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Brennan ‘Unaware’ Of Any Evidence That Torture Led To Bin Laden

There is no evidence that torture was an effective source of gathering intelligence against al-Qaeda, according to John Brennan, President Obama’s nominee for Director of the Central Intelligence Agency.

Brennan, who was the Deputy Executive Director of the CIA when the torture program began, was asked repeatedly by Senator Carl Levin (D-MI) as to whether he was aware of any evidence that statements by Bush era-officials Jose Rodriguez, Michael Hayden, and Michael Mukasey that information gleaned from torture led to Osama bin Laden were correct. Brennan said there was not, admitting that there was no evidence to contradict the findings of a 6,000 page Senate report concluding that torture did not get bin Laden:

LEVIN: [A]re you aware of any intelligence information that supports Mr. Rodriguez’s claim that the lead information on the courier came from [torturing] KSM and al Libi?

BRENNAN: I am unaware of any. [...]

LEVIN: Michael Hayden, former CIA director said that, quote, what we got, the original lead information, began with information from CIA detainees at black sites. Chairman — the Chairman and I issued in the same statement the following, that the statement of the former Attorney General, Michael [Hayden], was wrong. Do you have any information to disagree with our statement?

BRENNAN: I do not [...]

LEVIN: Michael Mukasey, former attorney general [in] The Wall Street Journal: “Consider how the intelligence that led to bin Laden came to hand. It began with a disclosure from Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (KSM), who broke like a dam under the pressure of harsh interrogation techniques that included waterboarding. He loosed a torrent of information —including eventually the nickname of a trusted courier of bin Laden.” Our statement, that of the Chairman and myself, is that that statement is wrong. Do you have any information to the contrary?

BRENNAN: Senator, my impression earlier was that there was information that was provided, that was useful and valuable. But as I have said, I have read the first volume of your report which raises questions about whether any of that information is accurate.

LEVIN: I am no referring not to the report, but the statement Chairman Feinstein and I issued on April 27th, 2012. We flat out say that those statements are wrong. Do you have any basis to disagree with us?

BRENNAN: I do not.

Watch the whole exchange:

Brennan also dismissed a common talking point from the pro-torture side — that waterboarding was no worse than what U.S. Special Forces had to go through during training — on the grounds that being trained simply wasn’t comparable to being tortured. The nominee’s conclusions about the efficacy of torture matched the consensus among former intelligence officials, all of whom conclude that torture doesn’t reliably provide good information and is hence inferior to traditional interrogation from an intelligence gathering standpoint.

Senate Republicans Don’t Realize The U.S. Military Isn’t A World ’911 Service’

Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta (L) and Gen. Martin Dempsey

Senate Republicans appear to believe that the U.S. military has the ability to respond to any crisis, at any time, anywhere in the world, as evidenced by frequent questioning during a Senate hearing today why U.S. assets weren’t deployed to stop the Sept. 11, 2012 attack on the U.S. diplomatic missions in Benghazi Libya — despite repeated confirmation from top defense officials that there were none to be deployed in a timely manner.

Secretary of Defense Leon Panetta and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Gen. Martin Dempsey appeared before the Senate Armed Services Committee to give their long-awaited testimony on Benghazi. Republicans have been attacking the Obama administration for the inability of U.S. troops to reach Benghazi in the seven-hour window of the two waves of attacks. Panetta insisted that “time and distance” were the factors most to blame, strongly quelling ideas of military omnipresence:

PANETTA: The United States military, as I’ve said, is not and frankly should not be a 911 service, arriving on the scene within minutes to every possible contingency around the world.

Despite this, Senate Republicans repeatedly asked why the U.S. military never swooped in to save the Ambassador Chris Stevens and his colleagues seeming to understand neither the process in which troops are deployed or the vastness of Northern Africa. The Republican Senators berated Panetta and Dempsey for alternately for providing satisfactory answers or outright lying. Senator John McCain (R-AZ) in particular hit Dempsey for providing “simply false” testimony on the time it took to move troops:

McCAIN: We didn’t take into account threats to that consulate. [...] We could have placed forces there. We could have had aircraft and other capabilities as short a distance away as Soudah Bay, Crete [in Greece].

Watch a small sample of the GOP’s off-base questions here:

If the Republicans had done their homework, or listened to the testimony given, they would have saved themselves a lot of time. For example, the air base McCain referenced is actually used primarily for NATO operations, and did not house forces that could have been used in response to attacks in Benghazi, requiring military personnel to be flown in from Central Europe and Spain to Sigonalla Air Base in Italy. Likewise the time and difficulty in moving those troops has been discussed by Panetta before.

The argument of Senate Republicans that the military ignored glaring warnings Benghazi has likewise been disproved. As Panetta said in his testimony, in the months leading up to Benghazi the National Counterterrorism Center logged 281 threats against embassies and their personnel. At no time was there an explicit threat flagged in the intelligence gathered that indicated that Benghazi was more threatened than other diplomatic locations in Yemen, Sudan, or Egypt.

Top U.S. Defense Officials Supported Plan To Arm Syrian Rebels


Outgoing Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and Joint Chiefs of Staff chairman Martin Dempsey said on Thursday that they supported a plan put forth by Obama administration officials to arm the rebels in Syria fighting President Bashar al-Assad’s regime forces.

The New York Times reported on Sunday that last summer, then-Secretary of State Hillary Clinton and then-CIA Director Gen. David Petraeus “were joining forces on a plan to arm the Syrian resistance.” But, the Times added, “Wary of becoming entangled in the Syria crisis, the White House pushed back, and Mrs. Clinton backed off.”

