Gingrich Suggests Taking Out The Remaining ‘Axis Of Evil’ Members: ‘We’re One Out Of Three’
Gingrich Suggests Taking Out The Remaining ‘Axis Of Evil’ Members: ‘We’re One Out Of Three’
Yesterday, Newt Gingrich delivered a speech at AEI “drawing on the lessons” of socialist authors Albert Camus and George Orwell to attack the President Obama’s foreign policy and “describe the dangers of a wartime government that uses language and misleading labels to obscure reality.” CAP’s Brian Katulis notes in Politico that “Gingrich weighs in at a moment when the Republican Party is more divided on national security than it has been in decades.” One side advocates a more pragmatic approach to U.S. foreign policy and the other engages in “blustery, pugnacious nationalism that either clobbers other countries in efforts to remake them or walls them off from America.”
Yesterday at AEI, the blustery and pugnacious nationalistic side was on full display. At one point in the hour-long speech comprised of platitudes, attacks on Muslims, and false comparisons to wars past, Gingrich suggested that the U.S. needs to finish what President Bush started when he identified his “Axis of Evil” in January 2002:
GINGRICH: I believe he was right but in fact could not operationalize what he said. That is, there was an Axis of Evil, Iran, Iraq, North Korea. Well we’re one out of three. And people ought to think about that. If Bush was right in January of 2002 — and by the way virtually the entire Congress gave him a standing ovation when he said it — then why is it that the other two parts of the Axis of Evil are still visibly, cheerfully making nuclear weapons? And it’s because we’ve stood at brink, looked over and thought, “Too big a problem.”
“If Franklin Roosevelt had done that in ‘41, either the Japanese or the Germans would have won,” Gingrich said. The U.S. has to “over-match the problem,” he said, adding, “That’s what Americans are all about.” Watch it:
Writing about Gingrich’s recent tirades against Islam and unhinged opposition to a proposal to build a mosque in downtown Manhattan, the Wonk Room’s Matt Duss notes that “Gingrich obviously wants to be president very badly. But he really needs to think hard about the sort of rhetorical tactics he’s embracing, and the sort of sentiments he’s cultivating, and the sort of company he’s joining in order to achieve that.”
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You and who’s Army, Newtie?
July 30th, 2010 at 10:02 amYou and who’s Army, Newtie?
Xe
July 30th, 2010 at 10:06 amGingrich’s recent tirades against Islam and unhinged opposition to a proposal to build a mosque in downtown Manhattan
– - I think Gingrich has a point.
I re-read my home copy of the Constitution this morning and came across the first amendment which reads “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.” But based on Gingrichian logic, I figured this cannot be true because Saudi Arabia doesn’t allow for full freedom of religion, so therefore there is no way the United States can.
So I looked closer and closer at the Constitution until I noticed something: there was more text there, hidden with invisible ink. So I whipped up a batch of my homemade ink revealer (just like Nick Cage), applied it to the Constitution, and voila! there it was: a missing footnote that was hidden for centuries! It reads: “This amendment is only valid when Saudi Arabia and other Muslim nations recognize freedom of religion inside their own borders.”
Maybe Newt would also like us to adopt Saudi Arabia’s penalties for adultery.
July 30th, 2010 at 10:08 amWhat’s sad is that intellectually he defines about a third of the American electorate. Man, talk about a failed education system! Once Reagan got his hands on it, all was lost, and then came Dubsie. Poof. Ignorance became the national pastime.
July 30th, 2010 at 10:08 amLOL>>> think he is slowly losing his mind, or at lease what was once a mind.
yo newt pull your head out of your 4th point of contact, and you might be able to breath in some fresh and non stale air.
July 30th, 2010 at 10:09 ami know how you on the right love that stale air.
And who’s going to pay for it?
July 30th, 2010 at 10:09 amMaybe Newt would also like us to adopt Saudi Arabia’s penalties for adultery.
Newt pro’ly thinks you should get stoned, then commit adultery!
July 30th, 2010 at 10:11 amThe US committed War Crimes by illegally invading Iraq based on lies. Now the US is crawling out of a Recession, low Military and we are to just bomb North Korea and Iran because we call them Axis of Evil. The conduct by the US over the 8 year crime wave makes the United States the real Axis of Evil. We kidnapped innocent men/women/children, we held them and tortured them without charges we released 780 people saying all were innocent be we held them for 7 years anyway. We dropped so low we even tortured kids. Time to look in the mirror before lashing out at others. We don’t even take care of our own soldiers, as we ask them to put their lives on the line for the US then we treat them like trash if they make it home alive.
July 30th, 2010 at 10:12 amAnd who’s going to pay for it?
Nobody! That’s the beauty of the Bush War Spending Plan. Wars are funded with off-budget expenditures, thus those expenditures don’t increase the budget deficit. Not only that, but War spending is totally offset by tax cuts to the rich!
July 30th, 2010 at 10:14 amSpeaking of Orwell, Mr. Gingrich here are a few of my favorite quotes…funny and ironic how they apply directly to you and your neocon doosh-nozzles Krauthammer, Bolton, Kristol, your friends at FOX, Limbaugh etc. as well as those other failures Bush and Cheney:
“All the war-propaganda, all the screaming and lies and hatred, comes invariably from people who are not fighting.”
“Every war when it comes, or before it comes, is represented not as a war but as an act of self-defense against a homicidal maniac.”
“War against a foreign country only happens when the moneyed classes think they are going to profit from it.”
