 says:

    angels81-that’s the second time you’ve mispelled liar…I didn’t mention it the first time, as we all make typo errors…but twice? Now it’s a trend…of ignorance?

    I remember this one troll that lied about being a doctor that cried about me “nitpicking” when I pointed out their inability to spell “hypocrite”.

    Also, I think it is great that you are cowering from me.


  260. RayFerd (sponsored by Morningwood Academy Boys School) says:

    drhunt1 says:

    angels81-that’s the second time you’ve mispelled liar…

    Maybe angel considers you a hidey hole for furry animals. Wonder what they use as an entrance?


  261. blood1 says:

    Crowley’s inability to evaluate which is more important: Massa v. Afganistan is just one more reason to stop watching CNN. CNN spent a great deal of time on Sunday waxing poetically about an undocumented capture of an American/Taliban. They went on and on, knowing that it was unverified information, but tried to make it a fact.

    Sorry CNN, you lost another viewer. Crowley’s judgement is flawed as she races to the bottom. One wonders who’s self-full filling prophesy she is trying to cozy up to.


  262. pezmiztixs parole officer says:

  263. Fred ♪♫♪ says:


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