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Kristol ‘Looks Down’ On Majority Of Americans: Calls Them ‘Feckless’ And Unserious

kristolnh.jpgIn his New York Times column earlier this week, Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol decried Sen. Barack Obama’s (D-IL) now-infamous “bitter” comments as being “disdainful of small-town America.” “What has Barack Obama accomplished that entitles him to look down on his fellow Americans?” questioned Kristol.

But on Hugh Hewitt’s radio show yesterday, Kristol himself appeared quite “disdainful” of the majority of Americans who are weary of the war in Iraq, implying that many of them are neither “decent” nor “serious,” but rather “feckless”:

KRISTOL: Every time there’s a little flare up, even if the flare up turns out to be for the better, which is what happened in Basra over the last few weeks, and none the less they go, “oh my God, can’t we get out of this.” So there’s a real weariness. Even amongst some decent people of just you know, it seems kind of there’s no end, there’s no clear, there’s no clarity. … And are we going to be such a feckless country, frankly, that we’re going to waste the sacrifices that have been made, snatch defeat and retreat out of the jaws of success and victory. … I’m moderately hopeful that the country gets beyond the kind of weariness and annoyance about the war and gets serious about the world we live in.

Listen here:

[flv http://video.thinkprogress.org/2008/04/KristolFecklessWarCritics.320.40.flv]

A poll released today by ABC News and the Washington Post, found that “views on the Iraq war have…turned more negative, with six in 10 now rejecting the notion that the United States needs to win there to effectively battle terrorism.” Apparently to Kristol, these 60% of Americans are “feckless,” which is defined as either “ineffective; incompetent; futile” or “having no sense of responsibility; indifferent; lazy.”

Additionally, the poll — which was conducted “after congressional testimony about the war” by Gen. David Petraeus and Amb. Ryan Crocker — found that the majority of Americans, including an increasing share of Republicans, “say the United States should withdraw its military forces to avoid further casualties”:

Moreover, while Bush remains committed to keeping more than 100,000 U.S. troops in Iraq through the rest of his presidency, 56 percent of Americans say the United States should withdraw its military forces to avoid further casualties. This has been the majority view since January 2007.

On several measures, the poll finds Republicans inching away from support for the war. Among them, a sense that progress in Iraq has stalled has increased 13 points from early March, and the percentages who prefer withdrawing troops over risking more casualties (30 percent) and who think that the battle against terrorism can be a success without victory in Iraq (39 percent) are each at new highs.

Perhaps the question should be asked: What has Bill Kristol “accomplished that entitles him to look down on his fellow Americans?”

Security

Arabs And Americans Agree On Need For Withdrawal

Our guest blogger is Peter Juul, a national security consultant at the Center for American Progress Action Fund.

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Two new polls released in the last week show that neither the American public nor various Arab publics buy one of the central contentions for staying indefinitely in Iraq – that leaving will make things orders of magnitude worse than staying.

A poll of the Arab world conducted by Shibley Telhami and the University of Maryland shows that contrary to the pessimistic predictions of war supporters here in the United States, the people of the Middle East don’t think a U.S. withdrawal will have the dire consequences war supporters predict.

61 percent of all Arabs surveyed say that “Iraqis will find a way to bridge their differences” in the aftermath of U.S. withdrawal

Only 15 percent who say that “civil war will expand rapidly” and 17 percent who say things will stay the same.

88 percent of Jordanians and 66 percent of Saudis believe Iraqis will find a way to settle their differences after a U.S. withdrawal, while only 42 percent in the UAE and 45 percent in Morocco feel similarly.

Moreover, Arabs’ greatest concern (59 percent) for fallout from the war is that “Iraq will remain stable and spread instability in the region.” Coupled with perceptions of the likelihood of reconciliation following a U.S. withdrawal, it appears that most Arabs view a continued U.S. presence in Iraq as a destabilizing factor. However, as Matt Yglesias notes, this rosy perception of U.S. withdrawal may be driven by deep distrust of American motives more than anything else.

