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Denier Rick Perry Takes $11 Million from Big Oil, Then Claims Climate Scientists ‘Manipulated Data’ For Money

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If you look up chutzpah in the dictionary, there is a picture of Rick Perry.  Perry has received millions of dollars from Big Oil to push its pro-pollution, anti-science agenda:

So what does Perry do when a questioner points out that the National Academy of Sciences and observed data utterly disagree with his disinformation on climate change?   He simply asserts with no evidence that a “substantial number” of climate scientists have “manipulated data” for money, as TP Green reports.  Here’s the background and the video:

At the Politics and Eggs breakfast in Bedford, NH, Perry was questioned by Jim Rubens, a former New Hampshire Republican legislator and technology investor, who noted that the National Academy of Sciences, which has advised presidents since its founding by Abraham Lincoln, has concluded that global warming is caused primarily by fossil fuels.“If observed scientific data and the National Academy of Sciences are both wrong on an issue involving thousands of scientists, and an issue as prominent as global warming,” Rubens asked, “doesn’t this call into question the entire science discovery process that forms the foundation of a hundred years of America’s technological preeminence?”

“You may have a point there,” Perry replied, arguing that “there are a substantial number of scientists who have manipulated data so that they will have dollars rolling into their projects”:

You may have a point there, because I do believe that the issue of global warming has been politicized. I think there are a substantial number of scientists who have manipulated data so that they will have dollars rolling into their projects. And I think we are seeing almost weekly or even daily scientists are coming forward and questioning the original idea that man-made global warming is what is causing the climate to change. Yes our climate’s changed, they’ve been changing ever since the earth was born. But I do not buy into a group of scientists who have in some cases found to be manipulating this information.

And the cost to the country and the world of implementing these anti-corbon programs is in the billions if not trillions of dollars at the end of the day. And I don’t think, from my perspective, that I want America to be engaged in spending that much money still on a scientific theory that has not been proven, and from my perspective, is being put more and more into question.

Watch video shot by ThinkProgress’ Travis Waldron:

Global warming has indeed been politicized by the fossil-fuel industry and the tea party extremists — but the degree of politicization is unique to this country, which should tell you all you need to know about its source (see National Journal: “The GOP is stampeding toward an absolutist rejection of climate science that appears unmatched among major political parties around the globe, even conservative ones”).

Anyone who knows actual scientists knows that they don’t do things for the money.  Indeed, it is quite safe to say very few become scientists if money is among the top things they are interested in.  In fact, virtually nothing is more important to a scientist than his or her professional reputation, which can be maintained only by doing research that can be reproduced by others.

It is understandable why Perry would project onto scientists the motivations of the pro-pollution politicians and lobbyists he hangs out with.   Virtually nothing is more important to them than money and the influence of its buys, which can be maintained only by making crap up.

It is understandable, perhaps, but not forgivable, since the health and well-being of our children and grandchildren and countless future generations –  billions of people — are at stake.

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Below are old comments from the earlier Facebook commenting system:

Cultural troglodytes like Bachmann, Palin, and Perry are blatantly abject failures of American education; the worst of all possible worlds where repertoires of unapologetic greed and self-aggrandizement combine with astounding deficits in knowledge of basic scientific facts and concepts. Giving people like this an opportunity to lead our country is like giving teenage boys cases of beer and loaded shotguns on a planet wide scale. The defense that “I was just following orders” didn’t cut it in trials of Nazi war criminals. The defense that “I was just trying to get rich” or “I was just stupid” should not work either. Koch brothers and Big Oil CEOs and their political stooges should be put on trial at the Hague for crimes against humanity.

15 · Like · Reply · Subscribe · August 18 at 12:21am

Mandy Henk · Top Commenter · Access Services Librarian at DePuaw University

Yes, but I think it’s a failure not of science education, but of moral education. These people think that it is OK to wreck the planet for riches. No matter how much you tell them about the harm they cause they won’t change their behavior because they don’t think they are doing serious harm. They are like moral idiots, or, to harken back to an older language, evil.

5 · Like · Reply · August 18 at 12:29pm

Mark Kendrick · Top Commenter · Works at Self employed

No. It’s not the failure of science education. Science education in this country is excellent. Too many parents of children in red states actively *decry* science education for their children. I know. I grew up in TX.

