On Tuesday, Karl Rove and Bill Kristol debated journalists Simon Jenkins and Jacob Wiesberg at an event sponsored by BBC. The debate was whether “President Bush is the worst president of the last 50 years“; Jenkins and Weisberg argued in favor of the resolution, while Rove and Kristol argued against it.
At one point, Weisberg said that the Bush administration had never convinced the world that it had “not taken out Muslims as a particular group.” Kristol and Rove literally laughed at the idea that the United States had targeted and arrested American Muslims as part of its “war on terror” effort:
KRISTOL: What have we done to Muslims in America? What has happened?
JENKINS: Arrested them.
KRISTOL: We’ve arrested Muslims in America? [LAUGHTER]
JENKINS: Incarcerated them without trial.
KRISTOL: We’ve incarcerated Muslims in America without trial?
ROVE: Rounded them up? Rounded, rounded them up? Name one?
ROVE: Name one instance.
JENKINS: The, [UNCLEAR] belabor me all day with lists of people who have vanished. Vanished.
ROVE: You know-
KRISTOL: Well, that-
ROVE: This is on the border of lunacy, with all due respect.
JENKINS: But you didn’t need to do it, you didn’t need to do it-
ROVE: We didn’t do it!
Posting the exchange — to highlight what he saw as Jenkins’ idiocy — on Contentions, Abe Greenwald dismissed Jenkins’ claims as “therapeutic mythologies” that were part of “Bush-villification.” “With their vanishing Muslims, torture chambers, and evil corporate overlords, Bush haters are better suited to the Dungeons and Dragons, sci-fi convention circuit than to the political sphere,” Greenwald wrote.
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