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Steve King Reminisces About The Days When Football Players Could ‘Get A Job Because They Knew Someone’

Yesterday, Republican members of the House Immigration Reform Caucus (HIRC) dedicated a three and a half hour long pseudo-hearing in a nearly empty room in the Rayburn building to spewing their “well-worn rhetoric about the hordes of illegal aliens destroying the American way of life.” During the event, “American Jobs in Peril: The Impact of Uncontrolled Immigration,” Rep. Steve King (R-IA) seemed to suggest that the U.S. should rid itself of its immigrant workers because, back in the good ‘ol days, high school “football stars” could get good-paying jobs not because they were qualified to work at them, but rather, because “they knew someone”:

Thirty years ago in the packing plants there in that town — which I do call my hometown — you had to know somebody to get a job. And I can remember looking at the football stars on our football team that graduated back in those years in the mid to late 60s and thinking:

“Those guys will get the best-paying jobs at the beef plant. They can just take their degree and go out and get a job — IF they know someone. If they don’t, they won’t get the job. Well I can’t do that because I’m not tall enough or strong enough.”

But today it’s entirely different.

Watch it:

King attributes the end of cronyism in the meatpacking industry and the deterioration of wages and working conditions to undocumented immigrants. The United Food and Commercial Workers International Union (UFCW), which has represented meatpackers for almost a hundred years, has a different take about the sequence of events.

Back in March, Center for Immigration Studies Senior Fellow Jerry Kammer — who was also a panelist at the event — offered an interpretation of the industry’s history similar to King’s, minus the football players. The UFCW was quick to point out that Kammer’s misinterpreted and manipulated “data to reach a totally biased and flawed conclusion” and demonstrated a “complete lack of understanding about the history of the meatpacking industry.” They also provided their own account of what happened:

Immigrants worldwide have been essential in strengthening the U.S. meatpacking industry, by organizing around increased wages and improved industry standards. But during the ‘80’s, something happened. Consolidation, mergers, and company-induced strikes helped drive down wages for meatpackers. During the strikes, companies aggressively recruited strike breakers-not immigrants but individuals who came from the decimated farm industry-to cross the picket lines.

Many of these workers soon realized something: these jobs were tough. Too tough to perform at the wages companies were offering. So, they left. But the damage was done. And the UFCW has been fighting to rebuild wages and standards for these jobs ever since.

In direct reference to yesterday’s event, UFCW’s Director of Civil Rights and Community Action, Esther Lopez, commented, “Given their [King and his allies] terrible track record on worker issues, it really is the height of hypocrisy that they are now trying to portray themselves as champions of workers.”

The House Immigration Reform Caucus (HIRC) is a group of (mostly Republican) representatives founded by former Rep. Tom Tancredo (R-CO) with the mission of stopping “the explosive growth in illegal immigration,” “reversing the growth in legal immigration,” and halting “amnesties.” The forum featured panelists from two of the three organization which “stand at the nexus of the American nativist movement,” and are often referred to as part of the “Nativist Lobby.”

Cross-posted at Think Progress.

Yglesias

The Three Percent Solution

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Building on yesterday’s idea, borrowed from Brad DeLong, that the Fed could stimulate the economy by raising its long-term inflation target from two percent to three percent it’s worth noting that there are other arguments for thinking that this would be a good idea. First off, it’s worth noting that three percent inflation is still pretty low. There’s nothing magical about the two percent number, and a somewhat higher figure is still very much consistent with the basic idea that low inflation is good.

Second, a higher inflation rate would speed the process by which households climb out from over-indebtedness. Third, a higher inflation rate would ensure that in the future the Fed has more “running room” for conventional monetary policy before hitting the zero bound and getting into this madness. Fourth, a higher inflation rate would speed the process by which real wages and prices adjust to whatever real shocks the economy may or may not be suffering from.

This course of action seems to be anathema to the powers that be, but it seems strongly preferable to a prolonged period of ten percent unemployment and a possible series of trade wars and the like.

Politics

Napolitano: “Si no se hace nada, tenemos amnistía por inacción”

Por Andrea Nill.

En una entrevista con Fox & Friends, la Secretaria del Departamento de Seguridad Nacional Janet Napolitano defendió las propuestas que ofreció como parte de su primer discurso sobre la reforma inmigratoria. El viernes pasado, Napolitano anunció que la reforma inmigratoria debe consistir de una “seria y efectiva aplicación de la ley,” un sistema racional para tratar con los flujos futuros de inmigrantes, y—quizás más importante—un camino a la legalización para los que ya están aquí.

