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Fred Thompson, Global Warming Denier and Sun Worshiper

fred_thompson.jpgHe’s running for President now, so let’s revisit his climate change confusion. He took some standard Denier myths — and threw in a dash of his own unwarranted sarcasm — to create this mishmash on the Paul Harvey radio show:

Plutonic Warming

By Fred Thompson

Some people think that our planet is suffering from a fever. Now scientists are telling us that Mars is experiencing its own planetary warming: Martian warming. It seems scientists have noticed recently that quite a few planets in our solar system seem to be heating up a bit, including Pluto.

NASA says the Martian South Pole’s “ice cap” has been shrinking for three summers in a row. Maybe Mars got its fever from earth. If so, I guess Jupiter’s caught the same cold, because it’s warming up too, like Pluto.

This has led some people, not necessarily scientists, to wonder if Mars and Jupiter, non signatories to the Kyoto Treaty, are actually inhabited by alien SUV-driving industrialists who run their air-conditioning at 60 degrees and refuse to recycle.

Silly, I know, but I wonder what all those planets, dwarf planets and moons in our SOLAR system have in common. Hmmmm. SOLAR system. Hmmmm. Solar? I wonder. Nah, I guess we shouldn’t even be talking about this. The science is absolutely decided. There’s a consensus.

Ask Galileo.

I thought Thompson was a member of the Churches of Christ, not a heliolater or perhaps a Druid. I have previously debunked this bit of denier disinformation and will expand on the key facts below — especially his misguided sun worship.

What is saddest to me — besides the possibility he might actually become president — is the ease with this otherwise intelligent man believes the entire scientific community somehow failed to examine the contribution of the sun to recent global warming.

His Law and Order alter ego D.A. Arthur Branch would not be so easily duped. He would demand evidence. Here it is:

Mars does appear to be experiencing short-term regional warming, not long-term global warming, as the climate scientists of Realclimate.org have explained.

Jupiter is not experiencing global warming, but it is poised to experience regional climate change, “getting warmer near the equator and cooler at the poles,” as a U.C. Berkeley scientist noted last year.

As for Pluto, an MIT article explains “Pluto’s orbit is much more elliptical than that of the other planets, and its rotational axis is tipped by a large angle relative to its orbit. Both factors could contribute to drastic seasonal changes.” One of the scientists involved in the research explained, Pluto’s warming was “likely not connected with that of the Earth. The major way they could be connected is if the warming was caused by a large increase in sunlight. But the solar constant–the amount of sunlight received each second–is carefully monitored by spacecraft, and we know the sun’s output is much too steady to be changing the temperature of Pluto“– or of the Earth, for that matter: “The sunspot record and neutron monitor data,” as Realclimate.org explains, “show that solar activity has not increased since the 1950s and is therefore unlikely to be able to explain the recent warming.”

This last point is key. The causal link between the Earth’s warming and the alleged warming of other planets would have to be solar activity. But a recent study has shown that solar activity, including cosmic rays, are not responsible for recent planetary warming. The study (subs. no longer req’d) concluded:

Here we show that over the past 20 years, all the trends in the Sun that could have had an influence on the Earth’s climate have been in the opposite direction to that required to explain the observed rise in global mean temperatures.

Want more facts? A new debunking website, Skeptical Science, has a nice post on this. They explain that “The study most quoted by skeptics actually concluded the sun can’t be causing global warming.” Doh!

And they list a bunch of other studies dismissing or minimizing the sun’s contribution:

  • Foukal 2006 concludes “The variations measured from spacecraft since 1978 are too small to have contributed appreciably to accelerated global warming over the past 30 years.”
  • Usoskin 2005 conclude “during these last 30 years the solar total irradiance, solar UV irradiance and cosmic ray flux has not shown any significant secular trend, so that at least this most recent warming episode must have another source.”
  • Stott 2003 increased climate model sensitivity to solar forcing and still found “most warming over the last 50 yr is likely to have been caused by increases in greenhouse gases.”
  • Solanki 2003 concludes “the Sun has contributed less than 30% of the global warming since 1970.”
  • Lean 1999 concludes “it is unlikely that Sun-climate relationships can account for much of the warming since 1970”.
  • Waple 1999 finds “little evidence to suggest that changes in irradiance are having a large impact on the current warming trend.”
  • Frolich 1998 concludes “solar radiative output trends contributed little of the 0.2°C increase in the global mean surface temperature in the past decade”

Only a pagan would continue to worship at the altar of the sun-explains-everything religion.

