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  1. Raul M. says:

    Too true,
    In other news, I get confused about who has a right to stand common ground.

    • Raul M. says:

      Ever watched the movie “Harold and Maude”? It has a surprise concern about pollution.

      • Raul M. says:

        Extreme UV levels are expected all the way north through Colorado today.
        There are contact lenses that give over 80% protection without vision correction at a reasonable price.
        Better to keep your eyesight.

  2. Leif says:

    I believe it has a lot to do with the color of your skin Raul. Right along with that, I to get confused as to who gets to pollute common ground. That appears to be a factor of the “fatness” of your wallet. Then of course there is special deals for large tracts of mineral rights, no bid contracts, beat up by police, pay taxes, equal rights, free health care, equal pay, … Gosh, I think I will go in the garden and eat worms.

    • John Tucker says:

      Come to mine and eat the deer and rabbits.

      • Leif says:

        I am trying to teach myself to live lower on the food chain John. I suspicion it will be a valuable skill to pass to the grand kids before I check out. Might even be marketable in my life time if the GOP get their way.

  3. Geoff Beacon says:

    I expect the news of Europe’s deficits has reached round the world so I support…

    A CARBON TAX SOLUTION FOR EUROPE

    Is it politically possible?

    At the Progress Annual Conference, Phil Collins of The Times of London, Peter Kellner of YouGov and Mary Riddell of The Daily Telegraph thought that a carbon tax to create jobs could become mainstream politics.

    Does it work?

    Recently there have been two reports supporting this view. The first, in the latest Fraser Economic Commentary, The impact of the introduction of a carbon tax for Scotland. This says

    Our simulations demonstrate that a carbon tax [to support employment] could simultaneously stimulate employment while reducing emissions: the double dividend…

    Furthermore, in current circumstances, it may be thought desirable to focus the good news by recycling revenues to subsidise employment among the younger age groups who have been most adversely impacted by the recession and its aftermath.

    The second is from Vivid Economics, Carbon taxation and fiscal consolidation: the potential of carbon pricing to reduce Europe’s fiscal deficits. This concludes that carbon taxes are the best way to tackle the problem of European deficits.

    It says:

    Energy and carbon taxes perform well in comparisons against labour and indirect taxes like VAT when assessing their impacts on GDP and employment.

    I think carbon taxes can create jobs, reduce Europe’s deficits and cut carbon emissions. This now seems politically possible so I have started an e-petition Tax carbon. Subsidise jobs.

    I’m hoping some of the economists that keep telling me “Tax bads. Subsidise goods” will sign. Perhaps you can sign too.

  4. sarah says:

    Another definition that depends on your wallet:
    Domestic labor: noble, difficult, and important when done by rich married women; worth less than minimum wage when done for pay; an excuse to avoid work when done by poor women in their own homes.
    (summarized from Katha Pollitt,
    http://www.thenation.com/article/167456/ann-romney-working-woman)

  5. colinc says:

    Alberta Tar Sands 201 – 10 cr.hrs.

    The “Good(?)”…

    Deep In Canada, This Facility Is Unlocking Earth’s Biggest New Oil Supply

    The Bad…

    The Canadian Oil Sand Mines Refused Us Access, So We Rented This Plane To See What They Were Up To

    and the, er, well, larger collection of photos.

    Alberta Oil Sands

    In case those did not give you warm and fuzzy feelings, perhaps the following 2, supremely connected stories will do the trick.

    Joint Forces Staff College Class Suspended After Teaching America’s Enemy Is Islam

    Teaching ‘total war against Islam’

  6. John Tucker says:

    Although I feel working through social issues is nice.

    The contrarian in me says the controversy du jour until December will be anything other than serious moves on reducing carbon and a avoidance of employment economics. Because they are the two most pressing issues without easy solutions.

  7. John Tucker says:

    Tropical Storm Alberto just formed off the coast of South Carolina:

    TROPICAL STORM ALBERTO DISCUSSION NUMBER 1
    NWS NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL012012
    500 PM EDT SAT MAY 19 2012