El lunes, la presentadora de Fox News Gretchen Carlson pidió que Napolitano explique sus “comentarios polémicos.” Napolitano respondió:

Yo no pienso que sean polémicos. Pienso que son racionales… La noción que de algún modo ustedes pueden encontrar y deportar los 11 ó 12 millones que están aquí ilegalmente es ilusoria. Así que si uno no hace nada, uno tiene básicamente amnistía por inacción. Lo qué nosotros decimos es mire, usted tiene que salir de la clandestinidad, se tiene que reportar, debe pagar una multa, tiene que aprender inglés, y debe ser un contribuyente — ésas son las cosas que sacan a las personas de las sombras.

Véalo:

Jon Feere del Center for Immigration Studies es uno de aquellos individuos que se oponen a las soluciones “polémicas” de Napolitano y favorece una estrategia “ilusoria” de “reducción a través de la aplicación de la ley de mano dura.” Feere propone reducir la población de inmigrantes indocumentados aplicando medidas extremas que incluyen deportar a tantos inmigrantes como sea posible y hacer de sus vidas tan intolerables que aquellos que no sean detenidos escojan ser deportados “por sí mismos.” Aparte de las implicaciones morales cuestionables asociadas con la recomendación de Feere, la reducción a mano dura no es viable.

Es muy probable que los costos asociados con el esfuerzo masivo de la deportación alcancen los $206 mil millones dentro de cinco años, y podría alcanzar los $230 mil millones o más. Mientras tanto, el costo asociado con el proyecto de la reforma inmigratoria del 2006 que hubiera puesto a inmigrantes indocumentados en un camino hacia la legalización hubiese sido de $66 mil millones en un período de 10 años. La mayoría de los inmigrantes indocumentados llegan a EEUU debido a la desesperación económica en sus países y es improbable que el gobierno pueda legalmente hacer sus vidas más difíciles aquí, a comparación de lo que padecieron en el extranjero.

En última instancia, es improbable que el gobierno federal comience a invertir miles de millones de dólares en una estrategia “ilusoria” que sólo es respaldada por una minoría vocal. Solicitar que los inmigrantes indocumentados se registren con el gobierno, paguen los impuestos que ellos deben, y encaren ciertas penas como parte de ganar condición legal es un “duro y justo” camino a la legalización que tienen el apoyo de la mayoría de los votantes, y no es una amnistía la cual no es respaldada. Mientras tanto, la falta de acción sobre la reforma inmigratoria representa un perdón silencioso del status quo que pasa desapercibido.

Read in English.

Politics

Angry supporters boo Palin for leaving in the middle of her book signing: ‘Quittin’ on the job!’

Former Alaska governor Sarah Palin was in Indiana yesterday for a book-signing at a Borders store. One thousand lucky fans with wristbands to meet Palin stood in the rain all day waiting for her to arrive. However, Palin quit the event before she had the chance to sign all the books, leaving 100 supporters out in the cold:

“I’m very disappointed. I think it was very rude. She could have at least apologized, and she didn’t even do that,” said Teresa Hedrick. [...]

“We bought two books from Borders to have our receipt and our wristband to get it signed tonight,” said one woman. “My books are going back to Borders tomorrow.”

“We gave up our entire workday, stayed in the cold. My kids were crying,” said one man. “They went home with my wife. She was out here in the freezing cold all day. I feel like I don’t want to support Sarah.

People who didn’t get to meet Palin “went home only with a piece of paper with Palin’s signature.” Video from the event shows angry wristband-holders loudly booing Palin and yelling, “Sign our books!” and “Quittin’ on the job!” Watch it:

(HT: Ben Smith)

Yglesias

Needles in Haystacks

I think we might do a lot of good in the world, and even improve people’s personal decision-making, if we made everyone take a basic statistics class in high school. Certainly both the mammogram dispute and the post-Nidal Hasan resurgence of interest in “profiling” of Muslims is a reminder that most people don’t intuitively grasp the Bayes’ Law point about accurate tests for rare conditions. I’m finding it annoying to watch all these people with no relevant medical or scientific expertise sounding off about who should get checked for breast cancer, so let’s talk about terrorists instead.