Like · Reply · August 19 at 12:48pm

William Schwartz

It’s an interesting question. How much of this climate science denial is delusion, lack of education or conflict of interest and greed? I have a feeling it is all of the above, but who knows..

Like · Reply · August 19 at 5:23pm

Christopher Winter · University of Iowa

Now that Rick Perry is in the race, I hope someone asks him some version of the following: If the global warming crisis is based on trumped-up data, why has no one come forward with the real data that show there is no reason for concern? Anyone presenting valid data that debunks AGW would have the world at their feet.

The same question should go to all candidates who deny climate change.

12 · Like · Reply · Subscribe · August 17 at 6:46pm

James Fenimore Cooper · Georgetown University

Perry and other Repubs will simply name Denier “scientists” and say they all back his statement.

1 · Like · Reply · August 18 at 2:19am

Leif Erik Knutsen · Top Commenter · Friends with Joseph Romm

One of these days an enterprising journalist will ask Perry to trot out some evidence to these claims being that the fate of humanity hangs in the balance and all. Something more robust than hear say.

6 · Like · Reply · Subscribe · August 17 at 6:02pm

Mark Jondahl · Portland, Oregon

Perry will reply, “That’s a gotcha question. I refuse to answer it.”

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Clifton Beroid · Top Commenter · California Coast University

Johann Wolfgang von Goethe said: “There is nothing more frightful than ignorance in action.” If that is true then Rick Perry is scaring the crap out of a lot of people.

6 · Like · Reply · Subscribe · August 17 at 8:29pm

Bart Laws · Top Commenter · Assistant Professor at Brown University

This Rick Perry character is evil, stupid, ignorant, bigoted, and hateful, among other adjectives I might apply to him. There has never been a more dangerous politician who was taken seriously as a presidential candidate in my lifetime, and that includes Barry Goldwater who wanted to nuke Vietnam.

What is most disturbing is not his insane beliefs and moral depravity, but the nature of his appeal. He managed to get himself elected governor of Texas and he’s now among the most popular of the Republican candidates precisely because of his bullying, his violent, eliminationist rhetoric and his contemptuous dismissal and vicious disparagement of everyone whose beliefs he finds inconvenient — in this instance climate scientists, in other instances the “traitor” Ben Bernanke and Barack Obama who “you’ll have to ask him” whether he loves his country. Perry’s charisma is that of a gangster, a psychopath who cuts down all the world’s difficulties and complexities with brute, unreflective, conscienceless force.

It turns out there are a whole lot of people out there who like that. He’s the kind of leader they’re looking for. It can happen here.

5 · Like · Reply · Subscribe · August 18 at 7:49am

John McCormick · Top Commenter

It has happened here and it will again but this time our childrens future is on the line and the democrats have 23 incuments in the Senate. Do the math.

Like · Reply · August 18 at 9:07am

Prokaryotes – · Top Commenter (signed in using Hotmail)

MICHELE BACHMANN: MAN-MADE CLIMATE CHANGE IS ‘MANUFACTURED SCIENCE’.

http://thinkprogress.org/green/2011/08/17/297902/michele-bachmann-man-made-climate-change-is-manufactured-science/

Both loons instructed by David Koch?

4 · Like · Reply · Subscribe · August 17 at 5:59pm

Peter S. Mizla · Top Commenter · Vernon, Connecticut

‘Manipulate Data’ Lets observe the climate anomalies we are watching and experiencing’. This man is a fool- We are all going to pay a huge price in the near future.

4 · Like · Reply · Subscribe · August 17 at 6:46pm

James Fenimore Cooper · Georgetown University

OK Rick. US scientists are just pushing global warming to get grants and enrich themselves­.

But why do national academies of science in countries world wide (Denmark, France, Russia, China, Brazil, Germany, Switzerlan­d, Italy, England, Australia, Austria, New Zealand, Spain, Canada, United States, Japan and many more) say global warming is real and it is man caused?

Are they ALL doing it to get grants? (by the way, academies of science do not get grants).

Rick – you are not running for office in Texas, nor simply speaking on Fox “News”. You are running for the highest office. This baloney does not work at this level.

