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Kerry: McCain’s ’100 Years’ Remarks Show A ‘Fundamental Misunderstanding Of Iraq Itself’

In November 2007, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) said a Korea-like presence is not an “analogy” he would use for Iraq, recognizing that the “nature of the society in Iraq” would force a withdrawal — making the South Korea model implausible.

Now, McCain is saying critics of a long-term U.S. presence are “dishonest” and engaging in “nonsense talk.” Today on Fox News Sunday, Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) noted McCain’s flip flop on the Korea model, saying it shows McCain is displaying a “fundamental misunderstanding” of Iraqi society.

In fact, on the hundred years war issue, John McCain is being disingenuous. Because what he said in that interview [Charlie Rose] was ‘as long as there is no violence,’ which indicates a fundamental misunderstanding of Iraq itself.

Kerry added that the intelligence shows this kind of occupation would be a 100-year cause celebre for extremists:

Our own National Intelligence people tell us it is the American presence that is attracting jihadists and creating violence. So if he’s talking about being there for 40 years, 100 years, he’s talking about attracting more and more terrorists and not paying attention to the larger challenge.

Watch it:

Despite abandoning the South Korea model in November, McCain now uses it as his most frequent defense for a “10,000 year” or “million” year presence in Iraq. Kerry observed that South Korea and Japan, both stable democracies, cannot be compared to Iraq’s civil war:

Let’s be clear about this hundred years, again. The model in Japan and in Korea is a model where they have adopted a full democracy and where they have none of the insurgents, al Qaeda, jihadists, religious extremism that you have in Iraq.

Kerry concluded, “So you have a different John McCain today when he talks about hundred years or million years.”

Climate Progress

Can technology alone stop global warming?

Of course not. We need at least three other things:

  1. Major political change — to deploy the technologies fast enough. My first take on this is at “Is 450 ppm (or less) politically possible? Part 1.”
  2. Major price change — to add a cost to emitting greenhouse gases that approximates the terrible damage done by them. All the technology advances in renewables (or nuclear or coal with carbon capture) that you can plausibly imagine in the next decade won’t make coal cost-uneffective — this is a critical point to understand.
  3. Major behavior change — Most people need to understand at a visceral level that unrestricted greenhouse gas emissions are the gravest threat to the health and well-being of future generations that we face (by far). If we get the needed political and price change much of the behavior change will follow. But not all. Climate change is probably going to have to get much more visibly worse before we see widespread and significant behavior change — much as few people make a dramatic change in their diet and exercise before the heart trouble occurs.

I’ll be blogging more on these three points in the coming week(s).

Culture

Charlton Heston

Charlton Heston, not a very good actor but in his way a great one, has died. To me, Planet of the Apes is vital, though your mileage may vary. His political trajectory was a little silly, but also in a very fitting way utterly typical of the larger trajectory of American history. His death, we hope, comes at a time when the great backlash of which he was a part is finally receding. Rest in peace.

Yglesias

Please Stop

Hillary Clinton once again tries to pretend that she was more against the Iraq War than Obama was. It turns out that this is true if you ignore the events of 2002, and those of 2003, and those of 2004 and then misportray the events of 2005.

Politics

Graham ducks question on GI Bill, pledges only to ‘sit down’ and discuss it.

On “This Week” today, host George Stephanopolous asked Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) why neither he nor Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) has cosponsored Sen. Jim Webb’s 21st Century GI Bill, which would dramatically enhance educational benefits given to soldiers.

Graham ducked the question, refusing to answer for his and McCain’s notable absence on the issue. Graham would only declare, “Sign me up to sit down with Jim [Webb]” to discuss the legislation. Watch it:

Webb pointed out in March that “many more Republicans could vote for the bill if McCain endorsed it.” Sign a petition here.

Yglesias

Expiring Authority

Bruce Ackerman and Oona Hathaway note that the current legal basis for the U.S. military operation in Iraq is the second prong of the 2002 AUMF which grants the president the authority to use the military to “enforce all relevant United Nations Security Council resolutions regarding Iraq.”

But here’s the rub. The most recent U.N. resolution expires on Dec. 31, and the administration has announced that it will not seek one for 2009. Instead, it is now negotiating a bilateral agreement with the Iraqi government to replace the U.N. mandate.

Whatever this agreement contains, it will not fill the legal vacuum. That’s because the administration is not planning to submit this new agreement to Congress for its explicit approval. Since the Constitution gives the power to “declare war” to Congress, the president can’t ignore the conditions imposed on him in 2002 without returning for a new grant of authority. He cannot substitute the consent of the Iraqi government for the consent of the U.S. Congress.

But of course Bush (and John McCain!) want a permanent American military presence in Iraq, but they know congress won’t authorize such a presence. Hence, the only solution available to them is to ignore the law and the constitution and just keep the troops. Ackerman and Hathaway suggest merely continuing the U.N. resolution for another year, which will give the next president a legal basis for doing whatever he’s been granted a mandate to do (since no matter who wins the troops can’t be made to suddenly vanish in a puff of smoke in January). But, obviously, for that to happen the administration would need to concede that it lacks the legal and constitutional authority to ignore congress and they’ll never do that.

Politics

McCain repeats false claim ‘Sadr declared the ceasefire.’

Appearing on Fox News Sunday this morning Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) repeated the false claim that Muqtada al-Sadr declared the ceasefire in Basra last week, which he pointed to as proof that Sadr didn’t “think he was winning” the battle in Basra. He also said that the Iraqi army performed “pretty well”:

It was al-Sadr that declared the ceasefire, not Maliki. … With respect, I don’t think Sadr would have declared the ceasefire if he thought he was winning. Most times in history, military engagements, the winning side doesn’t declare the ceasefire. The second point is, overall, the Iraqi military performed pretty well. … The military is functioning very effectively.

Watch it:

In fact, it was members of Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki’s government who brokered the ceasefire, to which Sadr agreed. Experts agree that Sadr’s influence was strengthened — rather than diminished — by the Basra battle.

Finally, the New York Times reported Friday that at least 1,000 Iraqi national soldiers deserted or refused to fight in Basra.

Yglesias

The Trouble With War

It sounds almost absurd to need to point out that “war is usually bad” but in a world where John McCain is taken seriously, more people need to listen to John Quiggin:

Finally reaching a conclusion, the central error in pro-war thinking is the belief that every war has a winner. On the contrary, in war there are far more losers than winners, and in most cases there are no real winners apart from the merchants of death mentioned above. Even those who seem to win have usually sowed the seeds of future disaster. The only sane response to war is to end it as soon as possible.

It’s obviously possible to find a few exceptions to this in history, but they’re really, really rare and as he says “I’m more and more convinced that arguments for war, or about the conduct of war, that rely solely on WWII should come under the same embargo as other arguments that invoke Hitler and Nazism.” WWII aside, the main class of successful wars seems to be things like Gulf War I, where a campaign was undertaken for very limited defensive objectives. Over time, I think the wisdom showed by George H.W. Bush and other coalition leaders at that point when they decided not to press momentary advantage and transform the fighting into a larger war with only illusory gains looks more and more impressive.

Media

Links

Jack Shafer sure is right about this. The linking norms in the online versions of newspaper articles betray a very narrow-minded effort at profit-maximization that doesn’t seem to understand that at the end of the day a website is only going to be profitable if its content is something people are going to want to read.

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