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Sponsor Of North Carolina’s Anti-Gay Marriage Amendment Can’t Explain How Gays And Lesbians Undermine Marriage

This afternoon, during a rocky 22 minute interview, SiriusXM’s Michelangelo Signorile challenged North Carolina state Sen. James Forrester (R) — the sponsor of the bill to add an amendment to the constitution outlawing same-sex marriage — on his recent claims that people in the gay “lifestyle” live shorter lifespans, exposing the lawmaker’s lack of knowledge and embarrassing him in the process. Forrester, a medical doctor, initially claimed that he learned that gay people live shorter lives from the Atlanta Center for Disease Control, but then began referring Signorile to a book by Fred Turek, a Christian activist who argues that gay people are embracing harmful, “illegitimate” and “changeable” behavior — on par with that of sociopaths, alcoholics, or even gay-bashers. Signorile pressured Forrester on the source and he eventually admitted, “I’m not an expert on everything there.”

The senator also couldn’t explain how same-sex marriage undermined the institution and even threatened to end the interview when Signorile asked if Forrester would be introducing legislation to ban divorce. “I can’t answer all these questions you have,” he conceded:

SIGNORILE: Why don’t you ban divorce, why not?

FORRESTER: That wasn’t my intent of the legislation.

SIGNORILE: Is divorce a good thing? I’ll ask you some yes or nos, how’s that? Divorce a good thing?

FORRESTER: I think I’m going to end this conversation right now because I see you’re completely negative, on the other side, trying to set me up.

Listen to the interview in two parts:

Fox & Friends Recoil At Chaz Bono: ‘No I Can’t’ Talk About That’

When ABC announced that Chaz Bono, son of Cher and Sonny Bono, would compete on “Dancing With the Stars,” Fox News’ “Medical A-Team” psychiatrist Keith Ablow launched into a hateful and ignorant crusade against the transgender activist, calling him a “very disordered person” and saying his presence on the popular show would poison young people’s gender identities. To her credit, Fox host Megyn Kelly thoroughly admonished and debunked Ablow on her show and during a segment with Fox headliner Bill O’Reilly. But this morning, the conservative network got mired in transphobia again when the crew of Fox & Friends appeared pained at the mere mention of Bono’s name. Bono had a disappointing performance in last night’s episode due to a knee injury, and the Fox morning crew couldn’t even bring themselves to discuss it, transcript via Gawker:

BRIAN KILMEADE: Steve, can you tell us more?

STEVE DOOCY: Uh, no, I can’t. [Laughs] Thank you very for that update.
GRETCHEN CARLSON: [Rubbing temples] Let’s talk about the Senate instead! That might take too long to explain to Steve, Brian, and the rest of the world.

KILMEADE: The one part of Chaz that hasn’t been operated on!

DOOCY: So far! [Laughter]

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First Openly Gay NBA Executive Says ‘Nothing Negative Has Happened’ Since He Came Out

Four and a half months ago, Rick Welts, then the president and CEO of the NBA’s Phoenix Suns, became the first openly gay senior executive in American professional sports. Welts, 58, left the Suns last month for personal reasons, saying he wanted to move to Northern California to be with his partner. But today, Welts officially joined the Bay Area-based Golden State Warriors, saying he was for the first time aligning his professional life with a personal life he had shielded from his co-workers for decades.

At his introductory press conference this afternoon, Welts was asked to list the positives and negatives he’s faced since coming out in mid-May. To his own surprise, Welts said, “nothing negative has happened,” and the reaction from players, coaches, fans, and other league executives has been nothing but positive:

WELTS: I can’t tell you anything negative because nothing negative has happened. … The reaction has been overwhelming, not only from the people I worked with, which I kind of expected, but … the hundreds of emails I got from people I don’t know – parents, kids, other people in our industry who are facing a similar situation. … I wouldn’t change anything about it. … I haven’t had one negative reaction. I was prepared for something totally different.

Welts’ decision was seemingly the first major step in a year that contained a marked transition in public expressions of support for gay rights in sports. Phoenix players were quick to offer support for Welts and gay marriage after he came out. Then, former Phoenix all-star and current NBA analyst Charles Barkley told the Washington Post he’d “rather have a gay guy who can play than a straight guy who can’t play” and that, “as a black person,” he couldn’t support “discrimination in any form at all.” Former Dallas Cowboys wide receiver Michael Irvin appeared on the cover of Out! Magazine, in which he told the story of his gay older brother, and declared, “If anyone comes out in those top four major sports … I guarantee you I’ll give him 100 percent support.” Multiple Major League Baseball teams, meanwhile, recorded “It Gets Better” videos.