“War is a way of shattering to pieces, or pouring into the stratosphere, or sinking in the depths of the sea, materials which might otherwise be used to make the masses too comfortable, and hence, in the long run, too intelligent.”
GEORGE ORWELL
Newt you will NEVER be our President. Accept it once and for all. Your hate and fear works on a small demographic but most of America isn’t buying your pandering bullshit. You are a pseudo-intellectual much like that other tool Krauthammer. The mindless sheep on the right accept you idiots as their mind-trust and that’s as far as it goes. We saw right through you in 1994 and thankfully never looked back.
July 30th, 2010 at 10:15 amAt first glance, one might erroneously conclude there are plenty of brains in his enormous head.
July 30th, 2010 at 10:15 amYes let’s start two more wars with no support from the other countries, or money to pay for it.
Oh wait those wars will make his financiers rich and by proxy him.
July 30th, 2010 at 10:16 amNewt claims to be a historian. I guess that would be true if a historian is one knowledgable enough about past events to be able to misrepresent what really happened and why in order to promote an ideological agenda.
July 30th, 2010 at 10:18 amHis ‘use by” date has definitely passed.
July 30th, 2010 at 10:21 amNo. newt, america is not about running around looking for monsters to slay.
“{George] Washington at no point insinuates that the United States should resort to military force to secure access to allegedly strategic materials to bolster the nation’s economy, or to compel foreign nations to embrace free trade as opposed to mercantilism to boost economic growth.” There is no room in Washington’s foreign policy to wage wars for natural resources or to open global markets. “From 1776 to 1846, the United States economy flourished without the establishment of a single American military base on foreign soil,” [Bruce]Fein observes in answer to those who believe that only a global military presence can vouchsafe our prosperity.
“America goes not abroad, in search of monsters to destroy. She is the well-wisher to the freedom and independence of all. She is the champion and vindicator only of her own. . . She well knows that by once enlisting under other banners than her own, were they even the banners of foreign independence, she would involve herself beyond the power of extrication, in all the wars of interest and intrigue, of individual avarice, envy, and ambition, which assume the colors and usurp the standard of freedom.” -=John Adams=-
July 30th, 2010 at 10:23 amGINGRICH: …there was an Axis of Evil, Iran, Iraq, North Korea. Well we’re one out of three. And people ought to think about that.
Especially y’all peons, cuz you know Newtie ain’t sending any of his spawn into that sh!tstorm.
July 30th, 2010 at 10:25 amNewt has a point about what America is all about. I found a copy of HIS U.S. Constitution’s Preamble:
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Corporate bottom line, establish American Exceptionalism, insure domestic fear and subsequent dependency on the military-industrial complex, provide for the common offense, promote the Corporate Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Money to a select few and their Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
July 30th, 2010 at 10:28 amNice point guys on Newt’s wet dream of making the Bush Doctrine an acceptable and permanent option for a US President.
A few more choice quotes for pissant Newt:
“The provision of the Constitution giving the war-making power to Congress was dictated, as I understand it, by the following reasons. Kings had always been involving and impoverishing their people in wars, pretending generally, if not always, that the good of the people was the object. This, our Convention understood to be the most oppressive of all Kingly oppressions; and they resolved to so frame the Constitution that no one man should hold the power of bringing this oppression upon us.”
“Allow the president to invade a neighboring nation, whenever he shall deem it necessary to repel an invasion, and you allow him to do so whenever he may choose to say he deems it necessary for such a purpose—and you allow him to make war at pleasure”.
ABRAHAM LINCOLN
“We will not walk in fear, one of another. We will not be driven into an age of unreason if we dig deep into our history and remember we are not descended from fearful men.”
Edward R. Murrow
“Every ambitious would-be empire, clarions it abroad that she is conquering the world to bring it peace, security and freedom, and it is sacrificing her sons only for the most noble and humanitarian purposes. That is a lie; and it is an ancient lie, yet generations still rise and believe it.”
-Henry David Thoreau
“Wars throughout history have been waged for conquest and plunder…. the working class who fight all the battles, the working class who make the supreme sacrifices, the working class who freely shed their blood and furnish their corpses, have never yet had a voice in either declaring war or making peace. It is the ruling class that invariably does both. They alone declare war and they alone make peace….They are continually talking about their patriotic duty. It is not their but your patriotic duty that they are concerned about. There is a decided difference. Their patriotic duty never takes them to the firing line or chucks them into the trenches.”
-THE Eugene Debs
“The Constitution expressly and exclusively vests in the Legislature the power of declaring a state of war. The separation of the power of declaring war from that of conducting it is wisely contrived to exclude the danger of its being declared for the sake of its being conducted.”
-James Madison
July 30th, 2010 at 10:28 amAxis of evil is the republican party, and needs to be desroyed for america people from being destroyed.
July 30th, 2010 at 10:28 am“If Bush was right…”
Right there is your answer, salamander head!
Bush was NEVER correct on anything!
(BTW, I am so glad, back in 2005 when you were a “guest” speaker in Ft. Lauderdale for a pharmacy convention, I walked out so I wouldn’t have to listen to your $hit!!!)
July 30th, 2010 at 10:28 amzxbe says:
And who’s going to pay for it?
Why Iraq of course remember how there oil was going to pay for that war.
July 30th, 2010 at 10:28 amYesterday, Newt Gingrich delivered a speech at AEI “drawing on the lessons” of socialist authors Albert Camus and George Orwell to attack the President Obama’s foreign policy and “describe the dangers of a wartime government that uses language and misleading labels to obscure reality.”
