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As world burns, CNN skeptic Chad Myers finally admits global warming ˜is caused by man

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One of America’s most influential global warming skeptics, CNN meteorologist Chad Myers, has finally admitted that global warming is “caused by man.” Brad Johnson has the story.

During the hottest year ever recorded, following the hottest decade ever recorded, Russia is burning under heat not seen for at least 1000 years. Heat waves have set records throughout the United States and throughout the world. A monsoon season of unprecedented intensity has displaced tens of millions of people across Asia, threatening the nuclear states of China, Pakistan, India, and North Korea. The largest iceberg to calve from Greenland in fifty years has added to its precipitous decline of ice mass since 1980. Decades ago, scientists predicted these consequences of burning fossil fuels and heating the planet.

Yesterday, in what CNN anchor Rick Sanchez billed a “good, smart conversation,” Myers actually recognized the reality of a “consequential global warming caused by man,” when not repeating climate-denier talking points:

Is it caused by man? Yes. Is it 100% caused by man? No. There are other things involved. We are now in the sun spot cycle. We are now in a very hot sun cycle. there are many other things going on. But, yes, a significant portion of this is caused by greenhouse gases keeping heat on the shore, on the land, in the atmosphere that could have escaped without those greenhouse gases, so, yes, it’s warmer. . ..

There is absolutely something going on here for this summer being the hottest and some of the water that we have in the Atlantic and the Gulf of Mexico the hottest ever on record which could cause a pretty significant hurricane season still to come.

Watch it:

Unfortunately, “scientist expert” Chad Myers (actually a bachelor-degree meteorologist, not a climate scientist) also made the blatantly false claim that we are “now in a very hot sun cycle.” In fact, the sun is just emerging from an extremely low two-year minimum of activity, with years to go before it will reach another peak. Since 1980, average solar irradiance has been on the decline, even as global temperatures have risen.

Myers has long abused his role at the “Most Trusted Name in News” to misinform the American public about the science of climate change. In October, 2005, Myers promoted the debunked idea of negative cloud feedback overwhelming global warming. In January, 2006, Myers promoted the debunked idea that urban heat islands were distorting official temperature records. In December, 2008, Myers told Lou Dobbs “to think that we could affect weather all that much is pretty arrogant.” In April, 2010, Myers admitted the planet was warming, but accused climate scientists of corruption, questioned climate models, and implied that the sun is driving global warming.

Myers and Sanchez also promoted other denier canards, from petty jokes about Al Gore to a mention of winter in South America:

So it’s the coldest winter on record in Bolivia. Okay. So. Well does that counteract? Probably not. They’re having millions of fish killed because they’re freezing to death literally in Bolivia.

In fact, it is only the coldest winter in Bolivia in 47 years, not the “coldest winter on record.” In contrast, Russia, Myanmar, Pakistan, Kuwait, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Chad, Niger, Sudan, Belarus, Ukraine, Cyprus, Finland, Qatar, St Helena, Solomon Islands, and Columbia have all seen all-time record-high temperatures this year. The global average temperature is at or near record highs, far above the long-term average. Fortunately, global warming has not yet gotten so extreme that record lows are never set “” but they are now greatly outpaced by record highs.

It’s an encouraging sign that Myers is now speaking more truth than misinformation during the killer summer of 2010, but the damage of his years of propaganda can never be undone.

Transcript:

SANCHEZ: I want to bring in Chad Myers. I trust him when he looks at stuff like this. What’s your take?

MYERS: You have to understand that 10% of an iceberg is above water. Above the surface. 90% is below. So there’s an awful lot of ice down below that you can’t see. It’s like the oil we can’t find. There’s more below than on top.

SANCHEZ: If it’s floating, that means all that stuff is eventually going to melt.

MYERS: Wouldn’t it be great to drag that where they need it in Russia? Hook it up to a ship and drive it right off to Moscow and put all the fires out.

SANCHEZ: What do you make of the situation in Moscow? 700 people a day dying, serious.

MYERS: You have asthma, people with respiratory problems, and they are literally passing away in the heat and in the smoke. 104 was the high temperature in Moscow last week. They don’t have air conditioning. like the guy said this is like going up to Yellow Knife up into Canada. There’s no such thing as air conditioning up there. You don’t need it.