Today during a Senate Armed Services Committee hearing, Sen. John McCain (R-AZ) asked Panetta and Dempsey if they supported the Clinton/Petraeus plan. “We did,” Dempsey said:

MCCAIN: I would ask again both of you what I asked you last March when 7,500 citizens of Syria had been killed. It’s now up to 60,000. How many more have to die before you recommend military action and did you support the recommendation by then-Secretary of State Clinton and then head of CIA Gen. Petraeus that we provide weapons to the resistance in Syria. Do you support that?

PANETTA: We do.

MCCAIN: You did support that?

DEMPSEY: We did.

Watch the clip:

The news is quite significant, seeing that much of President Obama’s national security team supports arming the Syrian rebels, a move that — despite providing non-lethal aid and training — the Obama administration has been reluctant to do.

In an interview with the New Republic last month, Obama explained his thinking on how to handle the civil war in Syria. “Would a military intervention have an impact?” he asked, “And how do I weigh tens of thousands who’ve been killed in Syria versus the tens of thousands who are currently being killed in the Congo?” Obama continued: “You make the decisions you think balance all these equities, and you hope that, at the end of your presidency, you can look back and say, I made more right calls than not and that I saved lives where I could, and that America, as best it could in a difficult, dangerous world, was, net, a force for good.”

Democratic Senator Calls For Greater Declassification Of Drone Program

Sen. Ron Wyden (D-OR)

Sen. Ron Wyden (D-OR) appeared on MSNBC this morning calling for greater openness related to the Obama administration’s use of armed drones ahead of today’s hearing on the confirmation of John Brennan as the next CIA Director.

Wyden, a long opponent of over-classification by the intelligence community, has been particularly critical ahead of Brennan’s confirmation. At the heart of Wyden’s concerns is the secrecy surrounding the administration’s targeted killing program.

More needs to be done to ensure that Americans are aware of the justification used by the administration to target those they deem combatants, Wyden told the panel interviewing him on MSNBC’s Morning Joe. “What I’m going to be pressing for today and in the days ahead is declassifying more information about those issues,” Wyden said. “I think we can do it consistent with national security.”

WYDEN: Every American has the right to know when their government believes it’s allowed to kill them. I don’t think that, as one person said, that is too much to ask. And this idea that security and liberty are mutually exclusive, that you can only have one or the other, is something I reject. So we’re now going to have to begin the heavy lifting of the congressional oversight process by examining the legal underpinnings of this program and to make very clear I am going to push for more declassification of these key kinds of programs. And I think we can do that consistent with national security.

Watch the full interview here:

The Senate Select Committee on Intelligence — of which Wyden is a member — gets access to information surrounding drones, but struggled to obtain access to a classified Department of Justice memorandum laying out the legal argument for the use of targeted killing against American citizens. The existence of that memo was first reported in 2011, following the killing of American radical cleric Anwar al-Awlaki in Yemen. After an unclassified white paper describing the argument leaked on Tuesday, and Wyden hinting that he would be willing to launch a filibuster against Brennan, the Obama administration has agreed to provide the DOJ memo to Congress.

Operations involving drones used by the CIA remain classified, striking at militants and suspected terrorists in places like Pakistan and Somalia. When used by the military as in Yemen, the strikes have been for the most part unclassified, but have included missions from a recently revealed air base in Saudi Arabia.

When he first came into office, President Obama pledged to be a greater proponent of declassifying documents than previous administrations. In his first year in office, Obama signed off on an executive order and accompanying Presidential Memorandum to speed the declassification of documents dating back to World War II and remove the ability of the intelligence community to veto declassification.

National Security Brief: Expert Calls Out GOP Senator’s ‘Unprecedented’ Hagel Obstruction


Sen. Carl Levin (D-MI), chairman of the Senate Armed Services Committee, announced on Wednesday that he will delay the committee’s vote on Chuck Hagel’s nomination for Secretary of Defense. Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX), a committee member, wants Hagel to hand over the texts of private speeches and to disclose the financial dealings of private companies he’s associated with. There’s one problem, however, Hagel says he doesn’t have complete records of the speeches and, as he told Cruz and the committee Republicans regarding the companies’ business dealings, “the information you seek is legally controlled by the individual entities and not mine to disclose.”

Norman Ornstein, an expert on congressional procedure at the conservative American Enterprise Institute, called Cruz’s tactics “unprecedented.” “You could say that there’s been requests for detailed information [in the past],” Ornstein told the Daily Beast, “but this goes even beyond the intrusive questionnaires candidates fill out during the vetting process.” Ornstein also specifically called out Cruz. “That a Freshman senator would ask for that level of information says more about Ted Cruz than about anything else,” he said. “I’ve never heard of anything like that before,” adding, “but you could say that Ted Cruz in the Senate is unprecedented too.”

In other news:

  • Iran’s Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei rejected Vice President Biden’s offer for direct, one-on-one negotiations with the United States, saying “talks will not solve any problems.”
  • Meanwhile, the Obama administration approved a new round of sanctions on Iran “intended to force Iran into what amounts to a form of barter trade for oil, because payments for oil deliveries can no longer be sent to accounts inside Iran.”
  • But the Wall Street Journal reports: Iranian banks have managed to bypass a ban imposed last year that was intended to cut its access to global financial transactions through the world’s most-used electronic payment system, known as Swift, according to executives that run the system.
  • Bloomberg news reports: Crews for U.S. Air Force B-2 stealth bombers have been trained to drop the Pentagon’s 30,000-pound “bunker-buster” bomb, making it ready for combat, according to the commander of the service’s long-range strike command.
  • USA Today reports: Concussions or mild traumatic brain injuries inflicted on thousands of U.S. troops who fought in Iraq and Afghanistan may be linked to post-traumatic stress disorder and suicide, according to new research.
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