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Dingell: ‘Nobody In This Country Realizes That Cap And Trade Is A Tax, And It’s A Great Big One!’

Conservatives are celebrating that influential Detroit lawmaker Rep. John Dingell (D-MI), the former chairman of the House Energy and Commerce Committee, argued Friday that “nobody knows” that a cap on global warming pollution amounts to a “great big” tax. Questioning Vice President Al Gore, Dingell argued that Congress needs to choose between “cap and trade” and an “energy tax” to finance a green recovery:

We’ve got to finance this and we’ve got to enforce it. Cap and trade is one mechanism, an energy tax is another. Every economist says that a carbon tax is a better, more efficient, fairer way of doing it. The Europeans have had two, maybe three fine failures in their application of cap and trade. How do we avoid the mistakes that they made? And how do we come up with something that gives us the best? Nobody in this country realizes that cap and trade is a tax, and it’s a great big one! I want to get a bill that works — how do we choose the best course?

Watch it:

Rep. John Boehner (R-OH), the National Review, the Drudge Report, and other right-wingers have seized on Dingell’s comments. Rep. Mike Pence’s (R-IN) spokesman pushed the comments to Politico, claiming: “Chairman Dingell agrees with what Republicans have been saying all along: the Democrat cap and trade bill is a national energy tax on working families.” However, Dingell has proposed both carbon-tax and cap-and-trade legislation to stop giving polluters the right to continue polluting for free.

Vice President Gore responded that both a carbon tax and market-based cap can address the climate crisis while strengthening the economy:

I have for twenty years supported a CO2 tax that’s given back to the people so that it’s revenue-neutral but accomplishes the desired effect. But I’ve never proposed it as a substitute for cap and trade. I’m in favor of both. And the number of countries that have done the best job of addressing the climate crisis and strengthening their economies have in fact put both in place. But I believe the cap-and-trade approach is the essential first step partly because it is the only basis on which we can envision a truly global agreement, because it’s very hard to imagine a harmonized global tax.

Countries like Denmark, Norway, and Holland which have both a carbon tax and cap-and-trade are indeed weathering the global recession much better than countries like the United States. In fact, Denmark is both the most taxed country on earth and the best country for business in the world.

It is our nation’s dependence on polluting fuels that acts as a tax on society — “a great big one.” As corporations pollute for free, everyone else pays for the disease, asthma, heat waves, droughts, floods, storms, sea level rise, and economic and national insecurity that results. Dingell has spent his political career misguidedly fighting pollution and efficiency standards on behalf of the domestic automotive industry, putting Detroit on the verge of bankruptcy. As millions of Americans understand, it’s time for Washington to repower America with laws that reward work instead of pollution.

Politics

FLASHBACK: Powell’s U.N. Speech On Iraq Took Senate’s Attention Away From Bybee Confirmation Hearings

In a new video titled “The Problem of Jay Bybee,” American News Project’s David Murdoch asks how Bybee could have been confirmed by the U.S. Senate in Feb. 2003 for a lifetime appointment as a federal judge despite authoring memos justifying the legality of torture.

The answer is partly due to the fact that the Senate had no knowledge of Bybee’s role in the Bush administration’s authorization of torture because no secret memos on the subject had yet to be released. “Had the Senate known about these memos, there’s simply no way Bybee ever would have been confirmed as a federal judge to begin with,” Harpers editor Scott Horton noted.

Another reason the Senate let Bybee’s nomination fly through unchallenged was perhaps due to the fact that on the same day as his hearing, then-Secretary of State Colin Powell was delivering a speech to the United Nations making the case for invading Iraq. “Bybee was greatly advantaged by an accident,” Yale law professor Bruce Ackerman noted:

ACKERMAN: So almost all the Senators were watching the TV outside the hearing room. All the Democrats were. This was of central importance for the Democratic senators in particular to define their position, one could appreciate why they were watching the tube than questioning Judge Bybee. So there was no critical questioning at all at the hearing room and that does not normally happen.

Indeed, near the conclusion of the February 5, 2003 hearing, Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-UT) heaped praise on Bybee: “I don’t know of anybody who has any more qualification or any greater ability in the law than you have and that’s counting some pretty exceptional people.” Watch ANP’s video:

Please join our campaign calling on Congress to begin impeachment hearings against Jay Bybee.

