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New poll finds that 39 percent of Americans want government to ‘stay out of Medicare.’

As ThinkProgress has noted before, conservatives have frequently obscured the fact that Medicare is a government-run single-payer program. Constituents appearing at health care town halls have even demanded that their members of Congress keep their “government hands off of Medicare.” Now, a new Public Policy Polling poll finds that millions of Americans do not realize that the federal government runs Medicare:

One poll question indicative of how difficult it is to gain public understanding on a complicated issue asked if respondents thought the government should ‘stay out of Medicare,’ something inherently impossible. 39% said yes.

The poll also shows that an additional 15% of respondents were “not sure” if the government should be involved in Medicare. Only 46% of respondents disagreed with the proposition that the government should stay out of the government-run program.

Update

The poll also finds that only 62 percent of respondents believe that President Obama was born in America. Of the 38 percent who either don’t believe or are unsure, some think he was born in Indonesia, Kenya, the Philippines, or France. Six percent of the total poll respondents also don’t think Hawaii is a U.S. state.

Yglesias

It Depends Where You Start the Clock…

One interesting thing about the past few decades of world history is that essentially the exact same events can be read as having precisely opposite implications. Here, for example, is Peter Bergen arguing for more forceful American military intervention in Afghanistan:

The implication of Walt’s objection to the ramped-up Obama strategy in Afghanistan is that the U.S. should either do less in Afghanistan, or even just get out altogether. But America has already gone down this road. Twice. In 1989 the U.S. closed its embassy in Kabul and then effectively zeroed out aid to one of the poorest countries in the world; meanwhile Afghanistan was racked by a civil war, which spawned the Taliban who then gave safe haven to al Qaeda.

Then in the winter of 2001 the Bush administration overthrew the Taliban, and because of its aversion to nation-building rebuilt the country on the cheap and quickly got distracted by the war in Iraq. Into the resulting vacuum stepped a resurgent Taliban. This time the movement of religious warriors was much more closely aligned with al Qaeda.

There is, of course, something very arbitrary about starting this clock in 1989. One could just as easily note that in 1980 the United States decided that it would serve our interests to deliberately destabilize Afghanistan by trying to foster a series of links between Saudi financing, Pakistani intelligence, and Afghan religio-nationalist militants and that we’ve spent much of the past ten years coping with the unintended consequences of this activity.

Which I think it’s why it’s worth being above-board about the fact that people really come to this discussion with some pretty strong ideological priors. I think there’s a view of the world out there which looks at the American military as a kind of balloon that ought to expand to fill every vacuum that arises in the world. There’s another view which finds this trend in our recent foreign policy alarming. I’m much more in the latter camp. And I think that what Bergen is really showing here is that we have no practical ability to actually fill these voids on a sustained basis and that, therefore, the practical results of vacuum-filling enterprises are dominated by the unintended consequences.

Politics

Bachmann: Health Care Reform Is Unconstitutional

Speaking on Fox News last night, right-wing Congresswoman Michele Bachmann (R-MN) claimed that health care reform is unconstitutional:

It is not within our power as members of Congress, it’s not within the enumerated powers of the Constitution, for us to design and create a national takeover of health care. Nor is it within our ability to be able to delegate that responsibility to the executive.

Watch it:

Bachmann, however, is wrong about both the contents of the health care plan and the requirements of the Constitution. There is nothing in any of the health care bills under consideration which resembles a “national takeover of health care.” Conservatives like to use this language when referring to the public health option. Like other insurers, the public option would collect premiums from people who choose to buy into it, and then spend those premiums to insure these participants.

Had Bachmann bothered to read Article I of the Constitution before going on Fox, she would have learned that Congress has the power to “lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises” and to “provide for….the general welfare of the United States.”  Rather than itemizing specific subject matters, such as health care, which Congress is allowed to spend money on, the framers chose instead to give Congress a broad mandate to spend money in ways that promote the “general welfare.”

