[CP's Bill Becker adds his perspective on the current climate debate in DC and on the conservatives who fight action at any cost, including the health and well-being of future generations. While you read this, ignore the conservative revisionism that the New Deal prolonged the Depression and did not stimulate the economy. In fact, historian Eric Rauchway notes "Excepting 1937-1938, unemployment fell each year of Roosevelt's first two terms [while] the U.S. economy grew at average annual growth rates of 9 percent to 10 percent.” What happened those two years? As Nobel-winning economist Paul Krugman has noted, in 1937-38, FDR “was persuaded to balance the budget” by fiscal conservatives and “cut spending and the economy went back down again” (see here).]
Growing National Debt

It’s time for a reality check in the contentious debate over the investments President Obama has proposed to fight global climate change and build a new energy economy.
As Ken Burns once put it, “we need a little more Pluribus and a little less Unum” in the United States these days. Instead, a newly outraged Outrage Class is firing bullets made of silly putty, hoping some will stick to the new President.
Here are some prominent current examples:
Burdening Our Children With Debt: A frequent argument from fiscal conservatives is that borrowing money to build a new energy economy — including the investments contained in President Obama’s stimulus package and his 2010 budget proposal — will place an unconscionable debt on our children. Reacting to deficit projections from the Obama budget, for example, House Minority Leader John Boehner, R-Ohio, said: “We simply cannot continue to mortgage our children and grandchildren’s future to pay for bigger and more costly government.”
But the debt we should be most concerned about is our carbon debt. It’s a far more serious threat to future generations. Researchers at the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration recently concluded that even if we stop emitting carbon dioxide now, the impact of climate change from emissions already in the atmosphere will have “legacies that will irreversibly change the plant” with damages continuing for 1,000 years. Among them are coastal inundation, drought, desertification, wild fires and disruptions to agriculture. They all carry big economic costs that will undermine our kids’ prosperity as well as their health, safety and quality of life.
We all agree that it would be far better to pay cash up front to build the green economy, but past Congresses and the past Administration have left the country broke. The President’s response to Boehner was right on target: “What we will not cut are investments that will lead to real growth and prosperity over the long term.”
Not making those investments now will burden our children with and irreversible carbon debt that sentences them to hundreds of years of tragically negative returns. The carbon debt is by far the worst curse.
Drill, baby, drill! In a TIME column titled “The Bad New Deal“, Newt Gingrich argues that Obama’s budget proposals will cripple the economy rather than heal it. Among other things, Gingrich writes, Obama’s proposal to levy a 13 percent excise tax on offshore oil drilling is “threatening the domestic oil and gas industry at a time when we should be encouraging it to return resources home to America.”
Gingrich would have the Obama Administration join the “drill, baby, drill” chant that inspired such enthusiasm at the Republican National Convention, and embrace a “strategy for energy abundance that would lower energy costs by exploring for more domestic oil and natural gas, as well as investing in sources of affordable energy for the future, including clean coal, renewable fuels, wind and nuclear.”
There are a couple of problems here. First, Obama is the Chief Advocate of using America’s native energy resources. The difference is that he favors resources that lead us out of the age of carbon, pollution and resource wars. Compare Gingrich’s policy statement above with this one by Obama in his 2010 budget proposal:
The pursuit of a new energy economy requires a sustained, all-hands-on-deck effort because the foundation of our energy independence is right here, in America — in the power of wind and solar, in new crops and new technologies, in the innovation of our scientist and entrepreneurs, and the dedication and skill of our workforce. As we face this challenge, we can seize boundless opportunities for our people. We can create millions of jobs. We can spark the dynamism of our economy through long-term investments in renewable energy that will give life to new businesses and industries, with good jobs that pay well and can’t be outsourced.
A second problem with Gingrich’s prescription is this: Our oil addiction is bad not just because we import a lot of it. It’s also bad because it is a major contributor to climate change, no matter where the oil comes from. The issue is not how much oil we can take from the ground; it’s how much carbon we can put into the air.
Third, it’s been pretty well established by the Department of Energy and other experts that more domestic drilling would not do much to lower petroleum prices, even if we didn’t put a price on carbon. Clean coal and nuclear power won’t lead to lower energy prices either. In addition to many other drawbacks, electricity from next-generation nuclear power plants and power plants equipped with clean coal technology (if it’s ever perfected) will cost considerably more than electricity today — and considerably more than electricity is likely to cost in the years ahead from wind and solar resources. For example, officials at DOE estimate electricity will cost 36-81 percent more from coal-fired power plants equipped to capture their carbon emissions.
