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Saudi Religious Scholars Argue Against Allowing Women Drivers

A group of academics from a Saudi Arabian religious council warned that, should women in the repressive monarchy be allowed to legally drive cars, the country would see a rapid “moral decline.”

The religious scholars are from Saudi Arabia’s top institution of religious study and worked with a university professor to draft a report on the potential impact of women drivers. The group said women drivers would lead to a “surge in prostitution, pornography, homosexuality and divorce,” and complained that, after ten years of women driving, there would be “no more virgins” in the kingdom. The report was prepared for and delivered to Saudia Arabia’s unelected advisory Shura Council, which holds no power in the country’s absolute monarchy.

Global Post highlighted an anecdote from the report that dealt with the personal experience of one its authors:

In the report Prof Subhi described sitting in a coffee shop in an unnamed Arab state where “all the women were looking at me“.

“One made a gesture that made it clear that she was available,” he said. “This is what happens when women are allowed to drive.”

This summer, U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton praised a civil disobedience protest movement of women drivers and a group of U.S. Senators asked the king to overturn the ban. This fall, one of the demonstrators was sentenced to 10 lashes for driving, though the sentence was overturned by the King under pressure.

Saudi Arabia is the only country in the world that bans women drivers, leaving one wondering why there have not been more news reports on how it’s the only country left with virgins. (HT: Sarah Wildman)

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National Press Club Reverses Suspension Of Journalist Who Aggressively Questioned Saudi Royal | Earlier this month, the National Press Club suspended journalist Sam Husseini for two weeks after he engaged in aggressive questioning of Prince Turki al-Faisal al-Sa’ud of Saudi Arabia, criticizing his country’s human rights record. Following an outcry in the media, the Press Club has decided to lift the suspension. “I welcome this decision and aim to ask ever tougher and sharper questions. I hope others will as well,” wrote Husseini in response to the lifting of his suspension. “I had asked the Saudi ambassador about the legitimacy of his regime, but if tough questions are not welcome at the Press Club, or at other media institutions, then their legitimacy is also undermined.”

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Journalist Suspended From National Press Club For Aggressive Questioning Of Saudi Royal

Prince Turki al-Faisal al-Sa'ud

On Tuesday, Prince Turki al-Faisal al-Sa’ud of Saudi Arabia spoke at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C. Included among the topics he discussed were womens’ rights in Saudi Arabia.

During the question-and-answer session, journalist Sam Husseini aggressively questioned the prince about the monarchy’s rule, questioning the legitimacy of Saudi Arabia’s unelected leaders. At one point, the prince simply concluded that Saudi Arabia needs time to change, as the United States did not allow women to vote until 1910:

HUSSEINI: There’s been a lot of talk about the legitimacy of the Syrian regime, I want to know what legitimacy your regime has sir. You come before us, representative of one of the most autocratic, misogynistic regimes on the face of the earth. Human Rights Watch and other reports of torture detention of activist, you squelched the democratic uprising in Bahrain, you tried to overturn the democratic uprising in Egypt and indeed you continue to oppress your own people. What legitimacy does you regime have — other than billions of dollars and weapons? [...]

TURKI: After how many years since the establishment of the United States did women get to vote in the United States? Does that mean that before they got the vote that United States was an illegitimate country? According to his definition, obviously. So, until, when was it — 1910 when women got to vote — from 1789 to 1910 United States was illegitimate? This is how you should measure things, by how people recognize their faults and try to overcome them.

HUSSEINI: So are you saying that Arabs are inherently backward?

MODERATOR: Sam, that’s enough — this lady to the right, you’re next.

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Shortly after the event, Husseini received an email from the Press Club informing him, “We are suspending your membership for two weeks, effective immediately, due to your conduct at a news conference held at the National Press Club.” It is alarming that the organization was so offended by Husseini’s aggressive questioning that they suspended his membership.

But it’s worth pointing out that Turki’s defense of his country’s record on women’s rights is logically flawed. Turki talked about how America slowly evolved to granting women rights. Yet America’s evolution not only occurred centuries in the past — and there is no reason to hold Saudi Arabia to such a standard — but also occurred democratically. Americans got together and decided that it was unfair for women to not have rights. Saudi Arabia is a monarchy where the general citizenry — unlike princes — gets little say over the laws. Saudi Arabia is the only Muslim country, for example, where women are denied the right to drive. The state of womens rights in Saudi Arabia does not have to do with the slow evolution of Muslim or Arab thinking, it is about a monarchy deliberately imposing an oppressive philosophy on its people.

Update

The Atlantic’s Max Fisher finds it more appropriate that a Saudi press club rather than an American one would ever suspend a journalist for aggressive questioning:

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Saudi Women Could Be Forced To Cover Their Eyes | In Saudi Arabia, officials are considering a disturbing measure that could require women to cover their eyes in public. According to the Daily Mail, Sheikh Motlab al Nabet, spokesperson for Saudi Arabia’s Committee for the Promotion of Virtue and the Prevention of Vice, said a proposal to turn the measure into law had been tabled, but the conservative Islamic state had said it has the right to prevent women from showing “tempting” eyes in public. Women already cover their hair and cloak themselves in black abayas, and can face punishments including fines and public floggings for women who don’t comply. In September, women were given the right to vote and run for office, but they are still banned from driving and cannot travel or have certain medical operations without a man’s permission.