That just never stops being funny. :-D
July 30th, 2010 at 10:29 amkissinger, or greenspan ftm, didnt say we went into iraq because of evil. they said they thought it was about oil.
July 30th, 2010 at 10:30 amPilotshark Sponsored by Boeing`s Toxic cult troll Clean up Team says:
Why Iraq of course remember how there oil was going to pay for that war.
And I must say Iraq is looking pretty shiny these days.
Oh wait…
July 30th, 2010 at 10:31 amFeh. I’d far rather we take out these insane neocon morons who keep calling for nuclear war. Round ‘em all up and ship ‘em off to Gitmo.
July 30th, 2010 at 10:31 amspeaking of orwellian abuse of words/slogans how about that ‘contract with america’ you made, but never planned to fulfill, newt?
July 30th, 2010 at 10:31 amZooey (I am Patsy) says:
Pilotshark Sponsored by Boeing`s Toxic cult troll Clean up Team says:
Why Iraq of course remember how there oil was going to pay for that war.
And I must say Iraq is looking pretty shiny these days.
why yes that money is poring in to the treasury so fast that we can not even keep up with it, i mean look theres what 10 billion missing.
OH wait:::
Smiling.
July 30th, 2010 at 10:35 amGingrich deserves a Palinoscopy
July 30th, 2010 at 10:35 am“That’s what Americans are all about.”
not any more…
least, that’s part of the “change” a huge majority voted for.
too many war mongers, yes… mercenaries all… and that’s all.
July 30th, 2010 at 10:36 amHoly sh!t.
July 30th, 2010 at 10:36 amIf people need a reason NOT to encourage this guy to run for president, this is it.
Perpetual war, bankrupt nation, starvation, homelessness, and premature deaths — that is the future of a Gingrich presidency.
Insanity.
I like how salamander face injects the “standing ovation from Congress” B.S.!
Yeah, an applause from the misled, over bogus information. Proud of that, ain’t ya?
Now, if Iraq was truly an “Axis of Evil”, then how was the U.N. correct regarding it’s sanctions, and subsequent no WMD???
Sorry Newt, you’re a flute!
July 30th, 2010 at 10:38 amLeftside Annie – brought to you by FOX Pasteurized Process Newsproduct says:
“Round ‘em all up and ship ‘em off to Gitmo.”
I prefer an air-drop into the training yard for the Iranian National Guard. Kind of a “dirty bomb” as they will have collectively shit their neocon pants on the way down.
July 30th, 2010 at 10:39 amWhite Wing whackos, war whining whores.
July 30th, 2010 at 10:41 amAnd this insane MOFO wants to run for effing President?
Geebuz.
July 30th, 2010 at 10:42 amthe axis of evil:
July 30th, 2010 at 10:42 amnewtie pie
Boo-hoo glenda becky
slimy sarah palin
“War, at first, is the hope that one will be better off; next, the expectation that the other fellow will be worse off; then, the satisfaction that he isn’t any better off; and, finally, the surprise at everyone’s being worse off.
July 30th, 2010 at 10:43 am-Karl Kraus, writer (1874-1936)
How about we replace Iraq in the Axis of Ebil with Israel.
July 30th, 2010 at 10:44 amThey’ve got nukes, have shown their ability to terrorize entire populations.
A Patriot Acting says:
I prefer an air-drop into the training yard for the Iranian National Guard. Kind of a “dirty bomb” as they will have collectively shit their neocon pants on the way down.
LOL>>> kinda like a NEOCON SH!T Storm.
July 30th, 2010 at 10:44 am“If Franklin Roosevelt had done that in ‘41, either the Japanese or the Germans would have won,” Gingrich said.
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“Done that”? Done what? Stood at brink, looked over and thought, “Too big a problem.”???
Wow — for someone who claims some knowledge of history, Newt is falling flat. In December of 1941, another country waged an unprovoked attack on our country. As a result, FDR asked Congress to declare war and Congress quickly complied. This is what we do when we are attacked by another country. I doubt we have had ANY president — either before FDR or since — who would not do the same in those circumstances. I can think of no president — not even those history scholars consider abject failures — who would have reacted to the attack on Pearl Harbor by doing nothing, because they deemed it “too big a problem”.
Let us not compare the Bush/Cheney wars with WWII. That dog won’t hunt.
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I want my TRILLION FU CKING dollars back, you warmongering FU CKFACE!
July 30th, 2010 at 10:46 ammissmolly @#40,,,,That dog is barely able to drool on itself.
July 30th, 2010 at 10:47 am@41
Some one mention the neocon chicken sh!t brigade and look who shows up to report for duty!
VD
July 30th, 2010 at 10:47 amVinylspear @#29 ~ And I’ve got some barbed wire for that procedure.
July 30th, 2010 at 10:48 amIt’s easy to be 1 for 3, when the 1 had nothing to begin with.
And I’m tired of hearing conservatives act like Iraq is a done deal. No one knows what the end result in Iraq will be – whatever it is, all we know right now is it took a long, long time (and lots of US lives and Chinese money) to achieve whatever it is that will be “achieved.”
In the end, the achievement may just be a bankrupt superpower with all the old problems remaining. How would that be success for US?
July 30th, 2010 at 10:50 amYour idiocy knows no bounds, eh?
July 30th, 2010 at 10:51 amBut hey, thanks for disrespecting our fallen heroes.
But then again, it appears you do that all the time.
You should be ashamed to call yourself an American!
935 recorded lies taking us into Axis of Evil I.