And while Welts insists his first goal is to build a winning basketball team (“What I’m about is running NBA basketball teams,” he said today), he acknowledged that he felt an “obligation” to bring the discussion about homosexuality into sports. “I think the whole object of what I’ve gone through this year is to elevate the quantity and quality of the discussion so we’re not afraid of the topic,” Welts said. “I think I’ve achieved a little bit of that. … There’s some kid out there who wonders whether or not they can follow their passion and be successful just because of who they are. … Who you are doesn’t prevent you from achieving what you want in life is a message I hope we can all send.”

Tony Perkins Says Christie’s Anti-Bullying Position Will Be Problem For GOP

ThinkProgress filed this report from an event at the National Press Club in Washington, DC.

FRC President Tony Perkins

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R) recently signed an anti-bullying law that advocates have heralded as the nation’s toughest and a major step forward in the fight to prevent students from being bullied for any number of reasons, including their sexual orientation. Anti-bullying laws have taken shape in response to high-profile suicides of LGBT students in several states, including one at Rutgers University in New Jersey.

Social conservatives, however, have traditionally opposed such measures. With the Republican establishment eying Christie as a potential candidate for president in 2012, ThinkProgress asked Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, how he thought social conservatives would react to Christie and his signing of the anti-bullying legislation. While Perkins said there were other issues that would affect Christie’s popularity with social conservatives more, he suggested that their opposition to such laws could be a hang-up for Christie were he to run for president. At the same time, Perkins attempted to strike a moderate, anti-bullying tone on the issue:

PERKINS: When it comes to anti-bullying, I think you’ll find in evangelicals, Protestants, Catholics, a strong desire to make our schools a safe place for all children. And no child should go to school and be bullied for any reason, whether it’s their religious conviction, whether it is their looks, whether it’s the fact that they’re overweight, or if they are of a particular sexual orientation. What is of concern, when it comes to so-called anti-bullying legislation is that it is used to advance a particular view of sexual orientation and leads to the bullying by teachers and administrators of other students, and that’s where there’s a problem. And so it depends on the actual legislation.

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But social conservatives have long opposed anti-bullying legislation. In 2009, the FRC wrote that anti-bullying laws would lead to “paid agents of the state forcing kids to regurgitate the approved liberal line on homosexuality,” asking, “Is there a better definition of bullying than this?” At other times, it has said the laws would “make children hide their Christianity or religion in the closet” while the government “promotes harmful and sinful sexual practices among our youth.” And FRC has even argued that telling LGBT youth that they are wrong to lead their life as they are isn’t bullying.

It’s not “bullying” to tell the truth in love–which is that homosexual conduct is harmful to the people who engage in it and to society at large. The most compassionate thing we can do for people struggling with this lifestyle is to debunk the lie that they’re born “gay” and can never change. Instead we should assure them that change is possible for those who seek it.

Fox News reported today that Christie has again decided not to run for president. But with a stance like that, it’s no wonder Perkins feels Christie, who did the right thing by signing a law to prevent harmful bullying and discrimination in his state, would have had “a hard time” winning the support of social conservatives had he actually decided to run.

NEWS FLASH

Census Counts 131,729 Married Same-Sex Couples | The Census has found that “there are 131,729 same-sex couples in the U.S. who say they’re married – the first-ever government count of this kind.” Approximately 20 percent of the estimated 646,464 gay couples in the country checked off “husband” or “wife” boxes on their census forms and experts estimate that another 100,000 are in “legally recognized partnerships.” Same-sex marriage is now legal in Connecticut, Iowa, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New York, Vermont, and Washington, DC.

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Biden: GOP Booing Of Gay Soldier Is ‘Reprehensible’ | During an appearance on The View today, Vice President Joe Biden expressed his disappointment in the crowd at a recent Republican debate in Florida for booing a gay servicemember. “Look, this kid risked his life, this kid was there for a year — and I quite frankly, I thought it was reprehensible,” he said. Biden, whose son is an Army captain, also said, “I know my son and all the kids with him…I don’t think they give a damn whether the guy firing the rifle to protect them is gay or straight.” Watch it:

NEWS FLASH

House Democrats Insist Bi-National Same-Sex Couples Be Protected | In letters to the Departments of Homeland Security and Justice, 69 House Democrats are calling for clarification that same-sex bi-national couples will be considered as deportation policies are reassessed. In August, the Obama administration offered new policy on allowing immigration officials to use discretion in whether to prosecute “low priority” deportations, but offered no specific guidance regarding same-sex couples. In addition to rectifying this gap in the policy, the lawmakers also ask that the working group looking at deportations include someone experienced at working with gay immigrants and their families.