Nevertheless, it is striking how Arab and American public opinion have converged. An ABC News/Washington Post poll released just today shows that Americans have by and large rejected the administration and its supporters’ rationales for open-ended military involvement in Iraq:

– Despite the recent security gains of the last half-year or so, 57 percent of Americans believe the United States “is not making significant progress toward restoring civil order in Iraq” – up from 51 percent at the beginning of March.

56 percent say the United States “should withdraw its military forces from Iraq to avoid further U.S. military casualties, even if it means that civil order is not restored there.”

Finally, Americans don’t believe that Iraq is the “central front in the war on terror,” as President Bush and Sen. John McCain have repeatedly claimed. 61 percent of Americans say that “the war on terrorism can be a success without the United States winning the war in Iraq” – up seven points from the time of General Petraeus’ September 2007 testimony.

The results of these polls should give the lie to the claims of pundits and war supporters that the American public wants to stick it out in Iraq until we “win,” and that withdrawal necessarily leads to the worst-case scenario. Neither the American public nor Iraq’s neighbors see it that way.

Politics

Poll: Homeowners see home values falling.

According to a new Reuters/University of Michigan survey, 41 percent of homeowners report “that their home had lost value during the past year, compared with 36 percent the prior month, the highest level since the late 1980s when the question was first asked. A year ago, only 20 percent said their homes had lost value.” Just 18 percent anticipate home values increasing over the next year.

Media

The Liebershift

Jon Chait makes some pretty short work of his colleague Kirchick’s dumb post on Joe Lieberman (if only other Planksters did the same more often…) but if anything Jon concedes too much. For example, agreeing that Lieberman “ran as a pro-war candidate.”

Did he? I dunno. He ran ads saying things like “I’m staying because I want to help end the war in Iraq in a way that brings stability to the Mid-East and doesn’t leave us even more vulnerable” and made statements on the trail about how “No one wants to end the war in Iraq more than I do.” That kind of thing isn’t literally inconsistent with his post-election position on Iraq, but I think it’s clear that Lieberman was trying to use artful wording to present himself as much less of an Iraq hawk than he really is.

Certainly, Lieberman very much argued that Connecticut voters shouldn’t view the election as a referendum on the war. After all, a referendum on the war would have meant Lieberman would lose the election since the war, enormously unpopular around the country by 2006, was even more unpopular in Connecticut. Instead, Lieberman tried to imply that he and Lamont were both for ending the war, and also argued that it would be foolish to base your support on a single issue. Today, Lieberman is arguing that John McCain’s fanatical support for endless war in Iraq is a decisive reason to vote for him even though Lieberman nominally disagrees with McCain’s positions on a whole host of other issues. That’s a substantial change from the Lieberman who ran in 2006, on both what to think about the war and it’s salience as an issue.

Yglesias

Knowing Which Way The Wind Blows

Ah, the downward spiral:

On the Clinton conference call this morning, Howard Wolfson–under rather aggressive questioning from Mother Jones’ David Corn–said he didn’t know how Hillary felt about her husbands pardons of two former Weathermen. But he drew a distinction by pointing out that no Weathermen ever held fundraisers for Hillary Clinton.

Wolfson’s got a distinction drawn, alright, but doesn’t it cut the other way — I’d much rather vote for a politician who received favors from a bad person than a politician who’s given favors to a bad person. This whole subject is, however, essentially BS when flying in either direction.

Politics

Contradicting His Hero Ben Franklin, Gingrich Says Americans ‘Will Give Up All Their Liberties’ For Safety

gingrich.jpg Yesterday, former Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich visited Drew University in New Jersey, where he took questions from 20 political science majors there. When one asked him how the government could justify stripping rights from Americans in such pieces of legislation as the Patriot Act, Gingrich said that the government has a “right to defend society,” and when under threat, “people will give up all their liberties“:

“If there’s a threat, you have a right to defend society,” Gingrich said. “People will give up all their liberties to avoid that level of threat.

Gingrich is directly contradicted by Benjamin Franklin, who rejected the notion that one should give up one’s liberties out of fear:

Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.