So whose is the greater vision for our times? No contest.
The Tax Bugaboo: As I predicted in a past post, any policy that puts a price on carbon will be branded by opponents as a tax increase, even if it does not involve a tax. The “tax” word is the poison dart that everyone throws these days at energy and global warming proposals they don’t like, often for vested or ideological reasons.
For example, Boehner complains that Obama’s proposal for a cap-and-trade system (which is not a carbon tax) will “increase taxes on all Americans who drive a car, who have a job, who turn on a light switch, pure and simple”. The Independent Petroleum Association of America (IPAA) protests that President Obama’s 2010 budget proposal will deliver a “devastating blow” to the U.S. oil and gas industry by repealing several tax breaks those industries now enjoy.
Yet the President has proposed sending most of the revenue from carbon trading — estimated at $645 billion over the next 10 years — back to taxpayers. When it comes to subsidies like those the oil and gas industries now receive in a textbook example of corporate welfare, I come back to the problem of oil addiction: If oil addiction is bad, then why are we still subsidizing the drug? We should be subsidizing the cure. As The Economist puts it: “There is no point in calling for cleaner energy while subsidizing the dirty kind.”
Everyone who believes that the marketplace should be allowed to solve our energy and climate problems — and that includes a lot of fiscal conservatives — should be overjoyed at the prospect of pricing carbon and ending subsidies for fossil fuels. Both policies create more accurate market signals by bringing the price of fossil energy closer to its true costs to society. Repealing fossil subsidies would eliminate a public policy perversity that encourages consumers to undermine the critical national goals of economic, energy and climate security.
“Capitalizing on Crisis“: Some critics of Obama’s aggressive first 50 days in office argue that he is using the economic crisis to implement a liberal agenda. An example is Jonah Goldberg’s March 10 rant in the Los Angeles Times, titled “Obama’s fear-mongering.” An excerpt:
The real scandal is that this administration thinks crises are opportunities for governmental power-grabs… It’s scary. Its amorality is outweighed only by the grotesque and astoundingly naked cynicism of it all…Obama’s defenders respond to this argument that Obama’s motives are decent, noble and pure. He wants to help the uninsured and the poorly educated. He wants to make good on his vow to halt those rising oceans. But this is just a rationalization. Every president thinks his agenda is what’s best for the country; every politician believes his motives are noble. The point is that scaring people about X in order to achieve Y is fundamentally undemocratic.
Goldberg goes on to accuse Obama’s supporters of being two-faced because many of them decried how President Bush and the Republican Party used fear to push its agenda after 9-11.
Commentary rarely gets more specious than that. Can we really compare Obama’s initiatives — improving education, investing in a new energy economy, dealing with climate change and addressing health-care costs, all of them important to U.S. prosperity — with the Bush Administration’s unauthorized surveillance on American citizens, revocation of due process for detainees, torture and the costly fabricated war in Iraq?
In his TIME commentary, Gingrich shows he’s not above a little fear-mongering himself. He invokes Nazi Germany, Imperial Japan and Global Communism to push a 12-point agenda he calls his American Solution for Jobs and Prosperity:
Here in America, the unemployment numbers keep growing. Such icons of U.S. economic power as Citigroup, General Motors and General Electric are in trouble. The big-spending strategy employed by George W. Bush and now Obama has so far failed to turn around the economic decline. Congressional leaders are talking about the need for a second stimulus package. No one should underestimate the danger posed by these policy failures. Gigantic economic dislocations have gigantic noneconomic consequences. The Great Depression led to the rise of Nazi Germany and a militaristic Japan, the spread of communism and World War II.
If these commentators are disturbed by Obama’s agenda, they must be downright outraged at the American people. Obama is doing exactly what he was elected overwhelmingly to do: Change our course and put America back on a path that makes us hopeful and proud.
Surely Obama’s loyal opposition can muster better arguments than these. Or perhaps they can’t. Either way, we should all beware of special interests, soldiers of the status quo and ideologues who think they can treat us like dummies. Let’s don’t prove them right.
