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O’Reilly On Waterboarding: ‘The Far Left Is Putting Us All In Danger’

Earlier this week, the Bush administration admitted that it has waterboarded at least three al Qaeda detainees since 9/11. Yesterday, CIA Director Michael Hayden added that the tactic may currently be illegal.

On Fox News’ O’Reilly Factor yesterday, Bill O’Reilly gave a full-throated defense of the torture tactic, claiming that the “far left went wild” after the revelations. The left “literally went crazy,” he said. O’Reilly continued his pro-torture rant:

Why are they so insane about this? It’s not fatal. It doesn’t leave a lasting physical injury. Why are they so crazy? … I think the President has to have the authority…in extraordinary circumstances, as these three were. And the far left is putting us all in danger.

Watch it:

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By O’Reilly’s logic, military officers and staunch conservatives are also “crazy.” Just yesterday, FBI Director Robert Mueller and Defense Intelligence Agency Director Michael Maples said the practice is unnecessary. Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC), and members of the Pentagon’s JAG corps also agree. Intelligence experts say it is “ineffective” because the technique “often produces false information.”

Waterboarding, not progressives, puts America in danger. As Colin Powell noted in 2005 when President Bush wanted to loosely define torture, “The world is beginning to doubt the moral basis of our fight against terrorism. To redefine Common Article 3 would add to those doubts. Furthermore, it would put our own troops at risk.”

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Competition and Insurance

I think the points Kevin Drum is making here start out in a good place but wind up heading in the wrong direction. The salient fact about competition and health insurance isn’t that one can’t imagine policies that would create a more effectively competitive insurance market, the problem is simply that decent people think the results of such a market would be undesirable.

Under competitive conditions, companies get better at what they do. Normally, that’s good. Electronics companies make gadgets that people want, at a cost cheap enough for them to afford them. Restaurants offer tasty food, enjoyable ambiance, efficient service, etc. But what well-functioning insurance companies do is assess risk accurately. And the general premise of health care policies in most countries is that health care should be delivered to people who need health care. This is just fundamentally incompatible with well-functioning insurance companies playing a large role in the financing of health care.

Politics

Blackwater tries putting a price tag on dead Iraqis.

ABC News reports that while a federal grand jury in Washington, D.C. is investigating the death of an innocent 9-year old Iraqi boy at the hands of American contractors, “Blackwater has been operating behind the scenes in Iraq to settle with the survivors and families of the dead”:

boyOfficials familiar with the case told ABCNews.com that Blackwater had resisted U.S. government demands that the company pay at least $100,000 per death, claiming the U.S. government has not paid that much in similar situations in Iraq. Iraqi prosecutors reportedly are urging Blackwater to pay at least between $20,000 and $80,000.

Culture

Alternatives

Chad Ford writes up six better deals that Phoenix could have made for Shawn Marion. Of course not trading Shawn Marion would also have been a good move. This whole thing makes their decision to let Kurt Thomas walk seem all the more baffling.

Politics

Important Things We Haven’t Talked About

I’m pretty well-sick of the primary campaign at this point, having gone through about the nine millionth iteration of “Obama’s shallow” versus “HRC’s unprincipled” this morning. That said, one reason the campaign often feels so tedious is that both campaigns keep talking about the same very narrow set of things over and over again. But they really are a narrow set of things. It’s as if the Western Front featured this brutal trench warfare just because nobody noticed some giant open plain right next to the battlefield. There are a whole bunch of critical substantive issues about which I think it’s genuinely unclear where both major contenders stand. These are points where a person who’s strongly committed to Candidate A could make a strong argument to me that Candidate A secretly agrees with my views on Issue X, but that’s not what I’m interested in. I’m interested in getting serious, public expressions.

I’m gonna do it list-style:

  • Budget deficits: Are Clinton or Obama committed to reducing them, or are they open to expanding them in order to establish new programs that they think are especially important? And what programs might qualify?
  • Federal Reserve: Are Clinton or Obama happy with the past 25 or so years of conservative Republican leadership at the Fed or would they like to take things in a new direction?
  • Judiciary: Assuming a Democratic Senate allows for relatively easy confirmations, do Clinton or Obama intend to continue appointing 1990s-style moderates, or would we see a return to the liberal jurisprudence of a Thurgood Marshall?
  • Unilateral preventive war as a non-proliferation policy: Should we disavow this aspect of the Bush National Security Strategy or are we going to stick with it and hope that more conciliatory rhetoric can make it work?
  • Israel: Any number of things come to mind, but in the most general sense do Clinton or Obama see this as an important issue it’s worth focusing on in 2009, or is it a headache the intend to ignore until a crisis breaks out or they’re lame ducks?
  • Root causes: Does reducing the appeal of al-Qaeda really require the transformation of the Muslim world into a series of democracies, or are there aspects of US foreign policy that drive radicalism?
  • War on terror: If, as both candidates affirm, we’re in a “war on terror” when might that war end? What, if any, special war powers do Clinton and Obama think the state of war justifies? Or is this a pure metaphor that, like the “war on poverty,” is simply supposed to signify a high level of commitment?

That’s all for now, I guess. I’ve said before that I’m an Obama guy, but I think a lot of the criticism of him out there have at least some merit. In principle, I’d be perfectly open to revising my prospective vote (I think it would be overly grandiose to call it an “endorsement”) if Hillary Clinton staked out clearly better stances on some of these things (and for the record, I don’t take the left-most side on all of these questions) before Tuesday’s Potomac Primary.