July 30th, 2010 at 10:51 amFool me once, shame on…shame on….Won’t get fooled again!
Pilotshark Sponsored by Boeing`s Toxic cult troll Clean up Team says:
“LOL>>> kinda like a NEOCON SH!T Storm.”
True Shock and Awe!
July 30th, 2010 at 10:52 ampo,
And let’s not forget that of the “3″, Bush and Co. chose the easiest.
You know, the country that DID NOT HAVE WMD!
You know, the country in disarray over the sanctions.
You know, the country who’s military was severely depleted from the previous gulf war.
You know, the country that had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11.
Newt, you’re a toot!
July 30th, 2010 at 10:53 amIf we don’t disengage from the middle east pretty quickly, we’re going to wind up like the Soviet Union at the and of the 1980s. The Afghanistan occupation broke its military and brought it to the verge of bankruptcy.
July 30th, 2010 at 10:54 am3 Americans killed in Afghanistan, making July deadliest month of war for U.S.
Only at least 4410 less than how many have died in the illegal was President Bust started in Iraq. 4274 after he declared Major combat operations in Iraq have ended. In the Battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed. And now our coalition is engaged in securing and reconstructing that country. a.k.a. Mission Accomplished.
July 30th, 2010 at 10:55 amFrom Ben’s post;
“Writing about Gingrich’s recent tirades against Islam and unhinged opposition to a proposal to build a mosque in downtown Manhattan, the Wonk Room’s Matt Duss notes that “Gingrich obviously wants to be president very badly. But he really needs to think hard about the sort of rhetorical tactics he’s embracing, and the sort of sentiments he’s cultivating, and the sort of company he’s joining in order to achieve that.””
That’s just so NOT true. It’s really much easier for Newt to just witlessly verbally jack off, spewing crap into the air anywhere he happens to be, never giving any thought to the implication of what he’s saying or how it might play out by way of consequence, and never mind what he’s proposing as policy.
That’s Newtie… he wouldn’t be Newt if he didn’t have diarrhea of the big mouth.
July 30th, 2010 at 10:55 am@52 how = have
July 30th, 2010 at 10:55 amThis tired old s.o.b should be put out to permanent pasture.
People like him make a lot of money speaking at stink tanks, but never say anything that resembles solutions or new ideas.
Maybe Newt & Rush could trade wives or something…
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Ummm excuse me!
That’s funding for a war already being fought, dum bass! One started by Bush, then purposely forgotten, then restarted.
Salamander forehead is proposing a hypothetical one (or two).
You know, when ascertaining talking points, it may be useful to actually understand them before posting.
Just a suggestion.
July 30th, 2010 at 11:04 amthere was an Axis of Evil, Iran, Iraq, North Korea. Well we’re one out of three. And people ought to think about that.
Yes, one should always base complex and critical foreign policy on simplistic messaging designed to sell an otherwise ill-advised invasion eight years earlier.
And this is what passes for a “conservative intellectual” these days, folks.
July 30th, 2010 at 11:06 am@56
VD
wow a neocon chicken shit crying about 33 billion to keep OUR (not sure so much about your side) TROOPS WHO ARE IN HARMS WAY.
remember!!
in the middle of a fire fight it does not matter to the solider whose side is right or wrong!
I want them home as much as anyone could! however we need to bring them home with out exposing them to more danger then they are in now.
July 30th, 2010 at 11:07 amSo thats money well spend (if any money in war could be considered well spend).
Given that such a requirement would virtually eliminate the useless voices of the trolls, I’m all for it.
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Gingrich will never be President – no matter how badly he wants it – as he still is very unpopular from the time he was Speaker of the House. And he recent conversion to the moronic Tea Party won’t help him with Independent voters.
July 30th, 2010 at 11:10 am“New Black Panthers”
DRINK!!!
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With all due respect, missmolly, that particular dog is more than willing to hunt … provided it’s being asked to hunt a trail of snausages laid out on the floor of the of the auditorium at AEI.
July 30th, 2010 at 11:12 amAnyone surprised that a troll shows no comprehension whatsoever of the term “chickenhawk”?
July 30th, 2010 at 11:13 amFuzzyslippers™ Just another Mongrel says:
Come on Newt, we already have a chicken hawk in the White House sending our sons and daughters into his ever expanding Afghan war.
George W. Bush is no longer presidunce, dingleberry.
July 30th, 2010 at 11:15 am… yawn…
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VD, RfS
scummy wad you are a total coward!!
how long did the programming take until you were totally brainwashed into the cult?
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ralph the wonder llama, official spokesllama for a Troll-Free America™ says:
Anyone surprised that a troll shows no comprehension whatsoever of the term “chickenhawk”?
Or that the Obama kids are nine and 12? That’s just Scuzzy being “clever.”
July 30th, 2010 at 11:20 amI am not sure which he is talking about.
Wall Street, the fossil fuel industry and the for-profit, pay-or-die wealthcare industries are still dominating our nation.
July 30th, 2010 at 11:21 amQuestioningEverything says:
Today’s “Axis of Evil” includes the Democratic party, the SEIU thugs, and the militant, racist, hate group known as the “New Black Panthers.”
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Absolutely wrong. America’s ONLY enemy today is her own fascist right wing which seeks nothing more than money and power in the hands of the favored few, supported by what must, in effect, be a slave state. A new and updated feudalism, in effect. Liberals and progressives are all that stand in the way of full implementation.
As for the eternal call to war, refer to 1944 when the outcome of the Second World War was becoming clear, and the fears of industrialists who had come to see the immense profits awaiting them in an age of constant conflict:
Today, enter Newt and the treasonous traitorous right wing of American politics.