Suppose I invent a magical device that can be pointed at a Muslim and say with 90% accuracy whether or not he’s an al-Qaeda operative. Well, if I start waving it around and it starts beeping on one guy, what should we conclude about him? A terrifyingly large number of people are going to say “there’s a ninety percent chance he’s with al-Qaeda! Let’s panic!” In fact, that’s not the case. There are a billion Muslims in the world. A test with 90 percent accuracy is going to mistakenly classify about 100 million of them as al-Qaeda operatives. And al-Qaeda actually has fewer than 10,000 people working for it. I’m going to get something like 10,000 false positives for every actual terrorist I find.

Meanwhile, applying the test to people is going to have severe consequences. The public doesn’t understand this correctly and is going to be put into a wholly unwarranted state of panic about the prevalence of terrorists. People will, of course, demand that those flagged by my machine be subjected to extra-heightened scrutiny. It’s easy to imagine lots of innocent people being mistakenly killed or subjected to discrimination or shunning. And that sense of beseigement and unfair treatment would ultimately heighten tensions between the world’s Muslims and the West, while wasting massive quantities of law enforcement resources chasing basically worthless leads.

Climate Progress

ClimateGate: Hacked Emails Reveal Global Warming Deniers Are Crazed Conspiracy Theorists

Global warming is a MYTH.Thousands of “emails from the University of East Anglia webmail server” — a top climate research center in the United Kingdom — “were hacked recently” and dumped on a Russian web server. Global warming deniers are sifting through the illegally obtained letters of private correspondence for “proof” that the scientific consensus on climate change is actually a global conspiracy.

— “If you own any shares in alternative energy companies I should start dumping them NOW,” says the Telegraph’s James Delingpole.

– Hot Air’s Ed Morrissey claims the emails discuss “repetitive, false data of higher temperatures.”

– The National Review’s Chris Horner salivates, “The blue-dress moment may have arrived.”

– “The crimes revealed in the e-mails promise to be the global warming scandal of the century,” blares Michelle Malkin.

– The Australia Herald-Sun’s Andrew Bolt claims the emails are “proof of a conspiracy which is one of the largest, most extraordinary and most disgraceful in moderrn [sic] science.”

Evidently due to this e-mail conspiracy, Arctic sea ice is at historically low levels, Australia is on fire, the northern United Kingdom is underwater, and the world’s glaciers are disappearing. Oh yeah, and it’s the hottest decade in history.

Update

FOXNews evidently agrees with Global Warming Skeptic Trollcat (see above):

FOXNews: Do E-Mails Reveal Scientist Claims On Climate Change are... BUNK?


Update

,FiveThirtyEight‘s Nate Silver weighs in:

I don’t know how you get from some scientist having sexed up a graph in East Anglia ten years ago to The Final Nail In The Coffin of Anthropogenic Global Warming. Anyone who comes to that connection has more screws loose than the Space Shuttle Challenger. And yet that’s literally what some of these bloggers are saying!

Alyssa

Personal History: High School Hip-Hop Edition

So, y’all know I like hip-hop a fair bit.  But I don’t know that I’ve ever explained to you guys why.  So in honor of DJ Stylus’s show tonight, I figured I’d make a full confession.

See, back in the day, I was a competetive high school policy debater.  Policy debate, for those of you not familiar, involves talking incomprehensibly fast about various facets of a topic assigned to you at the end of the previous school year, usually with the end goal of demonstrating that either your policy proposal would prevent a lot of nuclear wars or that the other person’s policy proposal would lead to a lot of nuclear wars.  Either that or destroy the philosophical frameworks by which we know ourselves.  Or whatever.  This video is a pretty good summary.  What you really need to know though was that when I was in high school I, and a bunch of guys in my graduating class, did an activity that involved talking extremely quickly and posturing aggressively.  Is it any wonder we found our way to hip-hop?  Of course, the stuff we found our way to was of sublimely mixed quality.

“Forgot About Dre” was on the high end of the scale:

Em could flow, not almost as fast as we could talk, but in the ballpark.  And “Nowadays, everbody wanna talk like they got something to say / But nothing comes out when they move their lips / Just a bunch of gibberish” was the perfect insult for a bunch of hyperverbal teenagers to toss at each other.  I don’t know if anyone remembers this, but some hackers put together a fake CNN page purporting to report that Eminem had died in a car crash my junior year.  I thought my debate partner at the time was going to have a heart attack.  Fortunately, Eminem survived, and my partner did too.  Our obsession with that song though left me with a life-long weakness for guys who can rhyme really, really fast.  I listen to far more Twista than anyone should, as a result.

