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McCain Embraces 16-Month Withdrawal: ‘I Think It’s A Pretty Good Timetable’

Following Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki’s declaration of support for a 16-month withdrawal timeline from Iraq, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) has been struggling to respond. He spent most of this week railing against any “artificial timetable” for withdrawal from Iraq, vaguely insisting that the U.S. will withdraw only “with victory”:

“[Obama showed] ‘a remarkable failure to understand the facts on the ground’ by continuing to call for a withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq on a fixed timetable.” [Philadelphia Inquirer, 7/24/08]

An artificial timetable based on political expediency would have led to disaster and could still turn success into defeat,” Mr. McCain said. [New York Times, 7/19/08]

McCAIN: So the fact is that we have succeeded. We are winning. They’ll come home with honor. And it won’t be just at a set timetable. [CBS interview, 7/22/08]

But in an interview with CNN’s Wolf Blitzer today, McCain seemed to endorse the idea of a timetable. When asked if Maliki would “persist” in requesting a 16-month withdrawal timetable from Iraq, McCain responded, “He won’t. … I know him.” McCain then praised Maliki’s 16-month timetable:

BLITZER: So why do you think he said that 16 months is basically a pretty good timetable?

McCAIN: He said it’s a pretty good timetable based on conditions on the ground. I think it’s a pretty good timetable, as we should — or horizons for withdrawal. But they have to be based on conditions on the ground.

Watch it:

Indeed, as McCain told former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney during a presidential debate in January: “Timetables was the buzzword for those that wanted to get out.”

Focusing On Presidential Transition Planning Now Isn’t Presumptuous; It’s Necessary

Our guest blogger is P.J. Crowley, a Senior Fellow and the Director of Homeland Security at the Center for American Progress Action Fund.

mccainobama3.jpgYesterday, the Obama campaign acknowledged that it is already focused on transition planning. The retort from the McCain campaign was to call this an example of “poor judgment.” On the contrary, it demonstrates a campaign that really understands the complex world and pressures that the next president will face.

This interesting exchange between the McCain and Obama campaigns says a lot about not only which candidate has experience, but what he is actually doing with that experience. What is interesting is that the action and reaction is contradicted by current political perceptions.

With apologies to Jules Verne, you may be able to go around the world in 80 days, but you cannot form a government in such a short time. The British have a formal concept of a shadow government, since in a parliamentary system, transitions can occur fairly rapidly. The United States does not, and the period between November 4 and January 20 is hardly enough time for a president-elect to win, celebrate, recruit and vet a substantial senior leadership team that he knows will work effectively together and ensure that his essential policy pillars are on realistic footing.

If we learned anything from 9/11, it is that world events won’t wait for the new president to get his feet on the ground. The Bush administration was unfocused. Only a fraction of its leadership was in place, and it was seriously divided on major policy questions and governing philosophy. Policies were made up as events went along. Major mistakes were made, such as a trillion dollar conflict in Iraq largely unrelated to al Qaeda.

Here at the Center for American Progress Action Fund, we have launched a Homeland Security Presidential Transition Initiative to help the president-elect, regardless of who wins, assess what will need to be done during the transition and in the first year to keep the country safe. We hope to create a dialogue on these issues before November. The campaigns must be thinking and planning as well, even if homeland security is not a major campaign issue.

Why is this important? Attempted attacks have become a staple of groups like al Qaeda. Given this heightened risk, one of our earliest conclusions was that the two candidates cannot wait until November to focus on this challenge. Advance work will be necessary to have an effective leadership team ready, establish relationships with key stakeholders across the country, prepare the public for what lies ahead and outline concrete priorities for the first 100 days and first year in office.

This is not being presumptuous. Actually, it is being presidential.

REPORT: At $648 Billion, Cost Of Iraq War Almost Equal To Vietnam

bushfltsuit.jpgIn his 1999 book, A Charge To Keep, President Bush said he had “learned the lessons of Vietnam” about “never again ask[ing] the military to fight a political war.” After launching the Iraq war, in April 2004, Bush rejected the analogy that Iraq was turning into a quagmire like Vietnam:

Q: How do you answer the Vietnam comparison?

