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Giuliani: ‘I Jumped Up Out Of My Chair And Cheered’ When Gingrich Said Palestinians Are An ‘Invented People’

GOP presidential frontrunner Newt Gingrich moved from outlandish to downright offensive last week when he declared the Palestinians are an “invented people” only capable of terrorism. “Somebody ought to have the courage to tell the truth. These people are terrorists,” he said. “It’s fundamentally time for somebody to have the guts to stand up and say, enough lying about the Middle East.”

Today on Fox and Friends, New York City’s former Mayor Rudy Giuliani exulted in Gingrich’s inflammatory remarks. “I jumped up out of my chair and cheered for Newt when he said what he said about Palestine,” Giuliani exclaimed. “Finally. Thank God. Someone is saying the right things about Palestine.” Taking Gingrich’s extremism a step further, Giuliani proclaimed that the creation of a Palestinian state would just create a “terrorist state” that “will be training people to come over here and blow us up”:

GIULIANI: I jumped up out of my chair and cheered for Newt when he said what he said about Palestine. Finally. Thank God. Someone is saying the right things about Palestine. Somebody has to question why are we creating a Palestinian state that’s going to be another terrorist state. Put Israel aside for a minute. Is it in the interest of the United States of America to create another state where they’re going to be training people to come over here and blow us up? Of course it isn’t. And somebody’s got to have the guts to stand and say that like Ronald Reagan said, “the Evil Empire.” Like Ronald Reagan said, “Tear down the wall.” We need somebody like that.

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Giuliani may want to take another look at his hero. As Politico’s Ben Smith noted yesterday, Reagan was nowhere near the “no-daylight-with-Israel policy that leading Republicans advocate” today. in 1982, he called for a settlement freeze, stating that it “could create the confidence needed for wider participation in these talks.” He even complained about Israel’s participation in the war in Lebanon, saying “the relationship between our two countries is at stake.” In 1987, he called on Israelis to “step back from confrontation” regarding the violence in the West Bank, adding that their occupation “also damages the self-respect and world opinion of the Israeli people.”

As Israeli daily newspaper Haaretz noted, “If Obama treated Israel like Reagan did, he’d be impeached.” And yet, Republicans like Gingrich and Giuliani continue to insist that their regressive, prejudicial, and ignorance of the Palestinian people is a position Reagan — or anyone who believes in the peace process — would support.

Security

Fox Host: Material Support To Terror Groups Is Okay If You ‘Believe’ In Their Cause

This week on Fox News, anchors Bill O’Reilly and John Stossel discussed former Democratic presidential candidate Howard Dean’s advocacy for the Mujahedeen-e Khalq (MEK), an exiled Iranian opposition group designated as a “foreign terror organization” by the State Department. The leadership of the group is based in Paris, while more than 3,000 former fighters linger in Camp Ashraf — a base set up outside Baghdad in the 1980s when the group allied with Saddam Hussein against Iran — where they face violent harassment by the Iraqi authorities.

O’Reilly and Stossel went through some background about the group and Dean’s history of paid speeches advocating for their removal from the terror rolls and U.S. recognition of the group’s leader, Maryam Rajavi, as the president of Iran.

Their history is shoddy. For example, Stossel blames the group’s U.S. designation solely on acts committed in the 1970s, which he says were carried out by a “nasty fringe” and occurred “30, 40 years ago.” But the MEK only renounced violence in 2001 and fighters were separated from their tanks in Camp Ashraf only in 2003. The U.S. government actually directly accuses the MEK of carrying out terrorist acts as recently as the late 1990s.

But the really staggering ignorance on the part of Stossel is his misunderstanding of the statutes that criminalize material support for groups designated as terrorists. Stossel compares Dean’s paid speeches advocating for the MEK to speeches on behalf of medical industry groups and Stossel’s own paid speeches. O’Reilly, to his credit, pushes back:

O’REILLY: He’s lobbying, and he’s getting paid by this group, Dean, to…

STOSSEL: We don’t know that he’s lobbying for them. He’s made speeches for them, but so has Rudy Giuliani.

O’REILLY: Come on. Why would these guys do that unless they were getting paid?

STOSSEL: Because they say, “Oh, we have Howard Dean speaking here in Belgium. Come over and meet Howard Dean.”

O’REILLY: That’s right. And Dean wouldn’t do that unless they were greasing him.

STOSSEL: Right. They’re greasing him.

O’REILLY: Yes, so he’s getting money from these people.

STOSSEL: So? I make speeches for money.

O’REILLY: Yes.

STOSSEL: If he checked them out and he believes…

O’REILLY: You do the chamber of commerce in Toledo. Not the Muhajadeen.

STOSSEL: If I believed in their cause, as he says he does.

O’REILLY: Oh, yes, he believes in their cause. Socialized medicine people? That’s what he believes in.

STOSSEL: He’s also taken money to change the patent rules for pharmaceutical companies. I don’t blame him for doing that.

O’REILLY: Dean is a lobbyist now, that’s what he does. And he gets paid by MSNBC.