It’s unclear what the basis is for Bachmann’s claim that the public option is an unconstitutional delegation of power to the Executive. There is a 74 year-old decision — decided by the same right-wing Supreme Court which believed most of the New Deal to be unconstitutional — which holds that Congress could not simply grant President Roosevelt nearly limitless authority to do whatever he wanted in order to prevent “unfair competition.” But no one has proposed giving President Obama similarly unchecked authority over health care. Rather, pages 116-128 of the House bill that Bachmann will vote on provide extremely detailed instructions explaining how the Executive Branch must manage a public health plan.

It’s important to note just how radical Bachmann’s theory of the Constitution is. If Congress does not have the power to create a modest public option which competes with private health plans in the marketplace, then it certainly does not have the authority to create Medicare. Similarly, Congress’ power to spend money to benefit the general welfare is the basis for Social Security, federal education funding, Medicaid, and veterans benefits such as the VA health system and the GI Bill. All of these programs would cease to exist in Michele Bachmann’s America.

Yglesias

Bobby Jindal’s Newfound HSR Enthusiasm

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When last we met Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal, he was trashing his reputation for intelligence and seriousness about public policy with this nonsensical attack on trains and volcano monitoring as wasteful:

JINDAL: While some of the projects in the bill make sense, their legislation is larded with wasteful spending. It includes $300 million to buy new cars for the government, $8 billion for high-speed rail projects, such as a “magnetic levitation” line from Las Vegas to Disneyland, and $140 million for something called “volcano monitoring.”

Now my colleague Lee Fang observes that Jindal seems to love trains:

The AP reported earlier this month that Gov. Bobby Jindal’s (R-LA) administration is planning to request $300 million dollars from the federal government to develop a high-speed rail between Baton Rouge and New Orleans. The trains, which would run at about 79mph, would be part of a larger Gulf Coast rail plan with top speeds of 110mph. Much of the money, however, comes from the Recovery Act, a stimulus measure Jindal not only opposed, but recently called a failure.

I haven’t looked at this issue in detail, but on the face of it a Baton Rouge to New Orleans line actually does sound to me like a wasteful project. We’re talking about connecting the 46th largest metro area in the country to the 67th largest, which suggests that there are a lot of city pairs that ought to be higher priorities. Compare that to Chicago (number three) and Milwaukee (number 39) or consider that the state of Florida contains four separate metro areas (Miami, Tampa, Orlando, Jacksonville) that are all larger than New Orleans. According to Google, the drive between these cities only takes an hour and a half. You could imagine this working, and of course if the state of Louisiana has some vision for it I wouldn’t want to discourage them, but as a use of federal money this strikes me as pretty low down the list of rail projects I would want to fund.

Security

Huckabee Misstates U.S. Policy On Settlements, Accuses Obama Of ‘Hurting The Peace Process’ He Opposes

huckabee-in-jerusalemMike Huckabee has posted a response to criticisms of his lining up with Israeli extremists against U.S. policy while in Israel.

“As a private citizen,” Huckabee wrote, “I have commented on what I have seen based on my past experiences. When I visited Israel in the 1970’s and 1980’s I had no problem visiting Nablus.”

But this time, I couldn’t go because I was with Israelis, and they cannot enter Nablus or Bethlehem or Ramallah. I commented on this because I thought it was remarkable that there are places Israelis can’t go in their own country.

I agree with Huckabee that it is unfortunate that Israelis cannot visit Nablus, Bethlehem and Ramallah more freely, but of course Nablus, Bethlehem and Ramallah are not in Israel. They are in the Palestinian territories, under Israeli military occupation. Huckabee doesn’t recognize this because he doesn’t recognize any Palestinian claim to Palestine, and sees the Palestinian people themselves as mere inconveniences to the goal of “redeeming” the biblical land of Israel.

As I wrote in my article for the American Prospect today, Huckabee’s folksy manner shouldn’t distract you from the extremism of these views: They are the mirror image of Hamas’s views. Or, as Spencer Ackerman pointed out yesterday, at least they were until Hamas accepted a Palestinian state along the 1967 lines. So Huckabee has positioned himself to Hamas’s right on the question of two states for two peoples.