    SATELLITE…RADAR…AND SURFACE DATA INDICATE THAT THE SMALL SURFACE
    LOW LOCATED OFF THE COAST OF SOUTH CAROLINA HAS ACQUIRED THE
    CHARACTERISTICS OF A TROPICAL CYCLONE. ORGANIZED DEEP CONVECTION
    HAS BEEN PERSISTENT OVER THE CENTER FOR MORE THAN 18 HOURS…AND
    THE CIRCULATION CENTER HAS BEEN MOVING SOUTH AWAY FROM AN AIRMASS
    BOUNDARY THAT EXTENDS ROUGHLY ALONG 33N. BASED ON AN ASCAT PASS
    FROM AROUND 1530 UTC…THE INITIAL INTENSITY IS SET AT 40 KT.
    ALBERTO IS SITUATED IN A MARGINAL THERMODYNAMIC ENVIRONMENT FOR
    STRENGTHENING…WITH A MARKEDLY DRY CONTINENTAL AIRMASS TO ITS NORTH
    AND WEST OVER THE EASTERN CAROLINAS. GIVEN THIS…ONLY MODEST
    INTENSIFICATION IS EXPECTED DESPITE THE CYCLONE BEING OVER
    THE RELATIVELY WARM GULF STREAM. ALBERTO IS EXPECTED TO BECOME
    EXTRATROPICAL BY 96 HOURS…AND SHOULD DISSIPATE BY DAY 5. THE NHC
    INTENSITY FORECAST IS A BLEND OF THE MORE AGGRESSIVE STATISTICAL
    GUIDANCE AND THE WEAKER DYNAMICAL MODELS. ( http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/refresh/MIATCDAT1+shtml/192042.shtml? )

  8. John Tucker says:

    According to the NHC, Alberto is the earliest forming tropical storm in the Atlantic Basin since Ana in 2003. This is also the first time that a tropical storm has formed before the official start of the hurricane season in both the Atlantic and East Pacific basins. ( http://www.wcti12.com/news/31087278/detail.html )

  9. mjm says:

    CBS Evening News ran a commentary section on Climate Change tonight’s show. Interesting to see them (finally) taking a specific stand, even if it only aired on Saturday night. M. Sanjayan from the Nature Conservancy was the commentator. Kudos for CBS News.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=7409078n&tag=mg;eveningnews

  10. Tom King says:

    We need a Climate Defense Pledge, something we can learn at Boy Scouts but also repeat at board meetings and public events.

    “I do solemnly declare my duty to protect Earth’s climate from disruption.”

    Because many of us are liberal minded, I imagine there is a tendency to recoil from such an idea because it carries an air of indoctrination. But such mechanisms play an important role in human affairs.

  11. Joe Immen says:

    There’s an excellent new documentary “The Island President” about ex-president Nasheed of the Maldives, and his efforts at Copenhagen. Powerful storytelling about the human side of climate change.
    http://theislandpresident.com/

  12. John Hollenberg says:

    NREL finds coal has 100 times the GHG emissions of wind. Here are the median estimates given in grams of carbon dioxide emitted for kilowatt-hour of electricity:

    * Photovoltaic panels – 45
    * Concentrating solar parabolic mirror – 26
    * Concentrating sola power tower – 38
    * Thin-film solar – 20
    * Wind – 11
    * Coal 1,001

    http://blogs.denverpost.com/thebalancesheet/2012/05/14/wind-power-ten-times-cleaner-coal-colorado-nrel-researchers/4786/

  13. John Tucker says:

    In the news of a few coastal communities ive seen mention of acidification and climate change over the last year especially as related to hardships and declines in local sea harvests. Certainly considering the impact they are facing it needs to be covered more. Their entire lifestyle and livelihood is at stake:

    Maine Voices: Limit CO2 emissions to save Maine oceans

    It is now universally recognized throughout the oceanographic community that the absorption of all this CO2 by the ocean (550 billion tons and counting) has resulted in a decrease in pH and changes in seawater chemistry, a phenomenon that collectively is referred to as “ocean acidification.”

    When CO2 dissolves in water, it produces carbonic acid. From the Pacific waters of Hawaii, to the Atlantic waters of Bermuda and the Canary Islands, to the Arctic waters of Antarctica, humans have lowered the pH of the ocean by 0.1 units in the last 100 years.

    While such a decrease may seem small, the way pH is measured means that this change actually represents a 30 percent increase in acidity. Without targeted reduction in CO2 emissions soon, the acid content of the ocean will increase by more than 300 percent in the next 50 to 75 years. ( http://www.pressherald.com/opinion/limit-co2-emissions-to-save-maine-oceans_2012-05-20.html )

  14. paul magnus says:

    adds to the water vapour in the atmosphere also, contributing to even more GW…

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/may/20/world-aquifers-rising-sea-levels

  15. Paul Magnus says:

    We cannot have emissions reduction with a global market. It’s not possible with out oil. http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/may/18/france-eu-carbon-tariff

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