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Obama Administration Denies Asylum To Gay Saudi Ex-Diplomat | Ali Ahmed Asseri, a gay former Saudi diplomat who has been living in Los Angeles, “has had his political asylum application denied by the Obama administration.” Asseri, who formerly worked in the Saudi Consulate in Los Angeles, fears abuse or even execution if he is forced to return to Saudi Arabia. “This was a political decision by the Obama administration, who are afraid of upsetting the Saudis,” Asseri told Rasheed’s World.

Alyssa

‘Homeland’ Open Thread: Fathers And Daughters

This post contains spoilers through the Oct. 16 episode of Homeland.

I’ve been incredibly impressed thus far with the way the show has handled Brody’s reintegration into his family, particularly the rivalry between Jessica and Dana for his affections. There’s a genuine discomfort to the fact that Nicholas will laugh with his daughter behind a closed door but won’t let his wife touch him while he’s masturbating to her, that Nicholas is able to be more patient with Dana than Jessica is. “She’s obviously got a secret life out there,” Jessica says, worried, only to have Nicholas laugh it off, saying “She’s sixteen…Didn’t you have a secret life when you were that age?” “Yeah, with you! That was different,” Jessica tells him, but it’s not, not really. Similarly, Dana takes Jessica’s relationship with Mike as a kind of visceral betrayal: her mother is cheating on not just Nicholas, but on her, exposing her to the evidence that she has an undomestic sexuality.

And it’s Nicholas who reins Dana in, implying to her that they can have their own secrets, that she is perhaps more relevant than her mother to his endurance. “You know when I went over to Afghanistan, you were in third grade…That’s what I took over with me. You were in a play that year, the Wackadoo Zoo. You were so good,” he tells her. “Honey, it’s practically all I thought about for eight years. It kept me alive. But now I’m back, and all those things that kept me going, they’re gone.” I’m trying to decide if there’s something genuinely queasy there, or if it’s just the dichotomy between a man who can get his teenage daughter to be good for Lawrence O’Donnell and the man who sees himself powerfully distant from his family in the mirror.

Speaking of Lawrence O’Donnell, I thought there was something pretty game about his agreement to be a pleasant dupe in this episode. “I was told Lawrence O’Donnell gives everyone a hard time except guys in uniform,” Nicholas tells his family, explaining why he’s not afraid of the interview. And true to this expectation, O’Donnell serves up softballs disguised as emotionally difficult questions. “What did they want?” he asks Brody about why he was tortured. “They want you to lose faith,” Brody tells him, swinging incredibly hard at the soft toss. “To lose faith in your country, which they say is the devil. In your brother marines who they say aren’t coming for you because you have no military value. In your wife, who they say has got your arms wrapped around someone else.”

Carrie’s also getting some tough love and tender treatment from the men in her life, namely Saul and Virgil, who is rapidly becoming my favorite character on the show. Carrie’s prickly about the fact that the CIA isn’t protecting Lynn, telling one of her colleagues who describes her as a hooker that “If by hooker, you mean someone who’s off risking her life while we’re sitting around a conference table.” But she’s not doing well in meetings, reacting badly to Saul who wants to know “You think that when I ask you the same exact question I’d ask anyone else, I’m giving you a hard time?” He’s angry at her for treating him like all the other people they work with, but also for sexualizing their relationship. I really want to know more about Carrie’s backstory in the department. And after she asks Lynn to take a risk, it turns up nothing. She snaps at Virgil, who, after suffering through the yogurt in her fridge, decides to make them both a real meal, saying “There’s some spaghetti in the closet. It’s only 10 years past its expiration date. I’m sure it won’t kill us.”

But they never get to dinner. Lynn’s death didn’t strike me as particularly surprising, and I would have liked to see her fleshed out a little bit more so her murder hit harder. But I do appreciate that it opened up another thread of the mystery, a case where we know slightly more than than Carrie and Saul but where we have absolutely no idea how they’re going to get there. It’s a perfect example of why spoilers don’t matter: the journey, rather than the destination, is what’s going to be tremendously exciting.

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UPDATES: FBI And DEA Foil U.S. Terror Plot With Ties To Iran | The FBI and DEA agents have disrupted an alleged Iranian-backed plot to launch a “significant terrorist act in the United States,” which allegedly would have targeted the Saudi Arabian ambassador to the United States and potentially Israeli diplomats as well. “Bombings of the Saudi and Israeli embassies in Buenos Aires, Argentina, were also discussed,” ABC News reports. Iran has been listed as a “state sponsor” of terror since 1984 and the new plot began in May when an Iranian-American from Corpus Christi, Texas approached a DEA informant seeking the help of a Mexican drug cartel to assassinate the Saudi ambassador.