Problem obvious.
Thus is it written.
July 30th, 2010 at 11:24 amAnyone surprised that a troll shows no comprehension whatsoever of the term “OT”?
July 30th, 2010 at 11:24 am@72
LOL>>> guessing you have a hard time admitting to yourself just how far gone over to the cult side you have gone.
is all this crying and begging for attention getting to you? as you realize we do not give a flying rats ass about you.
reality what a concept.
July 30th, 2010 at 11:28 amAEI = Amazingly Erroneous Institute
July 30th, 2010 at 11:29 amralph the wonder llama, official spokesllama for a Troll-Free America™ says:
Anyone surprised that a troll shows no comprehension whatsoever of the term “OT”?
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Proof that the only thing stupider than a dumb rock is an average troll.
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benji85 says:
Even worse, the main ally of both Iran and North Korea is…wait for it…China.
China gets a good deal on oil from Iran. Similarly, North Korea is china’s puppet buffer state from impingement from the West via South Korea.
China, which owns all our debt for the Talking Chimp’s off-budget wars in Iraq (a war of choice) and Afghanistan (Powell’s Pottery Barn “You broke it, you bought it” war), is not going to stand idly by while the United States attacks its two stalwart strategic allies.
There are over a million screaming Chinese in uniform, and Chinese nukes aimed at Washington. Not to mention Chinese on the Yalu River fully able to sweep down on the capital of our erstwhile ally, South Korea, in a matter of hours from commencement of hostilities.
Do you really want to go to war with China, Mr. former Speaker? Or do you just want to whip your mindless followers into a frenzy so you can ride the wave back into power, after which you will invent platitudes and excuses (mostly aimed at Democrats) as to why you cannot make good on your promise to take the war to the remainder of the so-called Axis of Evil?
July 30th, 2010 at 11:34 amFuzzyslippers @ 70…GONE.
July 30th, 2010 at 11:37 amYes, let’s take out the Axis of Evil, starting with the top 3:
1. George W. Bush
July 30th, 2010 at 11:39 am2. Dick Cheney
3. Newt Gingrich
Fuzzyslippers @ 65…GONE.
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A chicken’s foot outline is the symbol you find on a peace trinket.
Don’t know what a chickenhawk is?
That’s funny!
July 30th, 2010 at 11:48 amOne good and two great men.
I guess he only rates good for having dumped his first wife while she was in the hospital with cancer.
July 30th, 2010 at 11:50 amI oropose that we go to war with Iran and North Korea, when and only when:
1. The Hunt Brothers and the Koch Brothers and Newt Gingrich’s money is used to fund the war;
July 30th, 2010 at 11:51 am2. Jenna and Barbara Bush, and Liz and Mary Cheney, and any of Newt’s demon seed are on the front line of the first wave of soldiers to go in.
sorry that was “propose”
July 30th, 2010 at 11:51 amlongredroboslobber says:
This blog grossly mischaracterizes the Republican Party and Newt Gingrich.
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How can the simple act of pointing out that they’re all stupid and seditious traitors be considered a mischaracterization?
July 30th, 2010 at 11:52 amlongredplagiarizer says:
When you think about it, seriously think about it, the socialist Democrats are responsible for helping to make the US second-rate.
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Bush and Cheney, et al., were Socialist Democrats? I knew they made the US second rate, but I didn’t know THAT.
July 30th, 2010 at 11:55 amWhen you think about it, seriously think about it, the socialist Democrats are responsible for helping to make the US second-rate.
That would be the last administration. Videos of Iraq are being used to recruit more suicide bombers, throughout the mid-East.
July 30th, 2010 at 11:57 amLong Live Emmanuel Goldstein!
July 30th, 2010 at 12:19 pm“The best way to encourage economic vitality and growth is to let people keep their own money” -=gwb=-
then came spending trillions of the peoples money on war, financial bailouts, surveillance apparatus and the mic.
July 30th, 2010 at 12:24 pmWhen you think about it, seriously think about it, the socialist Democrats are responsible for helping to make the US second-rate. -=some trow=-
the two wars and the gwot started by bush did not stop america from going into the great recession or negate a financial crisis. the broken window myth that wars revitalize economies is now thoroughly debunked.
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longredbillions says:
When you think about it, seriously think about it, the socialist Democrats are responsible for helping to make the US second-rate.
Actually, if you are able to think critically at all, Repiggie/teabaggers are succedding in making the US third world.
July 30th, 2010 at 12:45 pmMoto- As a history major, I have to take my hat off to Newt, he is one of the greatest revisionist historians I have ever heard or read! You are delusional.
July 30th, 2010 at 12:48 pmI think it will be republobaggers who are the weak to be tramplesd and hurdled if they accept the tripe Newtie puts out as an accurate perspective. He is nothing more than Brightfart with a better vocabulary, an unabashed propagandist!
@89 WTFisalongredbillion says:When you think about it, seriously think about it, the socialist Democrats are responsible for helping to make the US second-rate.
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No, when seriously contemplated it is obvious to any honest broker that the abject failure of Reaganomics and the free trade debacle coupled with the absolute incompetence of Dubbya and the Repug congress for 6 years or 8 years that has brought us to the brink.
motomark says:
As usual, Newt’s comments are right-on-the-money. There are no politicians on the scene or in elected office that can hold a candle to Newt’s grasp of history. TP is incredibly disingenuous in their description of him…”unhinged”? Gimmee a break.