Update

On Special Report tonight, Fox News highlighted ThinkProgress’ campaign calling for the impeachment of Jay Bybee. “Democrats are getting a lot of pressure from left-leaning groups who are after Bybee’s hide,” Fox’s Brian Wilson reported, while flashing an on-screen image of ThinkProgress.

Fox also reported that Jon Summers, a spokesman for Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV), said that Bybee “has a good reputation in Nevada, where he serves.” Reid’s spokesman added that the Senator “does not believe there should be a rush to judgment.” Watch it:

Politics

Military agency warned Bush administration in 2002 that its interrogation program was ‘torture.’

In a July 2002 document uncovered by the Washington Post, the military’s Joint Personnel Recovery Agency warned that the Bush administration’s interrogation program was “torture” and that it would produce “unreliable information.” JPRA is the military agency that ran the program known as Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape (SERE), “which trains pilots and others to resist hostile questioning.” JPRA warned in the 2002 document:

The unintended consequence of a U.S. policy that provides for the torture of prisoners is that it could be used by our adversaries as justification for the torture of captured U.S. personnel.

Update

The Aug. 1, 2002 Bybee torture memo addressed to CIA legal counsel John Rizzo makes reference to the JPRA. “Your on-site psychologists have also indicated that JPRA has likewise not reported any significant long-term mental health consequences from the use of the waterboard.” Did Bybee know that JPRA viewed such techniques as torture?

Health

Businesses Struggling To Provide Domestic Partnership Benefits To Their Employees

equaltaxesrights.jpgToday, the Department of Health and Human Services released a report detailing how skyrocketing health care costs are “making it impossible for many small businesses to provide insurance to their employees.” During a roundtable discussion with small business owners and their representatives, Kate Karasmeighan of the National Gay and Lesbian Chamber of Commerce (NGLCC) highlighted businesses’ efforts to provide health care benefits to the partners of gay and lesbian employees:

I was shocked to from out from many of our members with whom we did a survey a few months ago that these employers who want to give full benefits to all of their employees have either stopped giving employees benefits for their families so they are not extending that option for all their employees’ families or they are not giving that option to their LGBT employees who have families.

Listen:

While federal law allows married workers who receive family health insurance benefits to deduct the value of that coverage from taxable income, workers who are unmarried and have domestic partners are required to pay taxes on the fair market value of their coverage. As a result, “employees with partner health benefits now pay on average $1,069 per year more in taxes than would a married employee with the same coverage.” As CAP’s ‘Unequal Taxes on Equal Benefits‘ concluded, “collectively, unmarried couples lose $178 million per year to additional taxes.”

Moreover, since the extra income “also increases the employer’s payroll taxes,” employers pay a total of “$57 million per year in additional payroll taxes because of this unequal tax treatment.” Only about 22 percent of employers cover the same-sex partners of their employees and 28 percent cover different-sex partners.”

“The question of either taking that option away from people so they can be equitable to everyone or taking more on in the cost of payroll, so kind of making up the difference in salary for LGBT employees, or just not giving those options to LGBT employees has been a huge problem…every person at this table who is a small business owner has an LGBT employee and is facing the same issue,” Karasmeighan explained at the roundtable.

In 2007, then-Senator Barack Obama co-sponsored the ‘Tax Equity for Domestic Partner and Health Plan Beneficiaries Act,’ which would “amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to extend the exclusion from gross income for employer-provided health coverage to designated plan beneficiaries of employees.”

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Politics

Gingrich uses climate change hearing to personally slam Gore.

Today, both Newt Gingrich and Al Gore testified before Congress on the Waxman-Markey clean energy economy legislation. While Gore spent the majority of his time explaining the global warming crisis and how investing in clean energy can simultaneously solve the problems of climate, economy and national security, Gingrich chose to spend his time launching into a set of attacks focused at Gore:

GINGRICH: I am an amateur paleontologist. I would be glad to take the Vice President to the Smithsonian or the American Museum of Natural History, where we can all look at all sorts of marine invertebrate life, which is collected as fossils because in fact, they use carbon quite effectively.