SANCHEZ: Let me ask you the $60,000 question people always ask when they look at situations like this. If you listen to the right, they will tell you, as soon as they see a big snowfall in the winter, [in loud person voice] “See? Al Gore? You’re wrong. There is no such thing as global warming.”

MYERS: Right. Whenever he tries to have a global warming conference it snows.

SANCHEZ: They say, see, you’re wrong. Which is as irresponsible, and these are my words not yours, but it would seem it’s as irresponsible as every time there’s a lot of hot weather to go out and say [in loud person voice] “See? There is global warming.” The fact of the matter is, these things happen. And you usually don’t want to draw media conclusions from any of it but there are people who will be out there and they will say, “Well, you got 700 people dying in Moscow. You got a heat wave in the United States. And now Rick Sanchez is showing me this thing floating out there off the coast of Antarctica.” Is there any reason they should make any kind of “”

MYERS: I don’t think there is any question this is one of the hottest summers on record for many people, for millions and millions of people.

SANCHEZ: So? So?

MYERS: So it’s the coldest winter on record in Bolivia. Okay. So. Well does that counteract? Probably not. They’re having millions of fish killed because they’re freezing to death literally in Bolivia.

SANCHEZ: Right. I guess what I’m getting at and putting pressure on you “”

MYERS: No, bring it on.

SANCHEZ: Okay. Is there anything from your perspective “” and I know you are one of many scientist experts out there “” that would lead you to believe that because these three things are happening right now we’re more apt to be able to prove or somebody out there is able to prove that there is a consequential global warming caused by man? That’s the big part of this question.

MYERS: Is it caused by man? Yes. Is it 100% caused by man? No. There are other things involved. We are now in the sun spot cycle. We are now in a very hot sun cycle. there are many other things going on. But, yes, a significant portion of this is caused by greenhouse gases keeping heat on the shore, on the land, in the atmosphere that could have escaped without those greenhouse gases, so, yes, it’s warmer.

SANCHEZ: Let me ask you one final question then since you say that. Is it possible that these things could have happened independent of all of that and just been a natural phenomenon that happens on earth from time to time? These three.

MYERS: It does happen from time to time. The problem is, yes, we have video of this island. Okay. 50 years ago do we have video of an ice island on Greenland?

SANCHEZ: No.

MYERZ: No.

SANCHEZ: But the guys on the Titanic wish they had.

MYERS: Some kind of radar, yes. exactly. And Moscow? There are more people living in Moscow now but those fires are amazing. Those are literally devastating fires.

SANCHEZ: A good point. Interesting the way you’re putting that in perspective. The difference is the media attention on the things at the time. That doesn’t mean it isn’t in effect but it doesn’t mean it is the only conclusive effect.

MYERS: No. there is definitely something going on. It’s like being a cafeteria meteorologist. I want to pick that today. I’ll pick that today. I’m going to have the jello. I’ll have the fudgesicle. Whatever it might be. There is absolutely something going on here for this summer being the hottest and some of the water that we have in the Atlantic and the Gulf of Mexico the hottest ever on record which could cause a pretty significant hurricane season still to come.

SANCHEZ: That’s a good, smart conversation. I thank you for having it with our viewers.

This Wonk Room cross-post is by Brad Johnson.

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24 Responses to As world burns, CNN skeptic Chad Myers finally admits global warming ˜is caused by man

  1. PSU Grad says:

    I like Chad Myers, I like the way he explains weather and science in general. Having said that….

    “We are now in the sun spot cycle.”

    Oh, come on! We are ALWAYS “somewhere” in the sun spot cycle.

    “We are now in a very hot sun cycle. ”

    No…we…are…not. We are still in a very prolonged solar minimum, only at the very beginning of solar cycle 24. I’ve heard the words Maunder Minimum thrown around, but that seems to be overstating things. In any case, this new cycle has a very long way to go until it reaches its peak.

  2. Tim L. says:

    Myers should just get it over with and move on to Faux News, where he’d fit in better with his and their brand of “just make stuff up” journalism. Sometimes it seems like some of these pseudo-scientist TV weather dudes simply adopt a denialist posture so the can sound superior to real climate scientists. Instead, they’re just showing themselves to be insecure weenies.