2 · Like · Reply · Subscribe · August 18 at 2:19am

David Stockbridge Smith · Top Commenter · Apex, North Carolina

It might work… scary

1 · Like · Reply · August 18 at 10:30am

Prokaryotes – · Top Commenter (signed in using Hotmail)

HUNTSMAN SPOX: ‘SCIENCE CLEARLY WAS NOT A MANDATORY COURSE FOR GOV. PERRY’ http://thinkprogress.org/green/2011/08/17/298326/huntsman-spox-science-clearly-was-not-a-mandatory-course-for-governor-perry/

2 · Like · Reply · Subscribe · August 17 at 6:50pm

W Scott Lincoln · Slidell, Louisiana

That is basically the same set of talking points that many republican representatives, and almost all republican presidential candidates have been using. It sounds so familiar, it’s almost as if it wear handed to them by consultants who knew exactly what hardcore supporters needed to hear.

2 · Like · Reply · Subscribe · August 17 at 6:19pm

Richard Kimsey

It will be Perry and Bachmann – the moron dream team – time to start building bomb shelters in the back yard again.

1 · Like · Reply · Subscribe · Monday at 12:12am

Dick-Brenda Warneka · Michigan State MBA

Hey, we will vote for anyone over Obama! He recently said his best decision was picking Joe Biden as V-P–it’s easy to see why, but I won’t go there. Brenda

Like · Reply · Monday at 3:11pm

Richard Kimsey

You should look at Huntsman – as least he isn’t a delusional creationist wakko. He did a good job as Gov and is widely respected among liberals and conservatives, and he speaks fluent chinese, a great advantage as we try to keep certain people buying up the enormous debt incurred after 8 years of “gee lets start two wars and cut taxes” and other brilliant ideas. Perry and Bachmann are lap dogs for big oil and creationists. Ron Paul is worth a look as well, of course he is not the darling of wingnut fascist media so he probably doesn’t stand a chance.

Like · Reply · Monday at 5:41pm

Dick-Brenda Warneka · Michigan State MBA

I said we would vote for anyone over Obama! Huntsman is good, but he needs more face time. Dick-Brenda Warneka

Like · Reply · Monday at 5:51pm

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mtmariner101 (signed in using Yahoo)

We know Perry is a paid stooge of Big Oil and we know he will make any wild claim regarding global warming he thinks will attract supporters. For all Republicans it is the same: Money and influence ARE much more important than “…the health and well-being of our children and grandchildren and countless future generations – billions of people…” Perry and Bachmann and the rest are all the same and it does not matter how many billions suffer. If you think Romney is better ask him about cap ‘n trade or any other program to limit GHG emissions…he is not a supporter of future generations either.

1 · Like · Reply · Subscribe · August 17 at 6:12pm

Peter S. Mizla · Top Commenter · Vernon, Connecticut

This kind reminds me of economist Roger Babson On September 5, 1929, giving a speech saying, “Sooner or later a stock crash is coming, and it may be terrific. Most denied there was a problem and called Babson ‘unpatriotic’.

To draw a parallel with today- we have Perry and others who deny AGW- I wonder when this ‘crash’ is coming?

1 · Like · Reply · Subscribe · August 17 at 7:18pm

Patrick Linsley · Top Commenter · Plebian at W. W. Grainger

Perry is the modern day Irving Fisher here’s a quote from an amazingly wrong economist of the day (and Milton Freidman would become an acolyte of his go figure) “Stock prices have reached what looks like a permanently high plateau.”

1 · Like · Reply · August 18 at 12:07am

Patrick Linsley · Top Commenter · Plebian at W. W. Grainger

Oh sorry should reference that this was a quote from October of 1929.

Like · Reply · August 18 at 2:08pm

Paul Magnus · Top Commenter

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/08/17/rick-perry-climate-scientists-cooking-the-books_n_929876.html

Like · Reply · Subscribe · August 17 at 11:08pm

Mona Blaber

Read what ABC’s The Note says about “ClimateGate” in its story about this, wherein the author also does nothing to point out that Perry is demonstrably wrong: abcn.ws/oNmpEB I Tweeted the writer at @amyewalter, and her Facebook page is http://www.facebook.com/pages/Amy-Walter/28611394170.

Like · Reply · Subscribe · August 17 at 10:00pm

Cheri Mullen Zagurski · Gretna, Nebraska

Jesus.

Like · Reply · August 18 at 3:04am

Arnold F Williams · Santa Monica, California

When the conclusions are in tenths of a degree, and the instruments do not detect accurately enough to show tenths of a degree, you have a data problem. http://strata-sphere.com/blog/index.php/archives/13134

Like · Reply · Subscribe · August 17 at 7:01pm

Gary Herstein · Top Commenter

Learning the difference between direct and statistical measures just not on your list of things to do?