8 Responses to Fred Thompson, Global Warming Denier and Sun Worshiper

  1. IANVS says:

    Joe, These guys are anything but pagan. Try fundamentalist.

  2. Macromeda says:

    Fred Thompson has regular recourse to the logical fallacy “the appeal to ridicule”. Politicos regularly commit this fallacy when mocking each other’s campaigns, but Thompson also commits it quite often when giving opinions on social issues in general. He also likes to conclude with a rhetorical flourish – the “Thompson dig” (like that consensus-Gallileo crack). The blogosphere should let Thompson know that “a clever dig ain’t a solution!”

  3. raj says:

    joe,

    you just lost all credibility in my mind. Don’t go bashing pagan to
    attack Fred. Pagan invented what you call civilization.
    If there is anything in this world that should be worshiped it is the Sun
    without it there would be no life.
    Without pagan the monotheistic religions are nothing but little drivel.

  4. Fran Manns says:

    It’s not solar irradiance alone.
    It’s not sunspots alone.
    It’s not CO2 above 18 C.
    it’s not water vapour alone.
    It’s not cosmic radiation alone.’
    But it may be cosmic and solar radiation modulated by solar magnetic activity subltly changing the cloud albedo of Earth.

    Beware the unintended consequences of sequestering plant food during the famine.

  5. Fran Manns says:

    People find what they look for and the minute a scientist believes his own hypothesis, he’s a dead duck as a scientist.

  6. Javier says:

    Reflection on the global warming.