  3. Darksyde says:

    Wow, nice job on the solar cycle there, Chad. I don’t know if he really is that ignorant or that was an intentional whooper. Either way, seriously, this is the weather “expert” on “America’s most trusted name” in news? There isn’t anyone else with a better grip on the basic, high school science CNN could find?

  4. Lou Grinzo says:

    PSU Grad:

    Bingo! I shudder to think what will happen once we get the impacts of the current cycle ramping up as a kicker on top of plus humanity’s continued dash to aerosolize every ton of hydrocarbon we can gouge, suck, and bleed out of the earth.

    By the way, what’s the time lag between “more sun spots” and “warmer climate”?

    I’ll be interested to see how people like Myers react when we get the inevitable cold snap in winter or the next round of snow storms whacking Washington DC. The snow storms are just another sign of CC, of course — warmer air = more moisture aloft = more snow — not that I expect that particular “nuance” to be recognized by Fox and the Fox wannabes. I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised to see them backtrack shamelessly.

  5. Alan says:

    What can you expect from the station that fired its entire science staff?

  6. PSU Grad says:

    To those slamming Myers, I need to explain something. My wife and I would actually watch him in the mornings when he still did mornings (he apparently does afternoons/evenings now). Day after day he would explain the weather and various meteorological phenomena in outstanding fashion, and that was with all my BS detectors operating (it was, after all, the news). There were many times when I’d say “that is absolutely the best explanation of ‘whatever’ that I’ve ever heard”. He’d be on the money. He does truly know quite a bit about meteorology and generally communicates that understanding very well.

    So I’m at a loss to explain the whole sunspot thing, and any warming denial in general.

  7. Michael says:

    I think the part about the solar cycle is referring to the predictions from years ago that we would have a record or near-record solar cycle, which obviously isn’t happening (and he hasn’t kept up to date with it). Personally, I think the weaker the current cycle ends up being, the more obvious that it will be to some that the sun can’t be responsible (I also want it to be weak for that reason, although it will only take about 7 years off the warming trend).

    On the other hand, at least he admits that global warming is real and a significant part is from human greenhouse gas emissions. That is better than what some others say…

  8. Tim L. says:

    @PSU Grad: Fair enough. Some climate disinformationists are indeed excellent communicators. Maybe they get paid big bucks to promote denialist b.s. because they’re GOOD at it!

  9. Peter Mizla says:

    I may not be a meteorologist- or be ‘certified’- but I do know that we are at a sunspot minim- which means less heat- not more from the sun.

    Its surprising how some of these people in the media rise so high- considering they know less then many of us.

  10. Dana says:

    I just wish news shows would stop asking meteorologists about climate science. Maybe Myers is a terrific meteorologist who’s an expert on the weather, but he clearly doesn’t even understand even the most basic climate science. If you want to talk climate science, then invite a climate scientist onto the show. He won’t make absurdly wrong comments about “the sun spot cycle”, unlike Myers.

  11. RoySV says:

    Based on the material from this page, and especially the emphatically delivery lie about solar radiation, it is safe to say the following:

    Chad Myers is utterly incompetent or utterly dishonest. He has no credentials as a scientist and journalistically he is merely a hack smear artist.

    Please explain to me how CNN is different from Fox?

  12. Doug Bostrom says:

    That’s a good, smart conversation. I thank you for having it with our viewers.

    Uh-huh, and if that’s a smart conversation, boy are we ever screwed.

    Once again science fiction nails it. Anybody here read C.M. Kornbluth?

  13. Michael Tucker says:

    That entire transcript is a perfect example of why CNN is virtually impossible to watch.

  14. MarkB says:

    Sanchez referring to Myers as “scientific expert” is funny. A Bachelor’s degree in Meteorology and career as a TV weatherman does not qualify one to be an expert on climate.

    Regarding the solar cycle statement, Myers might have been thinking of the general notion that sunspots were higher in the 20th century than say the 18th century, although what “cycle” that constitutes remains unclear. Sunspots have been on a downward trend over the last 50 years, and the atmosphere has warmed rapidly, and the roughly 11-year cycle is near the bottom of a long valley.

  15. richard pauli says:

    I don’t watch much of TV pundits, so I am kind of shocked at the tone of the language here. It seems to be pandering to viewer emotions. It is not the kind of conversation I would want to hear or to join. Yuk.

  16. Gord says:

    Obviously Chad is not an amateur radio operator like I am.