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Fresh proof that the only thing stupider than a dumb rock is an “average” troll.
Thanks for the unsolicited contribution.
July 30th, 2010 at 12:59 pmI can see that the trolls have a penchant toward patriotic mumblings today so I propose that all the trolls stop what they are doing (wasting effort on this board), get off their collective a§es and enlist!
What better way is there for a real American to prove they are real patriots.
Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines–what a great way to be!
July 30th, 2010 at 1:04 pm@108
You should enlist, the military’s taking darned near anything these days.
Show us you got a pair troll.
July 30th, 2010 at 1:12 pmIran has no nuclear weapons. Iran isn’t making nuclear weapons, cheerfully or otherwise. According to U.S. intelligence and the UN, Iran does not have a nuclear weapons program.
July 30th, 2010 at 1:18 pmHmm… seems like I remember a recent comment from someone here that would be relevant…
Ah, yes… that’s what it was:
And to think it was just yesterday.
July 30th, 2010 at 1:20 pmGINGRICH: I believe he was right but in fact could not operationalize what he said.
“Operationalize?” Before I assumed he was doing the Republican thing of making up stupid words, I checked. Turns out it is a word, but not the one he wanted.
So, to fail to “operationalize” something means to fail to even explain what it would look like in the real world.
Gingrich is thus saying that Bush didn’t know wtf he was talking about.
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motomark says:
There are no politicians on the scene or in elected office that can hold a candle to Newt’s grasp of history.
That’s because Newt is grasping the candle with his anal sphincter.
He has yet to ever say anything that demonstrates he’s even seen a history textbook from a distance, much less read one, much less got a cow-college degree in it.
July 30th, 2010 at 1:20 pm@114 Moto says:Newt would run circles around Obama in a debate———————————–
July 30th, 2010 at 2:06 pmNot if Newt had to be encombered with the facts. Won’t happen anyway, the Repubs will probably nominate the real brains of the outfit, Sarah Palin. BBBBBRRRRRRRhahahahahahahaha!
Moto says: Unlike Chairman O, he doesn’t apologize for America’s greatness, understands our place in history,
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He is a major source of embarrassment for us all.
Doesn’t matter, michiganmitch. By moto’s own standards, moto already lost.
July 30th, 2010 at 2:25 pm@ 105 Moto says: 103 Mitch-give me an example of his “revisionist” position.
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The titles of the Gingerich volumes are are themselves Revionist!!!!!- Apparently the texts make a case for that which is untrue! Message to one with a brain- Read no further if you seek truth.
July 30th, 2010 at 2:38 pmMotorohno says:
Unlike Chairman O, he doesn’t apologize for America’s greatness, understands our place in history …
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“America’s greatness” is, with a few exceptions, little more than locally popular mythology. No country built upon the decimation of the land’s aboriginal peoples, on slave trading and human ownership, on rabid Christianity, and later on imposed segregation, on warmongering, on fear, and on greed can experience ‘greatness’ only in its own imagination.
Obama may well be the nation’s last chance to attain greatness in the true sense of the word. It’s impossible to redo, much less even repair, a sordid past, but a sordid future need not be the only option. Obama understands that. We should all hope that he’ll succeed in spite of the idiots that constantly stand in his way.
July 30th, 2010 at 2:43 pmMoto- Obama is temporarily detained and unable to write at this time. He is busy cleaning up the mess that 30 years of failed conservative economics has brought with the current debt and deficit and the biggest economic collapse since the 1929, 2 unnecessary, illegal wars, environmental disaters brought on by corrupt dergulaton and lax enforcement and running the country with no help but much hinderance from the Republotraitors. When his second term has finished in triumph over the failed ideology of conservatism, with The U.S. again prosperous and again reverred by all, he will likely kick out Pulizer prize winners one after another ’till the cows come home.
July 30th, 2010 at 2:53 pmmotomark says:
118 ralph-no…by “my” standards, i have decimated this board. I offer…
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What you don’t seem to realize is that your “standards” are meaningless to anyone with an IQ over 100. Totally meaningless. Therefore you decimate nothing, you contribute nothing. You are, in a word, a worthless punk. Live with it, or die with it. No one here really cares one way or the other.
July 30th, 2010 at 2:59 pmMr. Gingrich, you’re just a bald-faced liar and that’s why people find you so disgusting. An “Axis” of anything, implies an ALLIANCE.
There is no alliance between Iraq, Iran, and North Korea. If there is, prove it. Don’t say some “secret intelligence says so.” That bullshit. The American public has learned that we can no longer trust our government, therefore, they have to start proving stuff to us. Like how 9/11 happened, for example. The official government story is a known Swiss Cheese Factory. It also indicates, unequivocally, that Israel was responsible. We can prove it. Honest public officials will help us expose this or they need to find a way out of town. This should be a one-way trip.
Most of the people I talk to are just about ready to hang all public officials, especially at the top. The higher up, the shorter the rope. Don’t kid yourself into thinking the people trust you anymore…Democrats or Republicans. We call them “gangsters”, comprende?
July 30th, 2010 at 3:01 pmmotomark says:
120 Frugal wrote:“America’s greatness” is, with a few exceptions, little more than locally popular mythology.” And he was right!
[Fixed it for you. There is no charge.]
July 30th, 2010 at 3:01 pmOf course you have, dear.
The name-calling was purely a rhetorical device, I’m sure, and fully justified by the insufferable behavior of others. Thus, you can’t be said to have “reduced whatever ‘credibility’ you have” nor to have lost. Those consequences are for others. I understand.