Then, there was the psych-up stuff, most notably, Nelly’s “Number One”:

This song isn’t really defensible, but I like it anyway.  It’s super-outdated, with the references to Sprint and Motorola’s networks, “some internet chat line,” etc.  It’s totally narratively and argumentatively incoherent.  It’s weirdly defensive for a song about how awesome Nelly theoretically is.  The facial bandaid was the stupidest accessory ever.  And yet the chorus “What does it take to be number one? / Two is not a winner / And three nobody remembers” is a bracing rebuke the the “we’re all winners” educational psychology a lot of us got fed in school.  In debate, when you lost, it was brutal.  This was a way to remind yourself of that, and to prepare yourself for it.

And then, for some reason, some of our coaches hooked us up with The Gourds cover of “Gin & Juice,” which really, I think you have to concede, is incredibly funny:

I don’t know that this song had any major impact on my hip-hop habits, which is probably a good thing, since it’s incredibly goofy.  I don’t really like party rap that much, just because I think it tends to be less lyrically creative and easily slides into misogyny.  But this is classic.

Fortunately, I got exposed to better stuff.  I remember hearing OutKast’s “Ms. Jackson” on the radio for the first time as an almost spiritual experience, one that kicked off a life-long love of Dirty South rap.

And I will forever owe my drama teacher, who made us watch Slam, and introduced me to Saul Stacey Williams (and also stars Sonja Sohn).  This blew my head off:

I mean literally.  I cannot begin to explain what a huge impact “Amethyst Rock” had I mean.  I knew a fair amount about the mechanics of politics, thanks to the debate team, but “the feds is also plotting me /
they’re trying to imprison my astrology / put my stars behind bars, my stars and stripes / using blood-splattered banners as nationalist kites” was one of the most passionately political sentences I’d ever heard in my entire life.  Ditto for Jessica Care Moore’s “Black Statue of Liberty”:

Somewhere along the way, I lost my copy of Listen Up!, this fantastic collection of slam poetry, but I still have Williams’ She, which is one of the best documents about love and sex I know.

Such a mix of stuff, I know.  But listening to and reading all this stuff again this week really swept me back into what it was like to be 15, 16, 17.  I don’t apologize for liking the worst of this stuff, but it’s all tangled up with powerful memories for me now.  For better or for worse, this was one of the places where I started, and a powerful force in the directions I began to grow.

Politics

Rep. King Reminisces About The Days When Football Players Could ‘Get A Job Because They Knew Someone’

Yesterday, Republican members of the House Immigration Reform Caucus (HIRC) dedicated a three and a half hour long pseudo-hearing in a nearly empty room in the Rayburn building to spewing their “well-worn rhetoric about the hordes of illegal aliens destroying the American way of life.” During the event, “American Jobs in Peril: The Impact of Uncontrolled Immigration,” Rep. Steve King (R-IA) seemed to suggest that the U.S. should rid itself of its immigrant workers because, back in the good ‘ol days, high school “football stars” could get good-paying jobs not because they were qualified to work at them, but rather, because “they knew someone”:

Thirty years ago in the packing plants there in that town — which I do call my hometown — you had to know somebody to get a job. And I can remember looking at the football stars on our football team that graduated back in those years in the mid to late 60s and thinking:

“Those guys will get the best-paying jobs at the beef plant. They can just take their degree and go out and get a job — if they know someone. If they don’t, they won’t get the job. Well I can’t do that because I’m not tall enough or strong enough.”

But today it’s entirely different.

Watch it:

King attributes the end of cronyism in the meatpacking industry and the deterioration of wages and working conditions to undocumented immigrants. The United Food and Commercial Workers International Union (UFCW), which has represented meatpackers for almost a hundred years, has a different take about the sequence of events.