Watch the whole exchange:

Stossel’s defense closely mirrors that of Rudy Giuliani, Tom Ridge, and Fran Townsend (a paid CNN contributor), who argued after they were accused of material support for terrorism that they didn’t consider the MEK to be a terror group.

That Dean was paid by the group — or more accurately, American supporters of the group (if that’s indeed the case) — is less important than whether or not he made what is considered speech that was “coordinated” with the group. Having spoken to actual MEK rallies in Europe alongside Rajavi, that is a difficult defense for Dean and other paid or unpaid advocates to make. (This is not to say one shouldn’t be able to speak in favor of delisting the MEK, or that they do not deserve today to be delisted, but simply that until they are delisted, the laws on the matter are clear.)

But one does not simply get to choose which laws they follow and which designations they recognize. In a nation where the rule of law matters, it needs to be applied equally to all violators, irrespective of what they or others feel about it. That’s why the false comparison between the MEK and the Toledo Chamber of Commerce is so staggering.

Security

Giuliani: Military Spending ‘Not A Major Part’ Of The Federal Budget, Makes Up Only ‘4 Or 5 Percent’

America’s Mayor” Rudy Guiliani spoke at a College Republican-sponsored event at Dartmouth last week and weighed in on the debt ceiling debate, saying that if it does get raised, the U.S. could potentially have “one of the weaker economies in the world.” (Actually dire economic consequences will result if the debt ceiling isn’t raised.) Then, Giuliani — who is reportedly considering another run for president — said that whatever happens, military spending should be left alone because it’s apparently not a big part of the federal budget anyway:

“I think we use our foreign aid budget pretty efficiently,” he said. “There are much more important things to cut.

He also said that defense spending is “not a major part” of the federal government’s budget, only constituting “about four or five percent” of the total.

Military spending actually is a major part of the federal government’s budget. Not only does the Pentagon’s budget make up 20 percent of total spending — not “4 or 5 percent” as Giuliani claimed — but the defense budget represents 50 percent of discretionary spending.

The United States is now spending more on defense than at any time since World War II. Moreover, the Senate Appropriations Committee recently found that the military’s budget increased more as a percentage than all other government expenditures since 2001. Indeed, the Pentagon’s baseline budget has nearly doubled in the last 10 years.

To his credit, Giuliani did tell Dartmouth students that he “would try to get control of defense spending.” But it seems like the first step would be for the former mayor to get the facts on how much the U.S. actually spends.

LGBT

Giuliani: ‘The Republican Party Would Be Well Advised To Get The Heck Out Of People’s Bedrooms’

When New York legalized marriage equality, conservatives decried the law, with Archbishop Timothy Dolan of New York calling it a form of government tyranny. But former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani has some advice for his party: He suggested Republicans should stop worrying about what happens in people’s bedrooms and instead focus on the party’s economic roots. In an interview this morning with CNN’s Candy Crowley, Giuliani said the issue of marriage equality should be left up to the states.

Giuliani, who has supported civil unions, said he still believes marriage should be between one man and one woman, but can “live with” the legalization of same-sex marriage in New York. Watch it:

I think it’s wrong, but there are other things that I think are wrong that get decided by democratic vote. … I see more harm, however, by dwelling so much on this subject of gays and lesbians and whether it’s right or wrong in politics.

After New York approved the measure, Giuliani said he was glad the “burden of discrimination” had been lifted for gays, but he reportedly dodged calls from a gay couple he had once promised to marry. At the same time, polls show that more and more Americans support marriage equality.

But when Giuliani ran for president in 2008, he even backed away from his strong support for civil unions to appeal to conservative GOP voters. So as long as even support for civil unions is a deal breaker for most Iowa Republican caucus-goers, it is unlikely many GOP presidential candidates will take Giuliani’s advice.

LGBT

Giuliani Promised To Preside Over Wedding Of Gay Friends, Now He Won’t Return Their Calls

When former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani (R) was going through a messy divorce in 2001, he was taken in by gay car dealer Howard Koeppel and his partner, Mark Hsiao. Giuliani stayed with the couple for six months, during which he promised to preside over their wedding if and when marriage equality came to New York.

Koeppel and Hsiao have been together since 1991 and were married in Connecticut in 2009, but now that New York has legalized marriage equality, they would like to repeat the ceremony with Giuliani presiding. Now that he has the chance to follow through on his promise, however, Giuliani is ducking their phone calls, the New York Post reports:

“He said, ‘Howard, I don’t ever do anything that’s not legal. If it becomes legal in New York, you’ll be one of the first ones I would marry.’ ”

Ten years later, Koeppel is distressed that his former house guest hasn’t returned the many calls he began making before the legislation was passed last week.

“It seems like a lot of people he was close to become persona non grata,” Koeppel observed.

Recent polls show that a majority of New Yorkers are happy with the new law, and Giuliani recently told reporters at a golf outing he was “glad that people who felt discriminated against have that, sort of, burden of discrimination lifted,” even though he is opposed to marriage equality.

But if Giuliani has his sights set on higher office — he is reportedly flirting with another bid to become the Republican Party’s presidential nominee — he likely views the New York law as one he cannot appear to support. Republican voters still oppose marriage equality overwhelmingly, and conservative outlets have spent the last week coming up with bogus reasons why the New York law is a threat to the institution of marriage.