Huckabee continues:

Just as I believe that Israelis should be able to travel to all parts of their country, I believe they should be able to live wherever they want in that country, and that the U. S. government should not tell an Israeli family that they can’t add a nursery to their house when they welcome a new baby, or tell an Israeli village that they can’t add a classroom to their schoolhouse. As a private citizen, I disagree, and I have a right to disagree, with President Obama’s demand for a freeze on Israel’s building new settlements, and with his further demand for a freeze on expansion of existing settlements, despite the natural growth that a community experiences. His call for such a complete freeze contradicts the policy not just of President Bush, but of President Clinton, indeed of all our presidents since Israel’s victory in the 1967 war.

Of course Huckabee has a right to disagree with U.S. policy. But it would probably be helpful if he would actually do the reading before he spoke up in class. Not even the Netanyahu government has insisted on a right to build new settlements, but they have insisted upon their right to build within existing settlements. President Obama, however, is holding the Israelis to the letter of President Bush’s 2003 road map, which Huckabee apparently hasn’t read, in which Israel committed to “freez[ing] all settlement activity.”

What’s really interesting, though, is that, having denied any Palestinian claim to Palestine, opposing Israel’s relinquishing control of any Palestinian land and suggesting that the Palestinians should be made to take a state “elsewhere,” Huckabee then blames President Obama’s focus on settlements for “hurting” the peace process. That is, he criticizes Obama for mismanaging a peace process that Huckabee has already admitted that he doesn’t support. It’s almost as if Huckabee is arguing in bad faith or something.

Meanwhile, Amjad Atallah responds to Huckabee’s transfer talk with a modest proposal.

Climate Progress

YouTube, Sinclair prove Anthony Watts knows as much about copyright laws as about climate science

When we last left our favorite former TV weatherman, he was offering the ‘inanity defense’ for his effort to censor Peter Sinclair’s Climate Denial “Crock of the Week” video.

The man behind the top anti-scientific website WattsUpWithThat regularly defames top climate scientists and pushes the most seemingly detailed but ultimately nonsensical analyses (see here) — yet he could not even be bothered to spend one minute googling “copyright laws” or “fair use.”  The result:   Not only did he publish the most embarrassing, torturous and self-revealing  defense of censorship ever seen on the blogosphere but, YouTube has now (inevitably) sided with Sinclair and reposted the original video:

Sinclair explained to me the process for reinstatement on YouTube — and thanked Watts for the publicity boom — in an email:

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Politics

New poll finds that public support for health care legislation ‘collapses’ if it doesn’t include a public option.

Over the weekend, the White House signaled that it would accept health care reform legislation that lacked a public option, provoking an “outcry” from progressives. Now, a new Rasmussen poll finds that public support for reform legislation “collapses” if it doesn’t include a public plan:

Just 34% of voters nationwide support the health care reform plan proposed by President Obama and congressional Democrats if the so-called “public option” is removed. The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey shows that 57% oppose the plan if it doesn’t include a government-run health insurance plan to compete with private insurers.

It’s not just the public that would withdraw its support from health care legislation that lacks a public insurance plan. Rep. Anthony Weiner (D-NY) told CNBC recently that a Senate deal that cuts out the public option would potentially cost 100 votes in the House, because health reform without a public plan would be “essentially meaningless.”

Yglesias

Political Life’s Mysteries

A bunch of people gather to listen to some dull moralist talk about a "complicated" bill that nobody can fully understand. (wikimedia)

A bunch of people gather to listen to some dull moralist talk (wikimedia)

Julian Sanchez has a post bemoaning “the depressing rarity with which people actually understand the views of people with different ideologies.” It got me thinking.

My personal feeling, the longer I spend in DC and working in the political domain, is that I get better and better at understanding other people’s ideologies. I also feel that people writing about politics often caricature opponents’ views as part of a rhetorical strategy. But I’ve been back-and-forth on the main issues long enough that I’m pretty sure I could switch this blog’s point of view and do a credible job of offering critiques-from-the-right of the progressive liberal health reform movement and the progressive liberal approach to domestic policy generally. One happy consequence of this is that I find the stubborn persistence of principled disagreement less mystifying than I once did, and have a greater appreciation for what I now think of as a certain irreducibly Kierkegaardian element to ideological commitment that, in turn, helps explain why so many “normal” people have such fuzzy political views.