You have to be free to engage in this type of tactic even as you decry it in others, in order for you to continue your decimatin’.
It’s “motomark exceptionalism”, right?
July 30th, 2010 at 3:03 pmNo…no, this makes perfect sense. You see, Iraq and Afghanistan did not turn out quite the way Newt and his buddies intended. So now we must move on to new wars…one that they have not had a chance to screw up yet.
The only downside to this strategy is that given the GOP’s past war management performance, we will soon run out of countries to attack.
July 30th, 2010 at 3:17 pmralph the wonder llama
It’s “motomark exceptionalism”, right?
When he’s old enough — high school age — I’d recommend to the mototroll that he take a class or two in modern mythology, a Mythic Patterns type of class. He’d probably not like it at first, but maybe could grow into it.
July 30th, 2010 at 3:20 pmEven if these criminals realized that America doesn’t have the stomach for more war, they wouldn’t care.
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motomouthy @ 123, the only thing you got right is the wide part; it seems to be both you and Martha V – always wide. Well, you need to start waddling around a bit, set up a progressive exercise program or you’re just going to get wider. Then it’s gonna take two men, a small boy, and a construction crane to get your useless butt out of yo momma’s basement when your heart craps out.
Apart from that, you’re just stringing together unsupported assertions and witless arguments. On the whole, you don’t make much sense, but I’m not asking you to stop. Although you do draw flies, you also draw the wrath of E. Debs, and watching him engage you in a round of Punch’n'Judy is always entertaining.
July 30th, 2010 at 3:33 pmDear Newt of Ging,
The actual “axis of evil” is much shorter and much closer: it runs from the White House to the Pentagon to the CIA. Our American military has murdered some six million people in the third world since 1898; we make the so-called “el Quida” look like pretty small potatoes by comparison. How many have they killed? Six thousand? That would make the US military about one thousand times more lethal…
July 30th, 2010 at 3:54 pmGingrich’s entire thesis there is that the only problem with Bush’s foreign policy is that he didn’t get around to doing as much as he wanted to. I’ll just let that sink in for a bit.
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motomark says:
ElBruce-yeah…Newt’s really not that prilific of a writer about history…
I’m not judging him on page count.
A huge pile of bullshit is not less stinky than a small pile of bullshit.
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motomark says:
no…by “my” standards, i have decimated this board.
I am always amazed by the ability of wingnuts to perform victory dances while being savagely beaten at the same time.
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motomark says:
Do not…I repeat…do NOT extrapolate your own failings and weaknesses as a contributing member of society to the millions of great Americans that lived, and died, before you so that you can make a fool of yourself for the WORLD to witness.
I’m curious, if you can take a break from trolling and try having a real discussion for a bit:
In your opinion, what makes America great?
That post suggests that it’s the sum of the greatness of the individuals who live in it. Is that it? Are people who are American more inherently great than citizens of all other countries? In what way? Do we deduct non-great Americans from the greatness total accumulated by the population, or is that neutral to the overall score?
Follow up question: are we as great as we could possibly be, or are there things we could do to be even greater? If we point out what those things are, does that count as “blaming America first?”
July 30th, 2010 at 4:15 pmHe he he… ElBruce, you funny.
July 30th, 2010 at 4:31 pm@123 Moto says:Obama is being exposed as an empty suit.
Which implies he is doing nothing.
then Moto says:
and it will take an unbelievable effort on the part of Conservatives to undo the destructive “efforts” of the power-hungry marxists in Washington
Which implies that some takeover has taken place that must have required a great deal of effort.
Which is it Motoschitzo?
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@123 obama is quadrupling down on the deficit.
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Now Motoliar, let us do the math. Bush inherited a 280 billion surplus. He turned that into a deficit of in excess of a trillion driving unemployment to about 14 million. If Obama quadrupled down, then the current deficit would be 1.4 * 4 or 5.6 trillion. Gee, haven’t seen that number anywhere and neither have you. You must be a serial liar then.
michiganmitch, the wingnuts always pretend that the trillion-plus deficit that Bush handed Obama in FY 2009 was Obama’s doing. You can depend on it, as predictable as the tides.
July 30th, 2010 at 5:01 pmGingrich and warmongers like him always bring the Second World war and Hitler’s picture to what’s happeneing today.
July 30th, 2010 at 5:11 pmAlthough the world does not in any way look like the time when Hitler lead his Germany to conquer Europe,Soviet Union, and North Africa.
If Gingrich is suggesting that Iran is the new Germany, then he is mistaken.
And if there is any country today who will be the first to fight a new Nazi government, it will be Russia.
Russian lost over 20 million citizens,their country was almost totally destroyed by Hitler’s army.
They know a Nazi when they see one.
If Iran is the new Germany,as Gingrich is suggesting, Russia will be the first to stop Iran.
Iran never attacked any country in over 100 years.
Compare that to most countries today,and in particular the Middle Eastern countries.!
Gingrich, most Republicans,Beck,and Fox network always use Hitler to get at their targeted enemy.
Arafat was Hitler, Khadafi was Hitler,Saddam was Hitler,Hizbullah leader is Hitler..and now Iranian leader is Hitler..
Is Gingrich suggesting to start a big and new war in the Middle East and another one in the Far East to fulfill and complete Bush’s puzzle of Axis of Evil.
It is worth noticing here that Gingrich,and all warmongers like him never put a military uniform on,and all look at war from a cinematic angle.
War is the uggliest game that any country or leader might play.