JR: Let me add that, in fact, one of the things the Great Depression shows is that abundance nurtures democracy whereas scarcity nurtures fascism and militarism. If we continue to listen to the do-nothing, Ponzi-scheme-pushing conservatives, we will destroy this Garden of Eden and enter a century of scarcity that will drive wars and militarism and I suspect fascism — see what happens “when the global Ponzi scheme collapses (circa 2030)“.
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…”abundance nurtures democracy whereas scarcity nurtures fascism”
Interesting point – Can democracy survive in a constrained system?
We will have moved to a new plane of evolution.
2008/2009 The inflection indeed.
Every one is beginning to sitting up and watch in ‘slow motion’ as things are starting to collapse around us….peak oil, more like peak civilization.
Perfect storm of environmental and economic collapse closer than you think
Jonathon Porritt
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2009/mar/23/jonathon-porritt-recession-climate-crisis
…”the neo-liberal obsession with deregulation has done untold damage to capital markets. But people should understand that the same deregulatory fervour has caused untold damage to the natural environment,”…
It’s really rich to hear the conservatives bloviate on about deficits that they created and now inherited by Obama. Shall we go on a little time travel trip to, oh say 2004 when a concerned Treasury Secretary Paul O’ Neil was scolded by Cheney when he, O’ Neil, over concern about the federal budget deficit. To whit Cheney responded with the classic, “REAGAN PROVED THAT DEFECITS DON’T MATTER.” So when to deficits matter? Only when you created them and your opposition is in power.
The solution is now to invest in the technologies and solutions that will simultaneously provide jobs, clean energy, increase energy security and halt further global warming. The conservative’s response, “This will wreck the economy!” “This is socialism!” “This is fascism (in other terms)!” So it was OK when we were wire tapping, torturing and Cheney was running his private assassination ring from his fourth branch of government in a way that would have made General Augusto Pinochet weep but that’s not a power grab.
Ladies and gentlemen I give you the politics of Wahhhhh, with apologies to Jon Stewart.
Such an acceleration toward fascism is such a distasteful nightmare. But even playing devils advocate, I cannot see how such a direction would help us mitigate or adapt. Although a totalitarian regime -ugh- might do better in attacking the problem head on. Our experiment in democracy is challenged.
Climate change unfolds according to physical laws not political movements, and that may be a blessing.
It seems to me that these conservative deniers who champion nuclear and “clean” coal are just simply loathe to let go of the enormous profits to be made from non-renewable sources of energy, and will oppose any moves towards solar and wind at every opportunity (see the Dianne Feinstein story 2 posts prior to this one).
Here we go…lets use nuclear power to process Tar Sands…
Bruce Power chooses new site for proposed nuclear plant
http://www.cbc.ca/canada/edmonton/story/2009/03/23/edm-bruce-power-new-site.html
…proposed nuclear power plant in northern Alberta,
Fine figure you have there. Going upwards and upwards at the end. Are we really able to change this trend going downwards in ten years? We know that we must do it to continue as a species.
We have a WW III or WW IV job in our hands to do it.
Gail, I don’t think this the case…
“It seems to me that these conservative deniers who champion nuclear and “clean” coal are just simply loathe to let go of the enormous profits to be made from non-renewable sources of energy…”
I think, for most of the deniers it’s about winning the political game.
Anything that is supported by the left/greens/Democrats must be opposed in any way possible. Even if by doing so they shoot themselves in the foot. And risk destroying the futures of their children and grandchildren.
I doubt that most people who listen to Limbaugh, dolt on on O’Reilly, applaud for Palin have any vested interest in the profits of fossil fuel.
In fact, I bet most of them would be financially better off if we were to insulate their houses, change out their old inefficient refrigerators, and give them plug in cars to drive.
But, for them, it’s all about supporting the team.
“My Party, right or wrong.”
“we were wire tapping, torturing and Cheney was running his private assassination ring from his fourth branch of government”
Amen the Jesus Lord almighty in Heaven!
Isnt that just Buisness as usual under the big G?
Mr. wallace your statement rings true! Hopefully an uver-due reform of the education system will allow us to act properly and intelligently in the great social, economical collapse almost guarunteed to occur in 15 – 20 years.
that looks like a “Best PPT” to me! Whoa…….frightening as hell…..