Politics

Cafferty: ‘Straight Talk Express wimped out.’

This week, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) caved to the right wing and skipped a key vote on the economic stimulus plan, despite voicing prior support for the package. CNN’s Jack Cafferty excoriated McCain for placing his personal ambitions over the public’s well-being:

It was one of those moments that said quite a bit about somebody’s character. What did McCain do? Nothing. He ducked. Instead of representing the people in Arizona who elected him, he simply choice not to vote at all. John McCain, pilot of the Straight Talk Express, wimped out. [...]

This makes it looks a lot like John McCain wants to be president but he can’t bring himself to do the job of senator. Just another politician choosing to do what’s best for him.

Watch it:

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It was one of those moments that said quite a bit about somebody’s character,” Cafferty said. “John McCain didn’t have the stomach for the tough decision.”

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The Trouble With Local Control

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This map accompanies Matt Miller’s article on education policy in the January/February issue of The Atlantic that I thought I should recommend before March (issue) madness overtakes the site. It highlights the incredibly large disparities in school funding that exist in our fine nation. These huge gaps are hardly the be-all and end-all of our education problems in the United States, but they’re hard to justify. It’s just as important to educate children in Alabama as it is to educate them in Massachusetts, but kids in the latter state get double the money of kids in the former.

Miller’s article isn’t even primarily about money. Instead, it’s about the fact that these general institutional issue persists throughout our educational system — things are wildly different from district to district, and especially from state to state. That’s the American tradition of local control at work. But while this is very much our tradition, it’s not a very good one. It doesn’t really make sense to have the standard of what counts as reading proficiency to be different in Massachusetts than it is in Alabama. Nor, of course, do American families live hermetically sealed, locally controlled lives — kids move from district to district or state to state all the time. Few other countries do things the American way, and they’re generally getting better results. It’s time for us to change.

But don’t listen to me, read Miller’s article. One thing I’d add, though, is that the goofy primary system is a large obstacle to reform here. Iowa and New Hampshire happen to be two of the most fanatical local control states out there, and everyone tailors their education policy to accord with sensibilities in those places.

Security

Discovery Channel Drops Plans To Air ‘Taxi To The Dark Side’ Because It Is Too ‘Controversial’

Taxi to the Dark Side, a documentary about an innocent Afghan taxi driver tortured to death by U.S. officials at Bagram Air Base, has received wide critical acclaim since its debut in April at the Tribeca Film Festival. The New York Times’s A.O. Scott said, “If recent American history is ever going to be discussed with the necessary clarity and ethical rigor, this film will be essential.”

Director Alex Gibney agreed to sell the rights of Taxi to the Discovery Channel because executives convinced him they would “give the film a prominent broadcast.” Now, however, Discovery has dropped its plans to air the documentary because the film is too controversial. Gibney responded to the news in a press release this week:

Now, I am told that ‘it doesn’t fit into Discovery’s plans,’ and that the film’s controversial content might damage Discovery’s public offering.

Having directed ‘Enron,’ very little about this kind of corporate behavior shocks me, but I am surprised that a network that touts itself as a supporter of documentaries would be so shamelessly craven. This is a film that, in an election year, is of critical interest to the viewing public. What Discovery is doing is tantamount to political censorship.

It’s ironic that Taxi’s content is too “controversial,” considering it depicts real acts perpetrated by the current Bush administration. In an interview with the Center for American Progress, Gibney noted that Americans are excited about dramatizations of torture, such as in the show 24, but uncomfortable “with the reality of torture.” Listen to the interview here:

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As Gibney added in the press release, “In refusing to air the film, Discovery is perpetuating what has become the policy of this government: it is ok to employ torture, just not to show it.”

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Politics

Arguments in Play

On Iraq, and whatever broader set of issues one believes are implicated in the Iraq debate, I only ever hear one message coming from the Obama campaign, namely:

  1. Obama and Clinton disagree, and Obama is right and Clinton is wrong.

Team Hillary, by contrast, is always equivocating between two different ideas:

  1. Obama and Clinton disagree, and Clinton is right and Obama is wrong.
  2. Obama and Clinton actually agree, but Clinton is more experienced and more capable of implementing a sound agenda.

Clinton Argument Two can be made pretty persuasively. Plenty of anti-war folks are on Clinton’s side, and Obama’s never really spelled out what, exactly, on the level of doctrine he and Clinton disagree about. But the fact that Clinton Argument One does, in fact, get trotted out (especially when the intended audience isn’t yours truly) seems to me to badly undercut Argument Two.

Meanwhile, and somewhat relatedly, I keep encountering people whose view of the race seems to be shaped by the assumption that it’s not possible that good-faith disagreements exist about national security issues among Democrats. That, in essence, all Democrats have very lefty ideas about this stuff and all deviations from an ideal plane of leftiness are explained by political cowardice. I’m not really sure what evidence anyone would find convincing on this score, but perhaps part of the value of having an inside-the-beltway corrupt Villager on your list of blogs-I-read is that I can tell you that in my experience this is false. There are lots of strongly partisan Democrats who very much think Bush has taken the country in the wrong direction but who vigorously disagree among themselves about what national security policy ought to look like.

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