At the same time, I’ve come to be increasingly baffled by the high degree cynicism and immorality displayed in big-time politics. For example, Senators who genuinely do believe that carbon dioxide emissions are contributing to a global climate crisis seem to think nothing of nevertheless taking actions that endanger the welfare of billions of people on the grounds that acting otherwise would be politically problematic in their state. In other words, they don’t want to do the right thing because their self-interest points them toward doing something bad. But it’s impossible to imagine these same Senators stabbing a homeless person in a dark DC alley to steal his shoes. And what’s more, the entire political class would be (rightly!) shocked and appalled by the specter of a Senator murdering someone for personal gain. Yet it’s actually taken for granted that “my selfish desires dictate that I do x” constitutes a legitimate reason to do the wrong thing on important legislation.

Making it all the odder, the level of self-interest at stake isn’t all that high. Selling the public good down the river to bolster your re-election chances isn’t like stealing a loaf of bread to feed your starving children. The welfare rolls are hardly stocked with the names of former members of congress. Indeed, it’s not even clear that voting “the wrong way” poses particularly serious threats to one’s re-election. But even if it did, one might assume that people who bother to dedicating their lives to securing vast political power did so because they actually wanted to accomplish something and get in the history books, perhaps, as one of the big heroes of their era. Nobody ever writes a biography about the guy who did a good job of reconciling his party’s ideological base with the parochial interests of local businesses and his campaign contributors.

Meanwhile, political argument is actually dominated to an odd degree by fake-technical discussions about how “people think that x but really it’s y” or “a could achieve b if only he did c” with very little attention given to the crucial moral and ethical dimensions of political disputes and political action.

Yglesias

Afghanistan Reading Assignment

I’ve resolved to try to start following the Afghanistan debate more closely now and asked Spencer Ackerman for some reading recommendations. He gave me:

— Rory Stewart, “The Irresistible Illusion” The London Review of Books.

— Gilles Dorronsoro, “The Taliban’s Winning Strategy in Afghanistan” for the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace.

— Andrew Exum and Nathaniel Fick, “Triage: The Next Twelve Months in Afghanistan and Pakistan”.

— David Kilcullen’s February congressional testimony.

I’ve read the Stewart and am now working on Dorronsoro.

One question I’m looking at somewhat hazily is this. If you read accounts of the Soviet war in Afghanistan in the 1980s, people generally always seem to think that American and Saudi and Pakistani support for the Mujahedeen was an important factor. I don’t see anyone saying “it was all a big waste of time and the same stuff would have happened anyway.” The Taliban has, as best as anyone knows, nothing remotely resembling that level of external support. So why isn’t that making more of a difference? Is our side actually much less effective than the Soviets were when you control for the change in external support?

Climate Progress

Carbon polluters launch another PR campaign — FACES of Coal — seriously!

http://www.altiusdirectory.com/Society/uploaded_images/Coal-Miners-Day-756006.jpgIt’s not enough for the coal lobby to hire a top GOP voter-fraud company to run massive “grassroots” efforts to undermine climate and clean energy action.

Now Ken Ward, Jr., the best journalist in West Virginia, reports today:

This afternoon, the coal industry is launching yet another public relations campaign “” this one billing itself as “an alliance of people from all walks of life who have joined forces to educate the general public and lawmakers about the importance of coal and coal mining to our local and national economies.”

This group is calling itself the Federation for American Coal, Energy and Security, which creates the nice abbreviation, FACES of Coal. The group is having a kick-off press event this afternoon at the offices of the Charleston Area Alliance, a regional chamber of commerce group.

The FACES of coal?  This acronym must be the work of real “Mad” Men, perhaps the genius who came up with Frosty the Coalman, Clean Coal Night, Deck the Halls with Clean Coal.   I’m guessing they figured it was better than their first choice, the Federation for Everyone’s Coal, Energy and Security.

Still, does the industry understand what people associate with “faces of coal”?

Here is the rest of Ward’s piece:

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