3 · Like · Reply · August 17 at 7:07pm

Paul Magnus · Top Commenter

When you try to be smarter than the experts you have a perception problem.

3 · Like · Reply · August 17 at 11:10pm

Arnold F Williams · Santa Monica, California

Gary, you don’t have direct measures. You have adjusted measures. When you aggregate either direct or adjusted measures, you have statistical measures, which come with a margin of error. If the margin of error is greater than the effect you are trying to discover, you don’t have knowledge, you have a waste of time and money.

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Prokaryotes – · Top Commenter (signed in using Hotmail)

Since a few days the facebook comment system popsup a window asking me to login, but I’m already logged in. Work around write comment elsewhere and copy/past quickly into the lame facebook comment system..

Like · Reply · Subscribe · August 17 at 8:24pm

  • sasparillafizz (signed in using Yahoo)

I’m having to do the same thing, type it in notepad then paste it in before that Facebook popup hits and prevents further typing. Very annoying, wish we were on the old site.

Like · Reply · August 17 at 10:55pm

John Mason

Bring back the old Climate Progress we all loved! Do it NOW!

Cheers – John

Like · Reply · August 18 at 12:57pm

Leif Erik Knutsen · Top Commenter · Friends with Joseph Romm

How about you show me a scientist that made 11 million bucks to change their tune like you did Perry.

Like · Reply · Subscribe · August 17 at 11:37pm

Priscilla Schell

Just another attempt to smear Perry.

Like · Reply · Subscribe · August 17 at 11:18pm

Patrick Linsley · Top Commenter · Plebian at W. W. Grainger

The truth has a way of doing that.

2 · Like · Reply · August 18 at 12:04am

Silvia Machuca Zambrano

Prisci

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kermit X (signed in using Hotmail)

Priscilla, what exactly in this blog is inaccurate? Perhaps you could provide a link to where Perry was more specific about scientific fraud.

2 · Like · Reply · August 18 at 10:50am

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Arnold F Williams · Santa Monica, California

Climategate: how soon we forget.

Like · Reply · Subscribe · August 17 at 6:55pm

Gary Herstein · Top Commenter

How soon we forget that Climategate was a complete fabrication.

5 · Like · Reply · August 17 at 7:06pm

Prokaryotes – · Top Commenter (signed in using Hotmail)

Unwinding “Hide the Decline”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz8Ve6KE-Us

2 · Like · Reply · August 17 at 7:06pm

Peter S. Mizla · Top Commenter · Vernon, Connecticut

I suggest you look at the ice decline in the arctic- and the increase of violent and extreme weather globally- this is visible and tangible evidence.

It is EXACTLY as those hated climate models have predicted.

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Susan Geer

No wonder so much misinformation comes out of Texas. Children in Texas don’t receive the same education as the rest of the country. I was a textbook designer in Boston. We did a National Edition and a separate TEXAS EDITION. Much information from the National Editions had to be deleted or changed for Texas. They are manipulating the education of children in Texas to strenthen their oun CONSERVITIVE agenda. When our publishing executives spoke to groups who bought the textbooks in Texas they were hissed at. Shows the level of intellegence that is in charge in Texas.

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Anna Olson · Aragon High

Oh the irony–that to accuse scientists of “manipulating data” is a manipulation in and of itself. At least Perry was right about one thing when he spoke of global warming becoming a politicized issue. Problem is, real scientific issues like global warming don’t have the time to become entangled in politics if we want to be at all efficient or effective in solving them.

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Mark Kendrick · Top Commenter · Works at Self employed

Perry is exactly like Bachmann. The more they open their mouths, the more lies spill out. In fact, Perry has caught up with Bachmann in the number of outright lies he’s spewed, and he’s barely in the race. That’s how fast he’s capable of lying. But… I note that the more he lies, the more his followers froth at the mouth for even MORE. This tells you that Americans have lost their ability to distinguish between a lie and reality.

I guarantee you it’s because of their religion. Any religion that can successfully cause people to believe that the Earth is 6000 years old, make you believe that a talking snake coaxed a woman to eat a forbidden fruit, make one believe that an ark held a sample of every single plant, animal, fungus, bacteria, and phytoplankton, etc. on this planet so that a sky deity could cause a planetary genocide (and etc)… well, those people will suck down common politician-lies like candy.