Back in March, Center for Immigration Studies Senior Fellow Jerry Kammer — who was also a panelist at the event — offered an interpretation of the industry’s history similar to King’s, minus the football players. The UFCW was quick to point out that Kammer’s misinterpreted and manipulated “data to reach a totally biased and flawed conclusion” and demonstrated a “complete lack of understanding about the history of the meatpacking industry.” They also provided their own account of what happened:

Immigrants worldwide have been essential in strengthening the U.S. meatpacking industry, by organizing around increased wages and improved industry standards. But during the ‘80’s, something happened. Consolidation, mergers, and company-induced strikes helped drive down wages for meatpackers. During the strikes, companies aggressively recruited strike breakers-not immigrants but individuals who came from the decimated farm industry-to cross the picket lines.

Many of these workers soon realized something: these jobs were tough. Too tough to perform at the wages companies were offering. So, they left. But the damage was done. And the UFCW has been fighting to rebuild wages and standards for these jobs ever since.

In direct reference to yesterday’s event, UFCW’s Director of Civil Rights and Community Action, Esther Lopez, commented, “Given their [King and his allies] terrible track record on worker issues, it really is the height of hypocrisy that they are now trying to portray themselves as champions of workers.”

The House Immigration Reform Caucus (HIRC) is a group of (mostly Republican) representatives founded by former Rep. Tom Tancredo (R-CO) with the mission of stopping “the explosive growth in illegal immigration,” “reversing the growth in legal immigration,” and halting “amnesties.” The forum featured panelists from two of the three organization which “stand at the nexus of the American nativist movement,” and are often referred to as part of the “Nativist Lobby.”

Yglesias

What Leverage Does Chinese Ownership of US Assets Give Them?

I agree with Stephen Walt’s overall point that part of what we’re seeing on Barack Obama’s Asia trip is that the Bush administration’s squandering of American national power has increased China’s status vis-a-vis the United States. That said, there’s a particular thread in his comments that you hear a lot and that I don’t really understand:

No president is going to be able to lay down the law on human rights, exchange rates, or sanctions on Iran when China owns over a trillion dollars in U.S. assets, when the U.S. economy is on life support, and when the American military Is mired in two losing wars. Until we get our house in order over here, nobody should expect China to be especially responsive to our wishes or expect its leaders to view the “American model” as especially appealing.

My question is, in the specific case of the US-China currency dispute what leverage does Chinese ownership of US assets give them? If we annoy them too much about our desire to see their currency appreciate, they might sell their dollar-denominated assets thus . . . causing their currency to appreciate? It doesn’t add up. China isn’t buying that stuff as a favor to us that they can then revoke. They’re buying it as an integral element of their exchange rate policy.

The real question about this is whether American officials really want them to stop. They say they do. But while dollar depreciation would be good for the American labor market, and good for the long-term balance of the world economy, it could make the deficit situation more urgent.

Climate Progress

Here’s what we know so far: CRU’s emails were hacked, the 2000s will easily be the hottest decade on record, and the planet keeps warming thanks to us! The NY Times blows the story.

NOTE:  This post will be continually updated to cover things like the NYT’s misdirected (front page!) reporting.

FOXNews: Do E-Mails Reveal Scientist Claims On Climate Change are... BUNK?

As many of you will be aware, a large number of emails from the University of East Anglia webmail server were hacked recently (Despite some confusion generated by Anthony Watts, this has absolutely nothing to do with the Hadley Centre which is a completely separate institution).

So begins the RealClimate post on this hack-heard-round-the-blogosphere.   At the end, I’ll excerpt that post, which makes clear this is much ado about not bloody much.  I’ll also look at the

The predictable FoxNews take is here (screen capture of their front page is above).  At the end, I’ll post some truly amazing quotes from the anti-scientific side of the blogosphere, from Brad Johnson’s Wonk Room post, including this from the Telegraph’s James Delingpole:

If you own any shares in alternative energy companies I should start dumping them NOW.

Whatever smoke the anti-scientific disinformers are able to blow into people’s faces over this bunch of emails dating back over a decade, it doesn’t change the basic facts about human-caused warming:

http://data.giss.nasa.gov/gistemp/graphs/Fig.A2.lrg.gif

Figure: Time series of global mean heat storage (0-2000 m), measured in 108 Jm-2.

The NYT‘s Revkin has a piece whose headline and lede, typically, misses the entire point, “Hacked E-Mails Fuel Climate Change Skeptics.”  Note to Andy:  Everything fuels the disinformers! And that includes studies and data that prove the exact opposite of what they assert.

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