BUSH: I think the analogy is false.

Last August, however, President Bush reversed course and embraced the Vietnam analogy, stating Vietnam taught us that “the price of America’s withdrawal” is steep and painful.

In a new report, the Congressional Research Service (CRS) reveals that the real similarity between Iraq and Vietnam is in the price of staying. In constant FY2008 dollars, the Vietnam war cost the U.S. $686 billion. The Iraq war, at just over five years old, is priced at $648 billion:

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CRS notes, “All estimates are of the costs of military operations only and do not reflect costs of veterans benefits, interest on war-related debt, or assistance to allies.” Thus, the actual costs of the Iraq war are likely much greater, as Nobel Prize economist Joe Stiglitz reported in his book, The Three Trillion Dollar War.

It is unlikely, however, that the White House is concerned about these mounting costs. In October, the CBO conservatively said the wars may cost $2 trillion over the next decade. “I’m not worried about the number,” White House Press Secretary Dana Perino said in response, calling the estimate “pure speculation.”

Indeed, “the price of America’s withdrawal” from Iraq may be an alternative that Bush should strongly consider.

Krauthammer: ‘Seizing the Fruits of Victory’

chuckkrauthammer.jpgPerforming his function as the neocon id, Charles Krauthammer gets down to what the Iraq withdrawal debate is really about:

McCain, like George Bush, envisions the United States seizing the fruits of victory from a bloody and costly war by establishing an extensive strategic relationship that would not only make the new Iraq a strong ally in the war on terror but would also provide the U.S. with the infrastructure and freedom of action to project American power regionally, as do U.S. forces in Germany, Japan and South Korea.

As with Krauthammer’s touting the “hidden agenda” of John McCain’s proposed League of Democracies as an instrument “to essentially kill the U.N.,” you can imagine the rest of the Neocon Kids standing just offstage and frantically making the “cut” sign.

Thanks to Krauthammer, though, for clarifying the issue, and the issue is keeping U.S. bases in Iraq. More broadly, it’s about the desperate need of conservatives to realize some sort of strategic benefit from a disastrous war to which dozens of their reputations are rightly tied.

As Josh Marshall described back in April 2003, the Iraq war was never just about WMD. The Iraq invasion of March 2003 was conceived as part of an effort to create a new strategic architecture in the Middle East, and a shiny new democratic and pro-American Iraq was to have been the central plank of this new architecture. In keeping with the tendency of neoconservatives to avoid polluting their theories with actual knowledge of the various countries they want to invade and remake, it never occurred to the various brains of this administration that a democratic Iraq might not necessarily be pro-American one, or at the very least might object to its territory being used as a staging area for future U.S. invasions of its neighbors.

Krauthammer:

The Democrats have long been protesting the Bush administration’s hard bargaining for strategic assets in postwar Iraq. Maliki knows the Democrats are so sick of this war, so politically and psychologically committed to its liquidation, so intent on doing nothing to vindicate “Bush’s war,” that they simply want out with the least continued American involvement.

Democrats haven’t been “protesting the Bush administration’s hard bargaining” as much as they’ve been protesting the administration’s attempt to dictate U.S. posture in Iraq to future administrations, as well as to the current Iraqi one. It’s Krauthammer who is so politically and psychologically committed to his fantasy of a new American Middle East imperium that he can’t see Maliki’s assertion of Iraqi sovereignty as anything other than an attempt to screw conservatives.

As to the question of “vindicating” the most disastrous national security blunder in modern American history, let’s understand: No matter how hard Krauthammer wishes it, there is no plausible scenario in which the decision to invade Iraq can or will ever be vindicated. In the best case, we will have simply averted disaster. Even were Iraq to magically bloom into a secular democracy tomorrow, there is simply no political, strategic, or moral calculus by which the destruction and suffering — to say nothing of the economic cost — of the last five and a half years can be judged to have been “worth it.”