This disagreement is significant, because Gingrich considers Franklin one of his heroes. He prides himself on his Pennsylvania upbringing, where he says “it was easy…to imbue a deep sense of the freedom that is at the heart of the American tradition,” and he frequently invokes Franklin to buttress his conservative claims about individual responsibility and religion in public life:

Only Franklin personified the striving, ambitious, rising system of individual achievement, hard work, thrift and optimism found at the heart of the American spirit. Only Franklin worked his way up in the worlds of business and organized political power in both colonial and national periods. Only Franklin was a…creator of the American mythos of the common man.” [LINK]

“During the Constitutional Convention of 1787, Benjamin Franklin (often considered one of the least religious of the Founding Fathers) proposed that the Convention begin each day with a prayer. … [T]he Founding Fathers, from the very birth of the United States, saw God as central to defining America.” [LINK]

“Franklin, who was quite old and had been relatively quiet for the entire Convention, suddenly stood up and was angry, and he said: I have lived, sir, a long time, and the longer I live the more convincing proofs I see of this truth, that God governs in the affairs of men, and if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without His notice, is it possible that an empire can rise without His aid?” [LINK]

Gingrich accuses “the secular Left” of trying to rid religion from public life, thereby “distorting the Constitution to achieve a goal that the Founding Fathers would have found to be a fundamental threat to liberty.” Yet it his own cavalier subordination of civil liberties in the name of national security that would truly offend the Founders.

Featured

Doc Rock Says: “‘All wars are follies, very expensive and very mischievous ones.’

‘I conceive that the great part of the miseries of mankind are brought upon them by false estimates they have made of the value of things.’

‘A great empire, like a great cake, is most easily diminished at the edges.’

Benjamin Franklin”

Yglesias

Vegetable Card

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I saw this proposal on what I think is the campaign website for the Green Party candidate for Mayor of Paris. To read about it, you’ll need to either know French or else trust the whims of Google’s automatic translator, but the basic idea, as seen on the card, is to create a generous program along the lines of food stamps here in the U.S. but specifically targeted at the purchase of fresh produce.

In the developed world we’re (fortunately) past the point where inability to afford an adequate quantity of calories is a series problem, but instead we’ve got a serious problem of people getting too fat while simultaneously not getting enough nutrition. This sort of targeted program could help, though so would altering our absurd health- and environment-destroying agricultural subsidies policies. We could even keep subsidizing agriculture to a ridiculous extent but just try to shift to subsidizing healthy stuff instead of corn, beet sugar, corn-bases sugar substitutes, etc.

I like these Paris transportation ideas too.

Politics

O’Reilly redefines ‘fair and balanced’: Find people who hate both Democrats.

Last night, Bill O’Reilly offered the newest definition of Fox News’s “Fair and Balanced” slogan: Bring on guests who hate both Sens. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) and Barack Obama (D-IL). Following a segment with Karl Rove — who trashed Obama — O’Reilly introduced conservative pundit Dick Morris to trash Clinton:

O’REILLY: OK now, Karl Rove doesn’t really like Barack Obama as a political figure in this country. It’s obvious. And you really don’t like Hillary Clinton as a political figure in this country. So we figure we’d balance off the debate.

Watch it:

[flv http://video.thinkprogress.org/2008/04/4808ed2c34a8.320.240.flv]

Of course, neither Rove nor Morris said anything about Sen. John McCain (R-AZ).

Politics

In It to Win It

Kevin and Ezra note that Hillary Clinton seems to have made a huge tactical error by directly inserting herself into the “bitter” controversy.

I think this is a misreading of the situation. It’s almost impossible for Clinton to win the nomination at this point. She can’t afford to “do the smart thing,” help her campaign do a bit better, and then lose anyway. She can’t afford to let the game come to her. If she’s not going to drop out (which is what she ought to do), then she needs to push everything as hard as she can. She needs to make long-odds plays, because only long-odds plays have any chance of resulting in a Clinton win. It’s smart, disciplined, rational politics. It’s also extremely selfish, but that’s another matter.

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