    The lousy short wave band conditions for so long now are a testament to how inactive the sun is. It’s so bad some days I listen for awhile and turn off the rig.

  17. Bob Wallace says:

    “So I’m at a loss to explain the whole sunspot thing, and any warming denial in general.”

    He’s a meteorologist playing a climate scientist on TV. It’s like asking a podiatrist complex questions about neurosurgery. Or asking a neurosurgeon complex questions about foot mechanics.

    He’s not capable of answering the questions factually so he just makes stuff up.

    Someone really important should send him a letter in which his mistakes are explained in simple English. (Al Gore comes to mind. ;o)

    He should be directed to a site such as Skeptical Science so that he could quickly up to speed.

    And he should be warned that if he makes ridiculous statements like this again the letter will go public, showing him to be purposely ignorant, or worse….

  18. Wit'sEnd says:

    What a ridiculous, incoherent word salad, as bad as Sarah Palin when she is squirming to explain one of her lies.

  19. Berbalang says:

    I will watch CNN when they are giving an overview of the news. While they may far from perfect, they are much better than FAUX SPEWS. For one thing, they at least make a token effort to objectively report the news.

    FAUX makes not effort at all in this regard and is biased to the point of self-parody. It is like something out of the ILLUMINATUS TRILOGY. Picture replacing a flashing “ALERT” with a flashing “FNORD”.

    I sometimes watch MSNBC. Yes, it is biased, but Olbermann takes such great glee in segments like “Worst Person in the World” evertime Beck or Limbaugh says something stupid. It is truly a joy to watch. (I used to work against someone who listened to Limbaugh all the time. Without a radio. Rush would tell him to do things…terrible things…)

    The Daily Show and Colbert Report are probably the most watchable news sources on TV.

  20. John Mason says:

    I struggle to take anybody seriously who says, “We are now in the sun spot cycle.” To give the benefit of the doubt, perhaps it just came out wrong?

    Surely “We are now emerging from a significant solar minimum” is the accurate thing to say, and only involves one more word to the sentence.

    Cheers – John

  21. Kim says:

    Well, he’s right we’re in the middle of a “very hot solar cycle.” I’ve never known the sun to actually be _cold_. *ducks*

    Pheh. Ridiculous denialism.

  22. Tom Rooney says:

    MYERS: Is it caused by man? Yes. Is it 100% caused by man? No. There are other things involved.

    Myers, meet IPCC.

    “…the observed trend in global mean temperature over the past 100 years is unlikely to be entirely natural in origin. More importantly, there is evidence of an emerging pattern of climate response to forcings by greenhouse gases and sulphate aerosols in the observed climate record. Taken together, these results point towards a human influence on global climate.” [ch 8, summary, p 412].

  23. Doug M. says:

    I agree with Michael Tucker #13 above — looking at the transcipt, that entire conversation is pretty much gibberish, and it’s why I don’t watch TV news at all. When you’re done watching, you haven’t learned a damn thing — though perhaps one might be left with Mr. Chad’s words “there’s something going on…”, which could be a good thing.

    One thing: I think his statement

    “We are now in a very hot sun cycle.”

    may not be so ridiculously wrong, if you take it to mean on a larger time scale. According to the data on skepticalscience.com, increased solar radiation does correlate with the relative warming from the “little ice age” up to about 1960:

    http://www.skepticalscience.com/solar-activity-sunspots-global-warming.htm

    (with the departure from that correlation since then being another piece of evidence of anthropogenic global warming).

    So he’s “right” in saying that “a part” of why we’re warmer now than in, say, 1850, is due to the sun.

    But of course, he’s calling it a “solar cycle”, which is something he’s presuming exists on these larger timescales; he’s also saying the sun is “very hot” now, which I don’t think we know; it could be that the sun was just unusually cool during the “little ice age”, and now it’s just back to normal.

    Either that, or he is talking about the 11-year cycle, which means he is a complete idiot who doesn’t even know we’re at the minimum in that cycle, not the maximum.

  24. Chris Winter says:

    Doug Bostrom wrote: “Once again science fiction nails it. Anybody here read C.M. Kornbluth?”

    I presume you mean The Marching Morons.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Marching_Morons

    Yes, I’ve read it. Rather an extreme solution, but one that seems curiously attractive at times.