Like · Reply · Subscribe · August 19 at 12:46pm

Robert Fanney · Top Commenter · Flagler College

Oh, this is an enduring refrain. Some public figure takes money from the oil interests to spread lies about climate change. Meanwhile, anyone spreading the truth is suppressed. What’s the definition of corporate tyranny again?

Like · Reply · Subscribe · August 19 at 4:17pm

Mark Pope · Chicago, Illinois

Self serving people HAVE TO be kept in check with their attempts at manipulating the reality of climate change. They’re gambling with the welfare of our children. Hoping the scary stupid people will go away isn’t going to fix it.

Like · Reply · Subscribe · August 19 at 9:44am

Kim Ahola

This from a possible Republican front runner (at least in one recent poll) and as such a quite likely US president given the financial struggles Obama’s facing. Republicans just keeps distancing themselves from science, and that’s just sad.

Like · Reply · Subscribe · August 18 at 1:01am

Anthony Joseph

Perry is an idiot, and so is Bachmann. Its a sad day when either of these morons aren’t laughed off the stage @ any presidential debate.

Like · Reply · Subscribe · August 18 at 10:46pm

Charles Scott · Simon Fraser

What annoys me is that Perry and others who pick up these kinds of remarks have no clue (or are willfully lying) about how science and academic research is funded. If they only knew….

Like · Reply · Subscribe · August 18 at 1:31am

Steven Adam Lifson

How do we decisively trump these fools who MAKE THINGS UP?

Like · Reply · Subscribe · August 20 at 8:19am

Darrell Barker

The world is run by C average students. Clod help us.

Like · Reply · Subscribe · August 19 at 1:34pm

Charlotte Amaryllis

Speak for yourself. I have an A student who drove me around for the first time today. He was excellent! He’s think of changing his major from Architecture, to public relaltions, branding of companies, and marketing. He’s already got his own blog and he makes money from the ads. So, I think he will do very well if he chooses to change his major.

Like · Reply · August 19 at 11:04pm

Bill DeMott · Dartmouth College

I’ve reviewed over 100 National Science Foundation grant proposals during my career and I’ve never even read a proposal that aimed at “supporting the consensus.” Scientists get money for innovative ideas testing significant hypotheses and often we are surprised at the results of our work. In fact, new, challenging results are easiest to get published if they are convincing and solid. I think that I am speaking for nearly all scientists when I say that we welcome research that challenges our preconceptions and expectations. It’s so different from politics that it’s not surprising that politicians often don’t understand a scientist’s motivation.

Like · Reply · Subscribe · August 18 at 1:52pm

ynyinslo (signed in using Yahoo)

OK Rick. US scientists are just pushing global warming to get grants and enrich themselves­.

But why do national academies of science in countries world wide (Denmark, France, Russia, China, Brazil, Germany, Switzerlan­d, Italy, England, Australia, Austria, New Zealand, Spain, Canada, United States, Japan and many more) say global warming is real and it is man caused?

Are they ALL doing it to get grants? (by the way, academies of science do not get grants).

Rick – you are not running for office in Texas, nor simply speaking on Fox “News”. You are running for the highest office. This baloney does not work at this level.

Like · Reply · Subscribe · August 18 at 2:13am

David Stockbridge Smith · Top Commenter · Apex, North Carolina

When I read this post I wanted to comment but it rendered me speachless. The words would not come. This morning I had a response that suprised me. We are all familiar with the argument, buying imported oil funds despotic regimes and their interests around the world (a bad thing). Buying oil, coal, natural gas from any source available in the USA funds the denier machine and the corrupting impacts it has on our democratic system. We are funding the plunderers.

It’s a darn shame we can’t change our habit. Its too inconvenient, I guess. (That’s my only excuse.)

Like · Reply · Subscribe · August 18 at 11:39am

Leif Erik Knutsen · Top Commenter · Friends with Joseph Romm

Not only are countries around the world convinced that Global Warming is happening BUT they are ACTING on that knowledge and guess what their economies are responding favorably. Don’t you want that for America Perry?

Like · Reply · Subscribe · August 18 at 9:34am

Jim MacKrell

Show me the money….

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laska1818 (signed in using Yahoo)

The man is an idiot.

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