Are Republicans Hoping For The ‘Born This Way’ Candidate To Join The Presidential Race?

Seemingly unsatisfied with the diverse pool of candidates, Republicans continue to call for New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie to join the presidential race. But after months of signing marriage pledges and booing gay soldiers, it’s surprising the base would be interested in a candidate who has reasonably moderate views on LGBT issues. His record is brief, but not nearly as anti-gay as contenders like Rick Perry, Mitt Romney, and Michele Bachmann:

- Christie signed into law the New Jersey’s LGBT-inclusive “Anti-Bullying Bill of Rights,” the nation’s toughest law on bullying, which requires extensive training of teachers and staff, safety teams that involve parents, and thorough investigations of all allegations of bullying.

- Christie has said that, contrary to the teachings of his religion, he believes that gay people are “born this way,” and he doesn’t “look upon someone who’s homosexual as a sinner.”

- Though he opposes full marriage equality, he supports the civil unions that New Jersey currently offers.

Aside from the question Rick Santorum got last week on Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell, LGBT issues have been relatively absent from recent debates. Perhaps enthusiasm for Christie’s candidacy suggests Republicans are looking to abandon the discriminatory perspectives of social conservatives. On the other hand, maybe they just haven’t investigated his complete record yet.

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FRC’s Tony Perkins: Christie ‘Would Have A Difficult Time’ Getting Support From Social Conservatives | With Texas Gov. Rick Perry (R) turning in a poor performance at last week’s Republican presidential debate, establishment Republicans have turned their efforts toward persuading New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (R) to jump into the race. Christie’s record, however, may trouble social conservatives, a point New York Magazine made this morning by outlining his stances on gun control, climate change, education, Muslims, and of course immigration (the same issue that seems to have derailed Perry’s status as the frontrunner). Family Research Council President Tony Perkins all but confirmed that today at the National Press Club, telling reporters that Christie “would have a difficult time gaining a lot of support from social conservatives” should he run for president. Watch it:

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Patti Stanger, Meet Dan Savage

I really liked Tracie Eagan Morrison’s essay last year on Patti Stanger, the titular Millionaire Matchmaker of Bravo’s dating show. She argues, I think persuasively, that more than simply setting up her wealthy clients with the kind of people that they’d like to date and perhaps settle down with, that Stanger’s real strength is brutally assessing the people who come to her and identifying the flaws that have prevented them from having successful relationships. She can go too far, but the show, rather than a testament to love, is a pretty strong argument that if your only priority is to find a long-term relationship quickly rather than organically, you’re going to have to mold your personality and make big compromises in order for that to happen. It’s an aggressive indictment of romantic comedy.

But this stuff? Not so much:

I feel like Stanger is aiming for Dan Savage territory in talking about gay men and monogamy and overshooting, landing…somewhere else. Bravo walks an incredibly fine line with its branding. It’s supposed to be higher-end than its competitors, but its reality shows are no less invasive, and even rich people can have ugly, bad things happen in their lives. And a self- and network-appointed truth teller like Patti Stanger may tip over into a giant vat of crazy, especially in a setting like Bravo programming head Andy Cohen’s live talk show where the guests and the audience drink and everyone’s supposed to be kind of outrageous.

During NHL Game, Pro-LGBT Hockey Player Sean Avery Called A ‘F*cking Faggot’

During a preseason hockey game between the Philadelphia Flyers and the New York Rangers last night, Flyers winger Wayne Simmonds was caught on camera calling Rangers winger Sean Avery a “f*cking faggot.” The incident occurred when Avery skated past Simmonds near the Flyers bench, prompting the latter to hurl the insult. The two players had gotten in a minor scuffle earlier in the first period.

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The epithet, while obviously unfortunate when used against anyone, is particularly jarring because of Avery’s tireless activism on behalf of LGBT causes. During the height of the New York state marriage equality debate, Avery recorded a video urging state lawmakers to pass the bill. “I treat everyone the way I expect to be treated,” Avery said in the video, “and that applies to marriage.” He even used his celebrity as a New York Ranger to lobby lawmakers on marriage equality.

ThinkProgress readers will remember Wayne Simmonds as the player who was himself discriminated against just last week. One of a small handful of minorities in the NHL, Simmonds had a banana thrown at him during a preseason game, causing a major uproar in the media. Yet the Flyer’s homophobic slur last night will likely dissipate much of the sympathy Simmonds received following his own encounter with bigotry.

