Koch Industries thinks calling people ˜Hitler Youth is an ˜honest debate

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After Greenpeace detailed the efforts of the Koch Industries’ billionaire brothers to pollute energy policy and deny the threat of global warming, Koch Industries communications director Melissa Cohlmia attempted to greenwash their record:

Both a free society and the scientific method require an open and honest airing of all sides, not demonizing and silencing those with whom you disagree. We’ve strived to encourage an intellectually honest debate on the scientific basis for claims of harm from greenhouse gases.

Americans for Prosperity “” founded, funded, and overseen by David Koch “” claims to be trying to build that “free society” by “educating citizens about economic policy and mobilizing those citizens as advocates in the public policy process.” So far, they’re not doing a very good job of engaging in an “intellectually honest debate” without “demonizing and silencing those with whom you disagree”:

‘Hitler Youth.’ At an Americans for Prosperity event in December 2009, guest speaker Christopher Monckton called youth climate activists “Hitler Youth.” He told a Jewish youth climate activist whose grandparents escaped the Nazis that he was “Hitler Youth,” and that “you people don’t care” that “millions are dying in third world countries.” Americans for Prosperity again featured Christopher Monckton at a regional summit in March 2010. [The Times, 12/11/09]

[JR:  See Lord Monckton meltdown: “I’m not going to shake the hands of Hitler youth” and TVMOB hate speech shocker: Lord Monckton repeats and expands on his charge that those who embrace climate science are “Hitler youth” and fascists.]

‘Radical Global Warming Agenda.’ “President Obama is at again,” the Americans for Prosperity Regulation Reality Tour warns, with a “radical global warming agenda” by “unelected bureaucrats regulating our life,” “ignoring the entire democratic process all together.” Supposed threats of “EPA’s power grab” include “Grass Mileage Standards,” “Government Control of your Thermostat,” “Churches would need EPA Permits,” and The tour features “EPA Carbon Cops” who want to punish you if you “opened your refrigerator” or “drove a car.” [RegulationReality.com]

‘Al Gore’s Global Warming Alarmism.’ The Americans for Prosperity Hot Air Tour told people to “rally against Al Gore’s global warming alarmism” and “propaganda advanced by global warming alarmists,” claiming “global warming alarmism” means “fewer jobs,” “less freedom,” and a “government that controls your home thermostat remotely.” The Hot Air Tour flew a balloon over Al Gore’s “energy-guzzling mansion” in Tennessee with the message “Global Warming Alarmism.” [HotAirTour.org]

‘We Might As Well Forget Freedom.’ The Americans for Prosperity Hot Air Tour says that “far left environmentalists” are “radicals” with a “radical Global Warming ideology that claims people are the problem” who “want GOVERNMENT to force us to drive less and live in smaller homes while killing jobs that help grow our economy” and “want GOVERNMENT dictating our lives.” [HotAirTour.org]

Cohlmia told the Wonk Room that “AFP is an independent organization and Koch companies do not in any way direct their activities.” This is a remarkable claim, as Koch Industries executive vice presidents and directors Charles Koch and Richard Fink are also directors of the Americans for Prosperity Foundation.

This was a Wonk Room repost.

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12 Responses to Koch Industries thinks calling people ˜Hitler Youth is an ˜honest debate

  1. prokaryote says:

    I’m looking forward to the trials of Koch’s dirty buisness.

  2. Mike says:

    Doesn’t putting the Koch brothers’ photos on a wanted posted also constitute “demonizing”?

    [JR: You make an interesting moral equivalence between, on the one hand, those who are spending millions to engage in disinformation and character assassination aimed at stopping action on the greatest threat to the health and well-being of our children and grandchildren and countless future generations, and on the other hand, those who are trying to hold these serial disinformers accountable.]

  3. Jeff Huggins says:

    Expressing Your Values via Buying Choices

    (As I commented before, but in case more/new people begin to read about Koch …)

    Most people don’t know whether they buy Koch products, because most of them are sold under various brand names and many of them are not consumer brands.

    But, these products and brands are owned by Koch according to their website (you can check for yourself too) and according to my understanding:

    Brawny paper towels
    Angel Soft bath tissues
    Quilted Northern bath tissues
    Soft ‘n Gentle bath tissues
    Dixie cups, paper plates and bowls, and napkins
    Mardi Gras paper towels and napkins
    Sparkle paper towels
    Vanity Fair and Zee napkins

    These products/brands are owned and marketed by Georgia-Pacific, and Koch owns Georgia-Pacific. Check these brands out on the Koch website or, in more detail, on the Georgia-Pacific website.

    So, if you want to do something (by not buying their products) about the Koch problem, you should definitely stop buying the products listed above, in my view. Companies pay the most attention when money is involved. One doesn’t need to be an economist to realize that.

    As for what Koch’s spokespeople say, all I can say is this: “Give us a break!”

    Jeff

  4. mike roddy says:

    I like your idea of a product boycott, Jeff. As much as I would love to see the Kochs in prison, they’ve got too much juice and too many lawyers. It would take a really gutsy prosecutor, like Ronnie Earle, but those guys are a dying breed.

    Michael Brune, who I know, is the new president of the Sierra Club. Michael executed some really effective boycotts when he was at Rainforest Action Network, including against Home Depot and Citibank. Maybe we should approach him about it.

  5. Pete Salazar says:

    I think Jeff left off the fibers division. Koch purchased a long list of fiber brands from Dupont. Spandex and many others are patented. I personnaly don’t care to wear wool biking shorts.

  6. prokaryote says:

    Are there no europe companys in Koch’s portfolio?

  7. CruelIrony says:

    I would willingly contribute to a fund to raise a monument with the names of Monckton, Koch brothers, Lord Lawson and the rest of the denialist crew attached so that future generations can pay homage to the wisdom of those named for saving the world from climate change “fascists” and prolonged freedom and the American dream.

    Of couse future generations (when they discover the monumnet buried as it will by then have been)may decide to rename the monument; In the age of stupid here are the giants.

  8. David B. Benson says:

    Look on my works, ye mighty, and despair

  9. Mike says:

    Regrading #2 and JR’s response:

    I made no such equivalence. I do claim that putting our ideological opponent’s photo on a wanted poster is demonizing them. It is good that Green Peace exposed Koch Industries role in funding anti-science propaganda. But, we need to reach the people in the middle, those who are not sure who is right or who to trust. I think we will better reach these people by taking the high road.

    This is a minor disagreement however. We are on the same side.

  10. Peter Wood says:

    Should what they are doing be called KochGate?