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CIA Unlikely To Follow GOP Presidential Candidates On Waterboarding | Republican presidential candidates Herman Cain and Rep. Michele Bachmann (MN) sparked a little life in the torture debate last weekend when they said they would be willing to put waterboarding back in the interrogation toolbox. Their comments drew sharp criticism from President Obama, and particularly Sen. John McCain (R-AZ), who said he was “very disappointed” in the candidates’ comments. But while the military forbids the use of waterboarding, CNN reports that the CIA also isn’t too keen on getting back into the torture business. As Robert Grenier, the former director of the CIA’s Counterterrorism Center put it, “people in CIA would be very, very wary about going down this road under circumstances where it is not at all clear there is a political consensus behind the use of those sort of aggressive measures.” Another official said: “When you have years-long investigations into past practices, it’s unlikely that you want to spend a minute engaged in them.”

Cain: It’s Not ‘Practical’ To Attack Iran Because It Has Mountains

Herman Cain has had a bad week when it comes to foreign policy — or rather, a bad entire campaign. But one of Cain’s most embarrassing foreign policy moments came this week after the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel asked him if he agreed with President Obama on Libya. The former pizza boss meandered through a five minute long answer that didn’t really produce anything resembling coherence. He then told the Sentinel in a separate encounter, “I’m not supposed to know anything about foreign policy.”

Adding a bit of fuel to that statement, Cain said in the same interview that he made the Libya flub that attacking Iran to prevent it from acquiring nuclear weapons wouldn’t be “practical” — but not for the reasons you might think:

JOURNAL SENTINEL: Would you favor a military strike against Iran to stop that country from developing a nuclear capability?

CAIN: That is not a practical, top-tier alternative and here’s why. If you look at the topography of Iran. Where are you going to strike? It’s very mountainous. That’s what makes it very difficult. Secondly, that would be a decision that would need to be coordinated and discussed with our friends in that part of the world like Israel. But for the United States to unilaterally go in and attack Iran to try and stop them, I would want to consult with the intelligence community, the commanders on the ground in that part of the world, which I have stated before. But we should — I don’t have all the information necessary to make that decision.

Watch it starting at 10:00:

This view does differ slightly from what Cain said last July. The Washington Times reported that the former pizza CEO “dismissed the notion that an attack on Iran is unrealistic.”

But yes, Iran does have mountains. However, as Defense Secretary Leon Panetta noted the other day, the principle reason that an attack on Iran would be a bad idea is not because it is mountainous, but because it won’t achieve the objective of preventing Iran from acquiring nuclear weapons. In addition to that, a strike would all but end the reform movement in Iran, spark a wider regional war and incentivize the regime to weaponize its nuclear program.

But hey, if we can avoid all that by Cain thinking it’s all about the mountains, we’ll have to take it.

NEWS FLASH

Herman Cain: ‘I’m Not Supposed To Know Anything About Foreign Policy’ | It’s a perfect set up for a joke. After initial stumbles on straightforward questions, GOP presidential pizza aficionado Herman Cain declared himself “the tiger in the tall grass” on foreign policy: “I’m not foreign policy dumb as they think.” Having supposedly studied up with ambassadors and national security experts, Cain challenged anybody “who says I wouldn’t know how to address foreign policy.” Then, a reporter asks him about his position on Libya and Cain delivers the punchline: An excruciatingly awkward, five-minute long failure to find an answer. After initially trying to blame the flub on a lack of sleep, he’s now fully embracing his mistake. In another interview with the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel, Cain delivered yet another doozy: “I’m not supposed to know anything about foreign policy. Just thought I’d throw that out.” “I want to talk to commanders on the ground. Because you run for president [people say] you need to have the answer. No, you don’t! No, you don’t!” he said. “That’s not good decision-making.”

Update

On Laura Ingraham’s radio show today, recent Cain defender and fellow candidate Newt Gingrich stopped short in seconding Cain’s assertion: “I think it’s fairly important in a dangerous world for the president to know something about foreign policy.”

Womick’s Call For Purging Muslims From Military Was Met With Standing Ovation At Anti-Muslim Conference

On Veterans Day, Tennessee state Rep. Rick Womick (R) told ThinkProgress in an interview that all Muslims should be purged from the military and that Muslims pray to “a false God.” In a subsequent interview with a Tennessee paper, Womick reaffirmed his discriminatory remarks. “The only solution I see is that they not be allowed in the military,” he argued.

Womick made those comments to reporters while he was attending the anti-Muslim “Preserving Freedom Conference” in Nashville. (Recall, this was the same conference featuring Frank Gaffney that was kicked out of its original venue.)

ThinkProgress has obtained footage from Womick’s remarks at the conference, where he reaffirmed for at least the third separate time that he wanted all Muslims out of the military. When Womick said “we cannot have Muslims in our military because we cannot trust them,” the crowd of approximately 150 delivered a rousing standing ovation. Watch a short compilation:

Womick has since refused to apologize for his hate rhetoric, despite being given numerous opportunities to do so. Local and national Muslims are calling for the general assembly to rebuke him. Gov. Bill Haslam (R) said he disagreed with Womick but said it wasn’t his role to denounce the comments. Most Republicans are refusing to comment.

In a terse editorial today, the Murfreesboro Daily News Journal writes that the state GOP’s silence “speaks volumes about Tennessee’s political leadership and, if allowed to continue unchallenged, will say even more about the people who vote them into office.” The paper adds, “This is discrimination at its worst, no different than what America did to black Americans in treating them as second-class citizens. Will Womick try next to take away Muslim voting rights?”

In Fear, Inc. — our exposé of the Islamophobia network in America — we wrote, “Our nation needs more responsible conservatives to stand side by side with progressives to safeguard our national security and uphold America’s core values of religious freedom and respect for ethnic diversity.” It seems harder and harder to find such conservatives.

National Security Brief: November 16, 2011


– Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-NV) said yesterday that Democrats would not allow Republicans to save the Pentagon from cuts if the supercommittee fails to reach a deal. “Democrats aren’t going to take an unfair, unrealistic load directed toward domestic discretionary spending and take it away from the military,” Reid told reporters yesterday.

– Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Martin Dempsey told a Senate committee that some U.S. troops would remain on as trainers in Iraq, helping with counter-terror and using large military equipment. Another official said fewer than 200 would remain.

– Afghanistan President Hamid Karzai endorsed a strategic partnership with the U.S. after 2014 but demanded an end to night raids and house searches by foreign troops, the dismantling of foreign-run detention facilities and full respect for national sovereignty.

– Traveling down under, President Obama officially announced a 2,500-Marine permanent presence at a base in Australia, reassuring the Chinese that the arrival of the troops did not signal a threat to the People’s Republic.

– A group of Palestinian activists, dubbing themselves “Freedom Riders” after the U.S. civil rights movement, boarded West Bank buses that normally shuffle Jewish Israeli settlers to Israel proper only to be arrested at a checkpoint for traveling without papers.

– Syrian army defectors launched a major attack using, among other weapons, shoulder-fired missiles against an intelligence facility housed at an air force base, according to opposition activists.

– State Department spokesman Mark Toner said the U.S. has “concerns” about a North Korean light-water nuclear reactor the communist state says it will soon start operating.

– The Senate Foreign Relations Committee “has delayed consideration of Michael McFaul to become the next U.S. ambassador to Russia due to objections by U.S. senators that aren’t related to his personal qualifications for the position.”

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