Is this guy looking to be the next president..?
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If there was a shred of doubt that Newt Gingrich is a total nutjob, he debunked those doubts with this chicken little paranoia about sharia law.
I think it is much more likely that Newt is a blood-sucking alien from the planet Conservataurd.Look real close and tell me that he doesn’t have a reptilian tail twitching at the bottom of his right pant leg!
When he’s crying about countries making nuclear weapons we all know that he wants to promote the chicken hawk neocon policy. Is Newt willing to suit up and bring his relatives to fight? Or is it just everybody else’s sons and daughters that are supposed to sacrifice their lives and health for these “global cop” policies?
July 30th, 2010 at 9:32 pmThis dude is as nutty as Failin’ Palin and Bat turd-for-brains Bachmann! The Republicant party is winding down if that’s the best that they can do for potential leadership.
Don’t linger long and exit peacefully GOP!
Northwoods Populist says:
If there was a shred of doubt that Newt Gingrich is a total nutjob, he debunked those doubts with this chicken little paranoia about sharia law.
Which is funny, since he writes books that say the exact opposite:
All the sharia folks want is “God in the courtoom.” That’s what Newt wants too. Their only quibble is about which side’s magic book should be used to control the laws of our nation.
July 30th, 2010 at 10:51 pm@ 142. First you talk about comparing 2009 to 2008, then you link to an article that is about the 2008 budget compared to the 2007 budget. Then you site the 2008 and 2009 deficits.
American budget 101. The fiscal year is from October to September. The 2009 budget was developed by W. The excess incurred from the 9/08 market collapse and W’s bailout, then the necessity of a stimulus package that Obama scaled down to appease the GOP who just wanted him to fail – regardless of how that might affect Main St America.
That you can deceive yourself that out current situation – which became impossible to deny almost 60 days before Obama was elected- is due to what he has done since taking office, illustrates how distorted your knowledge and thinking are.
@143 Only partially, I’m not wasting my time on the whole thing.
That is a perfect example of American arrogance toward the rest of the world. You have simply rephrased the ‘better than everyone else’ meme into something that sounds to you like it is a viable difference.
Second, reread the Preamble of the Constitution to better understand what the FF laid out as the purpose of our government.
Third
Do you really mean this? Reagan, Bush & Bush held the greedy and corrupt accountable while Obama has suspended such action??
You are seriously overdoing the chemicals not normal to the human body and brain. As an RN, I would strongly recommend you stop. As a liberal, I’m not sure I care if you don’t.
July 31st, 2010 at 4:37 amGingrich is a despicable man is so many, many ways.
Serving his first wife with divorce papers while she was in the hospital with cancer while he was cheating on her is only the tip of the iceberg with this guy.
He has no morals whatsoever..zero, nada , zilch.
July 31st, 2010 at 11:38 amGINGRICH: I believe he was right but in fact could not operationalize what he said. That is, there was an Axis of Evil, Iran, Iraq, North Korea. Well we’re one out of three. And people ought to think about that. If Bush was right in January of 2002 — and by the way virtually the entire Congress gave him a standing ovation when he said it — then why is it that the other two parts of the Axis of Evil are still visibly, cheerfully making nuclear weapons? And it’s because we’ve stood at brink, looked over and thought, “Too big a problem.”
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In my honest opinion, this latest quote from Gingrich mkes it clear that not only should his ethics and his intelligence be subject to serious question…his sanity should be as well. For one thing, our own intelligence officials have indicated on multiple occasions that Iran is not yet capable of being able to manufacture nuclear weapons. North Korea reportedly is, but that’s been true since Bush’s first term in office — so if Gingrich doesn’t think enough has been done about them and is upset about it, why doesn’t he criticize George W. Bush for his failure to respond?
Oh, of course…silly me. Why didn’t I see it before this? The answer is obvious…the red wall of silence. George W. Bush chose to ignore North Korea for over four years even though there were clear indications that they were actively attempting to develop nuclear weapons, but George W. Bush was a Republican (which means that he’s exempt from any and all criticism) — so this, like all of Bush’s other failures, must somehow be Obama’s fault. It couldn’t have anything to do with the fact that Iraq and Iran both have two of the world’s largest proven reserves of oil (a commodity upon which this country is so heavily dependent that it amounts to an addiction) while North Korea is almost completely lacking in any resource we might care to exploit — no, of course not! While we’re on the subject of the Axis of Evil, would Gingrich care to explain why the United States chose to form an alliance with one brutal and tyrannical dictator (Islam Karimov of Uzbekistan) in the course of their efforts to unseat another brutal and tyrannical dictator (Saddam Hussein of Iraq)?
While we’re on the subject of nuclear powers, it would appear that Gingrigh has forgotten about North Korea’s neighbor to the north and part-time ally — China. Does Gingrich truly believe that China would be cool with the prospect of having the U.S. military on their front porch — especially when Kim Il-Jong has made it clear that he’s not the most emotionally stable person in the world and has already threatened to detonate nuclear weapons in the event that his country is invaded??
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July 31st, 2010 at 3:31 pmHe will be totally exposed.
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Easy for his fat ass to say that. Did Newt ever serve in the military? I find it funny that motherf’ers that never fought, are so quick to send other people’s kids to do their dirty work. That’s why I am all for the draft being brought back. Except this time, we shouldn’t allow the stalling tactics that were played by Rush Limpballs and Darth Shotgun Cheney. If their kids or relatives were put in harms way, you wouldn’t see all these cowardly mofo’s advocating for war
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