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The New Hoovers

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There’s something very odd about the Herbert Hooverism that seems to have taken over American journalism. This was the second presidential debate in which the moderator decided to editorialize heavy in favor of the odd proposition that amidst a recession caused by a credit crunch at a time when the federal government is able to borrow funds on very favorable terms that we ought to be imposing austerity budgeting. I have a bunch of disagreements with McCain’s policy proposals, but to his credit even he won’t embrace this. Mike Scherer seems to find the candidates’ refusal to follow Jim Lehrer and Tom Brokaw off the cliff to be some kind of dishonesty:

Neither candidate has the courage to speak straight with the American people about our nation’s fiscal problems. Asked about the financial crisis, McCain talked about energy independence, hitting the same talking points he used in July. Obama talked about the need to give tax cuts to the middle class, and expand spending programs, a proposal he put forward last year. Both men have proposed policies that will lead to an increase in the deficit, according to independent analysts, even without a dramatic economic downturn, which looks increasingly inevitable. Neither man has shown any clear intention to tell Americans to face head on the hard economic times that await us. This is politics. The candidates are playing it safe, not telling voters anything they don’t want to hear. They choose to demagogue Wall Street instead.

This is ludicrous. You need to respond to a downturn with expansionary policies of some kind. In recent decades, we’ve preferred relying on expansionary monetary policy (Fed interest rate cuts) rather than Keynesian deficit spending. But at the moment, there’s no real room left for the Fed to cut rates. That means you need deficit spending. Among other things, the nature of state and local budgets means that a contraction in the economy will naturally lead to a contraction in state and local spending. That will lead to further contraction in the economy. If the federal government did what Scherer’s suggesting and added its own cutbacks to state government cutbacks, local government cutbacks, and private sector cutbacks that would only deepen the recession.

Meanwhile, as you may have noticed, there’s a credit crunch afoot. A lot of people or business who might think they have solid ideas about how to invest some money in new production or sales are finding they can’t get the loans they need to do that. One of the few entities that still can easily raise large quantities of money on favorable terms is the federal government. If the feds don’t take up that opportunity and borrow cash that gets plowed into something or other, then there’s going to be no new economic activity at all. What we ought to be doing is debating not whether to spend, but what to spend the money on since, clearly, it’s much better to have the money spent on something useful than on something pointless.

Instead, though, a lot of the press’ leading lights seem to think we ought to follow Herbert Hoover off the cliff. Everyone’s been living too high on the hog and we need to liquidate everything. Massive suffering will be good for us.

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CNN Poll

Who won the debate? Obama: 54%, McCain: 30%.

Climate Progress

Sierra Club Helps Promote Pickens Plan On Debate Night

Pickens chatAt 10 PM tonight, the Sierra Club’s Carl Pope and right-wing oil billionaire T. Boone Pickens began a live-streamed chat that had been advertised across the Internet as an “e-rally” in response to the presidential debate. Pickens and Pope previously met in a discussion moderated by Center for American Progress Action Fund president John Podesta, in which the three found common ground on the question of getting off our dependence on oil.

Under the banner of the Pickens Plan to increase wind and natural gas use, Pickens and other natural gas titans are fueling a major campaign to support Proposition 10 in California, which would give $5 billion in taxpayer money to natural gas companies. Clean Energy Fuels Corp., a Pickens company, has spent $3.8 million directly pushing Prop 10.

Although the Sierra Club opposes Prop 10, it has raised no money to block the measure, according to state records.

At the Huffington Post, Josh Nelson notes that Pickens met with Sarah Palin last week and said, “she gets this energy situation.” As the Wonk Room has pointed out before, this is an absurd claim. Pickens’ early emphasis on wind power has faded to a message primarily pushing natural gas. Sadly, like Palin, Pickens also refuses to accept that man-made global warming is a crisis. He has refused to work with Al Gore, saying “global warming is on page two for me.”

The “e-rally” site allows visitors to send an endorsement of the problem-filled Pickens Plan to the presidential candidates.

UPDATE: On the Sierra Club’s Wild Blog, Matt Kirby wrote this July about Pickens:

He has no interest in conservation and no interest in greening our energy supply. He’s merely interested in energy independence and if that involves renewable energy, not to mention if he can make billions off of it, then so be it. He made it clear that he wants more domestic drilling than even John McCain. In his own words: “McCain says, ‘OK off the east and west coast.’ I say east, west coast and ANWR—get it all!”

So let me get this straight. We can’t drill our way out of this problem, but we should drill everything anyway? Could there perhaps be some lingering vested interests for T. Boone?

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“That One”

Here’s the video of that weird “that one” moment:

I thought the most bizarre McCain joke of the night was when Tom Brokaw asked who he would consider to lead the Treasury Department, and then he snapped “not you, Tom.”

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CBS Instapoll

Another win for Obama according to CBS’ pollsters: Obama 39%, McCain 27%, Tie 35%.

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McCain’s Non-New New Rescue Plan

I heard a certain amount of talk on the CNN post-game commentary to the effect that McCain had some kind of new plan to buy home mortgage debt and help restructure loans. This isn’t a new plan at all, it’s a description of provisions in last week’s rescue package.

UPDATE: To clarify, the emergency package grants the Treasury Department the authority to do more-or-less what McCain proposed, something progressive legislators pushed to include in the package. People didn’t discuss it much because the general understanding is that Secretary Paulson doesn’t favor taking those steps.

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Wrapping Up

There was really nothing here that we hadn’t heard before, though Obama came up with a wittier way of making his basic point about Iraq. On some level, it’s not so surprising that we didn’t hear anything incredibly new. On another level, it’s extremely surprising to me, tactically, that McCain didn’t try to do something new. Instead, McCain took the same talking points (earmarks bad, tax cuts good, earmarks very bad) that have seen him fall behind and decided to repeat them with less energy. I would be shocked if this exchange gained any ground for McCain and not at all surprised if he just continues to slip.

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Delaware, Are You Aware?

I was a bit surprised, in light of his running mate, to hear Barack Obama making reference to Delaware’s lax regulatory environment. But I think it’s a good pretext to repost my Joe Biden / Promise Ring mashup video:

Just saying.

Climate Progress

Note to John McCain: Uncommitted Ohio voters just aren’t into nuclear power

If you don’t watch the debates on CNN, you are really missing something. CNN has set up a dial group of uncommitted Ohio voters. At the bottom of the screen CNN then shows the graph of the reaction by men and women as they rate statements they like or don’t like.

McCain seems to think his strong support of nuclear power is a big political winner for him, since he has brough it up three times in the first hour. But every time he talks about nuclear, he flatlines with both men and women. They simply are unethused about nuclear power, which is no surprise.

At best, people consider nuclear power as castor oil, something your parents made you take that is supposed to be good for you. At worst, people think it’s a source of radioactivity they’d like to stay far away from.

Frankly, McCain has been flatlining for most of the debate, which I suspect post-debate audience polls will reflect, though he seems to be doing better this debate than the first one.

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Livebloggin’

I’ll be participating in the ThinkProgress group liveblog, plus some sporadic commentary (and post-debate commentary) over here.

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