ThinkProgress assembled a compilation of Gingrich’s personal attacks on Gore. Watch it:

As ThinkProgress has noted, Gingrich appeared last year in ads for Gore’s “We” campaign, promoting the reduction of greenhouse gas emissions. Republican members present at the hearing appeared to mimic Gingrich’s strategy, spending their time hurling personal attacks at Gore and his credibility, rather than discussing the legislation or the science underpinning climate change.

Yglesias

Good Faith

Via Ryan Powers, Representative Peter King (R-NY) outs himself as a huge torture enthusiast, saying “I think that Judge Bybee should be given a medal for what he did.” But he also argues that even if Bybee is a bad guy, he’s not a guy who deserves impeachment:

I think that Judge Bybee should be given a medal for what he did. But even if I disagreed with those memos, these are memos written in good faith. These well written, well reasoned memos. People may disagree with them, but he belongs on the bench. He should stay on the bench. And I think talk of impeaching him or going after him is again the worst type of political vindictiveness.

This argument from good faith is tactically convenient, so I don’t know how we can prove a lack of good faith. But it doesn’t seem relevant to me. If Bybee was acting in bad faith, just pretending to think torture is legal to please his boss, then that indicates a lack of professional ethics. But if Bybee was acting in good faith—if he genuinely believes that waterboarding somebody dozens of times doesn’t constitute “severe suffering” because it’s “simply a controlled acute episode” then we have a sociopath of some kind on the bench. I’m not 100 percent sure which is better.

In all honesty, though, I have serious doubts that anyone could, in good faith, offer “As we explained in the Section 2340A Memorandum, ‘pain and suffering’
(as used in Section 2340) is best understood as a single concept, not distinct concepts of ‘pain’ as distinguished from ‘suffering’” as a legal basis for inflicting suffering on someone.

Yglesias

Is Social Security on the Chopping Block?

Not to get anyone too alarmed, but Ezra Klein’s 4:34 PM blog post offers some indication that Kent Conrad’s price for agreeing to give the American people the health care reform they voted for in 2008 was letting him mess around with cutting Social Security. Then in his 4:45 PM blog post we learn that in addition to Budget Committee Chairman John Spratt, the House Democrats will be sending Rosa DeLauro (D-CT) and Allen Boyd (D-FL) to represent them on the conference committee.

Boyd, if you think back to 2005, was the only Democrat to support privatizing Social Security, back when that was on the table. Lots of Blue Dogs in the House. One Blue Dog supported privatizing Social Security. And that’s who they picked.

Update

To be clear, the Conference Committee isn’t going to privatize Social Security. But even though there are two more Democrats on the Committee than Republicans, two of the Democrats—Conrad and Boyd—want to mess around with Social Security. So you have a majority on hand to recommend some kind of funny business, presumably a commission.

Yglesias

The Cultural Contradictions of Capitalism

I’ve heard it speculated, and even done some speculating myself, that the reason “socialism” is growing in popularity is that you have so many hideously unpopular right-wingers saying the broadly popular Barack Obama is a socialist.

An alternative hypothesis is that this Amstel Light ad is leading some to conclude that socialist Europe is not quite the dystopia Mitch McConnell’s been warning about:

I’m not really an Amstel fan, but there’s no denying that Amsterdam is great. Beyond the obvious, they’ve got some very interesting early childhood policies there and delicious Indonesian food.

Politics

Gingrich adds new term to coal industry’s propaganda lexicon: ‘green coal.’

In testimony before the House Energy and Commerce Committee today, Newt Gingrich suggested a number of alternatives to implementing the Waxman-Markey clean energy economy legislation, which Gingrich called a “massive energy tax increase.” In the course of summarizing a few of these alternatives, Gingrich added a new term to the coal industry’s propaganda lexicon by calling on Congress to incentivize research on and the development of “green coal” technology:

GINGRICH: I do think that green coal and carbon sequestration is the most important single breakthrough we can make. … Unless you get to an affordable green technology for coal there is no possibility that American developments are going to affect the amount of carbon in the atmosphere.

Watch it:

Of course, there is no such thing as “clean” or “green” coal. As Jeff Biggers wrote recently in the Washington Post, “No matter how ‘cap ‘n trade’ schemes pan out in the distant future for coal-fired plants, strip mining and underground coal mining remain the dirtiest and most destructive ways of making energy. Coal ain’t clean. Coal is deadly.”

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