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NEWS FLASH

Jon Stewart Takes On GOP Debates And Their Audiences | Last night, The Daily Show addressed the Republican debates and audience reactions to them, including the recent booing of a gay soldier: “I give the audience a lot of credit. It takes a lot of balls to boo a guy who could stick your head in his biceps and crack it like a walnut.” He also compared the primary to a season of American Idol in reverse where candidates are added, then directly addressed the Republican party: “Have you ever considered the possibility that maybe your candidates aren’t the problem, maybe it’s you? You’re hard to please and figure out! You’re unrealistic!” Watch the clips:

Timothy Dolan Claims He’s Not Anti-Gay, Compares Same-Sex Marriage To ‘Polygamy, Adultery, Forced Marriage’

New York Archbishop Timothy Dolan compared the “threat” posed to marriage by gays and lesbians to that of polygamy, adultery, and forced marriage during a forum on marriage in Poughkeepsie, New York last night, and insisted that he was not “anti-gay”:

DOLAN: While some defending marriage may have sadly and regrettably sunk into gay bashing, the groups represented here this beautiful evening were scrupulously fervent in their insistant that this was pro-marriage, not anti-gay. If you look at our pedigree of the faiths represented here this evening, you’ll note that we’ve been cogent in our defense of marriage against a lot of things — frivolous divorce, polygamy, adultery, forced marriages, cohabitation, just to mention a few contemporary threats to marriage. In our fight against divorce, we were not spiteful to those divorced. In our opposition to polygamy, we were not anti its practitioners. In our worries about adultery, we were not prejudiced against adulterers. And in our recent efforts we weren’t anti-gay, but pro-marriage.

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Dolan has a long history of declaring his “love” for the gay community while insulting gay people and working to deny them equal protections. The archbishop led the religious opposition to New York’s civil same-sex marriage law, during which he compared extending marriage to gays and lesbians to communist dictatorships, incest and argued that it would be “perilous” and “detrimental for the common good.” “You don’t redefine marriage — a given — just to accommodate people’s lifestyle,” Dolan said in an interview with the National Catholic Register in late June.

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The Morning Pride: September 27, 2011

Welcome to The Morning Pride, ThinkProgress LGBT’s 8:45 AM round-up of the latest in LGBT policy, politics, and some culture too! Here’s what we’re reading this morning, but let us know what you’re checking out too. Follow us all day on Twitter at @TPEquality.

- Jeremy Johnson has become the one of the first re-enlistees after the repeal of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell.

- Sen. Kay Hagan (D-NC) has announced her support for the Employment Non-Discrimination Act (ENDA).

- The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals has issued a stay on the release of the Proposition 8 trial videos.

- The World Professional Association for Transgender Health (WPATH) has released its seventh version of Standards of Care for the Health of Transsexual, Transgender, and Gender Nonconforming People. The National Center for Transgender Equality identifies the top 10 highlights.

- A new poll from Baylor University shows that those unaffiliated with religion are the most likely to support LGBT equality and understand that sexual orientation is not a choice.

- Equality Matters has a detailed report on Fox News’ Dr. Keith Ablow, a so-called psychologist who regularly attacks the LGBT community.

- Kerry Eleveld wonders what the Left can learn from gay rights victories.

- Maggie Gallagher spills all the details on the new self-victimizing “Marriage Anti-Defamation Alliance.” Speaking of who’s defaming who, it looks like the National Organization for Marriage has another ex-gay advocate among its ranks.

- A gay couple in Seattle had their car vandalized and the rock that went through the windshield came with a note: “God Hates Fags! Get the fuck out of our neighborhood.”

- Details of the teacher’s side of the story are starting to emerge in regards to the Fort Worth student who was suspended for condemning homosexuality in the classroom.

- Rev. Lou Sheldon of the Traditional Values Coalition held a press conference about the FAIR Education Act, but only a few gay activists showed up. The SB48 campaign is apparently trying to trick people into signing petitions for repeal by suggesting the bill is actually about child molesters.

- Toledo gays are facing a billboard war between churches.

- Human rights groups are calling on Cameroon to halt anti-gay arrests and harassment by the government.

Octogenarian gay tortoises in India!

- The Los Angeles Dodgers say, “It Gets Better.”

- Read three essays on marriage equality by Michigan high school seniors.

- L-Word star Leisha Hailey was allegedly booted from a Southwest Airlines flight for kissing her girlfriend.

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