Koeppel told the Post he thought Giuliani was sincere when he promised to preside over the wedding. “He doesn’t usually say things just to make you feel good,” he said. But Koeppel and Hsiao shouldn’t be shocked that Giuliani is apparently putting his political aspirations ahead of their friendship. In 2009, when the couple was married in Connecticut, Giuliani didn’t even bother to show up.

NEWS FLASH

Kristol: Rudy Giuliani Is Running For President | Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol reports that “two reliable sources” tell him former New York City Mayor Rudy Giuliani will run for the GOP’s presidential nomination in 2012. “He may throw his hat in the ring soon,” Kristol writes. Giuliani’s last run at the presidency in 2008 ended rather quickly after several early primary losses. The most memorable moment of his campaign became Joe Biden’s “a noun, a verb, and 9/11” retort during a Democratic debate in Philadelphia. This fall will mark the 10th anniversary of 9/11.

NEWS FLASH

Giuliani: Romneycare = Obamacare | “The reality is that Obamacare and Romneycare are almost exactly the same,” former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani said in New Hampshire today. “It’s not very helpful trying to distinguish them. I would think the best way to handle it is to say, it was a terrible mistake and if I could do it over again, I wouldn’t do it.”

LGBT

Giuliani Calls On Republicans To ‘Ease Up’ And Repeal Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell

Rudy Giuliani called on Republicans to “ease up a little bit” on social issues like Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell, telling CNN’s Wolf Blitzer that while he opposed ending the ban at the height of the Iraq war, “you can probably accomplish it now”:

GIULIANI: I didn’t see [Don't Ask, Don't Tell] as a big issue in this. The social issues were not in this. So maybe that’s an area where Republican can ease up a little bit and not

BLITZER: But you support gay rights?

GIULIANI: I do.

BLITZER: So you would get rid of Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell?

GIULIANI: My feeling about Don’t Ask, Don’t Tell was, in the middle of the height of the Iraq war, not a good time to do it. We’re not in the middle of the height of the Iraq war. Afghanistan is a different kind of thing. You could probably accomplish it now. It’s eventually going to happen and it seems to me that it gets my party out of this anti-gay, feeling that we’re being unfair to people who are gay.

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Several moderate Republicans have said they would support repealing the ban if the Pentagon’s study of the issue showed that ending the policy would not undermine unit cohesion or military readiness. Military sources that have seen a copy of the report — which is due to come out December 1 — indicate that it would not.

Economy

Giuliani: My ‘Warped View’ Is That Huge Wall Street Bonuses Are ‘Wonderful’

On Saturday, the New York Times reported that the “bank bonus season” that begins this week “will be one of the largest and most controversial blowouts the industry has ever seen.” “Despite calls for restraint from Washington and a chafed public, resurgent banks are preparing to pay out bonuses that rival those of the boom years. The haul, in cash and stock, will run into many billions of dollars,” reported the Times.

The reality that banks aren’t “taking immediate steps to reduce bonuses substantially” led former Citigroup CEO John Reed to slam the banks for learning nothing from the financial crisis:

Even some industry veterans warn that such paydays could further tarnish the financial industry’s sullied reputation. John S. Reed, a founder of Citigroup, said Wall Street would not fully regain the public’s trust until banks scaled back bonuses for good — something that, to many, seems a distant prospect.

“There is nothing I’ve seen that gives me the slightest feeling that these people have learned anything from the crisis,” Mr. Reed said. “They just don’t get it. They are off in a different world.”

But some prominent New Yorkers are defending Wall Street’s compensation packages. On Don Imus’ radio show this morning, former New York City mayor Rudy Giuliani declared that from his point of view giant Wall Street bonuses are “wonderful”:

GIULIANI: I have to tell you. You’re going to get annoyed. I have a different view of bonuses than you do.

IMUS: Ok.

GIULIANI: And this comes from my experience as mayor of New York. They balance my budget. They were wonderful from the point of view of getting the money you need to run New York City. Particularly when they were paid in cash rather than stock because in stock you don’t get the benefit until somebody sells the stock. And but when they get it in cash, all of a sudden a deficit can turn into a surplus. So, I mean, I have somewhat of a warped view of this because it used to help me balance by big 30, 40 billion dollar budget.

Giuliani added that the big banks “should do a better job of explaining their compensation system and they should do a better job of explaining what they contribute, which is really the life blood that makes our economy work.” Watch it:

This isn’t the first time Giuliani has made this argument. About this time last year, he defended Wall Streets practices by saying that “one of the ways in which you determined New York City’s budget, tax revenues, was Wall Street bonuses.” He added that it has “a reverse effect on the economy, if you somehow take that bonus out of the economy. It really will create unemployment.”

As the Wonk Room’s Pat Garofalo has pointed out but Giuliani neglects to mention, “the banks are returning to huge paydays when their profits have come courtesy of the government programs that kept them from collapsing.” “Investment firms should be looking at ways to alter their pay packages to appropriately acknowledge how they were able to make so much money,” writes Garofalo.

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