    Unchecked pollution, and if nothing is done soon, it will be too late to take steps to slow global warming, because it will come to such a degree that the warming will no longer view point of return and that alone will happen in the coming decades. It is said that in this century global temperature of the Earth will increase from 1 to 6 degrees, perhaps nothing does not seem at first glance. But increased by grade level will bring very drastic consequences. When the ground reaches 3rd level of increase will no longer be able to do anything, because the warming is going to turn uncontrollable and lead to the disappearance of the Amazon because of huge fires that are going to be impossible to stop, that is very serious because automatically cause the temperature rises 1 or 2 degrees. And well the 4th grade, sea level rise due to melting of the poles of Antarctica, disappearing all countries with coasts, or that costs will be the South American 1eras seriously affected. Apart melting in Antarctica today is already a reality. This happening in a more accelerated what was predicted. The volume containing all bodies of ice existing in the planet, could cause the sea level rose from 60 to 70 m! It is going to see supertormentas never before seen, and this enormous disaster will happen much sooner than we think, maybe even what we live, but so are our children. These are some of the innumerable consequences that will bring climate change and indeed perhaps there are many other things that neither we, nor imagine that they can get to happen. Climate change and what we are living. Major natural disasters that occurred before each decades, now increasingly occur more often. These phenomena occur with ever more frequency and intensity. The shedding of large blocks of ice is occurring in at the poles, ice masses giants hundred km. square. While the release of those blocks that collapse will not have an effect on sea level rise, it means a warning that something is not amiss, because those such landslides are not unusual, it is because of global warming as scientists point out . And that is the area most affected by warming, and Antarctica is the area that suffered most to the increase in temperature. Obviously this planet we say that this reaches its limit, and this warning us. We are in an era in which we must take proper account of the environment and learn to survive what we are going to face, which will be a very tough battle for survival, not because we are going to cheat, little is going to do for this issue, or when actually find a solution because it will be too late. And the underdeveloped countries will suffer the greatest impact. This would cause enormous global crises in the economic and human losses. Wars over scarce natural resources, and one of the main causes is by water scarcity. It is very difficult, because we must change the mentality of people, change our ways of living, and that is not an overnight. And there are other interests through playing, the profit motive and expansion of the 1st world countries and those of developing countries, affecting more even look for new alternatives that are eco-development, such an alternative is solar and wind energy but also other possibilities exist. So it is very difficult to change a system already dominant globally that governs our society. Otherwise we can perhaps say that the big culprit is the capitalist system, but speaking from the stage of industrial development. The industries are deriving the large percentage of greenhouse gases that harm the environment. But we think that is going to do much more for this cause and that the man be convinced that there is no other if we want our preservation. Man is an animal usual for that side emerges perhaps some hope, but we do not have much time. We must seek solutions to prevent such predictions of climatic disasters that do not occur and not seek solutions to face them in tomorrow. Prevention is better than cure fits very well in this issue. And I think one thing is certain the economic cost would be greatly enhanced if we continue at the same rants, which means cities rebuild depleted by natural disasters that actually happens but will become somewhat more common and more destructive power, possible new diseases that may occur, the scarcity of resources would make certain that these were of very high cost to achieve them, and this is very clear, not everyone can access them, will be very few, there will be wars over them, and good due to the increased level Sea, countries with fewer resources can not be saved. And the richest countries seek solutions to build, blocks species barrier wall to prevent giants are under water. What is an injustice because perhaps they can save a few, those with more resources and are more powerful, which in turn are those that pollute more. Can you imagine what could become the economic cost? would be astronomical figures, but most importantly
    certainly is the human cost that this will cause. No doubt that this education will be key, since the institutes and households. It is time to really know and act. It can no longer be ignored, but details more details, climate change is a reality and is largely due to the action of man, so I have no doubt. I believe that the climate undergoes natural changes but I think that man has accelerated this process. But apart think this, what do we leave them to those who come to future generations and other living things? Many people think that perhaps this might happen, but you downplay because they think that they will play in their lives or who will move in a long time, but as I said earlier, with those who will come? Suffered the consequences of what they did their predecessors.
    Then I will say more in detail which can cause increased by grade level according to Mark Lynas in a book he wrote entitled “Six Degrees” (six degrees).
    A degree more: it would remove the arctic ice.
    Lynas raises the disappearance of arctic ice for half a year if the temperature rises one degree centigrade. In addition, the tides could submerge all houses on the coast of the Bay of Bengal, between Burma and India, where inhabit more than one million people. It would have hurricanes in the South Atlanta, severe droughts in the western United States are located where cities like San Diego, San Francisco, Las Vegas and Los Angeles and would be unexpected changes in farming in England, where there are over 400 wineries.
    Over 2 degrees: No more barriers reefs.
    It would accelerate the melting of glaciers of Greenland. The Jakobshavn Glacier would follow that if portions of ice melts would be sufficient to supply drinking water to all residents of New York for one year. The extinction of polar bears would not be going back and insects could begin to migrate to many regions that have become more temperate, a fact that is already evident in parts of Brazil, Venezuela and Colombia. The island nation of Tuvalu in the South Pacific, could be submerged by tidal barriers and reefs disappear, because not stand the increase in water temperature.
    Over 3 degrees: the threat would fall on the Amazon jungle
    The snow will end up in the Alps and heat waves would be the norm in the Mediterranean and in the middle of Central Europe. The hurricanes of Category 6, worse than Katrina, would be more frequent and the Amazon jungle could disappear by the spread of fires.
    More 4 degrees: Venice would disappear and part of Egypt. The melting of glaciers in the Himalayas, which feed the Ganges River, would occur before 2035. The floods are frequent. In addition, it produces water without snow, there would be famine. The northern Canada became the most prolific agricultural area of the planet and ice in western Antarctica could collapse by raising the sea level until the destruction of coastal areas of americas America. It was also completely flood Venice (Italy) and areas of Egypt and Bangladesh.
    Over 5 degrees: there would be no water for Los Angeles, Cairo, Lima or Mumbai.
    Faced with such a scenario, the war in the liquid would be imminent, a situation that many of the world’s experts have announced.
    Over 6 degrees: we returned to Cretaceous period.
    For lack of nutrients, and to the extinction of more than 70 percent of species, the ocean would be bright blue. Deserts advance on the continents. The disaster would be a matter of every day and many major world cities, like New York would be underwater. The world could resemble the Cretaceous period, 144 million years ago, in which only 18 per cent of the Earth’s surface was on the water level, that figure today is close to 30 percent.
    I am convinced and I firmly believe in this. I also believe that this century will be key because it will mark the course of humanity. I think we are at the right time to change or condemn us to extinction.
    Let me that I accept and respect for people who disagree, only express my thoughts.
    This simply is aimed to inform and raise awareness.
    I know that not long ago, that really what is the action would cause changes, but the information is also very important, awareness is the 1st step.
    Of course I want to make something more but so far as not.
    At the moment I’m finishing secondary. Then I want to do and then make meteorology degree in atmospheric science. Because I’m interested in studying the behavior and climate variability and the consequences that brings so much and can bring climate change.
    If someone wants to contact me, or if I can advise that I have all options for further study of atmospheric sciences, my mail is: locomotiv313@hotmail.com
    Since I already thank you very much for this blog for giving me the opportunity to leave this message and so many others.
    I take to communicate across these blogs dealing with the issue of climate change or global warming because the people who visit is more likely to be interested in this topic.
    Thank you very much.
    A big greeting

  7. reba says:

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