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The Game-Changer

Don’t ask me, ask former Bush communications director Dan Bartlett:

“Time will tell, but the al-Maliki comments about a timetable is very close to a game-changing event,” Bartlett told my colleague Daniel Libit in an interview. “That was incredibly damaging [to McCain], because it neutralized one of [Obama’s] biggest liabilities.”

Meanwhile as Joe Klein says the right’s response to Maliki has helped highlight “the bright line of the Iraq debate” between those who want to stay forever and those of us who don’t see the point in trying to station U.S. forces where they’re not wanted.

Yglesias

Beyond “Knowledge”

Fred Kaplan has a good column trying to move beyond John McCain’s many gaffes and get at the point that despite his war hero background, his ideas about foreign policy are terrible. I do, however, think it’s a bit unfortunate that the piece has been titled “How Much Does John McCain Really Know About Foreign Policy?”

In general, I think it’s a mistake to construe the foreign policy issue as one primarily centered on attributes like knowledge, experience, competence, credentials, etc. That kind of thing implies that everyone more-or-less agrees on what our foreign policy should be like, but different figures have different qualifications to run the operation. That’s a nice idea, but it’s not true. The problem with McCain isn’t with any particular gaps in his knowledge base (though those seem to be there) it’s that his militaristic vision of America’s role in the world is likely to launch a new round of great power conflict in a way that makes it impossible to address terrorism, nuclear proliferation, climate change, etc. in a reasonable manner.

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Bad Math

Here’s Ken Pollack explaining that if you count wrong, then McCain and Obama have similar positions on Iraq:



Well, I actually think his timeline, Obama’s timeline, even McCain’s timeline are actually pretty close. Now that’s what you’ve seen over the last 18 months, that we’re now really debating months, maybe years, but really just months. Mr. McCain is basically saying he’ll start some kind of a drawdown in 2011, 2012. Mr. Obama is saying it’d be more like 2009, 2010. And what Maliki seems to be saying is 2010, 2011 — somewhere in the middle.

For one thing, it’s just flat-out wrong to say that Maliki is talking about a drawdown starting in 2010 or 2011 — he said he wanted a timeline whose endpoint is somewhere in 2010. But more to the point, Pollack’s counting the wrong thing. Sure, if you go from when different people say they want to start reducing troop levels there’s not so much disagreement. But the most important part about these timetables is when they end. Obama’s timetable ends in 2010. Maliki’s timetable ends in 2010. McCain’s timetable, by contrast, ends . . . never.

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Krauthammer’s Case

In Version 1 of the argument over whether or not the United States should embrace the Bush/McCain vision of a neoimperial relationship with Iraq, the tendency on the right was to simply deny that this was what they were proposing. The Iraqis, you see, really wanted to be part of an American imperium. Thus in that sense it’s good to see Charles Krauthammer’s demented column in reaction to Maliki’s endorsement of a timeline for withdrawal.

Now Krauthammer is willing to more-or-less squarely put the issue on the table — he wants an imperial relationship with Iraq, Bush wants an imperial relationship with Iraq, and McCain wants an imperial relationship with Iraq, but Iraqis don’t and thus Maliki prefers Obama, the American candidate who doesn’t favor an imperial relationship with Iraq. Of course Krauthammer doesn’t quite put it that way, but that’s what he’s saying — we ought to vote for McCain because McCain will do a better job of strong-arming the Iraqis into accepting a relationship they find repugnant. The trouble here is that any such strong-arming only guarantees that we’ll prolong the Iraq operation. Newfound allies, for example, who decided to side with us against al-Qaeda may think again if they decide that U.S. policy is being animated by the Krauthammer-style sentiments. And across the Arab world, everyone’s worst impressions of American power will be reconfirmed. And for what? To mitigate political risk for western oil companies? To provide a convenient base of operations for attacks on Iran that we shouldn’t launch anyway?

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