Update

The Justice Department put out a release and held a press conference on the indictment. At the presser, which CNN live-blogged, U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder said:

The complaint alleges that this conspiracy was conceived, was sponsored and was directed form Iran, and constitutes a flagrant violation of U.S. and international law including a convention that explicitly protects diplomats from being harmed.

In addition to holding these individual conspirators accountable for their alleged role in this plot, the United States is committed to holding Iran accountable for its actions.

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“One thing that’s important to remember, … these are serious allegations but at this point they are just allegations,” said CNN’s Reza Sayah, “And if you look at this regime’s history, it doesn’t fit their M.O. Is it possible that they were involved? Certainly. Do these allegations need to be proven, do we need to see more details? I would say certainly before jumping to conclusions.”

Update

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said in an interview with the AP that the alleged terror plot, which she said “crosses a line,” also “creates a potential for international reaction that will further isolate Iran.” The U.S. is in discussions with other countries about potential diplomatic moves to hold Iran to account.

Alyssa

‘Homeland’ Open Thread: Light In The Darkness

This post contains spoilers through the Oct. 9 episode of Homeland.

The difference between a good television show and a great show is often that the latter, even when an episode is somewhat below-par, is still capable of doing something smart and surprising. Homeland got put to that test in this second episode, and I think it passed. So even though I’m slightly underwhelmed by this second episode, I still think this is the best new show of the fall.

One of the things I liked best about this episode was the way it built parallels between Carrie and Nicholas, between the man being hunted and the woman hunting him. It’s in some little things: Carrie’s body curling up as she paints her toenails in an imitation of the safety Nicholas finds in the corner when he can’t bring himself to face the cameras outside the house; Nicholas lying on the couch to watch the game and Carrie lying on the couch to watch him. These are both deeply messed-up people operating in parallel, Carrie desperately seeking absolution from the people around her while everyone wants Nicholas’ blessing; Nicholas is opaque to the people around him while Carrie is too clear, too open, too easily wounded.

I found myself wishing that the folks who shoot Breaking Bad were shooting this show, particularly Nicholas’s flashbacks to the time of his captivity. Can you imagine that scene of him digging his fellow captive’s grave, singing the Marine’s Hymn, with the kind of weird color saturation as Gus’ confrontation with Walt in the New Mexico desert? But from those flashbacks we see Brody’s isolation in captivity, and we see him come to the light again in a mosque. Even so, I was genuinely surprised by the image of him praying in his garage. His disappearance, the trip to the hardware store, all suggested some terrible project, some weapon as a monster in the basement. That he was picking up a prayer rug instead both delays the tension and suggests a deeper conversion. Is Brody not a Manchurian Candidate, but instead, a true believer?

And i thought it was powerful that said revelation came after the show took some time to explore how deeply how many branches of government are invested in Brody as a symbol. “The man represents a significant victory in the war on terror thanks to our friends at the CIA,” the brass warns Mike, before blackmailing him by revealing that they know about his affair with Jessica. “Putting aside for the moment that Sgt. Brody owes him his life, these are the facts. bin Laden’s dead. America thinks, or wants to think, that this war is drawing to an end. Politicians are pushing for a wholesale withdrawal from Afghanistan.” And when Mike makes the mistake of thinking about Nicholas’ well-being, they make it clear what they think: “Fuck it. Drive on. Isn’t that what you Marines say?” In keeping with that deep connection between Brody and Carrie, David is in on that meeting, applying the pressure. “He has career stakes in Brody, whom he and his department brought home to great fanfare,” Saul warns Carrie. “You want to challenge that? Get all your ducks in a row, first.”
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Saudi Woman Sentenced To 10 Whip Lashes For Defying Driving Ban | Last June, Saudi Arabian women launched a campaign to push for their right to drive, getting behind the wheels of their cars to protest the Kingdom’s ban on women driving. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton praised their efforts, saying, “I’m moved by it and I support them.” The AP reports today however that a court sentenced a Saudi woman to be lashed 10 times with a whip for defying the ban, noting that it’s “the first time a legal punishment has been handed down for a violation of the longtime ban in the ultraconservative Muslim nation.” The AP adds that Saudi authorities usually stop women drivers and let them go if they pledge not to drive again, but “dozens of women have continued to take to the roads since June in a campaign to break the taboo.” The sentence comes just days after King Abdullah announced that women will have the right to vote and run in forthcoming local elections there.

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Saudi Arabia Gives Women Right To Vote, Run In Local Elections | Saudi Arabian King Abdullah has granted women the right to vote and run for office in forthcoming local elections, the Guardian reported today. The changes will occur after this week’s election, in which women are barred from voting or standing for office. “We have decided, after deliberation with our senior ulama [clerics] and others … to involve women in the Shura council as members, starting from the next term,” Abdullah announced. “Women will be able to run as candidates in the municipal election and will even have a right to vote.” Saudi Arabian activists hailed the changes as “great news” and vowed to continue fighting for the rights of Saudi women, who cannot travel or have certain medical operations without male consent and are prohibited from driving.

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